Finally a Marvel movie for adults. Despite the weak performance by Angelina Jolie I really enjoyed this dark movie!
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@bsalemink you might have a good point.
i lived for over 40 circles around the sun, and i don't think i will ever belong to that so called "adult" thing, though.
this flick is not even a masterpiece of crap because it sucked even at that... unlike prometheus, the true pinnacle of crap.
This movie is a pure nonsensical action from start to finish. Pure gold.
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@Abdullah11222245 simply use the stremio app
out of all the endings that come to mind, they chose the best one
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@AshkanLuqman for the film yes. for the general story, both will be better in my mind, where it goes for 5000 rather than 500 days, and they magically get back together. happened to my sister.
While going through a break up, this movie acted as the perfect balm to soothe the feelings within. A fantastic watch with very real, genuine characters.
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@SaadTirmizi in my case (as i just described in my other comment) i wouldn't call it a "perfect" balm. but my story haven't finished yet, so i hope your idea will prove me wrong. :grin:
This is absolutely horrific. It's amazing that Craig Robinson was able to escape this dreck that drowned the careers of everyone else involved. I couldn't even make it through 90 seconds of this movie, before I started fast forwarding. t's just unwatchable.
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@jmg999 probably true. but it's still my top 5 favourite trash movie i can remember. and i got an extensive list of top movies in many categories... :grin:
my 3rd comment in this fringe section of the internet about this dreadful story.
2 big problems with this movie:
first, i didn't like the first 10 minutes and, when that happens with a movie that have bad reviews, it's certain that it will be terrible. beware. if you don't like the beginning, you better stop there...
but the movie have enough action, mystery, and magic that it still lures in most people... so it becomes exponentially harder to stop if you're watching this late at night in bed with your romantic partner who can almost never quit a movie in the middle.
second, the final parts... i will reply to this comment with sp0ilers, if you want to read. but, trust yourself: if you didn't like the beginning, the ending is even worse, it is actually of the worst kind possible!
need a better still similar hero movie suggestion? watchmen obviously. kickass is slightly different, but much better than both. i also disliked "the boys" and it's a series, but it's still much better than this. heck, even the incredibles, with all their well-pointed-by-wisecrack missogeny will certainly entertain you better. which calls for the good animated ones, megamind and despicable me. have you watched them all already? try the whole evangelion. you need to endure until the glorious ending, though. need something fresh? sorry. best one i can recall would be doctors strange, the first one. marvel disney only went downhill from there. dc was never really a match, except for batman obviously... and a few others. if you just want to chill on a movie with good story, try perhaps "la belle verte". i got plenty of chaotic suggestions on my imdb lists and around the web. just search for cregox movies or films. :kissing_heart:
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@cregox the ending doesn't exist. it's a freaking "hang in there for part 2" forgot the name!
if you're reading this you either agree the movie isn't with watching or you don't care for shoulders at all, so...
3 of the 10 eternals died because freaking superman is freaking stupid (as usual with all supermen) and basically killed 2 of them, regretted in the end, and at least killed himself in pain (which shows he really really regretted it and supposedly redeemed his soul).
1 eternal will die because she is also freaking stupid and think mortality by age is a good feature... although i will agree it is, i only do so in practice. because in theory, as all stories are, it is not and i still hope i will prove it in reality. live long enough and you will see if i was right.
the indian eternal nobody cares about just go take care of the stupid child and disappears.
keeping count?
and, arbitrarily as hell, the one demigod in the movie who created all eternals randomly picked 3 of them to judge them against their acts of betrayal... and forgets the other 2! not to mention forgetting the other 5 who should still be of interest to the demigod who utilizes their memories for improving pers technology. things that are sure to not be explained in the next movie, mind you.
at this point i might have missed an eternal or 2 in my counting while i try to remember this whole crap i rather will soon completely forget.
too long? didn't read?
the engine will let you down in every possible way and might even entice you to watch the next crap although you hated this one.
the only good aspect for me here is that this was and will be the last crappy movie i watch whole.
Thanos's brother is not PURPLE???? WTH?
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@dungrapid5 good summary
Such a waste :( I loved the first one, with it's funny quirkiness and ridiculous over the top action, but this one is none of these things, unfortunately - it's a trying superhard to be socially and politically engaged, I don't know what it is - is it a comedy? Action movie? Drama? All and nothing at the same time. On one hand you have some "comedy romance" scene just to be cut short with a surreal drama. It might be I simply don't understand the socio-economical background this movie is coming from, but for what it's worth the first one wasn't trying to prove to me anything while being entertaining enough for a complete foreigner to grasp at least some of it's aspects.
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@bejot-deleted-1594919990 completely agreed! i didn't even want to watch it, but my friends insisted to try together. i would have stopped at 20 minutes, as credit from the first film. we all stopped in the middle, at the intermission. i was already, literally, sleeping.
