:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: - James Cameron once again proved his films are spectacular masterpieces. Absolutely amazing.
My rating system works:
10:heart:- Masterpiece :100:
9:heart:- Excellent
8:heart: - Amazing :ok_hand:
7:heart:- Great :sun_with_face:
6:heart: - Good :thumbsup:
5:heart: - Average :head_bandage:
4:heart: - Bad but watchable :octagonal_sign:
3:heart: - Bad :sob:
2:rage:- Awful :face_vomiting:
1:face_with_symbols_over_mouth: - Bull Shit
The visual effects as expected electrify. Amazing creatures, being able to communicate with them, the gorgeous "scenery" made up for the Pandora planet do not disappoint.
But it's ridiculously long. At the halfway point, they finally get back into the original part of the story to go exactly how you expect.
The main issue I had with it is its clear it's making veiled statements about how we have treated indigenous people around the world, and mortifying is the idea that we might not have learned before we get that far out in space not to be the hateful, simple minded, resource hogs we've been for the last 600 years that we want to steal land, harvest another ocean to extinction, etc etc etc.
I was hoping for less obvious messaging, more hope for what we could be rather than suggesting we are incapable of growth and being better as a species.
Scenery 10, most of the superficial scenes between the kids 8 to 9, the main storyline when they finally got to it way too cliche and predictable 6, the over preachy plug ins throughout 2 (just way way too much of it) so overall 6. Good enough to watch once but not good enough to sit through the entire 3 hours without a pause button.
Rated a Connor 10, normal 7.5
So, Pandora's once again invaded by humans, including a avatar-ized Quaritch who's hunting for Jake and his family.
Of course, the visuals are stunning... but the movie drags on quite a bit because the story feels recycled and thin, the "everything's connected"-angle very heavy-handed (I'm just saying space whale hunts)... and the family drama predictable. Not sure Avatar needed this sequel (or any that are yet to come).
Basically a water themed version of the first movie, just dragged out for extra an extra 30 minutes. I think the wow effects of the graphics and CGI had largely been worn out with the first movie so there's actually very little left for this one, the fact that it still has the same paper-thin story line, coupled with the excessive run time (should have been 2 hours make), makes this a watchable but not particularly memorable offering IMHO. There's only so much you can achieve with an endless sea of colour! Just lucky I didn't see it at the cinema.
How in the holy fuck does Zoë Saldaña not have multiple best actress wins for Neytiri in this film?!
Disney, Feige, Iger, Gunn, and all of the MCU 'creatives' and executives should bow their heads into mud in shame for their pathetic garbage attempts at spectacle films next to any single thirty second clip of this film. Cameron and Co. are making an absolute mockery of every other film utilizing and relying on CGI for its thrills, doubly so for ones that also try to play on your emotions. Disney uses dull, ugly, indirect gray lighting to cover up their low-bid "get it done next week for cheap or you're going bankrupt" CGI contract work, making for ugly, fake, generic, and samey visuals. Avatar, on the other hand, is lush, vibrant, and groundbreaking in every single scene, shot, and frame.
I can't review this, because I just watched three hours of a film that can't be compared to any other film but its preceding entry, and all I want to do now is hunt down whalers and executives from Disney and mining and livestock companies.
That frame rate got me waiting to pick up the controller and start playing
What an amazing film! I'd like to echo one of the comments I read on Letterboxd – the story is solid, following a typical linear film structure. However, what truly stands out is the seamless editing, CGI, and the overall craftsmanship of the entire movie. It's a cinematic masterpiece.
This film also showcases how technology is pushing the boundaries of the film industry. Every aspect is visually stunning, blurring the lines between reality and CGI to the point where it's hard to distinguish what's real and what's edited.
Looking ahead, if they decide to create another Avatar film, I hope they can enhance the plot a bit. This one felt somewhat similar to the first movie, with mostly changes in characters and settings.
视觉效果真棒, watched at 2023-08-02, imported from douban
The plot is repetitive, very predictable and just bad. Cameron should have stopped to the first one. Also the CGI kinda look outdated sometimes to nowadays standards… not worth 3 hours.
Beautiful scenes, but a story that’s much more of the same. Then it becomes dull with over 3 hours.
tbh I genuinely thought it was about Sky people coming back for water because nothing remains of earth but welp this was good too
loved it:sob::sob::sob:
sully stick together! Also Jake's wive is a bitch, ngl
Sunday film. Worse than the first one.
Way better than the original
Avatar 2 or Avatar: The Way of the Water came out on 4K Blu-ray a couple of weeks ago so me and the kids finally got around to watch it last weekend. I rarely go to the cinemas nowadays. It’s just too much hassle and way to expensive for four people. But there’s also no way I watch a big movie like Avatar on streaming with their over-compressed images and mediocre sound. Yeah, yeah, I know they claim Dolby Atmos and all that but they use almost one tenth the bit-rate for the video compared to 4K Blu-ray and push the Atmos over a lossy Dolby Digital stream.
