I laughed in spite of myself at the outcome of the game of Latchcomb.
A great ending to the first season of the surprise show of the year (well, for me, at least).
Messing around with the Prime Directive was always fun in Star Trek and, as expected, it was fun in The Orville, too. Though this episode does borrow a lot from a few specific Star Trek episodes, I don't see it as something bad or as some sort of cop-out, but as a tribute done right. The Orville is like a covers album of Star Trek, but one done with care, love and respect. Long gone is the satire show everyone was expecting ("Family Guy in space", as I thought of it myself, at the beginning of the season). What we got, instead, was something that easily fits the Star Trek lore. The Orville will never be part of Star Trek (though I'm still waiting/praying for Patrick Stewart to show up as Jean-Luc Picard in some weird quasi-crossover), but as I watch each episode I actually keep forgetting that this is not Star Trek. Thats "mission accomplished" in my book.
Well done, Seth! Looking forward to the second season, it cannot come soon enough!
Kudos Seth. A little bit predictable but nonetheless great writing.
Good episode. Nice solid end to the season, that took a bit to get its stride. I wouldn't have thought i'd say this a few episodes back, but i'm looking forward to season 2 now.
I actually loved this episode, Still taking some getting used to though, I have to keep reminding myself, It's not Star Trek. I would very much like to see another season of The Orville and has one commenter said, it'll be the making or breaking of the show,... I'm hoping it'll be the making, to be honest, I love anything Sci-Fi related that helps me escape from this Backwater Rock of a Planet, even if its just for a short time. Get Writing Seth!
[7.5/10] This is the most mature and down-to-earth The Orville has ever been. Maybe that’s not a high bar. It’s a fairly cartoony show But it’s nice to see nonetheless. For once in the show’s run, the romantic interactions between Mercer and Grayson feel more real and adult, and the show takes its crazy sci-fi concept of the week seriously as well.
That sci-fi concept is the rapidly evolving society. It’s been done on everything from The Twilight Zone and Star Trek: Voyager to comedy spoofs like The Simpsons and Futurama. The only major conceptual wrinkle to it here is that it comes in the form of a planet with a “phasic orbit”, meaning it pops up for a limited time every eleven days, having advanced roughly seven-hundred years with each interval.
That gives the show the chance to touch on this civilization at four distinct time periods: the Bronze Age, the late medieval period, modern times, and a futuristic space-faring civilization. It gives writer Seth MacFarlane the chance to ride one of his favorite hobby-horses -- the role religion plays in people’s lives. We see how a chance encounter between Grayson and a local (in violation of the Union’s equivalent of the Prime Directive) leads to an entire religion built around here, replete with statues, harsh punishments, murders in the name of preserving the order, and eventually even televangelists.
And yet, at the end of the day, MacFarlane offers a pretty moderate take, at least for him. He doesn’t posit religion as a pure evil that needs to be actively stamped out to allow for the advancement of society. Instead, he posits it as part of the natural growing pains of any society, one that civilizations move past on their own as they move forward, without the need for intervention. If anything, MacFarlane highlights the need of optimistic visions of the future and the possibilities therein, as represented by Isaac and by extension the show itself, to inspire people in different but no less potent ways. It’s a little condescending still, but more charitable and hopeful than I might have expected based on MacFarlane’s past work.
But I also like it as a character story for Grayson. More than passing judgment on the society writ large, she hates the notion of thieves being brutalized in her name. She hates being deified and wants to use her power and station in this community’s popular consciousness to rectify the harm she’s caused. Her efforts to show the Pope equivalent that she is mortal and just used tools is laudable, with a strong people power message that goes disseminated because of a system of control that can’t function without it. Whatever you think of MacFarlane’s take on religion, it’s compelling to see Grayson feel personally responsible for what happened and want to rectify her interference, even as, eventually, the locals tell her it was inevitable.
The pacing of the whole thing is a little janky, and the end result feels a little rushed, but I like the solution of Isaac going down to the planet since he can live seven-hundred years (shades of The Doctor from Voyager) and the hopefulness of where it lands.
I also enjoyed a more subdued and naturalistic take on the romantic storyline on the show. For one thing, Mercer hitting up his friends at the end of a long day, finding no social comfort (save for an amusingly out there Moclan game), and eventually calling his ex has a realness to it that the prior attempts at slap-slap-kiss banter have been missing.
