What an episode, what a finale! A thrilling conclusion to the story and top-notch acting might make this the best episode of this season and maybe even one of the best ones in the whole show. Can‘t wait for next season.
I'd lick a table for $20,000
Not sure what this season is about yet, but I'm having trouble dealing with the lack of wrinkles and changes of shape in the faces of Aniston and Witherspoon. They look like a Madamme Toussaud's version of themselves. Fortunately there's Julianna Margulies: wrinkled and beautiful and looking like an older version of her younger self.
Well, ok. Let me think about it: Season 3 and 4 was kinda disappointing cause the show felt like drifted so much apart from what the first two seasons was like. It was an awful sign that the series quality was declining when they got Kenny killed in season 3 premiere (yeah I still didn't get over it).
Villanelle always wanted a normal, nice life. Facts. And she couldn't have this life, I get it. Her picture of a happy life with Eve by her side... Everyone knew this couldn't happen, right? But it was so stupid the way everything was done. The Twelves scenes was dreadful! A bunch of faceless people, it felt like Game of Thrones' battle agains the King Of The Night all over again - since the first season we were waiting this encounter just to receive this anticlimate fighting scene.
And Carolyn making the calls to kill her!... But who killed her? Boo! I thought there would be a huge surprise, maybe a face from the past between the Twelves or KENNY... I don't know. But yeah, automatic guns came out of nowhere and killed her, I bet. By the way, I was rooting for both of them to get killed, it would be SO MUCH BETTER! It was the tale of the frog and the scorpion and they both ended dead. It would be better than this. At least my soul would get a proper relief. Now I'm thinking: What will happen to Eve? I would like to revisit this character just to see how she's doing in a year or so, oh, but wait: THIS WILL NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! She should be dead as well. That's all.
When the end appeared on screen, it made me speechless. The Twelves, complex criminal organization, gathered in one place and were murdered in just 1 minute by a single assassin. Villanelle’s death is no surprise for me but how it executed is very disappointing.
There are no clearly answer to many plots i.e. who killed Kenny, who actually run the Twelve, who pulls the triggers on Villanelle, what about Konstantin’s daughter. Pam’s storyline was intrigued at first but end with such a light impact to the main story. I feel like this season has more filler than plot-driven episodes.
What the hell? Four seasons and now they want to kill off Vilanelle?
Plus, taking a daughter for an “adventure” and outright killing someone’s person is barely measurable. What the heck. I hope this isn’t what happened. I do realise the show has Eve’s name, not hers, and I realise the title, but still.
What the heck. No.
In other news… the 12 started as a student atheist group? Or were they already assassins and agents all of them? Hmm.
they're just spinning their wheels at this point, even the air guitar scene just felt like the writers' room going hey let's get Fiona Shaw to do air guitar! the fans'll love that! for absolutely no reason other than to get Fiona Shaw to play air guitar. absolutely pointless season
Sandra Oh doing the best she can with weakass material, only she is escaping this season with her dignity intact
I thought they were going to drag the whole Christianity storyline through the whole season. I'm glad that's over.
I'm so hyped that this is back on TV and so devastated they killed Kenny. He deserved better.
This episode gives me Harry Potter vibes. Esp. the statue with the raven.
Great stuff from Christian Serratos this episode. Overall, a nice way to end my favourite television show.
The show had its up and downs.
But honestly I found the last season a high tick up in quality over the last few & it felt like a return to form, so I'm glad it ended in a bang (pun intended).
One thing that did prevail thru the up's and down was the cast. They were the heart of the show and put their all into every episode. Many giving performances that are wave above & beyond cable TV. The show gets a ton of hate, but overall I'd say it was a fun journey & I'll definitely miss it.
Thanks for the wild ride & I'm excited to see what they do with TWDU.
P.S - Haters who comment on LITERALLY every episode, can ya'll please just NOT watch any of the other shows & b*tch non-stop no matter how good it is? It will make all of our lives a lot easier :)
All in all a decent episode. I particularly loved the moment where they pull up Negan (and Annie) to be executed but the group intervened. I love how they hinted back at the iconic deaths of Abraham and Glenn through the way it was set up. But in the end nothing really happened right? No major deaths, no shock... it ended with a fizzle.
So now it's only two more episodes and that's that. I hope they bring the action... pump it up! I will not be satisfied if everyone comes out of this alive.
[6.6/10] Is it just me or has The Walking Dead felt kind of dumbed down in its final frame? I don’t know if I have the perfect way to explain it. As I’ve mentioned before, TWD was most often in the realm of “kinda dumb show that thinks it’s smart,” but by gum, they were trying. Now it seems like the show’s content to be simplified (thematically at least) as it lurches toward an ending that I’m struggling to muster any excitement for.
This episode is primarily a referendum on Negan’s redemption. Between Judith’s opening spiel, Ezekiel talking about the dearly departed Benjamin (whom I’d totally forgotten about), and Eugene obliquely referencing his time as the Saviors’ scientist, there’s reminders of where Negan started, regardless of where things are now. The central question here, then, is if this whole redemption thing is an act and if he’ll throw the rest of our heroes under the bus to save his wife.
That’s not bad in principle. But I just never bought it as a real possibility. The show more or less does the work to show us why Negan might fall. He loves his wife and wants to protect his future child. It wouldn’t just be bargain basement malevolent Negan again. He’d have a justification, however self-focused it would be. But on a practical level, the announcement of future projects made me skeptical that the show would go through with it. And more to the point, Negan had most of his redemption off screen during the time jump, and Annie is barely a character. So while we can understand, in principle of course, why he’d care so much about protecting his wife, she’s mostly been a prop to this point, so it doesn’t carry the emotional weight of if he were trying to protect, say, Judith, whom we’ve seen him build an actual bond with over time.
