This show has nothing exceptional about it at all. It's pretty lame and cookie cutter. Disappointing.
omg what a cool scishow finally something complex and bold. they say it's the show that's standing up to BsG, but I say it's time we had a space opera that's worthy.
also, I'm amazed how many details they can cram up inside a pilot without getting it too overloaded.
a big plus for me are the space cam sequences and the sfx are eye candy.
a minus is the fact that even today's tv shows can't avoid this trap: there's no soundwaves in space, the vacuum has no air to propell the sound. so why the frak do we always hear big booms and afterburners ?
all in all, this is one to keep your eyes on.
I have so much to say about this show and how bad it is. If you want a excellent supernatural drama, then watch this BUT only from season 1 to 5. The fifth season's finale offers a great ending to the show and after that, everything is just plain bad. The plots stop making sense, they bring back characters just to kill them off and introduce new ones nobody gives a shit about. Think about everything that makes the show amazing, all those characters you love. Well, you'll be lucky if they decide to kill them off, because they managed to ruin Castiel and Crowley's characters to a point where I can't even stand them. Season 10's Crowley is just terrible, all he does is sit on his chair in his castle or whatever the hell that is (look i made a pun) and kill random demons. Regarding Castiel, a lot happens to him after the fifth season, sure, but his character just doesn't evolve. This is so irritating because i was such a huge fan of this show but now i feel like i'm gonna have to drop it.
I can only recommend the 5 first seasons, after that everything is just bad.
Just look at the gap between season 1-5 ratings and season 6-10 (or 11 now, since it has been renewed), and really the only people still defending this show are tumblr hardcore fans and shippers.
Wanted to see what all the buzz was about... I've watched 5 episodes and got bored out of my mind. Feels like it's targeted for teenagers.
It has a very simplistic take to it: ultra-hyper-dramatization of very basic concepts and bad behaviors of a minority of people. Reviews say it raises questions about society and politics but does not provide arguments or details either way. The stories are sometimes interesting but lack any depth and in the end, it's the idea that counts, or so they say. Just presenting basic questions with no details and some vague/weird drama only makes people argue and thus promoting the series. I find it pretentious.
One of the society satires i enjoy is South Park which most of the times present quite a complete picture about a topic with multiple perspectives and arguments. Compared to South Park at that, Black Mirror is kind of showing you only what the main character(s) see.
Watching order
Because there are some issues with watching this, here is the order.
Copying from the site in case it ever goes down, but this info came from here: http://thunderpeel2001.blogspot.com/2010/02/battlestar-galactica-viewing-order.html
It's probably more confusing here on trakt, so go to the above linked site for a better layout.
The Miniseries
Night 1
Night 2
Season 1
1.01 33
1.02 Water
1.03 Bastille Day
1.04 Act of Contrition
1.05 You Can't Go Home Again
1.06 Litmus
1.07 Six Degrees of Separation
1.08 Flesh and Bone
1.09 Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
1.10 The Hand of God
1.11 Colonial Day
1.12 Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I
1.13 Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II
Season 2
2.01 Scattered
2.02 Valley of Darkness
2.03 Fragged
2.04 Resistance
2.05 The Farm
2.06 Home, Part I
2.07 Home, Part II
2.08 Final Cut
2.09 Flight of the Phoenix
2.10 Pegasus (56 minute extended version)
2.11 Resurrection Ship, Part I
2.12 Resurrection Ship, Part II
2.13 Epiphanies
2.14 Black Market
2.15 Scar
2.16 Sacrifice
2.17 The Captain's Hand
Razor (101 minute extended version - not the 81 minute broadcast version)
Important note: This was originally broadcast just before Season 4, but chronologically it fits here, telling more of the Pegasus's story. Some people argue it's better to watch after Season 3, as originally broadcast, but it makes most sense to watch it here.
The reason that the placement of Razor is a hotly contested issue among BSG fans is because of a bit of dialogue at the very end (in the last 10 minutes) which sets the tone for Season 4 (barely even a spoiler). Everything else in this TV movie is not a spoiler.
So why place it here, and not where it was originally broadcast, if there's any sort of issue? Because, chronologically, the story is set here, and by the time you reach the end of Season 3, the story of Pegasus will feel like ancient history. Indeed, that was the complaint echoed around the internet from fans after Razor originally aired -- it had nothing to do with what was going on in the story at that time.
As a result of this, most fans agree it's better to watch Razor here. In doing so, you'll appreciate the story more and it will have greater emotionally resonance. In short: I highly recommend that you follow my advice and watch it here.
There is one small caveat, however: In order to deal with the above dialogue issue, and so not to unintentionally alter the tone of Season 3, I have two, very specific instructions that I recommend that you follow for your absolute optimum enjoyment.
I will try not to spoil anything with these instructions, so pay attention. You need to press MUTE on your TV (and/or turn off any subtitles) in the following two moments. Both of these moments occur in the last 10 minutes of the story, so you can relax and enjoy the first 90 mins before you need to worry.