Anyway, enough rambling. Avatar: The Way of the Water was better than I feared it would be. I was really worried that it would turn out to be a preachy woke turd. Especially with some of the comments Cameron has made lately.
Sure, it was pretty much a repeat of the first one with the companies bad, humans bad an all that kind of story but at least that was about it. There was not really any of the usual preaching, finger pointing and general woke force feeding that has been way too common from Hollywood lately.
The main enjoyment of this movie is really the imagery, the scenery, the fantastic creatures and all that. It is a visually very beautiful movie.
The second part of the enjoyment comes from some quite enjoyable action sequences, especially towards the end of the movie.
The story is not much to write home about though. It is pretty standard, unimaginative story fairly full of the usual Hollywood lazy-ass unplausible shit. The idea that humanity in the future would go to another planet and start to hunt down the wildlife, behave like some conquistadors and literally strip the planet is fairly ludicrous from the start of course.
The story is not so much about the main characters, or at least what I expected to be the main characters, but more about the kids. I was expecting it to be about the Na’vi kicking the invaders’ asses…again, but unfortunately the movie takes a different track rather early on.
After that it is more of a coming of age story about their kids who, also unfortunately, behaves like the usual Hollywood teenagers in not listening to their parents and generally behaving recklessly. This part of the movie would have been really, really, boring if it was not for the beautiful scenery.
Then there was this idea of an intelligent species, supposedly more intelligent than humans, being not only pacifists but refuses to defend themselves in any way while literally being exterminated. That kind of stupid shit only exists in the mind of a Hollywood writer. They also conveniently looked like whales so the script writer could push some bad-humans-catching-whales stereotypes.
And why did they have to drag back the main the main asshole from the first movie? It just felt lazy and did not add to my enjoyment of the movie.
Still, the bottom line is that I did enjoy the movie, even though it was over three hours long which felt a little bit dragged out. It is in no way this super blockbuster that some people seem to think though. At least not as far as I am concerned.
The first one was quite good, but this is a very long movie for a plot that is just generic American action man, with blue people.
The adventures of a traitor to his tribe and his family at a water theme park.
Gave up before they even got to the water. For that much time investment, we were better off playing FFXVI. The story and characters are much better.
I feel like I need to watch this again to really catch everything, partly because my daughter was distracting me, but also because there was A LOT going on. The animation and creativity of the scenery was amazing. I don’t love all the violence, but I understand that it is an important part of the plot. Not sure I want to see 3 more of these incredibly long movies, but I’ll watch at least one more.
4/10. Mostly annoying. 1.:1 human human culture and other uninspired themes. waste of time.
Gorgeous movie, but writing and story wise it is kinda week, and not really worth the long wait.
Jake Sully looks like Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Lol
Amazing visuals
Good action adventure
Good world building
Likable story
Characters 8
Story 6.5
Pacing 7
Visuals 10
Rewatchability Factor 7
Enjoyment or Emotional Value 8
Average Score 7.75
This movie is certainly pushing the boundaries of modern CGI. Visually it's incredible. But the story was really bland and the movie was unnecessarily long. I had to watch it pieces, there's no way I could sit through this 3 hour snooze fest in one sitting.
No history, boring to death.
stunning all the way
10/10
"I know one thing: wherever we go, this family... is our fortress."
I remember when the first Avatar came out, it was a memorable experience to see it. It was Christmas Eve, with a rare fall of snow and rush hour traffic through the Christmas holidays in the town. So, the first movie has a special place in my heart, despite its flaws. I never understood the hate the first movie received over the years. It is one thing to have an opinion, but what I find odd is every criticism people had for that film can apply to any other movie, yet Avatar somehow got it the worst. Due to it being popular, maybe?
Anywhere, I was ten years when it came out, and now (as I am writing this) I am 23 years old. During that time, I finished Primary school, High school, college, and University and survived a global pandemic. So, it has been a while, and a lot has happened. This review is as late as the sequel, so it seems fitting.
But how was it? I thought it was solid.
Jim Cameron did it again!
It is a long movie, clocking in at 3-hour-and-12-minutes, and while watching, I did feel the runtime a bit, but with a man like Jim Cameron behind the camera, he guides you through the scenes visually, with a flow in pacing, coming from a veteran of his craft.
A character like Jake Sully has more to him compared to the first, with him having to raise a family and keeping his children in check. He uses his past military experience to its benefit by ordering his kids around and showing them tough love. Sam Worthington was good in this, and it helped that he has got something to work with, in terms of his character and emotional drive.
Zoe Saldana is fantastic as always, even though she cries a lot in the movie.
Stephen Lang is back as the villain (they explain how), and his character is a massive improvement here. Instead of being a generic evil military who is hard as nails; however, for the sequel, they take an interesting approach to the character where the actor has more to work with, like Worthington.
On the other hand, the visual effects and the 3D are standouts here. Some of the best CGI ever? The water looked so realistic it puts other water effects to shame, looking at you Aquaman and The Little Mermaid remake. The world-building was compelling, and the camera work was off the charts. I don’t like 3D for movies, but here it is phenomenal, especially in the underwater scenes.