I have trouble understanding how this movie is so highly rated. It started off strong but i really disliked all the social media, pop culture and political climate parts.
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@dipt.io 7 isn't so high at all. if you hated it so much, i fail to understand why you give it a 5...
but, then again, i think you just testified yourself why rating movies from 0 to 10 is bound to make meaningless scores...
this removes criteria from judgement and turns it into random numbers out of momentaneous feelings.
Absolutely loved it. The acting, the references, the comedy, all of it! If you're a hardcore gamer, a casual one or just a person who fantasizes your world in video games, this movie is a must watch.
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@4qhdfire we definitely didn't watch the same movie... thanks for sharing.
Review by Xiofire
Midsommar is a complicated beast. Those going for something as linear as Hereditary will be immediately disappointed by Midsommars somewhat convoluted plot elements and meandering pace. I sat in the cinema as the credits rolled by, deep in thought about what I just watched, and if it was any good. Nothing really sat well with me, and the film didn't really connect upon immediate completion, but I gave it time to digest.
Ari Asters two movies are very much at odds with each other. Hereditary slaps you with it's excellent presentation, pace, sense of dread and quality of acting on display. Then, upon further inspection, it's woven plot elements and symbolism shine through on subsequent viewing.
Midsommar is very much the opposite. The film almost dawdles in it's presentation and doesn't fully attack you with it's acting chops or narrative (although Florence is simply stunning in her portrayal of Dani). Midsommar more presents it's parts in a very matter-of-fact fashion, and then leaves it up to you to connect the dots of both the plot and what's on display. While there is far too much to unpack in this small comment section, I'd just like to detail some of my favourite themes on display in Midsommar, and why it went from a 6/10 during my cinema viewing, to a solid 8 - 8.5/10 upon reflection.--- LONG DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS BELOW THIS POINT ---
One of Midsommars central parallels is the individualism/selfishness of Western life and it's stark comparison to the commune we are introduced to. Examples of this are: During the intro, Dani is going through the trauma of a suicidal family member and her boyfriend, Christian, is encouraged by his friends to abandon her in her time of need telling her to see her therapist as it's not his problem. Christian echos these sentiments directly to Dani about her sister, telling her to leave her alone as she is just doing this for attention. Upon arriving at the commune in Sweden, Mark is unwilling to wait for Dani to be ready to take shrooms. Josh, knowing of Dani's recent trauma involving death, subjects her to the suicide of the elders for his own thesis and research. Christian uses the situation to further his own academic efforts, much to the annoyance of Josh. Everyone is acting in their own self interest regardless of the emotional toll this takes on their friendships. This is a stark contrast to how we see the commune deal with distress, emotion and personal issues. When Dani sees Christian cheating on her, the female members of the commune bawl, weep, scream and cry along with Dani, literally experiencing her burden with her to lessen the load. As described by Pelle, the commune "hold" you during your distress, helping you cope and living through those emotions with you. This is further cemented by the scene earlier in the movie, shortly after Dani's sister commits suicide. We see Dani hunched over Christian's lap overcome with emotion, screaming out the pain of the loss of her sister. Christian is anything but present however, his eyes vacant as if he weren't there with her at all. This is possibly my favourite theme of the movie, as it really paints how alone we are in modern society regardless of how many people we surround ourselves with. How many people are actually there for us in our time of need? Sure, they might be physically present, but are they actually there, sharing our pain? It's truly terrifying to think about.
My other favourite theme is who is and isn't a bad person. I've seen many people online say they think Christian is a horrible boyfriend for how he treats Dani. While I can understand their position, I struggle to see how Christian is the bad guy for his actions. Christian finds himself in a dying relationship which he is mentally checked out from but decides to stay to help her through the grief of losing her parents and sister. Christian even goes as far as to bring her on vacation with him to help her through her trauma, even though he wants to split up with her. Would the audience have prefered Christian leave Dani right after she lost her family? That would have been MUCH worse. Do these actions warrant what happens to Christian? I don't think so at all. Christian is so misunderstood in this movie, I can't wait to see it again to draw more conclusions on his character. Is Josh a bad person for wanting to fully envelope himself in a foreign culture? Although we know it is largely for academic gain, Josh does seem to love learning about the culture of these people, wanting to see how they operate and know every intricacy of their faith. Does this warrant his murder for trying to document their sacred texts? Should an outsider be murdered for enjoying and absorbing someone elses culture and customs, or should they be thanked for their interest and passion? (Sidenote, I see Josh's character as a direct reflection of the usual racial stereotypes we see in movies of this ilk. Usually we see the white academic researching the savage native/minority tribe, but Josh is the exactly flip of this, which is a nice touch). Were Connie and Simon wrong for coming into another culture and expressing disgust at their customs? Should they have been so outwardly disgusted and vocal about their disapproval while being welcomed in by the commune? Sure it didn't warrant their ultimate fate, but this small subplot asks an interesting question about outsiders attempting to shape and alter other cultures and customs as it doesn't sit with their ideals.