Press MUTE when:
and shortly afterwards:
That's it! That's all you have to worry about. Two very small moments, and even if you don't unmute it, it's not a huge spoiler, it just unintentionally alters the tone of Season 3 if you don't, so do try your best to follow my instructions.
2.18 Downloaded
2.19 Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I
2.20 Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II
The Resistance
A 10 episode web-based series bridging seasons 2 and 3. (25 mins.)
Season 3
3.01 Occupation
3.02 Precipice
3.03 Exodus, Part I
3.04 Exodus, Part II
3.05 Collaborators
3.06 Torn
3.07 A Measure of Salvation
3.08 Hero
3.09 Unfinished Business (70 minute extended version - Note: Not included on Region 2 DVDs, but is included on ALL Bluray releases.)
3.10 The Passage
3.11 The Eye of Jupiter
3.12 Rapture
3.13 Taking a Break From All Your Worries
3.14 The Woman King
3.15 A Day in the Life
3.16 Dirty Hands
3.17 Maelstrom
3.18 The Son Also Rises
3.19 Crossroads, Part I
3.20 Crossroads, Part II
Razor: Yes, this again. (Well this is where Razor was originally broadcast, after all.) Remember the last 10 minutes where I told you to MUTE two small moments? Well, guess what, now is when you get to go back and hear what was said. Watch the last 10 minutes of Razor here.
Season 4
4.01 He That Believeth In Me
4.02 Six of One
4.03 The Ties That Bind
4.04 Escape Velocity
4.05 The Road Less Traveled
4.06 Faith
4.07 Guess What's Coming to Dinner?
4.08 Sine Qua Non
4.09 The Hub
4.10 Revelations
Season 4 Continued (aka "Season 4.5" or "The Final Season")
4.11 Sometimes a Great Notion
The Face of the Enemy
A 10 episode web-based series (although it plays together like an intense mini-episode). (36 mins.)
4.12 A Disquiet Follows My Soul (53 minute extended version - only on Bluray releases)
4.13 The Oath
4.14 Blood on the Scales
4.15 No Exit
The Plan (DVD/Bluray movie)
A stand-alone movie that shows (approximately) the first two seasons from the Cylons' perspective. (You finally get to see "The Plan", mentioned all those times in the opening sequence!) Although The Plan was originally released after the show had finished, it is generally agreed that it should be watched here, so that everything is all tied up when you do reach the end.
4.16 Deadlock
4.17 Someone to Watch Over Me
4.18 Islanded In a Stream of Stars (62 minute extended version - only on BluRay releases and Region 1 DVDs)
4.19 Daybreak (150 minute extended version - only on BluRay releases and Region 1 DVDs)
The Plan : This is where this DVD/Bluray movie was originally released (after the show had finished). It seems universally agreed that it's preferable to watch this after No Exit, instead of after you've finished the entire series, but there's no harm in waiting until now.
Then Caprica the series: http://trakt.tv/show/caprica
If you're about to begin with Pretty Little Liars, let me tell you something:
You will love it on seasons 1 & 2 because of the unpredictable shocks and enormous suspense
You will hate it (but secretly you will love it) on seasons 3 & 4 because of the levels of delicious stupidity that the show reaches, but when you reach this point you are going to patiently wait for another episode because you desperately want to know what happens, even that you know that you will not get any answers until the finales.
This is how you make a good trashy tv show!
One of my favorites!
Ends on cliff hanger. Starts new ep. 5 minutes in its good. next 40 minutes its quite disappointing. Ends on cliff hanger. Repeat.
Good acting, it is a shame they went with the Scooby Doo writers guild. They had so many options for the writers to do more than making just another cop show. Zombies, crime writers, cops from the future, people with amnesia all fighting crime. Seems that the only professions that exist in TV land are cop, cop sidekick, doctor or lawyer.
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I can't believe I spent a whole day watching 8 episodes of this junk.
So disappointing.
Dropped it after the first season, sure it may not be the worst show or sure it may not even be bad but for me at least it felt pretty boring and repeditive after a while.
While I'm glad that Aaron Ashmore was able to land a role so soon after Warehouse 13, this series feels too self-contained and yet overtly complicated. I don't see it moving past the first season.
Found it very boring. The only thing half entertaining, at least for the men, is all the lezbian sex and boob shots. Only made it through episode 3 so maybe it got better, but cant stand it anymore.
Good scale and possibilities on paper, but uninspired in the realization - this show will be renamed from "Gotham" to "Gossip" next season.
Non-spoilerish;
After having finished Penny Dreadful S1 I must say I'm satisfied with how the first season ended. It seems the makers of PD knew there would eventually be a S2 and took their time and didn't rush through the story- that's awesome!
The show is/was enjoyable, delivered some really impressive performances and a well written story( apart from the misdefined egyptain creator diety Amon-Ra- that part is bullSHIT.
