For the love if shit, people. Without the first 3 episodes we wouldn't have this episode. Without the first 3 episodes this one wouldn't be as impactful. It's storytelling and all part of a larger whole. Stop saying, "finally we're getting somewhere," or "this is what the show should have been from the start." Its a journey. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Holy shit.
One of the best episodes of the series. The ending is breathtaking.
Thumbs up if you said "What the fuck..." to your TV before the opening credits.
And I thought this show couldn't get any worse before this episode. This one is the straw...
You know all those great shows where you don't know a characters' true intentions because the writers have woven a complex web of motivations and character traits. Well this show has that, but without any discernible reason due to character or motivation.
You know all those great shows where favorite characters are put in precarious situations and the intensity comes from wondering how they'll escape, well this show has that except it happens off screen and in this case totally stupid stuff happens off-screen (again), because it is patently unjustifiable in the context of the story, an experienced ZA survivor gets bitten in the stomach of all places, and is now doomed.
You know all those great shows where you're rooting for the villain to get his comeuppance but he always just escapes because of ingenuity, smarts or just that bit of luck, well this show has that except the villain escapes because the heroes are dumbasses. Freakin' Negan escapes death again, when all Rick has to do is hit him hard with the bat, instead of that love-tap, or just jump up and shoot him through the window instead of running away.
You know all those great shows where the action is intense and yet still easy to follow because of amazing direction, well this show has that, except the exact opposite (hard to follow and no intensity because of convoluted story-telling).
You know all those great shows...yeah, I'm just going to watch those...instead.
I'm done with you TWD.
Ahhhhhh i’m so happy they are not shying away from the tough conversations on what it means to be Captain America in this decade. I love symbolism in storytelling and there’s no stronger symbol than that shield, and the way they have used it as a vehicle and representative of the different American identities (good and (really) bad) has been incredible.
Steve Rogers, John Walker, Sam Wilson and Isaiah Bradley all represent sides of the US that co-exist, and John Walker being the effective Captain America for most of this show isn’t accidental - he’s the side of America that’s most present and salient right now (in the world off the screen), but ending the show with Sam Wilson carrying that shield - and going through all the issues that that might bring up - is as powerful a message as any - one of hope and of what the US should aspire to be. Steve Rogers is no longer enough, Steve Rogers is the American Dream - Isaiah Bradley the American Reality - and Sam Wilson is both. This show, and all of Captain America’s storyline, is about so much more than just men in spandex and they’ve done a fantastic job taking it even further here. Glad Marvel is still delivering after so many years, makes me proud to be a fan!
When you're sitting in front of your TV, rolling eyes, yelling at the screen "Come on, just die already!", then there is something fundamentally wrong with the pacing and presentation of an episode.
I'm a simple girl. If a show has anything to do with superheroes, if it's in any way connected to Marvel or DC, there's a good chance I'll watch it. And I'll probably love it, whether it's dark and gritty like Jessica Jones or charming and family-friendly like Supergirl. Legion is no exception to the rule.
I'm not a comic book reader. I didn't know the first thing about the character when I started the episode, and I had no idea what to expect. Having just finished it, I think I can safely say that this show is unlike anything I've watched before. In a good way. I enjoyed every second of the pilot. The cinematography is spectacular. The bright colors, the flashing lights, almost horror-like moments, blurring the lines between reality and David's delusions, scenes of people dancing - because why not?, seemingly random shots and flashbacks, and the general insanity all create a completely unique atmosphere. It's almost hypnotizing, making it impossible for you to look away, drawing you in. The plot isn't the most revolutionary, but the way the show is shot and edited still makes it feel fresh and original. I like the characters and I'm excited to see what will happen next.
This show turned into shit...and yet, I smile.
Nancy and Jonathan do not have chemistry. It’s exhausting that I have to suffer through this forced romance.
Eleven suggesting she can trick or treat hidden in a ghost costume was a nice nod to E.T.
