For the love if shit, people. Without the first 3 episodes we wouldn't have this episode. Without the first 3 episodes this one wouldn't be as impactful. It's storytelling and all part of a larger whole. Stop saying, "finally we're getting somewhere," or "this is what the show should have been from the start." Its a journey. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Holy shit.
As someone who's been a major fan of many TV shows for years and years, and someone who only got into Lost a few months ago: Lost is the greatest thing to ever have been televised. Seriously. Nothing has ever been so immersive, atmospheric and ambitious as this show. It had me gripped from start to finish, and I was genuinely satisfied by the ending (it's incredibly misunderstood). There has never been a TV series as big as Lost, and there may never be again.
One of the best episodes of the series. The ending is breathtaking.
Thumbs up if you said "What the fuck..." to your TV before the opening credits.
And I thought this show couldn't get any worse before this episode. This one is the straw...
You know all those great shows where you don't know a characters' true intentions because the writers have woven a complex web of motivations and character traits. Well this show has that, but without any discernible reason due to character or motivation.
You know all those great shows where favorite characters are put in precarious situations and the intensity comes from wondering how they'll escape, well this show has that except it happens off screen and in this case totally stupid stuff happens off-screen (again), because it is patently unjustifiable in the context of the story, an experienced ZA survivor gets bitten in the stomach of all places, and is now doomed.
You know all those great shows where you're rooting for the villain to get his comeuppance but he always just escapes because of ingenuity, smarts or just that bit of luck, well this show has that except the villain escapes because the heroes are dumbasses. Freakin' Negan escapes death again, when all Rick has to do is hit him hard with the bat, instead of that love-tap, or just jump up and shoot him through the window instead of running away.
You know all those great shows where the action is intense and yet still easy to follow because of amazing direction, well this show has that, except the exact opposite (hard to follow and no intensity because of convoluted story-telling).
You know all those great shows...yeah, I'm just going to watch those...instead.
I'm done with you TWD.
Ahhhhhh i’m so happy they are not shying away from the tough conversations on what it means to be Captain America in this decade. I love symbolism in storytelling and there’s no stronger symbol than that shield, and the way they have used it as a vehicle and representative of the different American identities (good and (really) bad) has been incredible.
Steve Rogers, John Walker, Sam Wilson and Isaiah Bradley all represent sides of the US that co-exist, and John Walker being the effective Captain America for most of this show isn’t accidental - he’s the side of America that’s most present and salient right now (in the world off the screen), but ending the show with Sam Wilson carrying that shield - and going through all the issues that that might bring up - is as powerful a message as any - one of hope and of what the US should aspire to be. Steve Rogers is no longer enough, Steve Rogers is the American Dream - Isaiah Bradley the American Reality - and Sam Wilson is both. This show, and all of Captain America’s storyline, is about so much more than just men in spandex and they’ve done a fantastic job taking it even further here. Glad Marvel is still delivering after so many years, makes me proud to be a fan!
Preliminary review, my final review for Season 1 is in another comment (I didn't want to just edit over this, especially with the likes on it). Very light spoilers for the first few episodes ahead.
I wanted to throw my hat in the ring and give a genuine review of the series as far as I've watched so far (I'll review it properly when I'm done with the season).
So, let's start with the Baphomet in the room (haha), and note that there is some very overt feminism in this series. As I hear, it tapers off as the series goes on, and I look forward to that, because while it is absolutely not pervasive to every corner of the series, it's a cringey part of the early episodes. I wholly support progressive movements, I am happy to see a non-binary character on the show, and Sabrina's attempts to defend said character. I wholly support Sabrina being a sassy, empowered female character who 'sticks it to the man'.
That said, constantly pointing to a plot element and going: 'This is women standing up to the patriarchy!' is unnecessary. As I said before, it's cringey. Let the work speak for itself.
