What a powerful story, rooted in the love between two people. I cried during this episode. I loved it.
what's with new disney characters and hating people called bruno
Amazing!!!
So good to see Bruno and Kareem together, hopefully they will make a great duo!
[7.2/10] Not a bad episode by any stretch of the imagination, but I think I was just expecting more somehow. It’s cool to get backstory on Kamala’s great grandparents and the path that led them to the famous family story. But their romance was somewhat cliche, even if the actors had good chemistry. You can only do so much to tell the story of courtship and starting a life together and raising a child in twenty minutes or so without falling back on cliches, but still, the whole thing felt a little underbaked.
And yet, I still choked up a bit when Kamala takes her great grandmother’s adage that “What you seek is seeking you” to heart and helps the lost child who will one day become her grandmother find her father. The poetry of Kamala finding out that she is the impetus of the family legend comes with a certain circularity and power. One generation saves the other. The way the magic works is still a little fuzzy, but the emotions of the moment work.
The same goes for the return in the present when Kamala confesses to her mother about her magical powers, gives her great grandmother a photo of her parents purloined from the past, and a game of intergenerational apology and forgiveness takes hold. It puts Ms. Marvel squarey in the newly robust genre of immigrant families saying they’re sorry from one generation to the next, but it still tugs the heartstrings.
It’s also nice to get a quick hit history lesson on the human cost of partition. I’ll confess, I know the basics of the situation, but not much of the details, so it’s compelling and enlightening to see the event dramatized like this. Seeing neighbors turn on one another is angering and heartbreaking. And the direction and sheer energy of the train scenes is impressive. You get the atmosphere of chaos and desperation that came with such a significant and unwanted change.
I can’t say I’m terribly excited for the last episode. The most important stuff has already been resolved, from Kamala closing the stable time loop with her great grandmother, to the new understanding with her mom and grandmother, to the ostensible villain sacrificing herself to close “the veil”. Sure, she seemed to give Kamran sossme powers, and maybe even possessed him. Plus, there’s still Damage Control to worry about. But none of those things are as interesting as the resolution to the issues in Karachi. Hopefully the show still has one more ace up its sleeve.
Overall, a good episode that was, perhaps, not as engrossing or exciting as it could have been given the time-traveling premise, but which still warmed the cockles of my heart in its biggest moments.
I’m a little light on the details of why any time travel occurred or is possible with the bangle but maybe Kamala and America can have some fun time/space adventures together. Excited to see Kamala in the big leagues soon.
The lowest possible 7. Just over the MCU in general lately after Thor and this.
“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I’ll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase “each other”
doesn’t make any sense.
The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you.
Don’t go back to sleep.
You must ask for what you really want.
Don’t go back to sleep.
People are going back and forth across the doorsill
where the two worlds touch.
The door is round and open.
Don’t go back to sleep.”
this was my favorite episode so far. the story moved me. I wanted this to be the last episode, it would match.
Some great cultural elements and history continue to be explored, but once again a Marvel show uses almost an entire episode late into the series to flashback and provide a bunch of background information and exposition that forces the main story to a screeching halt right before the finale. This is something that the MCU Disney+ shows have really struggled with. I like what they explored in the flashbacks this episode and especially with Kamala traveling back to the partition, but I just think they spent too much time in flashbacks for this being the penultimate episode. We did get important forward plot movement but it felt somewhat rushed and tagged onto the end because we spent a large chunk of the episode outside of the main story. Either the episode needed to be longer or there needs to be more episodes in the season.
Marvel needs to stop grinding the momentum of their shows to a halt in their penultimate episodes.
I found myself fast forwarding more than I was watching. Now, what does that tell you about a show?
5/10
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Next up
The Season Finale
I tried to think why Ms Marvel annoys me so much, and this episode really cements it. It's US imperialism in televisual form.
In the comments on the last episode I mentioned it was a small mercy that everyone in 1948 wasn't speaking English. 6 years earlier, apparently, they were. Marvel could introduce the sounds of a beautiful, poetic mellifluous language to the world... Or just have characters inexplicably speaking English to each other. They chose the latter.
This isn't representation, this is appropriation and exploitation. Put ideas and concepts into the Marvel grinder and get generic Marvel sludge out the other end.
The image I can't get out of my head is Reverend Lovejoy talking about "Christians, Jews... and miscellaneous." That's all this series treats its characters, settings and concepts as: miscellaneous.
Pointing out what Indians did to Muslims without pointing Indians.
Well played Disney.
Well played.
Who would have expected such an episode from Marvel? Oh my word! While not perfectly executed, it is a beautifully done episode representing a chaotic time in the history of two nations. Changing Ms. Marvel’s origin paved the way for this possibility and they handled it well. I am still mad at how one-dimensional Najma is, as a character, but dwelling in this great episode for now.
Mother attitude 180° turn around, just like that? Not very believably delivered.
That was the weirdest point to end an episode. It’s like they filmed several more scenes and were like oh, no, we gotta cut earlier, let’s do it right here almost mid sentence.
This whole episode jumped the shark for me and just left me with more questions than answers, with one episode left. We also didn’t need half the episode showing the great grandparents. Why was Kamala literally time traveling and returning with physical objects? How did the great grandfather get that separated from the daughter he was literally holding? How did Kamran just absorb whatever powers he got after his mom died across the world? How did Kamala’s mom and grandma get to her location all within like one minute of realizing she could track her location? Why is Kamran so set on the idea that his mom wouldn’t just abandon him when she literally left him to rot in the DODC building after he helped them escape? How and why did the DODC detect Kamran with his new powers and immediately try to kill him despite not trying to kill Kamala (maybe answered in the next episode?)? So much of this is confusing, jumped all over the place, wasted time and rushed plot points for I assume a final battle in the last episode but so much of it doesn’t make sense and they could’ve spent much more time building towards this if this is how they wanted to end it
Oh the delicious irony of the villain being DC
Shout by AlbertBlockedParent2022-07-06T11:57:52Z
did not think i would get an episode like this when this show started... that flashback was so sweet --- wish they were speaking in Urdu (Hindi?) the whole time