The whole Neegan thing is just not believable, and this episode made that more clear. The amount of people that would view him with pure hatred would be off the charts, and unlike other fictional bad guys who act like this, he keeps no security around him 95% of the time. The guy would have been dead 1000 times over in a faithfully realized TWD universe. Hell, I've hardly got off my couch for the last 7 years and I could have killed him at least 20 times in this episode alone, not even counting the obviously missed opportunity by a battle hardened and hate filled teen in the early minutes. Also the Neegan performance was even more one-note-wondery than usual tonight. This show is really losing me now, I'm sad to say.
OK so the second act is being enjoyably batshit from the off.
Also, to the other commentors, kindly fuck off with your homophobia and idiotic "woke trash" dismissal - honestly don't see what was so 'woke' about this episode.
Besides, a decade in, you should know what you're getting with this show.
I wish they'd stop babying Carol and unleash crazy Carol already!
tessa thompson come collect your emmy
Who is writing this crap? It's absolute hot garbage.
For example the garbage truck attack on the savior compound... Who were the snipers covering Daryl from? How were the walkers supposed to get in with the garbage truck still in the hole? Why was it gone from the hole when they are seen entering?
Or, when Rick had the garbage patch kids' leader. There was no threat there, the zombie was decapitated and Rick had no weapon on her. Why wouldn't one of the 20 people surrounding him with guns just kill him?
"i trust you with my life but i dont trust you with my heart" im not crying i just have a giant tree stuck in my eye....
Nicole Kidman is so unbelievably good in this show.
you know what? i don't even expect much anymore. conveniently found roller skates that surprisingly fit you? sure why the hell not. enid having a never-ending stock of balloons? ofc. she's also besties with maggie because they talked out of the blue in the previous season and it has nothing to do with her needing to be connected to other characters once they separate her from carl? yep. gregory intended to sell out maggie and sasha, yet haven't told "trevor" what was in the closet when they were in his office? that's totally believable, i can see him saying "could be women, could be booze. i guess we'll find out!" oh and a bunch of zombies was killed while weird classical music was playing in the bg because the show-runners remembered this is a zombie show. coolio.
Iain De Caestecker deserves all the awards.
That was a lot of fun. I'm glad they gave Tara an episode. I've always been a fan.
The directing on this episode was really below average, typified by those bookend close up shots which were equal parts pretentious and atrocious. Also, the lack of sense of place, what the objectives were, why people were splitting/meeting up, bad fight scenes, Rick & Daryl wandering around the Saviors' main lair with almost no one there to stop them, and...actually just everything. Worst of all we're no further advanced than last week, ok, they've taken 1 (count 'em) one outpost.
In fact, this week's episode of Z Nation had a better sense of place, equal movement of the plot, and less confusing machinations than this one and the protagonists in that show spent the whole episode in weird teleporting boxes being zapped unconscious with sound by an unknown entity who was using them to clear out a zombie infested underground factory complex after being honey-potted by a driver-less ghost-truck.
i love that all that talk about bringing complex female characters to the forefront of the entertainment industry was not empty. conceptually, sharp objects revolves around violence, but it is not imposed on women by men as in big little lies or by a female assassin without considering the gender of her victims as in killing eve. it is imposed on women by women. it is this unique portrayal of generational female violence, both narratively and cinematographically, that makes the show so captivating. amy adams and patricia clarkson are simply magnificent. i love every shot. it's such a pity that we have to wait an entire week for a new episode.
What a weird episode.
What a weird plan that apparently noone saw coming? How weird noone decided to just shoot Negan in the nogging? What a weird bunch of speeches and how weird people appeared to be riled up by something so lackluster? How weird that Negan thought bringing out that one guy from that one place would work? How weird some people all of a sudden don't seem to be so appetizing to a horde of zombies. How weird there was apparently only one side to this war? How weird to shoot at windows, to blow up just a courtyard? How weird all those cars could drive out of that area? Weird flashforwards or dreamsequences. Weird aging that only seems to affect Rick.
Weird that the writers of this dreck seem to keep getting away with all this contrived bullshit. There was almost no suspense, no ROAR moment... what a mess. I don't get how Fear the Walking Dead can be so drastically different and more realistic than this. I'm sure there will be good episodes this season but I'm getting a bit tired of the stupidity of the characters and events and the way these episodes play out. I'm so annoyed with this episode and I haven't even listed all it's flaws (including the unlogical nonsense I usually tend to ignore... You are holding an automatic rifle and all you can say is "what?" when your archnemesis tells you you're gonna shit your pants?" COME ON!!! At least let the magical priest lose his weapon on the way?)