There’s a more relaxed and natural vibe to their interactions here and the efforts to rekindle their romance. The sweetness and familiarity between them is less forced and at times, it’s even believable. Taking a lighter approach to this really works wonders. MacFarlane’s romcom shtick is still pretty tired (especially the PB&J bit), but the vibe works much better and generates more goodwill as the two of them fall back in together.
But the whole time I was thinking to myself, “Isn’t it a problem to have the captain of the ship dating someone he has command over?” (Parks and Rec fans will find it amusing that it’s a confession from a character played by Rob Lowe who prompts this issue -- and that’s before a cameo from Perd in this one.) Eventually, I was impressed that the show realized that was a concern the whole time.
The cinch of the episode is that Mercer takes steps -- covering for Grayson’s mistake, allowing her to go down to the planet to fix it against the Admiral’s orders, and other moves that violate the “cultural contamination” principle -- that suggest a certain amount of mixed motives in terms of whether he’s doing this for his First Officer or for his girlfriend. It’s surprisingly subtle, with the show not really drawing attention to it until the end.
I like that it’s Grayson who does it, realizing that her professional responsibilities preclude her feelings in this situation, however difficult that might be, with Mercer regretting the reality of the situation but acknowledging that it’s the right thing. It is an almost shockingly adult response from both of them. And hell, if they want to continue to carry this torch, having two professionals who work relationship precludes a romantic relationship is way more compelling than a hackneyed “I cheated on you because you work too much” bit of nonsense.
Overall, this episode still has its problems. MacFarlane’s need to inject sophomoric jokes where they’re not needed persists, notably. But despite that, “Mad Idolatry” feels like a more grown-up, more reserved version of the show we’ve seen over the past twelve episodes. On the whole, season 1 of the show didn’t do much to impress me, vacillating between tired romcom shtick and replacement-level Star Trek. But if the more sophisticated take on display here is a tack The Orville can follow as it continues, there’s reason to hope the show might come into its own in season 2.
> Directed by Brannon Braga
Well, then. That explains rather a lot about the tone.
This is such a rehash of several other Star Trek franchise stories (see @Abstractals' review for the main influences) that it's hard to give the story too much credit. Like many other episodes of The Orville, the resolution feels rushed and trite, predictable to a fault and ultimately unsatisfying. It's a shame because most of the stories could be truly amazing if given the proper attention (and if most of the lame jokes were taken out, of course).
TL:DW = RELIGION DESTROYS LIVES!!!
I’m so glad Issac came back after they teased us with him possibly leaving, but GOD DAMMIT I actually wanted Ed & Kelly to get back together. I guess the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. T_T
Commander Grayson goes off on her own to look around on a strange planet they just crash landed on minutes ago. When she sees primitive humanoid lifeforms, she is reminded not to make contact, and then not only immediately makes contact but she uses her technology to heal a minor cut on a child's forehead. Then instead of following orders and leaving it alone they all go back and mess with the society even more (with no repercussions apparently). Incredibly risky too, to go down to the planet with only 30 minutes left before it phases out for 700 years. They only had about 9 minutes to get back to their shuttle and get off the planet which definitely isn't enough time.
Would have made more sense if they had made the child more seriously injured and had made the injury more directly Grayson's fault (like she literally fell on top of her). I assume they didn't want to show a child seriously injured on this show, but they could have made it, say, a young woman if that were the problem.
Pretty predictable except for the part with Isaac, though that was of no consequence anyway (which doesn't make much sense — if an artificial being showed up on Earth today that robot would probably be dismantled). Also the Orville was just chilling there for over a month. Must have been really boring.
11 days in Orville's universe takes 700 years in the planet's universe. So when the planet is in the Orville's universe, doesn't 700 years pass for everyone else in the planet's universe? So at the end the civilization is spread out across the galaxy, the people on the planet would be coming back to a universe that's 700 years in the future relative to when they left it. Not a problem per se, just an interesting thought.
Season finale. A classic theme in Star Trek and that is scary for its possible consequences and bad people. I hope they renew it since it has pleasantly surprised me
Did... Did we just witness the Q's origin story?
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Excellent episode. I loved the focus on Grayson. A while ago I was sad that Adrianne Palicki left Agents of Shield, but now I see it as a blessing in disguise! She is fantastic as Kelly Grayson and I can’t inagine anyone else in this part.
The ending was literally a deus ex machina ending, which is not a bad thing. It wrapped up the episode in a decent fashion.
This is the season finale and I am sad that it’s going away for a while, I can’t wait until season two.
Catch-come!