More to the point we just got to Outpost 22. Nobody here is a character yet. The show tries to turn the warden into a Negan Jr., with the idea that this scenario is meant to feel like Negan challenging a younger version of himself, to extend the metaphor. But he’s a pale imitation at best, spouting bland speeches about leadership with none of Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s flair or pizzazz. He’s a meaningless villain, caricatured and unmemorable, which makes it hard to care about him as an opponent.
The same goes for the prison guard who wants a transfer out of Outpost 22, and ultimately turns on his superiors. Sure, in theory someone responsible for maintaining this slanted version of law and order deciding it’s morally wrong and acting on that conviction is a big deal. But we barely know this guy. The writers try to give him a little shading, but there’s only so much you can do in a handful of short scenes. So much here feels rushed and unsatisfying given how little time is spent developing these situations and the people who populate them.
I’m hard-pressed to give a damn about much else in this episode either. It’s nice to see Dan Fogler’s Luke again (with his crush in tow) before the end of the series. Frankly, I’d kind of thought he’d been quietly written off given the actor's other commitments, and he was one of the better members of the new class that showed up post time-jump, so it’s pleasant to have a coda with him. But like a lot of the non-Negan bits in the episode, it feels like piece-moving before the big bang rather than anything that really advances the story. The fact that Oceanside has fallen, and Aaron’s crew has to pretend to be Walkers to avoid the roving Commonwealth patrols is fine, but leaves little impression.
I’m also nonplussed by the trial of Eugene. The idea of them trying to start a revolution through the public case in a Kangaroo court seems an odd plan to begin with. The end result is a lot of unmoving speeches full of the usual bromides. In the end, I appreciate that Eugene is essentially directing his address, which is nominally to “the court”, to Mercer, since he’s the real key. But the scenes are boring, and turning this show into a stock staid courtroom drama makes for an odd fit. That said, “Mercer” telling Eugene that it’s time to go fuck some shit up is the most firstpump-worthy scene the show’s had in a while, so credit where it’s due.
The bit with the original crew of the survivors hunting for the kids isn’t much better. Them returning to Alexandria to protect their children should feel momentous and emotional. And by god, they try. But it plays like a side dish to the Negan business, and way too easy to have any real tension. I appreciate the fact that they’re not leaving the tender business of raising a child in the zombie apocalypse alone. But Carol and Maggie’s conversation is redundant of the one they had in the last episode, and the writing’s just not very good. It’s full of trite cliches and observations, and despite my previous attachment to Maggie and Glen, Herschel has likewise mostly been a prop, so his rescue doesn’t stir much emotion either.
The business with Negan at the end at least has some verve. As always on The Walking Dead, even when the writing isn’t brilliant, Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s performance can elevate the material. Him ready to martyr himself for the cause, only to go mad when he sees someone threatening the person he loves like he threatened Glen and Abraham has some poetry to it. Again, the execution is a bit rote and undermotivated. But you can see the good guys protecting Annie and Negan with their bodies, and the soldiers (or at least, a soldier) deciding this is a bridge too far. So it’s sound as an idea, even if the show hasn’t adequately built to it. As a tonic to the most iconic Negan scene, there’s merit, which helps paper over some of the narrative shortcuts to get there.
Overall, TWD continues not to wow me as we head into the final two episodes, which is a little sad. Two big installments remain, but everything here feels like a typical day at the office for the series, without the extra excitement or sense of an impending epic conclusion that the pulpy show suggested would be in the offing. It makes me concerned that we’re not going to get much in the way of a definitive conclusion, or even semicolon on the end of the mainline series -- just a “to be continued in the spinoffs” sort of ending. But hopefully they prove me wrong.
I just enjoyed the episode. After years watching this show; I still don't understand people complaining... Just don't watch it. Plain simple. :)
OMG Milad, you’re such a fucking idiot. I don’t understand what Tamar sees in him.
Best episode in recent times..
Dullest episode ever and I've seen every one
if watching Daryl fix his bike and Carol make soup while hunting a rat is your idea of a good walking dead episode, i'm sure you were glued to your seat during this, i however was bored out of my skull. thank god we only have one more of these filler episodes left
Quite possibly one of the most useless episodes of television I've ever seen
The many adventures of Carol and Daryl. Today Dog will knock over Carol's soup, Carol will capture a rat, let it free, and chase after it on the floor, Daryl will fix his bike with some black cords he tore from cars, and Carol repeatedly stabs a wall with a knife. Spare yourself.
These "exra" episodes sort of feel like they are COVID filler episodes - one to 3 actors, socially distanced, and telling stories that, honestly, dont move the story along more than just give filler "a day in the life" of a character.
This one is another one of these. It's the Carol and Daryl show. (Many years ago, when Carol was the cookie making housewife of Alexandra, I said I could see her and Daryl having a 1960's style comedy - the happy couple. She cooks and cleans and gets blood stains and oil out of the clothes, and Daryl is fighting Zombies at the door and fixing up his bike in the garage....). They part ways (I love how Dawg goes with Carol. He knows where the soft home life is). Carol goes back and wants to be helpful in some way. And Daryl is just being Daryl - scavenging, surviving and look cool doing it.
Next episode might be about them watching the paint dry on the wall.
Ever watched your grandma chase a rat around the house and think I should write a tv episode about this? No? Me either.
Enjoyed this episode. First one in a while. I really like that Maggie's back.