Although, it does take a while to get going, as I struggled to connect with it at the start. The score was not as impactful or epic since James Horner (RIP) didn’t compose the score. Some of the writing was not great, especially one scene involving bullies that was so bad. Not all the emotional scenes worked for me, and it did feel manipulative.
Even with those problems that I had with the movie, I understand why this movie did so well at the box office, not because of its ground-breaking story-line or characters; no, because it follows a basic theme about family, and the movie is the perfect escapism to another world that audiences have been waiting for. It’s a movie that promises you an experience, a spectacle you cannot miss! It was easy enough to connect with audiences and make them revisit this world.
I am more interested in Avatar 3 now than I was before.
Never bet against Cameron boys.
A super boring rehash of the fiesta movie
I really don’t understand the hype of these movies. After 1 hour i already lost focus. Not really that great but it’s all personal preference
Great MOVIE!!! Loved it already waiting on the next one…
I will rate this movie Water(A lot of it)/10
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What an incredible movie. Sadly i did not get to see it in 3D. It is an absolutely stunning movie to see - just beautiful imagery.
It's sad to see how single-minded and revenge driven Colonel Quaritch is. On the other-hand - Cameron got a 2nd chance at filming a Titanic-like sinking of a ship (lol).
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
The first half was entertaining, but the second half was outrageously boring at times... no where near as good as the original.
I have not watched the first film in this franchise as it just didn't appeal to me. However I went to go and see this because a good friend practically dragged me to the cinema but I must say that I am overwhelmingly surprised at how much I enjoyed this. It held beautiful cinematography and told a great story of love and the strength of family. Like all films of this length I do believe that not everything was necessary here and the film could have been shorter but I still really enjoyed this.
Near to the first film (10) "only" 8 for this movie. Full of history of Pandora, love, action, and left the door open to the next Avatar film. My favorite with Elvis to the Oscar.
I thought it was decent and obviously visually excellent but I have 4 issues (stared as two but grew as i was thinking about it more):
- I thought the villains were overly cartoonish. I don’t remember if it was that bad in the first time of the movie but I found my self annoyed pretty much every time the soldiers were on screen. Not only were their depictions cheesy (every time that one soldier popped the bubble gum I was legitimately angry) but I feel like their story didn’t serve it’s purpose. Cameron’s goal of these movies is to use his talents to take on issues of conservation an climate change for a popular culture direction which is all well and good but is this movie effective in that? The antagonist isn’t the systematic environmental destruction. It could have been. The humans are tearing down the forests of Pandora and and harvesting the whales which in its own could be the source of the conflict with Jake as the protagonist. Instead they bring back the villain from the first movie and makes the drive myopically centered on his revenge against Jake (then worst of all let’s him live to return in the sequel when the other who were just part of expeditions for medicine get shot burned and drowned). This issue with climate change and the stripping of natural resources isn’t one guy on a vendetta over decade, it’s about capitalistic systems of complicity and collective preferences for profit and comfort. Sure there there’s your oil execs that support expansive drilling and reduced regulation and there’s politicians and members of the military that facilitate it but the issue isn’t that those individuals get reincarnated and are focused on killing the people who killed them, it’s the fact that new people see the wealth the last guy accumulated and want to get the same. If they were going to focus on the military chasing after Jake to kill would have preferred if they’d put more focus on the new general and the whale profiteer seeking out Jake not because they don’t like him but they see him as a legitimate strategic threat to their operations as the leader of the resistance operation. You can have the same movie with out the silliness of fake Navi caricatures. You are also able to make it so the antagonist isn’t just a straight up asshole and has a glimmer of humanity overshadowed by self centeredness. After all, the allegory is supposed to be the planet is the protagonist and those destroying it are the antagonist but in real life it isn’t mustache twirling villains happy to kill everything it’s real people in positions of power (and even ordinary people with little power but who perpetuate the systems) who are just willing to look the other way when it comes to consequences. Perhaps I’m looking at it wrong and it will become clear when the whole series is done. I’m inclined to map this movie closer to the present day: the military is representing of the American and other western aggressors wars in the Middle East for oil. When you do that though it kind of makes Jake Sully a stand in for Bin Laden or other leader who the military is putting on display and retaliating against for terrorism. I suppose instead the concept is that the first movie is 16/17th century starts of western colonization; this one is more 17/18th beginnings of native genocide and plantation systems; three might introduce “enlightenment” from the invaders at the same time destructive practices continue along with slavery; four would then be full industrialization on stolen land; and five brings us to the modern day. Perhaps that will be the case and more clearly so by the end but with the movies so far apart and hard to even remember it just didn’t track for me in this one.
