Such an amazing episode with so much depth. A sad moment at the end, but it's been building up to this.
Bye bye Airiam, we hardly knew thee.
What a waste of an interesting character!
Overall I liked this episode even with the issues it had. I don't think it had as many problems as some other viewers do. I had started to suspect some sort of AI involvement last episode when we saw Half Data girl glitch at the end. I hadn't put together that the seldom mentioned Control was that AI. I blame Person of Interest for my misconception.
Now that we know about Control it helps elevate some of the current issues with Section 31. Maybe they can use this as an excuse to re-hid them.
My main issue had to do with Half Data. I always hate when a show introduces a character that every seems to know and be friends with (that we've never seen before) just so they can kill them. What they did with Airiam was close. Like most of the bridge characters we had barely known her. For this to have the right impact, for Michael to be so torn, it needed to be setup long ago. If somehow it had been Tilly Michael's hesitation would have been more understandable because we known there's a relationship there. Half Data has been more like a piece of bridge equipment.
You know what I did at the end of the episode ? I went to the loo . That's the emotinal impact it left with me. How on earth (or in space) do I feel grief or mourn for I character I just now learned the tiniest thing about ? There is no connection and the moment you try to build it you kill her. Genius writers. At least this should answer the questions why one like her never was seen before, right ?
Me (before watching the episode) : Airiam character development, it's about time.
Me (after watching the episode) : what the hell was that ?
"15 seconds"
- "ONE MORE MINUTE... PLEASE!!" - Michael stardate "whatevernumbersoundsgreattothewriter"
Michael's such a champ she can bend space-time. She's such a great character... If I was Sweet-Cheeks I'd be very happy with her and thank her for saving my ass when I was suffocating. People who write do know that you can do things AND talk at the same time no? You can drive a car AND talk too right?
For me the first half of the episode was... ok-ish. I relished in the scene where UnSpock ripper her a new asshole.
And then it just went blanc for me, my eyes glazed over and I just... let it play on. Oh a fightscene between Michael and the character we all thought was a robot till about 15 minutes ago... Apparently she's augmented, ok that's good, kinda overboard there but hey...so what happened? mmh yeah this is ok... OH wait... SHE DED... AH WELL.
Boy did I shed tears for her... Manly tears I always get when I have a very large yawn. I can't help it, it just happens. It also happens on the toilet sometimes but I wasn't there at this point... Also I'd have stolen @Finfan 's thunder and I don't like doing that.
I'm kinda glad Andrew Phillips is here again so I don't "need" to recollect all the things that this episode did wrong again. Even writing about it lost it's "fun".
The amazing captain Pike ^_^ The dialog between him and the admiral was stunning <3
That was a good episode except for Michael, I can't accept her appearances anymore.
Nhan is a pretty crappy security chief. She got her ass kicked in one move and she’s out the entire fight. And how was she even taken by surprise. She was the only one who suspected ariam. She should’ve mentioned her suspicions to someone else. It’s not like she had any personal feelings toward ariam. They had no relationship
And another episode directed by Jonathan Frakes! I do get excited about that because it's one of the rare genuinely Trek things about Discovery (which, unfortunately, already says a lot about the show).
Finally we got to know what Airiam is (a very intriguing, rather mysterious character since the beginning). Those who were paying attention already knew she was bad news from the previous episode (she nodded in a suspicious way at least twice back then, and the camera did focus on her at times where there was no need for it). Too bad she won't be around, anymore, yet another dumb decision from the show runners, Airiam was too interesting to just be left freezing in the vacuum of space. Which begs the question: couldn't the Discovery have beamed her up as soon as she was ejected from that space station? Maybe they've mentioned the transporters being offline and I've missed that, though...
As it's been usual regarding Discovery, I'm not sure about this episode as a Star Trek episode, but I found it to be quite pleasant as far as a random sci-fi show can go.
The fundamental plot could have resulted in a great episode, but most of the potential got wasted.
Stamets & Burnham in their 'emotional' moments become a real burden for the show. Happens too frequently, often for silly reasons and the actors certainly don't show their best performances in such situations. It's painful when the real tragic and drama isn't about events in the script, but the performances.
Another strong offering from Jonathon Frakes, however this one is not entirely without its flaws. It shines in the character interactions but seems to stumble over some of the plot points.
[7.3/10] I hate when television shows finally give a minor character some shading, only to kill them off. Now I’m not saying that Lieutenant Airiam is gone for good. This is Star Trek after all, and on Discovery alone, we’ve already had three characters come back from the dead in some way shape or form. But there is something that feels nevertheless manipulative about how we finally get to know the intriguing-looking robot officer, with a compelling storyline to boot, only to see her get blasted out of an airlock by the end of the episode.
