@andrewbloom If even only a part of your review or comment contains a spoiler, then either use the spoiler tag aka button, ooor use the spoiler code trakt introduced some updates ago for partial text (that "spoiler" in brackets). Don't draw the attention to the spoiler section with bold text.
@ds1 I would have used spoiler tags, but since my discussion pertained to spoilers for later in the season rather than for this specific episode (and my understanding is that trakt will still display spoiler-tagged text in a comment if a user has checked in as having watched an episode), I wanted to try to warn people who may not have been worried about reading spoilers for "Splitsville," but would care about spoilers from future episodes.
@andrewbloom So you admit you put spoilers in there but ignore the rules of tagging spoilers? Interesting.
Trakt clearly states "mark spoilers", it does not clarify spoilers for what. Just spoilers and you spoil.
That feature is there for a reason despite what you said, so please use it.
(BTW, is the spoiler in brackets code working the same when you set an episode as watched?)
@ds1 I think you misunderstand my point. I regularly tag spoilers when discussing major plot points from an episode, but spoiler tagging a discussion about events from later in the season not only wouldn't prevent someone from being spoiled about those events (given that the "spoiler-shield" would be gone if someone checks in the episode as watched), but it might also give someone the false impression that, because they've already seen "Splitsville," they don't need to worry about avoiding spoilers in comments for this episode. Accordingly, I felt noting the future-episode spoilers in bold in text was the best way to alert people that even if they're not worried about spoilers for "Splitsville," they shouldn't read on if they don't want to be spoiled about events later in the season.
@andrewbloom I clearly understood you. What you are doing now is talking semantics, evading the issue and ignoring rules.
"mark spoilers", clear and concise. You spoil, you tag. Easy.
Spoiling future events is still spoiling. You can still have it in here but the whole comment is to be tagged as a spoiler.
Someone who writes as much as you do here on trakt and is pretty much constantly visible in "Discover" should lead by example, especially as there is no clear enforcement on these rules by trakt themselves despite constantly saying they are working on moderation and/or reporting comments (which they are clearly not).
What about all the people who did not yet watch the episode and see your comment because it's not tagged accordingly as a spoiler and on the "front page" of trakt? They might accidentally read your spoiler because the bold text draws their attention to that paragraph. A writer like you should know that. What about all the external third parties, loading reviews and display them in their applications and use the spoiler tag as well?
Yet again, does the spoiler in [] also make it visible when watched, or not? I do not know that and there seems to be no information about that.
You are deliberately ignoring the rule. I'd thought you'd be more reasonable than that.
@ds1 As I explained, I feel the method I used is in better keeping with the spirit of the rule than obeying the letter of it would be. I'm sorry you feel otherwise.
If you use the spoiler-tag brackets in a comment or review, trakt will still make those spoilers visible if the user has checked in the episode as watched. You can see an example of this for yourself in my review of the subsequent episode.
@andrewbloom @ds1 FYI, I'll be pushing a change this week that won't auto reveal inline spoilers. I think this is a good option to try first and should allow spoilers to be always marked inline, but the top level comment will auto reveal if they watched the item.
@justin I think that's a good compromise and hopefully @andrewbloom will use it accordingly if necessary. Thank you. :)
Review by Andrew BloomVIP 9BlockedParent2016-08-18T02:28:31Z
6.8/10. This is a hard one to judge. There's so much mixed up, broad humor in the episode that doesn't work particularly well, most of it centered around Nick. But there's also some of the classic comedy of the gang just pal-ing around with one another that really does. And hey, I may be a Barney-Robin skeptic, but NPH absolutely kills Barney's big speech to Nick about being in love with Robin. It's those sort of earnest, or at least earnest-seeming moments from an otherwise cartoonish character that have been missing all too often in the various love stories the show's tried to pull of between the two characters. Of course, Barney claims it's a feint so they can draw out the romantic tension for longer, but it's still a great moment.
That said, the side bits were pretty funny. Ted trying to be braggy about a pickup basketball league is the kind of goofy, self-depricating humor that works. And while the virulent anti-Patrice shtick is one of my least favorite running gags on the show, Barney's "BFF day invitation" threat feels true to the character and enjoyable. And while Marshall's similar basketball obsession is also broad, Lily continuing to bring up elaborate details about the Danish exchange student is just silly enough to work, and Ted looking after Marvin so Marshall and Lily can have sex is oddly sweet. Overall, there's just a smidge too much dumb humor for this episode to be considered good but there's still some pretty good stuff there.
SPOILERS FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON BELOW. DO NOT READ BELOW HERE IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE SEASON ENDS
I forget is Barney's speech is part of "The Robin" or not. "The Robin" really infuriated me as to how horrible it was and kind of broke my faith in the show, so I'm at a weird crossroads not remembering how it began exactly. If Barney's speech is real (and I think it's at least, partially real, right?) then it's still a nice moment to bring the two of them back together, but if it's part of that freaking insane scheme, than the whole damn thing is kind of tainted.