- The premise that the humans are just flat out committing genocide is bonkers to me. It’s often a question I have about future earth scenarios where humans are invaders. I get that it’s allegory (see essay above) but it doesn’t make sense to me that after centuries of regret for a deep history of disruption of native cultures and the planet’s ecosystem the powers that be would just be cool with doing it on another planet. The fact that this movie exists among many which are part of a progression toward moral and ethical improve the when it comes to human and natural rights. The implication that somehow that has regressed on the Earth of Avatar or never happened in the first place (essentially in Avatar cannon was there never an Avatar equivalent, there was but people in charge actively ignored it, or there was but people forgot it). I suppose it’s the same as the necessity of some zombie media to not have zombies to make sense.
- The timeline was confusing. After the one year time jump to the villain’s arrival the passage of time for the bad guys and the good guys doesn’t seem to line up. On the whole it felt like Spider was with his “dad” for the same time that the Sullys were with the ocean tribe but when they cut between the two it felt like time was passing at disconnected and inconsistent rates. There’s been a couple things recently if felt this editing issue but it particularly stuck out to me in this.
- Love Jermaine Clement, he was terribly cast in this. Because the actors I’m most familiar with are Navi it make it really easy to ignore the fact that you recognize them (I’m not entirely sure if I would have realized Sigorney Weaver was playing her own daughter if I hadn’t heard about it before seeing the movie) but Jermaine was the only non-cgi actor I recognized so he stuck out like a sore thumb. To make matters worse they inexplicably had him doing an American accent. The captain of his ship wasn’t American (I think it was Australian) so why didn’t Jermaine just use his Kiwi accent?! It made recognizing him even more distracting because during the first few scenes he was in I was trying to figure out if it was him out I was crazy.
I'm just a sucker for a visual spectacle no matter how boring the story might be. Just close your brain and travel to a different world.
Visually stunning! I haven't seen a movie that looks as amazing as this one since probably the first Avatar. Please, go and watch it, 3 hours worth spending. And if you have the possibility, IMAX 3D is a must.
Maybe it's not a revolution like the first part, but Cameron knows how to made a show. The only note I have, sometimes it seemed that it was ripping off Emmerich's "Patriot", only a Gibson is a little blue. ;)
Is it good? Yes. Is is visually stunning? ABSOLUTELY. But is it a bit too long? Maybe. But just like the first installment, is an experience worth watching in the biggest screen possible. Saw it in 3D at 48 HFR and it was a breathtaking viewing experience.
The movie is good but the visual aspect of it (specially in IMAX 3D) makes it a great movie to see in the cinemas. The immersion you get from this technology is something very very special.
One of the best movies 2022!
Good movie! There isn't as much human acting to judge here, but there's a lot more plot to enjoy, as the focus of the world this time around is the various animals, which not only allows for the worldbuilding to not feel like a somewhat sluggish and tedious screensaver that clashes against the main plot, but rather serves as a catalyst for character dynamics and gives them opportunities to demonstrate their differences from each other, meaning that we not only get far better characters, but some nice development of some of the characters we've seen before.
Still, the plot provides some agonizingly either boring or cringeworthy moments that, while they don't necessarily steal the show, they do take away from the flawlessness and prestige the film would otherwise have.
K
Just seen this in 3D at the cinema, it’s such a great sequel, beautifully made and even though it’s a long film, it keeps you entertained throughout :thumbsup:
Is it pretty to look at? Yes. Saw it in 3D and it was beautiful. That's the only positive thing about this movie. Felt like the movie was basically a 3 hour anti-whaling campaign shot as a video game cinematic.
Why was this so sad lol ….but it had some satisfying moments
I was a little less bored than I was with the first. Looking great? Sure. Still a boring movie. Like all of the marvel crap. Looks aren't everything, neither in movies, shows or games.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’:
The original Avatar was fun to watch, but it never really surpassed much more than that. I wouldn’t have been heartbroken if I never saw Pandora again. This sequel changed everything. It gave us so much more. More story. More characters we care about. Bigger stakes. Solid world-building. I’m officially invested in this journey.
Kiri is such a heartwarming character. And I love that Sigourney Weaver is still a part of all this. And her origin still remains a mystery. I’m intrigued.
I love an angry, badass Neytiri. The whole family dynamic angle is very refreshing and compelling.
Bonus Thought: I still need to learn so many names.
Super good! Fantastic on 3D Ultra laser. Great story, tear jerker. 9.5/10.
I watched it on IMAX for the sake of its gorgeous visuals and it was just that, gorgeous visuals but nothing more. A lot worse than the first one. I cannot fathom how someone can come up with these ridiculous scripts and just go with it. I thought that high ratings from every possible media outlet would mean that it is a good movie but ooooh man, this is just absurd. I won't, not ever again, trust anything online, it's all biased.
I've rewatched Avatar 2009 before watching 2 and even though the first movie has nothing original regarding its script, they had time to build a world that we were interested in but they butchered what they had built with the lazy writing in the second movie. WHY WOULD YOU RESURRECT EVERY BAD GUY FROM THE PREQUEL AND SEND THEM TO GET AVENGE? Oh my god, I was so angry after seeing that scene, such a a dumb and lazy way to base your sequel, such a cheap move. I guess they though hey, let's bump up the visuals and put some bad guy in front who gets revenge from an innocent family so audience can get emotional and ignore this ridiculous script that no one has ever put an effort into. You can predict every scene because it is so obvious that I started to think that their target audience was teenagers, and it probably is.