That said, the series, while not a masterpiece, is interesting so far. I appreciate its willingness to broach Satanism (with all its LaVeyan trappings) and all the horror, gore, and sexuality that comes with it. When it just moves forward with the plot, and doesn't spend its time pointing out its progressiveness, it's a solid supernatural drama.
I do find Roz to be tedious. I think Harvey and Sabrina's relationship is unearned (they are way too lovey for 16 year olds with so many secrets between them, and Sabrina, so far, has been rather self-centered, while Harvey plays the devoted and doting boyfriend; feels very much like the criticisms feminists often have about the roles women play in their relationships with men in other stories). I hope that this gets approached with some maturity, instead of devolving into a mess of drama, but sadly, I feel it could easily go either way.
Ambrose is a great addition to the cast, fulfilling the morally ambiguous role that Salem played in the original (but also being properly morally ambiguous, in keeping with the dramatic tone, rather than comically so).
I'll make a proper review when I've finished with the season, but I just felt like this comment section could use a genuine review rather than the 'feminism is ruining everything!' reviews that it has mostly seen so far.
When you're sitting in front of your TV, rolling eyes, yelling at the screen "Come on, just die already!", then there is something fundamentally wrong with the pacing and presentation of an episode.
The day that Ben Affleck stops being Batman is the day that Batman comes back to become the best superhero films of all. This guy with 0 acting skills is destroying it. Too many awesome films before him to let it pass.
I'm a simple girl. If a show has anything to do with superheroes, if it's in any way connected to Marvel or DC, there's a good chance I'll watch it. And I'll probably love it, whether it's dark and gritty like Jessica Jones or charming and family-friendly like Supergirl. Legion is no exception to the rule.
I'm not a comic book reader. I didn't know the first thing about the character when I started the episode, and I had no idea what to expect. Having just finished it, I think I can safely say that this show is unlike anything I've watched before. In a good way. I enjoyed every second of the pilot. The cinematography is spectacular. The bright colors, the flashing lights, almost horror-like moments, blurring the lines between reality and David's delusions, scenes of people dancing - because why not?, seemingly random shots and flashbacks, and the general insanity all create a completely unique atmosphere. It's almost hypnotizing, making it impossible for you to look away, drawing you in. The plot isn't the most revolutionary, but the way the show is shot and edited still makes it feel fresh and original. I like the characters and I'm excited to see what will happen next.
This show turned into shit...and yet, I smile.
Nancy and Jonathan do not have chemistry. It’s exhausting that I have to suffer through this forced romance.
Eleven suggesting she can trick or treat hidden in a ghost costume was a nice nod to E.T.
The whole Neegan thing is just not believable, and this episode made that more clear. The amount of people that would view him with pure hatred would be off the charts, and unlike other fictional bad guys who act like this, he keeps no security around him 95% of the time. The guy would have been dead 1000 times over in a faithfully realized TWD universe. Hell, I've hardly got off my couch for the last 7 years and I could have killed him at least 20 times in this episode alone, not even counting the obviously missed opportunity by a battle hardened and hate filled teen in the early minutes. Also the Neegan performance was even more one-note-wondery than usual tonight. This show is really losing me now, I'm sad to say.
OK so the second act is being enjoyably batshit from the off.
Also, to the other commentors, kindly fuck off with your homophobia and idiotic "woke trash" dismissal - honestly don't see what was so 'woke' about this episode.
Besides, a decade in, you should know what you're getting with this show.
I wish they'd stop babying Carol and unleash crazy Carol already!
tessa thompson come collect your emmy
this cartoon give to the gays all our rights in the world
Who is writing this crap? It's absolute hot garbage.
For example the garbage truck attack on the savior compound... Who were the snipers covering Daryl from? How were the walkers supposed to get in with the garbage truck still in the hole? Why was it gone from the hole when they are seen entering?
Or, when Rick had the garbage patch kids' leader. There was no threat there, the zombie was decapitated and Rick had no weapon on her. Why wouldn't one of the 20 people surrounding him with guns just kill him?
