Sean Jane

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Fantastic Four

Getting an invitation for a Marvel early screening was meant to be something great in the past. Sadly, I've just got it for this stinker of a movie, and lost two hours of my life. I'm a fan of Josh Trank's Chronicle, so I kept my hopes high, but not much so, as he's a competent filmmaker but more in tone with an indie vibe rather than a blockbuster, in my opinion. I'm so disappointed regarding this movie that I can resume the entire plot in the following few lines: a couple of kids (one a mild-mannered-mad-scientist-in-the-making and an honest-to-God-sports-jock) try for nearly a decade to create a functioning prototype of a phase-quantum-dimensional-shifting device (a teleportation machine, for the layman), getting the attention of a gifted scientist (who happens to have a politically correct bi-racial family) from a government-funded think-tank. Together, they spend HALF (yes, half) the movie trying to make the prototype of the device (now named "Quantum Gate") fully functional and open a portal to Planet Zero (a desolate generic CGI dimension that co-exist with ours), with the unwilling aid of Victor, a hacker-wiz kid who happens to be sadly in love with the only female character in the film, who in turn has a crush for Reed (as you might expect, Reed is utterly oblivious to her most of the film). The whole ordeal feels detached, procedural and boring, but has the very brief quality of portraying them as humans, with flaws. Anyway, as expected (because bad things do happen when you rush experiments), their visit to Planet Zero goes awry when Victor tries (as any scientist might) take a sample. The portal collapses, and Victor is left behind. I must dearly advise to you: it follows one of the most disturbing, un-glamours and painful transformation scenes I've ever seen in a Marvel movie. Their DNA is changed and they have odd molecular-phasing side-effects that can be characterised as "super powers". A great deal of the rest of the film is spent trying to - ironically - reverse the molecular-phasing disease, and we get to see a few neat scenes, while one of them is remorseful and contrite (hiding in South America) and the others begin to use their abilities to become military assets. This goes for a while until out of the blue, Victor (quite understandably bitter with them) decides to destroy our Earth using the Planet Zero portal. He's so good at it that he gets to almost destroy Earth without any complicated laboratory or technology. Then it comes the 10 minute studio-mandated battle where the characters become reluctant heroes (honestly, Reed a melee expert?) and obviously defeat Victor, who "disintegrates" (I don't believe that at all) while the portal finally collapses. After those 10 minutes of low quality CGI extravaganza, they get fully funded by the US Military, and decide to use their side-effects to protect humankind, while searching a cure for their disease (unlike the X-Men and most Marvel characters, the FF have always been in good terms with the US Government and NY authorities). In the end, I was baffled that there was not a single ounce of wonder or enjoyment from their part in their abilities, and that the characters feel underdeveloped, to the point of being hollow jokes compared to their comic book counterparts (especially the latest incarnation). With the exception of Michael B. Jordan and Red E. Cathey, the rest of the cast is AWFUL, their dialogues becoming wholly interchangeable. Really. Write down snippets from the dialogue, and any of the characters can deliver those lines. It's that bad. I'm sure I'll never watch this movie again, and I do hope the sequel never gets made. By the way: this movie isn't part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe for a good reason.

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Incredibly odd, I would expect something like that from an anniversary edition. The concept could be good but was just poorly executed. It was almost like they forgot what movie they were making and yes I agree it would have been more suited to a tv show, though still wouldn't be anywhere close to Agents of Shield, unfortunately I still have to watch Agent Carter and Jessica Jones (I think that's the name).

I rarely purchase a Blu-Ray or DVD if its lightweight, it has to be a favourite movie for me to do that. I certainly won't be purchasing this (even if they produced a Lord of Rings style Extended Edition)

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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
7

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BlockedParentSpoilers2016-03-26T10:44:49Z

Too long, often boring, dark atmosphere and more like an psycho-drama-thriller than adventure-action-sci-fi movie. I expected more and was a little bit disappointed from this movie. I was really sure to give it 10 points score but I can't give it more than 7 and that's only for the final battle and Wonder Woman, otherwise it would be 6. There are two B v S scenes and that's really not much for the movie called Batman v Superman.

And the end with 10 mins funeral...well...another cliché we saw too many times. We know he cannot die because of another movies and series and yet we have to watch 10 minutes funeral...why?
And what about Lex and Crypton ship? The most-advanced tech inside the ship and you can access the system with the Zod skin on your fingers? No other bio-metrics check? With all that technology? WTF?

I believe we fans deserve more than this.

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Maybe you could clarify something for me about the movie.

Why didn't they just put Superman's body in the spaceship like Lex did with General Zod, from my understanding, so correct me if im wrong here, Zod's metamorphosis was down to the introduction of Lex's blood.

From memory the ship was not that badly destroyed, further more is the TV show Gotham part of the lineage of this DC Universe? if so then they messed up badly by not sticking with the characters from the show.

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I'm not sure if I understand you and I'm also not sure if I remember it right bacause I watch many movies and series so my memory is limited :) but If I'm not wrong, the monster had nothing in common with Zod. Lex used Zod only for his fingerprints to access the ship and the monster was made by the ship itself from the archives. So put Superman inside would have no effect I suppose. Besides only Lex knew it's possible. But maybe I'm wrong...