Amon-Ra was a more or less good buddy.)!
The cast- Great!
Eva has, once again, shown us what she's capable of as an actress. Impressive acting here!
Frankenstein, oh Frankenstein. I hate the Frankenstein stories and I already expressed my opinion on Frankenstein and his Creationin in my previous post, but someting has changed and I learned to actually like Frankenstein in Penny Dreadful!
What I absolutely don't like is Reeve's role, he plays sexy Dorian Grey, who basically didn't draw my attention at all. I simply didn't care if/when something awful happaned to him...
I was dry like an empty barrel, no tears, no pity and no sympathy!
His on-screen time was a joke! Reeve's a great actor and I think he deserved much better!
Scare/Anxiety Factor- mild/medium. Each ep. adds more mystery than anxiety.
Worth Watching? In my opinion, YUP! You should be watching! ^ ^
So i just got back from a special screening of the first episode and I can assure you this show is definitely going to be great. As a fan of both Fuller and the book, Gaiman being one of my favorite authors of all time and Hannibal, well, one of my favorite show of all time, everything I expected to see on screen was delivered here. The classyness of Fuller's aesthetic (that was already there in Hannibal) mixed with even more gore and blood serves Gaiman's work perfectly, if you've watched any of Fuller's previous work then you know that his way of telling stories lies deeply on the psychology of his characters and for an adaptation of American Gods you could not hope for someone better. This really is a perfect match and a fan of American Gods (the book) cannot possibly be disappointed in what he's going to find in this first episode. Oh and yeah, THAT scene with Bilquis is there, and.......well yeah, you have to see it. Don't hesitate for a second and watch the show as soon as it airs, Gaiman and Fuller are both geniuses and this series is sure to be incredible.
I just don't see this working as a TV show. I can see it dragging on and being really dumb. Just feels like a typical MTV teen drama with a few murders thrown in.
If the show stays on the same path as the first episode, we will be in for one hell of a ride
Constantine and now Hannibal, it's getting really hard not to hate NBC. I really hope Amazon will pick up the show, it deserves at least the seven seasons Fuller has planned
Someone once told me, television is a flat circle. Every show we've ever watched or will watch, we're destined to watch over and over and over again. Watching this show, sometimes I'm convinced that the creators have lost their minds. But there are other times, I think I'm main-lining the secret truth of the universe.
The main actor is so perfectly cast! The writing needs some work, but when it goes with Matt Ryan, the show is flawless. I hope it gets a S2, because it has potential when they let it be. Also the comics are great, so with that source, there is a lot to work with. The thing is that Ryan is 100% Hellblazer, but a lot of the show is more like early Supernatural.
highly underrated show!
it's written cleverly and keeps entertaining unlike other shows that get boring over time.
the character development is good.. particularly of the main character where they show his past!
it's just like The Mentalist which has a main story line which continues in the background while at the same time every episode has a new case.
this show has a lot of potential and i hope it gets renewed for a second season.
i think it deserves it.
Season 2 is a complete garbage
If you love „The Knick“ u will like Ratched
This has slowly become the show I HAVE to watch each week.
What the hell are you guys talking about? The show is a great time. It's not taking itself too seriously and it's poking fun at all the horror movie cliches. Good job Ryan Murphy. You've done it again!
With Wes Craven's recent passing this show can't be considered a honor to his work. Luckily he didn't do much else than let them use his name for the show.
You can't do a slasher movie as a TV series.
The above is an actual quote from a character in this show which certainly applies here. There is little "slasher" in this show! Instead they took some basic ideas from the genre and paired it with Pretty Little Liars whose fans also seem to be the target audience.
No one does a decent job acting, the dialogue is often cringey, the story sucks and they make absolute no use of the runtime to build the characters or go past the cliché. They even had the balls to go for a second season.
For anyone who liked the movies and thinks that the TV series is the logical continuation you have to watch: don't do it.
Tatiana Maslany is so underrated, what a brilliant actress.
Something like this comment was originally a reply to @Pedro, but I thought I'd put it here.
This show starts a little slow. It does that thing where the first few episodes are your typical boring cop procedural to show the network they know how to paint by numbers. Then it picks up.
It starts actually exploring the morals of mass surveillance, and (minor spoilers) it turns out the Machine is an AI, and they deal with all the interesting ramifications of living in a world secretly run by a benevolent(?) AI. One of the nice aspects of this show is the only fictional element of the Machine is software. Makes for a very grounded science fiction.
The characters start to deal with total corruption of the police system and attempt to take it down, meanwhile learning and redeeming themselves from their dubious past.
They also deal with taking down organised crime, and what to do when someone tries to consolidate power within the families, even though the new boss is less violent.
They get caught up in vast government conspiracies waging massive secret intelligence wars, and must stop innocent people from getting killed while remaining hidden from powerful people.
Heartbreak, romance, homoerotic sexual tension, SciFi, shooting people, explosions!
They stop making another cop show and start making some really compelling television.