Also, can someone explain to me why every one from that water tribe or whatever they are called just vanished at their last battle and left Sully family to fend for each other? There were hundreds of them fighting against sky people and they just vanished. At first I thought they all died but guess what, no other main character died at that battle scene, so I guess they were like, hell it's not our business, let's go back and get some rest while Jake fights for his family alone.
If I remove every script related scene from the movie and watch it like that, then 10/10 for its amazing visuals. It's like a 3D documentary about sea and its inhabitants. But if you watch it as a whole, then it's just junk food for people who want to pass time. That's about it.
That was so good seeing this movie in IMAX theater.
just new FXs. please Cameron, hire some people for the script...
THE CGI OMG?! Saw on 3d and I NEEDDD to see it again. W loads of 2nd movies it’s just not the same vibe as the first and the first movie is always hard to match but James Cameron (my fav) Nailleddddd it as per usual
Went to see this in the cinema on Boxing Day. A mistake. So bad that I walked out during the "whaling" scene. I loved the first movie, this one not so much.
The best IMAX 3D experience I had so far. The movie itself wasn't a masterpiece, but still entertaining.
At 3hr 19min, it definitely felt shorter. All those people people that say it was a drag, went in with the intent to dislike it. If you go in to be immersed, you will enjoy it. I feel the first half was just establishing shots, and tedious everyday activities. But it was soooo compelling.
I never watch 3d anymore, but I forgot how much depth it adds. Can't really say I noticed the HFR, unlike the hobbit.
I wasn't disappointed at all. Never thought I would get through the whole 3 hours without falling asleep but I didn't doze off once! #saysalot #thumbsupforme
Avatar The Way of Water was a cinema experience i'll remember for a long time, i finally got the chance to witness this beautiful world of on the big screen and i absolutely loved it
the visuals were absolutely stunning, amazing VFX, the acting was incredible just like the first one, and the fight scenes, especially towards the end, one of a kind
Watched it in RealD 3D yesterday. Whilst it of course wasn't as good as the IMAX version it was still brilliant which is testament to the quality of the film. Just as good and almost better than the original. An absolute must watch in my opinion!
While it is a long movie it didn't feel like one. Also didn't feel like a good movie or a good sequel. Most of the setup from the first movie is thrown away in the first scenes. Plot is simple but okay (possibly one of the good things of this movie is that the plot wasn't overly complicated). What drags this movie down is the way the plot advances and dialogue that feels like it could be written by anybody (I could guess what characters where going to say or do for pretty much every scene).
What was most annoying to me was the fact that whole messager of Avatar movies is connection to nature and life, but some of the best scenes in this movie are of death and murder - Neytiri shooting her bow, shootouts, hunts... It felt disgusting at one point, especially during the hunt for tulkuns. Also none of the characters seem to feel any remorse after those events, except maybe Spider.
Characters do not grow or change - Jake Sully still uses a gun, soldiers are 1 dimensional as possible, kids have 1 trait...
Nitpick - Jake Sully didnt seem to know what a moon pool was...
Overall not a really good movie, pretty and nicely paced, but that's about it. It is more frustrating than fun. Titanic scene at the end was good :)
How it makes you hate your own species it’s truly fascinating… I hope they make profit and continue the series
The same structure and main dynamics of the first movie adapted into a family setting. I have to admit I fell asleep towards the end, although just a couple of minutes during the never-ending sea battle. Once you get used to the unquestionable visual spectacle, you are left with a movie that is way too messy and bloated, proposing the same exact dynamics and tropes multiple times without adding anything, all at the service of shallow messages on environmentalism and dated views of family roles. Strange they didn’t have a barbecue in the end like in a Fast & Furious movie. Not to mention all the retcons and ridiculously dated kids' movie tropes they used just to bring back original cast members and build unneeded family bonds between characters at all costs. The more I think about it, the lower my score gets, so I’ll just stop here and leave two stars for the undeniable productive effort.
It was about what I figured it would be. It’s been awhile since I’ve watched a film in the third dimension and the visuals were very good and I did find the sea environment to be a more pleasant looking environment than the jungle. But that’s most of the positives in this one. Story and acting were mediocre at best and it felt quite stretched with the over 3 hour runtime. Like the first film, I’m sure I will forget all about it in short time.
the movie is gorgeous visually and cinematography speaking, but the plot has some stupid moments.
It has taken more than ten years for James Cameron to take us back to Pandora. More than ten years to make us dream again and enrapture us with the adventures of the Na'vi.
And you can tell when a film is made with care, with care and, of course, with a lot of money invested. And Avatar is a clear example of this. An almost impeccable film, in my opinion, in which its 192 minutes of footage show you another region of Pandora. And with it, new creatures, new cultures and new adventures.
And just as it did in the first part, it holds up a mirror to us and shows us how cruel and monstrous human beings can be.