But it’s still nice to get to Airiam a little bit. We get some raw character detail here, like the fact that she is “half-robot”, and presumably became that way after a shuttle crash with her late fiance. (As a side note, it’s interesting how cybernetic enhancements are so prominent on Discovery when they’re fairly scant in later series. Maybe this sort of thing is why?) We also get some more emotional shading for her, giving her a friendship with Tilly, Detmer, and other officers that’s expressed in just a few first-person memories and cute interactions with Tilly in the present.
And we also get a compelling story of dual identities. We see the real Airiam trying to help her friend, saving her favorite memories, feeling disoriented when she wakes up from a daze and isn’t sure how she got to where she is. And we see the one who’s being controlled by whatever Star Trek’s equivalent of Braniac is, with three red dots flashing to let us know that some malevolent force is in charge and thwarting the crew. The push and pull behind Airiam’s eyes is a compelling one, especially as we get to know Airiam a little better.
But we also get to know our Big Bad a little better here too. Little is outright confirmed, but it appears that the major force Discovery is contending with is some kind of malevolent A.I., likely from the future given Pike’s earlier timestream skirmish. It wants to learn everything it can about artificial intelligence, has tried to stage a silent coup of the Federation via Starfleet control, and presumably is the force that tries to destroy all sentient life in the far future from Spock’s vision.
I don’t mind this reveal necessarily. It’s not especially novel. (Lord knows various ships named Enterprise have encountered rogue A.I.s seemingly once a year.) But the fact that you have a being or a force that can control anything digital or mechanical and is gathering information at least poses an interesting challenge for tech-heavy Starfleet.
That means there’s a haunted house feel by the time that Burnham, Airiam, and Nhan make it to Section 31 headquarters and discover it’s a murder scene. The reveal that the AI has killed the quarter of Starfleet commanders we saw in the prior episode, and is roughly in control of the Federation’s secret spy base is appropriately unnerving. Commander Riker himself (Jonathan Frakes), is the director for this one, and he manages to maintain the creep factor with dark lighting and close angles as all is slowly revealed.
The time we spend with Airiam, and the way it builds to that confrontation at Section 31’s base is all engaging. The problem is the filler that it takes to get there.
Filler is overly harsh, but we spend an awful lot of time with Pike and Admiral Cornwell doing exposition dumps about this red herring threat or this peculiar behavior from Starfleet command before we get to the meat of the episode. I like Cornwell, and thought she was a highlight of even the shakier points of last season, and I’ve talked about how much I’ve unexpectedly enjoyed the addition of Pike. But just having the two of them exchange generic platitudes about being fugitives or the chain of command or what this threat is doesn't really add much to the proceedings. Even the Discovery flying blind through a moving minefield felt oddly generic and unexciting here.
Speaking of generic and unexciting, I still don’t buy the Burnham/Spock relationship here. God knows that I’ve seen enough “chess is a metaphor for whatever we’re really talking about” bits to last a lifetime. Discovery’s Spock still only feels vaguely connected to prior Spocks, which is partly by design given him being unmoored by the red angel, but sitll leaves me feeling like I’m watching a different character. And the overwrought family drama/wound reopening/shouting match between him and Burnham still just leaves me cold and uninvested. Discovery isn’t necessarily wrong to want to dip into Spock family tension, as it’s been a venerable source of good material from 1967 to 2009. But this sibling estrangement stuff still feels so tacked on and unengaging.
But again, at least once we dispense with the logic/unpredictability metaphor their interactions represent, we get a pretty badass confrontation at the Section 31 base. The wire fu the show tries to pull off isn’t perfect (where is Michelle Yeoh when you really need her?), but there is, again, a horror movie quality to seeing Airian snap, rip off Nahn’s atmospheric enhancement, and beat the hell out of Burnham. She seems unstoppable, and unable to be reasoned with, which makes her one of the most frightening threats the Discovery crew has faced so far.
And yet, you can reason with her. There is such sentiment and pathos in Tilly sending Airiam shared memories to try to snap her out of the AI’s mental grasp. Hannah Cheesman does a superb job of communicating Airiam’s waking up out of this daze but still experiencing the terror of being unable to do anything to stop her mental captor. The show overdoes the life and death decision from Burnham to save her friend or blow her out of the airlock for the good of everyone (including, arguably, Airiam herself), but there’s at least emotional investment there because, after 20+ episodes, we finally have some sense of who Airiam is.
Granted, that’s all delivered rather quickly, and used to give us another code word tease and hint that Burnham is the most important person in the universe yet again. But taken for what it is in the immediate term -- a story of a young (cybernetically enhanced) woman being taken over from within, offering herself up as a heroic sacrifice to stop it, and spending her last moments reliving one of her last happy memories with her dead fiance, “Project Deadalus” is heartbreaking.
I wish that sort of character work was used to build characters up rather than just to make it more meaningful when they’re killed off. But at least they make this episode Airiam’s story, one that has horror, excitement, and pathos from the first moment to the last. It’s a shame to kill off a character right when she’s interesting as more than a walking plot device, but I’m glad we got to learn more about her as a person, to where her death had meaning, even if I wish Discovery hadn’t killed her off so suddenly.
