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I agree shorter runtime was the right move. It was about as expected.

@stoned102 No Worries, I’m just not a blade expert. I have only ever seen the films, that was a while ago & I had memory loss. So I didn’t recall. Seem like a fair criticism based upon the information you shared. Thanks for the clarification.

@IronRinn I feel you the steaming wars are getting ridiculous with originals stuck behind their own paywall. At this point cable might be cheaper, the whole reason I left cable was streaming was cheaper. I enjoyed TLOU and I Loved the Halo video games, be hesitant to watch the show didn’t want them to mess up the games for me. If you saying it trumps TLOU I’m going to have to check it out.

@stoned102 I’m interested would you mind elaborating ?

@ironrinn I wouldn’t get my hopes up to high on that. There are so many video game adaptations and multiple adaptations of zombie video games Resident Evil movie franchise and recent TV adaptation, Silent Hill Movies, House Of The Dead movies, Alone In The Dark movies to name a few. Plenty on the horizon as well like another Silent Hill movie & Days Gone movie.

While you did not like The Last Of Us a lot of people did, it was wildly popular beating out HBO’s House Of The Dragon(Game Of Thrones) and even Netflix’s Wednesday. If anything the popularity of The Last Of Us will increase zombie video game adaptation.

Good news though we only have to watch the ones we choose to.

Thier actually pretty different. It might seem like they are similar based off trailers or on a surface level, but that’s not actually the case.

You duplicate posted this, thought you might like to know so you can delete one.

It’s actually a post apocalyptic; dramas, thriller. Sure it has horror and action elements but it’s mostly a drama. Thought you might like to know in case you wanted to reset your expectations and try it again. Either way good luck.

I’m confused it says you didn’t watch it ? Anyways it’s based on a video game with the same name’s story that came out in 2013. So you shouldn’t rule it out as covid propaganda your should give it another chance and keep that in mind.

I’d say politics. Everything has to be political, like we’re not getting enough of that as it is.

@Atlantis14 yeah pretty villain cliche, all your points are fair. I don’t think it was the best episode of the series but I also didn’t think it was bad. To each their own

@6Eyes not disagreeing with you but to be fair most of the cult, didn’t know they were cannibals.

@giacalabrese I think most zombie movies/shows are really more about the human element, I’ll give you that there haven’t been many infected so far.

Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, it just confuses me that with a long journey people would think they wouldn’t run into obstacles especially in a post apocalyptic dystopian world. Makes me wonder why Peter Jackson spent 11+ hours on 3 films to tell the lord of the rings(we’re not going to talk about the hobbit)when he could have much more easily spent 30-45 minutes having Frodo walk to mount doom throw in a ring and go home.

@Atlantis14 not saying your wrong about anything. But I have perceived some of this differently so I’m going to share/discuss my thoughts.

Ellie discovering the ear didn’t seem as far fetched to me as I was assuming it was left by mistake , being as they are cannibalizing I would assume they wouldn’t allow anyone in the kitchen that didn’t know, that everyone in the kitchen knew because of that they wouldn’t have been overly concerned about cleaning. In most commercial kitchens sometimes things get missed. To me it seems likely that if anything was going to get left behind it would be a ear or maybe a nose as it’s unlikely they would eat the cartilage. I thought about the jail at first, then I theorized that they may be cannibalizing more than the dead and would need somewhere to detain them.

I agree for most people hurting someone while in prisoned it would be stupid rather than waiting for a a more tactical moment to attack. But I think form what we seen Ellie has a problem controlling her anger, I think this is also displayed by what I thought was clearly overkill of David.

I agree, that storing the bodies in the community would be dumb, but the way Joel found them, the way David didn’t seem concerned about the building being on fire and only in Ellie escaping seemed as though he was not very concerned about drawing attention as much as what she’d do if she got out and then when Ellie did escaped Joel was right there and there were no towns people around and they did not seemed to be in a rush to leave. I’m thinking the “deer” shed Joel discovered the corpses at, the the kitchen might have been a slaughterhouse and both might have been off property.

Not sure what you mean as to the way Ellie treated people the first time she saw them, but if your referring her pulling a gun on them. I think with what we have seen them go through seems understandable, especially now that she’s alone.

That’s just my perception and depending on the combination of things I am wrong about, if I am wrong. I’d agree it’d be ridiculous, maybe I am just trying to over rationalize it. Either way that’s just my opinion. I did find you take interesting as well.

@technigeneric it was no trouble to do so, It’s far from a doctoral thesis. lol This is the digital age with devices at our finger tips, I was most likely multitasking on the web already, or playing on my phone while watching tv, heck I could have been taking a dump.

Are you saying you want the story to be the same as the game ? If so, I feel like it would be point less to watch it then.

I think video game’s structure is different than a televisions show’s structure. As in video games they are structured to give the player something to do while telling a story.