"i trust you with my life but i dont trust you with my heart" im not crying i just have a giant tree stuck in my eye....
I can only think of a handful of TV shows that have BLOWN ME AWAY like this every damn week.
Definitely the best TV show to premiere this year so far, and i'm so glad it was already renewed for a Season 2! I still feel like people are sleeping on Pose. Wake the hell up everybody! Great themes, great dialogues and show-stopping acting.
Give Dominique Jackson and MJ Rodriguez all the Emmys they deserve.
Nicole Kidman is so unbelievably good in this show.
you know what? i don't even expect much anymore. conveniently found roller skates that surprisingly fit you? sure why the hell not. enid having a never-ending stock of balloons? ofc. she's also besties with maggie because they talked out of the blue in the previous season and it has nothing to do with her needing to be connected to other characters once they separate her from carl? yep. gregory intended to sell out maggie and sasha, yet haven't told "trevor" what was in the closet when they were in his office? that's totally believable, i can see him saying "could be women, could be booze. i guess we'll find out!" oh and a bunch of zombies was killed while weird classical music was playing in the bg because the show-runners remembered this is a zombie show. coolio.
Iain De Caestecker deserves all the awards.
That was a lot of fun. I'm glad they gave Tara an episode. I've always been a fan.
The directing on this episode was really below average, typified by those bookend close up shots which were equal parts pretentious and atrocious. Also, the lack of sense of place, what the objectives were, why people were splitting/meeting up, bad fight scenes, Rick & Daryl wandering around the Saviors' main lair with almost no one there to stop them, and...actually just everything. Worst of all we're no further advanced than last week, ok, they've taken 1 (count 'em) one outpost.
In fact, this week's episode of Z Nation had a better sense of place, equal movement of the plot, and less confusing machinations than this one and the protagonists in that show spent the whole episode in weird teleporting boxes being zapped unconscious with sound by an unknown entity who was using them to clear out a zombie infested underground factory complex after being honey-potted by a driver-less ghost-truck.
So fun & such a solid performance from the cast! Hoping there is a season 2.
i love that all that talk about bringing complex female characters to the forefront of the entertainment industry was not empty. conceptually, sharp objects revolves around violence, but it is not imposed on women by men as in big little lies or by a female assassin without considering the gender of her victims as in killing eve. it is imposed on women by women. it is this unique portrayal of generational female violence, both narratively and cinematographically, that makes the show so captivating. amy adams and patricia clarkson are simply magnificent. i love every shot. it's such a pity that we have to wait an entire week for a new episode.
What a weird episode.
What a weird plan that apparently noone saw coming? How weird noone decided to just shoot Negan in the nogging? What a weird bunch of speeches and how weird people appeared to be riled up by something so lackluster? How weird that Negan thought bringing out that one guy from that one place would work? How weird some people all of a sudden don't seem to be so appetizing to a horde of zombies. How weird there was apparently only one side to this war? How weird to shoot at windows, to blow up just a courtyard? How weird all those cars could drive out of that area? Weird flashforwards or dreamsequences. Weird aging that only seems to affect Rick.
Weird that the writers of this dreck seem to keep getting away with all this contrived bullshit. There was almost no suspense, no ROAR moment... what a mess. I don't get how Fear the Walking Dead can be so drastically different and more realistic than this. I'm sure there will be good episodes this season but I'm getting a bit tired of the stupidity of the characters and events and the way these episodes play out. I'm so annoyed with this episode and I haven't even listed all it's flaws (including the unlogical nonsense I usually tend to ignore... You are holding an automatic rifle and all you can say is "what?" when your archnemesis tells you you're gonna shit your pants?" COME ON!!! At least let the magical priest lose his weapon on the way?)
Also weird "everyone" seems to love it btw.
Someone on the writing team needs to take a page out of Telltale's book by making a season as gripping and tense as the video game series. They can write a good episode for sure but too many stale episodes really made the whole season fall flat.