Episodes like this make me wonder how amazing this series would be if it were produced by Burman or Pillar... or Moore... or anyone who has any consideration for the source material... or anyone who graduated film school. Once again, Discovery is presented with the finest ingredients to make an episode out of, only to nuke it all in the microwave and think we won't taste the difference.
Three days in a Pain Booth for the next camera operator who even thinks along the lines of, "Check out what I just learned how to do."
It's frustrating, parts of the story drags (uninteresting) while others which are meant to be huge plots/emotional moments, just appear in one single episode so fast we can't absorb it. I am left feeling unemotional for a character that was barely developed dying while all the crew are affected, some more development over several episodes would really help. Same went for Suru, his near death fell flat because apart from some good one liners, I had not yet connected to his character. Looking forward to the Expanse returning for some much needed all round epic space moments.
8/10
Great
yet another great episode,
now we are getting to the rub of thing's,
I swear this show is perfect in every way and definitely the best star trek ever created.
I'm Loving Michael and her
brother Spocks interactions.
gutted for Airiam I really am, but she
needed to be neutralised, everything
depended on it, as in all life in
the universe. It's all about Michael
you say...hm. i should think so as well.
It's definitely her in the exo-suit,
Holy-shit that's awesome.
I'm glad they did not beam Airiam back to the ship because you did not want any chance for Control to get inside the ships systems and ultimately destroy Discovery as Airiam told us her intentions. So what we had to do was definitely the right and only course of action especially with the stakes being so high, like to save all life in the universe.
which is all resting on the Discovery Crew
Michael especially.
I really don't like Nhah, how shit
is she, what a useless Chief of security.
Nhah is the worst security officer from
any Star Trek show ever.
She got quizzed on her weakness
by the person she suspected
and then got took out in one
hit for the entire fight,
she boring and piss-poor at her
job and i hope i don't see her
In The Future.
There Was So Much To
"Assimilate" there,
but no time to waste.
CONTROL WANTS THE SPHERE DATA
TO TURN AI AGAINST THE UNIVERSE,
TO WIPE ALL ORGANIC LIFE IN
THE UNIVERSE AND IT'S UP TO
THE USS DISCOVERY TO PROTECT
THAT DATA AT ALL COSTS,
AND GET IT AS FAR AWAY FROM
CONTROL AS POSSIBLE.
from here on out this is definitely what makes this the best Star Trek ever and actually one of the best shows ever, PERIOD.
Getting there, but the black ops shit gets old.
Nhan is a pretty crappy security chief. She got her ass kicked in one move and she’s out the entire fight. And how was she even taken by surprise. She was the only one who suspected ariam. She should’ve mentioned her suspicions to someone else. It’s not like she had any personal feelings toward ariam. They had no relationship
Nhan is a pretty crappy security chief. She got her ass kicked in one move and she’s out the entire fight. And how was she even taken by surprise. She was the only one who suspected ariam. She should’ve mentioned her suspicions to someone else. It’s not like she had any personal feelings toward ariam. They had no relationship
Nhan is a pretty crappy security chief. She got her ass kicked in one move and she’s out the entire fight. And how was she even taken by surprise. She was the only one who suspected ariam. She should’ve mentioned her suspicions to someone else. It’s not like she had any personal feelings toward ariam. They had no relationship
Nhan is a pretty crappy security chief. She got her ass kicked in one move and she’s out the entire fight. And how was she even taken by surprise. She was the only one who suspected ariam. She should’ve mentioned her suspicions to someone else. It’s not like she had any personal feelings toward ariam. They had no relationship
The season continues to move along with decent but an bit odd episode. Was we suppose to care about Airiam?
One of the most interesting episodes of the season.
Devastating. Taken out of context of the storyline of this season, this episode would have been a Star Trek classic. My qualm is that is took far too long to take an potentially incredibly interesting character and just, do that.
Still, I put my ever-loving Star Trek hat on and adored it.
Not finished with the episode, but had to stop and comment about one of the worst fight scenes in a newer high budget shows. I'm lost for words.
Um here others who use the same idea this season
Now they have turned it into a bloody soap opera of treason, subterfuge and political machinations. And adding to the insult they throw in a Spock that enjoys emotions. This season is sooo bad!
Wow this episode was powerful, and to think I could become that invested in a character in such a short time. Jonathan Frakes...You got me with this one. Kudos!!
Skynet is coming to Star Trek! Doomsday will actually be in the year two thousand something something?
Oh wow, that shit hurted...
Shout by ScruffyBlockedParent2019-03-17T07:53:34Z
I'm not a big fan of Discovery. This show have a lot of problems and now they really killed the most interesting character in the whole show? What a stupid decision!