Absolutely beautiful. At the time, Trek was able to do stories that other shows couldn't (in today's TV landscape that's far less true) and this is a prime example. It works so well because Hallie Todd's adorable child-like performance, and Brent Spiner being able to play off that so well. Picard gets a great scene standing up to the Admiral, too.
Certainly made me cry, and laugh a lot at Riker's brief scene.
Those dates are wrong. I have seen 4 chaperts and there is 2 more.
I honestly have no idea how they're pulling off a season that's this consistently good, episode after episode. Hulu/Disney better renew this show!
Take away some of the jokes and this IS classical Star Trek!
Orville continues the surprising path of character development. Again I have to admit I did not expect this to be a focal point of the show. Judging from the trailer this is a slapstick show. Seems Seth McFarlane has something more ambitious in mind. For that alone I will stay on this ride.
Addressing ethical issues and questions regarding one's individuality was very trekkie. At some point I even felt as if I was watching a Star Trek episode. Then they managed to add the (mandatory) humour without making things go bonkers or tacky. I was honestly impressed by this episode. The humour, sci-fi, drama, all different aspects of the show seem to be finally blending well together.
The first couple or episodes got me curious, but this one got me hooked. Now I definitely want to see where this show is going (probably where no man has gone before).
Another brilliant episode of tv. This season has just been knocking it out of the park imo. The wait was worth it.
Man, watching those scenes in 2025 were so hard. Honestly, as much as I want to see more of Gordon on this show, I don't think the crew made the right decision here. I hope that LaMarr was right about there being alternate timelines in this universe, because I really hope that future still exists out there in some form. I don't think he was being selfish at all.
Absolutely incredible episode, a great follow up to an earlier episode that was also really well done.
OMG :scream: give all awards… please
A lot of big issues in this episode, in the best tradition of Star Trek. It’s one of the things I like about sci-fi, and Seth does it well.
The Orville does it again!
The writers are bringing their A game in this season, not that the others were anything to whine about.
This is truly what I loved about Star Trek from days of old. Using an emphasis on culture differences between different alien races to provoke thought, challenge norms, ideas, and without smacking the viewer in the face, the question posed is 'what would you do'?
This was a beautifully crafted episode that gave it depth, the topic needed to be given the time to be laid out before the viewer for proper and due care of the subject matter. There were a number of strong ethical questions, personal, and presented the positive and also the harsh negative outcomes.
I am really enjoying The Orville this season. There is far less comedy in this season but I think personally I like the challenge of the subject matter. And yes I'd like to see some more of the comedic episodes too, but if there's a bit of this and some of that with this writing team, bring it on.
Congratulations The Orville cast, crew, writers, another superb piece.
And this, dear writers of contemporary Star Trek, is how you handle a topic like that.
I'm, sadly, not surprised about the rating (68 % at the time of writing) and some comments in regards to this episode. To each his own but I thouroghly enjoyed it.
It was past overdue that Klyden left the ship. I never liked him but there was no way after this he could have stayed. Don't think we've seen the last of him.
Bortus still hasn't performed "My Heart Will Go On"
So, let me see what we got here.
A stupid "hommage" scene to Star Trek IV that wasn't funny.
A muscle packed Guinan who's given up on humanity. Since Q changed the actual timeline and not created a fantasy, how does that actually work that she doesn't recognize Picard althought they have met in "Time's Arrow" ?
A totally unnecessary car chase scene with the usual amount of smart comments. Seems like Raffi and Seven are now the comedic relief.
More on-the-nose comments about contemporary earth. I miss the old episodes where you actually had to use your brain to make connections instead of being served pre-chewed food on a silver plate.
And at the end we see Orla Brady as (supposedly) The Watcher. Something that, in my opinion, seems to be just to have a role for her to play. Because I don't believe she's anything else than the Laris we've seen so far in the normal timeline.
I do feel sorry for Annie Wersching who's only hanging around (literally) instead of actually doing something.
It's a mess at this point.
Once again a classic Star Trek episode that we would never see on that other show that has Star Trek only in its name.
Well you know, I'm on board with those who say the orville feels more like star trek than discovery ever will be.
mesmerizing, gripping, soul-tearing, powerful, i bitch-cried at least 5 times in intervals watching this
my dudes, i'm not gonna lie, it felt like 50 minutes of free therapy (well, almost free)
loved it. (also, why is the date on trakt set on december 7, did I have a whole ass trip and imagined the first part?)
please give an emmy to everyone involved in this
Ok, so let me see if I got it clear:
Writers took seasons (meaning years) to let Lena (Kara's best friend) gets into the "Super friends" circle, but it magically just took William A DAY to get in??? Literally he just had to ask for. ARE YOU SERIOUS?
A reporter gets full access and knowledge of the tower, resources, strategies and the people of the circle because they need the "approval of public opinion".
Please tell me that I am not the only one who think how ridiculous and reckless sounds that.
Well, that has to be one of the worst episodes I've seen. Excuse me but can you all just take a moment and stop trying to save the whole world and its population and concentrate on saving just a few people? Me, Me Me, Me, Me.
Holy f, that was the worst episode I've ever seen. I'm just finishing the show (aware of how average/cliche it is, a guilty pleasure of mine?) because I'm almost at the end anyway, but holy f that was bad
That was so heavy handed. it doesn't even count as a metaphor, you literally had a white woman stealing power from black people. And then all the white superheroes being told to care about black people & being all contrite about being white.
Very poorly written. Strong messages shouldn't feel like forced propaganda. It's just sad
Wow, way to exhume the corpse of a great show for a cheap infomercial.
Strangely boring. I mean, I really struggled to keep my attention on this, and it's hard to say exactly why. Possibly because this is a trope-filled Star Trek courtroom episode with a main character on trial, and we know they always end exactly the same way. There's no real stakes. Worf being goaded into punching Ch'Pok was quite terrible, you can see it coming a mile off and it's ridiculous that Worf has so little self control.
Most of all though, the entire concept of the episode is absurd, because the Klingons and the Federation currently have no formal diplomatic relationship. Why the hell would there be any sort of extradition hearing?
A few interesting things, though, there was a nice cinematic technique in which the actors speak directly to the camera as they fill in their statements. Ron Canada also does a pretty good job in the role of Ch'Pok, but the best moment of the whole thing is the dressing down and discussion that Sisko gives Worf at the end.
Best episode of the season so far. Might even be one of my favorites of the show.
One of my absolute fave episodes of the series. Just had so many clever, crazy bits that reminded me of how I first fell in love with the show in those early, less exposed days.
See, this is what Star Trek is supposed to be !
What should be a fascinating and enjoyable episode around the concept of first contact with an alien species ends up not working at all. This is because the alien species themselves are written and portrayed so poorly, they become insanely annoying. They managed to cast actors who are able to play characters you hate with perfection (no disrespect to them, they are great at doing it).
The scene with Bebe Neuwirth telling Riker he has to make love to her before she will help him is played for laughs but imagine if the roles were reversed. Not a good inclusion.