Also weird "everyone" seems to love it btw.
Someone on the writing team needs to take a page out of Telltale's book by making a season as gripping and tense as the video game series. They can write a good episode for sure but too many stale episodes really made the whole season fall flat.
literally the most boring storyline they ever did on b99. i couldnt care less about baby storylines in any show. why do writers think we need them.
jake's hair looks so good.... thanks nbc
eleanor was wonderfully bisexual on this episode and i sign in for her to be even more on subsequent ones. thank you
also, very interesting episode, solved like a normal sitcom/drama but with the typical other-wordly the good place spin, this show really is heading somewhere fantastic and unique
Nothing... Literally nothing of any importance happened this episode.
I'm gonna have to go against the grain here and say this was a poor episode for Game of Thrones standards and not even in my opinion on how the story line will play but the actual episode in it of it's self and in comparison to the rest of the series
The whole season like many have pointed out has been way to hectic without getting any real satisfaction or grasp of the scenes because they're so rushed to advance the plot, as Sansa said this episode Jon has be gone for weeks yet the pacing is so off that nothing can be placed or timed easily and there's just numerous major jumps that seem right to.
So many decisions that just seem absurd and are just for convenience so the guys make it out (the whole expedition/plan was a farce anyways regardless and made up on the spot without any consideration or thought into Cersei's response to it but even ignoring that), that 1st ambush on the tiny group and being able to take down a Walker with such ease so simply to leave one undead remaining (WHY DID ONE REMAIN?!?) for them to bring home was too outlandish and unbelievable. Then only for them to have Gendry be the only one to return(?) to send a raven in time and have Dany save the day all in ONE EPISODE as they sit in a LOTR circle of undead and obviously evacuate unscathed. With the exception of Night King hitting the flying moving dragon at a further distance than the obvious one sitting stationary with the gang!?! Damn, took me way out of the whole episode, no immersion and I thought it was mess compared to say the pit scenes with the dragons or even any other really. Granted this is unprecedentedly more epic and huge in stature but I don't think they did it justice whatsoever
I get the direction they've decided to take the show and I can't blame them, what with not having the books to lean on but I can't help but think how if they (final books) were out by now this whole expedition would've been a whole season with a lot more too it than feeling nothing as I watch a beautiful scene as a dragon comes crashing down black hawk style, and finally what an injustice Benjen going out was... Just sums my critique of convenience and lack of depth especially with the fact that he could have made it out together on that horse but he gets the standard cliched heroic deus ex machina death to "slow down" the dead which is a dumb excuse to sacrifice himself
Debbie was like a completely different character in this episode, wow. It was great to finally see Debbie and to not be annoyed because she did something stupid. I loved how she called out Lip and told him to get his shit together and at the same time she mentioned that she applied to Junior College and actually put some thought into it. It was really nice.
I enjoyed hearing Lip talking about his drinking. He started when he was in fourth grade and everyone around him thought it was pretty normal, so apparently he doesn't even remember anymore how to live his life without alcohol. And when that guy from the meeting asked him if he really wants to quit he actually hesitated. That's what I was talking about all the time - I don't think Lip has really reached the point where he wants to quit drinking.
Also, I just love Kev. He's one of my absolute favorite characters in this show. Nearly every scene with him makes me laugh and him working at the gay bar just seems so normal :D
And bonus points for that short scene with Ian and Mickey under the bridge. It was short, but really nice and cute :')
But the next scene with them was the exact opposite - It just hurt to watch. We all know how much they love each other, but it's a good decision that Ian doesn't want to get dragged into this mess. (Now I just hope he won't go back to Trevor. I'm sorry, but I still find him way too boring and arrogant.) It's just so sad because Mickey mentioned so many times that he missed Ian and Mickey is completely alone now. Yeah, it was a sad scene and I'm upset that this is apparently the end of these two :c