Avatar 2 is a film about family, above all. Not just the one we forge with blood ties, but those people who become our world. And it broadens our horizons, showing us more characters besides Jake and Neytiri, and learning more about the world of Pandora.
Needless to say, technically it is outstanding, and the only "but" I can give it is that it stretches out some scenes a little too long, but it's not overly annoying and exhausting. It is a film you must see more than once to appreciate the beauty of the water worlds Cameron shows us, their creatures and their people.
Beautiful. Masterpiece! I probably hold my breath to often during the movie because it felt so real. Love it!
Despite the criticism it received, I am one of the people who really liked Avatar (2009) and it is part of my 3D film library. Due to the above, I expected that this new film would please me the same. It was not so. From the first minutes I began to be disappointed: the voiceover that tells what happened in the last decade seemed to me a very poor resource for a film like this. The inclusion, in my opinion forced, of the same villain from the first film only ended up disappointing me and understanding that not only would I not like it the same as the first film, but I would like it much less. The visual effects are amazing, the photography is wonderful, and the characters are adequate. But the plot is not up to all technical achievements. Of course: it is quite entertaining, since its more than three hours do not feel like such once you let yourself be immersed in the story.
Beautifull movie but with mediocre story. 10 graphic wise 8 for the story. Enjoyed the movie all the way but it felt to flat.
Much better than the first one, certainly should be watched in IMAX, since the views is the main part of the film. The story is as simple as it was in first one, but the blue guys as well as humans are not so flat as their were in previous one. Definitely worth to go to it at least once. Though doesn’t worth to go twice.
Words cannot describe the experience of watching this movie. Definitely recommend watching it in 3D. For over 3 hours I lived in the world of Pandora and felt a pain in my chest having to leave it at the end of the movie. Will most likely watch it over and over, whenever I get the chance. The wait was totally worth it!
Magnum Opus, Compelling, Stunning
Avatar The Way of Water's cinematic brilliance is something unparalleled and is supposed to stay that way for a long time. Nothing comes close to this if imagination and fiction comes into play. Cameron builds onto a wonderful extension of a world he created 14 years ago. Even if the story is cliched and doesnt grasp your undivided attention, the visuals, cinematography and pure imaginative elements fused with adequate drama and strong action sequences make it worth your tickets price.
Avatar 1 had set the bar for being an astounding piece of science fiction by breaking box office collections left and right. The second is on the same path. Over 1 Billion Dollars collections already Worldwide, the film is a experience you shouldn't miss in the cinemas. Cameron's vision is exemplary and powerful. The world building, powerful character dynamics, brilliant action set pieces are a bit let down by a noteworthy score which i believed could have been more inspiring and rousing to say the least. Nevertheless , its a criminal to challenge anything James Cameron has build with watever resources he had. Commendable.
Unlike the first part, this one has a few new interesting additions in terms of characters. Jake Sully and Neyitri have 4 children now. Sam's and Zoe's characters were mostly supporting characters with relatively less screen space. Kate Winslet is brilliant as Ronal . Britain Dalton as Loak is amazing. He excels in this storyline which becomes thr most likeable character and his friendship with the sea creature steals the show this time around. Overall, watching animated actors doesn't really give you the sense of their hardwork which has gone behind so its difficult to judge it.
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James Cameron's Avatar is a scintillating product of sheer hardwrork and imagination which not only transcends you into an alien world but make you feel for them. Cameron brings science-fiction into this 21st century with a jaw-dropping wonder that is “Avatar" and he did it with elegance. Starting with sci fi, stunning visuals, astounding world creation, resonating sound design and adequate drama and action Avatar is a sensational triump in cinema.
Starting from the concept, the credit of the entire blockbuster goes to the visual-effects technicians, creature designers, motion-capture mavens, stunt performers, dancers, actors and music and sound magicians. It's a piece of art which deserves the best screen for a viewing. A regret I wasn't mature enough experience this back in 2009. The film being close to 3 hours doesn't feel long as the world building itself sinks your attention into it. Cinematography and Action design is just splendid. A literal cinematic brilliance from Cameron.
Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana as the lead pair are beautiful. Starting from the energy and chemistry the characters have shared the adequate body language to all the VFX which adds to a realistic presentation. Stephen Lang is outstanding in a character you loath. He is feary and powerful and his presence suddenly increases the tension around the scene. He is damn good.
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Just a fantastic sequel to the original and just as good and popular as the original. The beginning was a bit confusing on the storyline as it was a bit rushed and lots of elements thrown the audiences way but I guess the producers just want to get into the main storyline ASAP. Anyway, the main storyline of what the natives life is now with kids, ect is a breath of fresh air until the past catches up but in a surprising way. The filming and acting and plot development is just incredible. Yes some scenes were dragged out as it is a 3 hour film but it’s edge of your seat whole film. Just really well done.
Loving the visuals and characters, but the story and plot was not so stunning as I hoped.
people seems to think highly of this sequel because of their graphics. I do admit it's cool and great cgi, but I don't think the story is good enough. Jake Sully is literally a walking disaster, he bring war everywhere he go and get everyone involved in the process. and the kids, the kids always become the source of their problem and always became burden. this is very cliche, almost every american movie that involved children always goes this way that it bores me.