I feel television shows are just focused on the story. If they just focused on the story from the game it’d likely be a mini series as the story would be much shorter, unless they included all the infected encounters and I feel like that’d get repetitive and old real quick. I feel it’d still unlikely they would have enough to create a series out of.

Being as it’s a series they are also going to run out elements from the original story eventually anyways. I’d rather they sprinkle in new stuff in now so they can stretch out the elements from the original story long enough to build the world and characters so that they can survive outside of the confines of the original story.

I can see your points about episode 3. Especially when looking at it from a video game lens, it could have easily be a side quest/story or optional DLC. I had issues with episode 3 as well. Not because of the content but because Joel just lost Tess and now he lost two friend’s. I feel for him and the viewer it made all of their death less meaningful and impactful.

I wish they could have put it later in the season, but I guess since they were looking for a battery and they had one it had to go there.

I did point out they have watched other shows with gay themes, I was not trying to call them a bigot. I’m sorry if you, they or anyone else took it that way. I was trying to convey that I’m confused as to why they would write off a show for having those “woke” themes now when they hadn’t then.

They also said it had very poor history which is I do believe is a valid opinion with more substance. I was trying to share my opposing opinion. Being as it was a flash back episode I feel it’s all history ?

I absolutely agree not all those points are integral to the story. I feel that doesn’t mean they aren’t without value. For example Ellie getting bite, we already knew she was bitten. I and I think other people enjoyed seeing it, the circumstances surrounding it.

Riley getting bite is also likely Ellie’s first experience with loss, which I think totally plays into Ellie and Joel’s story. While not the original basis for their relationship it has since morphed into them connecting over loss. Joel the lost of his daughter and Ellie the loss of what was likely the only person she ever care about and may have even considered family

I fully agree that bad storytelling is bad storytelling, gay or not, I also feel it’s a matter of opinion whether it’s bad storytelling or not.

I didn’t consider looking at a users profile as stalking since all that information is public and it wouldn’t have bother me. I feel I have nothing to hide if someone wanted to look at my profile to try to understand my opinion. I understand your point though, trakt should make settings for those that don’t want to share that information with others.

I was trying to ask for clarification on what the difference is. I was not trying to call someone a hypocrite. I apologize if it came off that way. I never viewed this as an argument but rather a discussion. While some of it was aggressive I didn’t feel I was attacking them personally and I apologize if you, they or anyone feels that was the case.

Some of what I said was aggressive and I own that and apologize for that. I got annoyed at the “woke” comment. And that it seems everything has to be made political.

While I do think things could be “woke” I feel it’s so overused and on ridiculously unimportant things, that it has be come meaningless and a parody of itself now. Being used to just label anything someone disagrees with as “woke”. I am not of either political party I agree and disagree with things on both sides so I get irritated by everything needing to being political. That maybe my perception and was so in this case and may have been unfair, I apologize.

Some of what might have been perceived aggression was actually perplexion and it’s fair you came to that conclusion. Being there was some aggression it could all be perceived as aggression. Some of my word choices could have been better. That’s also on me and I apologize for that as well. It doesn’t help that text lacks tone and inflection.

So while I agree some of your assertions are fair I also think some may be misconceptions. Thank you for pointing it out and how it came of so I can do a better job in the future of not letting things irritate me and paying better attention to how I am coming off, as I have tried in this case, using I think, I feel, I’d rather, ect.

Thank for your opinions and taking the time to read mine.

@Elicx Yes, we knew she had been bite that is a call back. You get to see her get bitten and how. Plus
1. We get to see Ellie’s training to be a fedra officer in the fedra military school call back to ep 1 when Marlene said she put her there.
2. We meet Riley callback to ep 1 when Ellie calls Marlene a terrorist and Marlene asks if Riley was a terrorist.
3. We learn where Ellie got her book of puns call back to ep 4(I think)where she’s been sharing it with Joel and now we know why it’s important enough for her to keep.
4. We learn more about Ellie’s lack of family (mentioned episode 1).
5. We see her fight and kill her first infected with a pocket knife callback to when she also try to attack Joel much the same way in ep 1.
6. We see Ellie think she’s going to die. Call back to ep 1 when her and Marlene discuss weather she’s going to turn.
7. We see that Riley got bitten as well which is likely her first experience with loss (the one she is relating to with Joel over the loss of his daughter Sarah in episode 6)

Those don’t include the character development or world building.

Just to make sure we are on the same page we are talking about ep 7 right ?

@iophobia I think your post is spot on especially that the LGBT elements in this case are not forced and should not be labeled woke.

Tess, Joel, Mr. Adler, Mrs. Adler, Marlon, Florence, Tommy, Maria were all straight not to mention nameless faceless characters we have seen along the way. I mean children don’t appear out of no where.

@Elicx what about all the callbacks expanding information for things that happened in previous episodes.

@ONDRA5 there were a lot of callbacks expanding information about things that happened in prior episodes.

@mattcoady I thought the same thing and then for her to smash them so easily later.