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Lex brought the body of Zod to the ship and submerged it in the liquid within the ship where it was analysed and identified as General Zod.

Lex then slit his hand and let the blood drip onto zod which caused the ship to be unable to identify Zod and began the chrysalis and thus turning him into the end monster.

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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
7

Shout by hlava
BlockedParentSpoilers2016-03-26T10:44:49Z

Too long, often boring, dark atmosphere and more like an psycho-drama-thriller than adventure-action-sci-fi movie. I expected more and was a little bit disappointed from this movie. I was really sure to give it 10 points score but I can't give it more than 7 and that's only for the final battle and Wonder Woman, otherwise it would be 6. There are two B v S scenes and that's really not much for the movie called Batman v Superman.

And the end with 10 mins funeral...well...another cliché we saw too many times. We know he cannot die because of another movies and series and yet we have to watch 10 minutes funeral...why?
And what about Lex and Crypton ship? The most-advanced tech inside the ship and you can access the system with the Zod skin on your fingers? No other bio-metrics check? With all that technology? WTF?

I believe we fans deserve more than this.

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Maybe you could clarify something for me about the movie.

Why didn't they just put Superman's body in the spaceship like Lex did with General Zod, from my understanding, so correct me if im wrong here, Zod's metamorphosis was down to the introduction of Lex's blood.

From memory the ship was not that badly destroyed, further more is the TV show Gotham part of the lineage of this DC Universe? if so then they messed up badly by not sticking with the characters from the show.

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Fantastic Four
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Reply by Sean Jane
BlockedParentSpoilers2015-12-05T19:54:09Z

Getting an invitation for a Marvel early screening was meant to be something great in the past. Sadly, I've just got it for this stinker of a movie, and lost two hours of my life. I'm a fan of Josh Trank's Chronicle, so I kept my hopes high, but not much so, as he's a competent filmmaker but more in tone with an indie vibe rather than a blockbuster, in my opinion. I'm so disappointed regarding this movie that I can resume the entire plot in the following few lines: a couple of kids (one a mild-mannered-mad-scientist-in-the-making and an honest-to-God-sports-jock) try for nearly a decade to create a functioning prototype of a phase-quantum-dimensional-shifting device (a teleportation machine, for the layman), getting the attention of a gifted scientist (who happens to have a politically correct bi-racial family) from a government-funded think-tank. Together, they spend HALF (yes, half) the movie trying to make the prototype of the device (now named "Quantum Gate") fully functional and open a portal to Planet Zero (a desolate generic CGI dimension that co-exist with ours), with the unwilling aid of Victor, a hacker-wiz kid who happens to be sadly in love with the only female character in the film, who in turn has a crush for Reed (as you might expect, Reed is utterly oblivious to her most of the film). The whole ordeal feels detached, procedural and boring, but has the very brief quality of portraying them as humans, with flaws. Anyway, as expected (because bad things do happen when you rush experiments), their visit to Planet Zero goes awry when Victor tries (as any scientist might) take a sample. The portal collapses, and Victor is left behind. I must dearly advise to you: it follows one of the most disturbing, un-glamours and painful transformation scenes I've ever seen in a Marvel movie. Their DNA is changed and they have odd molecular-phasing side-effects that can be characterised as "super powers". A great deal of the rest of the film is spent trying to - ironically - reverse the molecular-phasing disease, and we get to see a few neat scenes, while one of them is remorseful and contrite (hiding in South America) and the others begin to use their abilities to become military assets. This goes for a while until out of the blue, Victor (quite understandably bitter with them) decides to destroy our Earth using the Planet Zero portal. He's so good at it that he gets to almost destroy Earth without any complicated laboratory or technology. Then it comes the 10 minute studio-mandated battle where the characters become reluctant heroes (honestly, Reed a melee expert?) and obviously defeat Victor, who "disintegrates" (I don't believe that at all) while the portal finally collapses. After those 10 minutes of low quality CGI extravaganza, they get fully funded by the US Military, and decide to use their side-effects to protect humankind, while searching a cure for their disease (unlike the X-Men and most Marvel characters, the FF have always been in good terms with the US Government and NY authorities). In the end, I was baffled that there was not a single ounce of wonder or enjoyment from their part in their abilities, and that the characters feel underdeveloped, to the point of being hollow jokes compared to their comic book counterparts (especially the latest incarnation). With the exception of Michael B. Jordan and Red E. Cathey, the rest of the cast is AWFUL, their dialogues becoming wholly interchangeable. Really. Write down snippets from the dialogue, and any of the characters can deliver those lines. It's that bad. I'm sure I'll never watch this movie again, and I do hope the sequel never gets made. By the way: this movie isn't part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe for a good reason.

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The alterations too were poorly scripted, I was sat watching Ben seemingly accept his fate without any self pity or anger towards his okish comrades (ie they have retained their human forms). His only anger is for Reed leaving the facility.

Storm has a 5 second fit of being on fire then again yeah it's all good. Has a suit that helps control his fireball transformation (why hasn't Ben got a suit that can control his ability???)

You don't feel any connection to these characters and don't care for their plight. As for Victor Von Doom. No real reasoning behind why he wants to destroy earth. Doom is seriously under utilised in this film, the teacher from the beginning of the film gained more animosity than Doom could muster.

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