Gorgeuous, but 3 hours is so long!
The most dangerous thing about Pandora is that you might grow to love her too much
CGI is well done.
Anti-colonial message is quite clear.
But none of this new or unique.
Story is as generic as possible.
The original Avatar had novelity factor of its green
screen work, which is now the norm for movies.(Even the original's story was generic.)
Great visuals, one of the few movies that should really watched in 3D on the big screen. The story was quite predictable. Quite some time of the movie is just fantastic visuals without any importance to the story. Feels like scuba diving - enjoy nature and don't think about anything.
More supreme than the first, first was definitely overrated to me but this beautiful picture has definitely made me a bigger fan of avatar with it’s outstanding effects & picture and action that just glow start to finish and definitely was worth watching it in 3D.
James Cameron just went and delivered the most beautiful-looking movie made in history of mankind.
Visually excellent but the storyline follows many of the same beats of the first movie. If you're looking for something original you are going to be disappointed.but if it's a spectacle that you're after, this should satisfy you.
Went to the cinema just expecting a movie with awesome CGI and visuals... But i got so much more, the movie was fun from start to end, the universe is so interesting, the characters likeable, and the story while not amazing is good, also, action scenes are INSANE, so much better than the first movie in every regard
Very nice! (Not as good/perfect as I hoped but I was expecting too much and the technology simply isn't there yet :o :D)
Unfortunately I never watched the first one in the cinema. I didn't repeat that mistake and made sure to watch this second movie in a cinema - and not just any cinema but an Imax (3D OV HFR). My expectations were very high as I was two times in an Imax as a child and both Imax documentaries were stunning (they used analog films back then). This time I was a bit worried because they switched to a digital projection system (duh, Avatar is of course only available digitally) and the resolution is "limited" to 4K (which I already have at home on a 28" screen). Tbh 4K isn't enough for a cinema (yet alone an Imax) but I also doubt that an 8K version of this movie is available at this point as the rendering is surly incredibly expensive.
Anyway, it was stunning and I definitely cannot wait to watch a behind the scenes / making-of. The CGI was amazing. Especially the water, the dark scenes with rain, the underwater scenes (beautiful performance capturing!), and overall of course. However, in a cinema, the technology isn't ready yet as one would need an 8K version as it is too blurry otherwise (but blurry is still much better than pixelated!). The HFR (high frequency rate) is apparently also not enough, unfortunately. One gets used to it but many motions aren't smooth enough and it was distracting at the beginning. The 3D also wasn't that impressive tbh (nice and worth it but not like IRL). However, I was amazed by the water simulation and rendering! Technically, such a light simulation must be really expensive and I really wonder how much computing time it took. A few scenes were incredible / completely photorealistic but I believe that's because some of the water scenes were actually filmed IRL (e.g., I remember a scene where a submarine (with only humans inside) got flooded with water).
So technically it wasn't perfect (as the first one was) but still really good/impressive.
As for the story: I really like it :) Jake and Neytiri are still nice and I have a new favorite character: Kiri. She felt like the chosen one to me since the scene at the beginning where a few seeds from the sacred tree landed on her and she interacted with the grass/environment. I always though she would have a super powerful moment at the end (like in the first movie when Eywa sent help) but I guess they decided to save that moment for one of the next movies :D The other children are nice as well and there were lot's of superb moments. I'm glad that Norm and a few other scientists are still around. I'm especially glad that Grace is still there (even if not completely alive or rater not in a physical body yet) - I hope she'll play a bigger role in the next movie when she gets her Avatar body back. I don't really miss the Colonel but he keeps things interesting and can be quite entertaining (as was the ship's captain) - both definitely really despicable as well though. Spider (Miles) also helps keeping things really interesting. I hated Neytiris desperate move at the end though and thought they'd loose Spider due to it. I really hope they'll talk about that moment in the next movie (I hope that Neytiri did just bluff and that Spider knows it but I'm not entirely sure myself - plus they do owe Spider IMO!). There was also a really nice and cute girl (Tsireya?) from the other tribe but I forgot her name, unfortunately (most of the names are too difficult for me to understand and remember :o).
The scene with Kiri and the many little glowing fishes at the end was super beautiful <3
And I really like how Kiri often interacts with the environment. She's definitely the most interesting character IMO and I like her kindness and spirit (kinda happy/innocent/nice but also bored/annoyed/depressed/scared/etc.). I assume (and hope!) that she'll become the most powerful character.
It was also nice that the story switched between the Humans and Na'vi. The scenes with the Humans have action and cool Sci-Fi designs/technology while the Na'vi scenes offer beautiful nature, balance, etc.
