Booring feministic theme in this one.
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@enwyn I was expecting for this episode to reveal the Beefers on this website.
I've kept watching in anticipation for comic plot-lines, but this latest death ruins all hopes I have that this show will live up to what it once was. Fuck Scott Gimple. Fuck AMC. I'm out.
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@nintenuendo They're ruining this show, you should care.
IASIP has been pretty remarkable in that so many seasons have passed without any truly awful episodes. At last it loses that distinction, with this hideous nonsense. It was an episode with nothing to say, and made no effort to be anything other than the broadest of broad (no pun intended) with zero subtext, wit or humour.
I think this possibly marks the point where a world without any more Sunny would be preferable to one where this sort of crap can sully the reputation of a once great show.
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@tesbreag you really think this is the worst episode and that frank's brother, the gang cracks the liberty bell, and the cricket ep from last season aren't also awful?
I had really hoped this day would never come but I think it's finally time to say goodbye to this show. It had an amazing 12-year run with hardly a single episode that didn't make me laugh out loud.
But starting a season with three bottle episodes has just left this show with a depressing feeling. It's started to show that the cast members have grown up and the antics no longer feel as crazy. I'm hoping the rest of the season improves so I can remember this show as a 10/10 but after that I hope they throw in the towel and go find the next great thing for their careers.
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@n1ghtshade3 I respectfully disagree with what you've said. I think any show that has a run as long as IASIP has, reaching its 13th season now, is bound to go through some evolutionary stages i.e. change of tastes or change of circumstances of the creative team and cast members. I think that although the humour has not been perfectly the same as it was in season 1 episode 1, this season is still just as great with a humour that's adapted to the times. I wouldn't want to watch a show with the exact sense of comedy or talking about the same social issues 13 seasons through, with characters that do not have any concept of growth. Granted the characters have all undergone change, but it took Mac 12 seasons to fully come out as gay, and Charlie 13 seasons to (SPOILER), but I think that's a reasonable rate of progression for any show to take, not excluding IASIP. It's not a cartoon where the characters stay a kid since your grandfather's showing of the series.
That said, it's fair for you to say that the antics don't feel as crazy but I think the slight changes they've made is good. and does not make it any less great of a show that it is. That's just my take on it.
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@compound really should've popped that shirt off
this is the kind of episode I can see people hating, as it's pretty out of place - mainly in terms of the storytelling, but thematically and tonally it fits in beautifully. Netflix shows that release entire seasons at once tend to have a lack of standalone episodes that are really solid when taken out and viewed on their own, and ST isn't immune to that (it's hard to be when a show has to be bingeable, you need to keep people on the edge of their seats). I thought this episode, though, was amazing in itself, it's the kind of episode that could carry you through a week of waiting for the next ep, if this show aired normally. Really fantastic word building and characterisation that makes the story incredibly engaging
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@compound, thank you! This was not the worst episode at all, just different. The worst episode was in S1 in which the plot holes covered the entire of Hawkins.