Other small details:
While it's directly conveyed to the viewer that the red haired girl is attempting to cast a love incantation on Christian via pubes in his pie and runes under his bed, very little attention is given to the fact that Christians drink is a slight shade darker than everyone elses. From the tapestry we see at the start of the festival, we know exactly what the red haired girl has slipped into his drink :face_vomiting: Fantastic subtle horror/grossness.Pelle talks about how his parents died in a fire and the commune helped him through the trauma of that loss. After the ending, it's pretty clear the fire wasn't an accident, and they evidently died for some kind of ritual.
Artwork above Dani's bed at the beginning shows a girl with crown kissing a bear. While direct foreshadowing to latter events, it also asks the question if this was all fate. Dani's sister's final message reads "I see black now" (potentially a reference to The Black One) before killing herself and her parents. Were Dani's parents 72 and this was the end of their cycle? Was Dani's sister already a distant member of the commune?
Runes are scattered all throughout the film to foreshadow certain character arcs or add more meaning. My favourite hidden rune is the doors to the temple, which when open, make the rune for "Opening" or "Portal". Amazing attention to detail.
Yeah, this movie is much MUCH better on reflection and I absolutely cannot wait to see it again. I really hope Ari's 3 hour 40 minute directors cut is released so there is more to dissect. While not as immediately impressive has Hereditary, Midsommar definitely has the layers and complexity to be a slowburn horror classic.
EDIT: I am now 4 days out from my first viewing and I've not stopped thinking about this movie. I've become a frequent visitor of the films subreddit and have even purchased/listened to the films dread-inducing yet somehow joyous soundtrack a number of times throughout the days. I've been reading up on runes and their meanings, reading up set analysis for hidden meanings and any other small details others can find. A movie hasn't vibed with me like this for a long long time so to reflect this, I think it's only right I bump my score from an 8/10 to a 9/10. When I can get my hands on the digital download/Blu-Ray, I'm sure this might even go higher.
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@Xiofire thanks for the review.
i never go to watch a movie expecting it will embrace the category it's in (horror on this case) because i always hope good movies won't fit in a category.
this wasn't the case.
the pace of midssomar, narrative, and the scenes are very much fitting into horror. to me, this means they, somehow, even if subconsciously, made the film to fit in the category, to reach a specific audience. -1
i also prefer fiction when it approaches reality. this one, like all horror, feels to get very far from it. reality is always more cruel than any film can ever depict. but it's also much more than that. and, in here, all we can really SEE is the horror only. -1
reasons why my score is and will stay at 8, no matter how good the details are.
yet, once again, thanks for the review. 8 is still very good, and it's always worth it to see it again, even if only through someone's point of view! :kissing_heart:
this did not age well in my life.
for one, the blower's daughter gets cut. the most beautiful message comes in the end of the song, but i can see why it got cut for the movie. i don't remember when i learned this, but for sure i didn't care enough about such minute details back in 2004.
but also, the whole drama, which may have made some sense to me when i never had a relationship myself before, became almost surreal! i can surely see too many people living such lives. fuck, i got 1y into a split up now (after 14y together, watching and rewatching many movies looking for inspiration), supposedly without games or lies (for sure none from my end). and, still, i don't see why we can't just get over so much drama!
i guess the film does give a good portrayal of drama addiction. of which i got exhausted, even if i hardly ever watched soap operas.
the end of the song can change everything though! enjoy.
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@cregox oh yeah, outstanding acting of course. perfect casting. still enjoyable to watch and some nice jokes.
Decent movie, nothing too special. The idea is nice, the execution isn't that great. You never feel very excited about anything in the movie, it just plays out.
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@Nibbix exactly my feelings. just different rating
Overrated, basic hero locked in Bad situation, basic lovestory called early, music's great but doesnt make an old action movie a sudden masterpiece
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@yannt2 agreed people do overrate this, but you need to watch really crappy movies if you think this any less than a 7.
The best romcom I've ever watched. Also the best endless time loop thing. Beautiful!
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@w2m really? i agree it is a 10, but groundhog still beats it. even click has an edge. best one for me will forever be bedazzled (which has a connection to groundhog, unsurprisingly).
This was a fun movie. I went in without knowing the premise of the time loop, which made it even more fun. When the arrow hits Nyles in the shoulder, we shouted WTF?? Up until that point, it was trending towards a typical rom-com, but from that point on is when it got fun.
It's always hard to keep the plot holes in line with these types of movies, but why did Nana say that Sarah was leaving soon? And the mid-credits scene made no sense and didn't match up with the rules of the main story.
I went back and watched the beginning again now that I know the premise. It's definitely different the second time around!
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@Schenley nana knew, obviously. and they sadly got out of the loop too soon, in my perspective. because she couldn't really enjoy the gift.
Rarely seen such a waste of a good premise and great actors.
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@Maximumeffort1388 try son of a mask or tree of life