And there were of course a few funny/entertaining/awesome lines! <3
This movie shows a nice new part of Pandora, had enough content (action, world building/exploration, etc.), and also leaves enough content and possibilities for the next movies. Hopefully we won't have to wait another 13 years for the next movie though :D (It currently doesn't look that way but let's not forget that the initial aim for the Avatar 2 release was 2014.) However, I definitely prefer waiting longer over getting a bad/rushed movie! :)
3 hours that felt like 2 hours! I love it, is funny, sensible, emotional and breath taking
Lol at all the fanboys and girls rating this a 10. It's an 8 at very best.
The middle is an absolute slog, but the payoff is worth it in the end as the final act is fantastic.
Sometimes the visuals are spectacular, other times they're just okay. It's not the huge leap forward everyone is making it out to be. Except perhaps for the ship/sub scenes towards the end.
This movie didn't need to be 3h 15m + trailers. Would have been way better if they cut some of the fat in the middle
Some of the dialogue/characters/subplots seemed pointless during the middle but made more sense once the story came together in the end.
Visually impressive, the rest is fine
The story was alright and the visuals were good, and great use of the 3D…
But damn that high frame rate just killed any immersion for me. Some scenes just switch from 24 to 48ips out of nowhere (not even ramping them up, a straight up switch).
Either shoot everything in 48 or 24 (ideally this one) but don’t do this weird up down up down patchwork, I felt like I was on a roller coaster.
If you have an experienced eye for these sort of things, or used to high framerates from games, you gonna want to throw up.
Lack of good plot and character development was a serious let down. They even had great template to copy it from. What they could have done is to focus on a character and build him up. Or focus on the world building. I am impressed with the world building and creature designs. Excellent visuals.
Well yes, it's a great movie... but it makes me hate humanity so hard. The "bad guys" are so realistic, I really believe that exactly this will happen if somewhere in the future a similar situation would occur somehow.
It exceeded my expectations and achieved to capture the same magic as its predecessor. Really loved everything: the story, the CGI, the soundtrack, and the 3D. Epic.
Even though it lasts 3 hours, there were times when I felt like some scenes were cut. Maybe we’ll get an extended cut release.
I really looked forward to this movie but 3h 10min to watch nice CGI effect doesn't make it a good movie. The plot was flat. There were a few scenes where I was reminded of "Die Hard" and "Ariel". I don't really look forward to the next part.
Not a total disappointment, but a disappointment none the less. James Cameron chose to follow in the footsteps of two other much belated follow-ups: The Force Awakens and Top Gun Maverick. That is to say, James Cameron chose to dress up a remake and call it a sequel. I can hardly blame him. It's a technique that clearly has proven effective, as both the Star Wars and Top Gun examples were billion dollar plus box office juggernauts. But for me, it just feels lazy. I couldn't help but roll my eyes as this movie trotted out not only the same exact antagonist, but even many of the same exact lines from the original. Then you've got remixes of scenes (Colonel Quaritch going to the floating mountains to bond with a dragon type pokemon). And the fundamental human conflict also uses an identical set-up (i.e. humans want a valuable resource (unobtanium/whale brain juice) that is found in a holy place for the Na'Vi (Home Tree/Whales).
Now, with all of that said, I will acknowledge the two new ideas that were clearly intended to shake up the formula, both in terms of story and spectacle. On the story side, this film introduces the family theme, which does contribute to story/character depth that was lacking in the original. It doesn't all work perfectly, and some of the threads are left unresolved (presumably setting up for the sequel(s)), but enough lands for it to be a positive differentiator (I enjoyed Spider's role, although I think they shouldn't have shied away from a much darker ending). On the spectacle side, we get the titular focus on water. For much of the film, the water based visuals weren't adding much for me, but the final set piece did win me over, with James Cameron leveraging all of his Abyss/Titanic experience to bring a suitably thrilling water based action sequence to life. All in all, much like the original, this film survives on its spectacle, but I was hoping for more.
I think there was never a part 2...
I hope whenever this drops in 2018 it does justice to the first one, the dynamics of History, Culture, Spirituality & Social awareness worked great. I was actually surprised that a lot of people said they didn't like it.
The first Avatar did nothing for me so I almost didn't see this. Very glad I did. Technically this blew me away on a level I only experienced through Jurassic Park and Gravity.
It has everything. Good story. Riveting action. IMAX and 3D like you've never experienced before. Just wow. Thanks, James Cameron.
the wait has been taking so long so hopefully next year is the one
somehow frustrated with this movie. a lot of continuity problem. characters poorly developed, overal the plot is a mess. amazing visuals top level special FX. but the plot fails to deliver the well deserved sequel.
avatar1 was really great
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As expected of any Avatar movie, the graphics and scenery were gorgeous. They spent a lot of time showing the underground world, and while it was gorgeous it does drag on at times. The only thing that I didn't like, was that it essentially the same plot as the first movie. Despite winning in the last movie, the humans are back and the family essentially just takes their fight from the forests to the water. I still enjoyed the movie. The addition of the children makes for a bit of a plot change, and the action was good. I just hope this doesn't end up being a movie series with the same plot in each movie, just carried out in different landscapes to capitalize on the ability to spend most of the movie showing amazing landscapes.