This was satisfying movie.
Highlights:
1. The mood: love the change to previous Batman movies. Love the characters concepts and communication.
2. The visuals: love the camera work
3. The sounds / soundtrack: love the this, so fitting to the mood. There is one tune that always evoked in me Westworld :-)
4. Villains (actors and characters): Paul Dano, Jahn Turturro, Colin Farrell - awesome acting, awesomely written characters.
extra: the pacing combined with the moon and visuals was 90% right, only in the end I felt already tired (by it and of it), yet still would rate it as very positive.
Lows:
1. Cast: Robert Pattison. a) he just looks weird b) he looks frail, whole movie I could not associate him with Batmen especially one that takes so much punishment in the movie c) His character as it was written was awesome, but at the end the melodramatic (1 emotion only) diminishes character growth at the end.
2. Cast: Zoe Kravitz, while she had more opportunity for showcasing more of acting, she was not able to draw me to her character. Again the visual frailness was disconnecting for with the action on the screen.
3. Ending: The Riddlers final plot felt to me very weak and not dangerous (rising the stakes). As well as the character growth was very moot (which is kind of ok, taking into consideration the whole pacing, mood, and narrative, but it takes something away)
Great and refreshing take on Batman, but more a crime movie than action. It felt too long, some pieces are great acting and Robert Pattinson did well. Interested to see how they will continue this.
This Batman movie was good. (But not for the reasons you think)
As a person that isn't really a fan-boy/fan-girl for any of the actors and I was just watching this for the average interest of "what did they do with this film?". I wasn't very impressed overall. All the actors in this film did a fine job, and the casting was well done. The issues;
-1 how sporadic the plot of the movie was, Batman was just all over the place, and I wouldn't say it's an issue for the audience, but an issue for pacing, keeping a direction and theme.
-2 This movie was trying to be serious and there weren't any real jokes for puns- which makes sense.. but in my opinion, they utterly failed to make it serious. I was watching this film with my family and we were laughing our asses off, there is a comical amount of police in this movie, and the way batman fights was very cliche, and just the way batman's cape looks like a trash bag.. I couldn't take it seriously.
-3 This movie was missing alot, I'm used to a batman that's put into an impossibly critical situation because he is one guy against them all, or just the lonely (I don't mean emo, I mean lonely in a literal sense) aspect of Batman, it's basically him vs all of gothem, but Cat women acts like she's his side kick, cat women is a slinky love intrest, not half the damn plot.
-4 This movie was failing in having a good soundtrack, cause it was very underwhelming. Music is extremely important to convey a feeling, or how a character feels in the moment. The soundtrack was basically background noise with about two chimes of a cello every 5 seconds, that is NOT music. And the main song they picked "Something in the way" it may half had the perfect lyrics for Batman himself, but the song was not good enough to play for long stretches of time, the music only barely fit the theme of the film (The damned song sounds like an emo garage band.)
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself by ranting. But when something is called "The batman" I would hope that everyone is a side character and Batman is in a pitch black spot light. I mean just look at the cover, they got everyone on there like it's a starwars movie.. IT'S BATMAN. I guess it's worth a watch so you know what I'm talking about.
I woulld write something longer, but I got school to do.
Ciao
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Nice movie. Shame that actors have nothing to express themselves upon. Couple of appealing scenes and angles. Picture is too dark.
For me this was a miss..... I'm not a big super hero movie fan, but I do love Batman. He got me through some tough times with grieving and will always be important to me.
To me, Batman represents balance. The visual balance of day vs night, dark vs light, even the giant mansion above ground vs the equal cave below. Also the emotional balance.... someone having every material possession as Wayne, but only feeling fulfillment through vengeance and literally restoring the balance of power to Gotham City.
It also seems like the city either loved him and thought he was a hero or hated him and exiled him until they realized that he was useful. . in this movie they didn't seem to like him, but they allowed him to do his thing
To me this movie was unbalanced..... it was too dark..... Even when Pattinson was Wayne he was dark.
I didn't love the batmobile.... he hardly brought out any new gadgets.... and his batsuit was seemingly indestructible.. it can stop bullets, but he should still feel the force of the blow.... I personally would break some bones if I hit a bridge at 80mph.
I did appreciate some of the nods to the Adam West Batman with the dumb jokes, and Kravitz and Dano are perfection.
Although a good film with great cinematography. I feel like Pattinson would have been an amazing Terry McGinnis and this film should have been Batman beyond.
If you watch it as a normal action movie its okay, but if you watch it as a Batman movie, I find it disappointing
you have to keep in mind this is two years after he has become the batman already there is already a Batman sign in the sky its not the start of batman
1- Batman walking trough the main door in all the places. Batman supposed to be hidden not seen by many coming trough the window and disappearing again, [spoiler] not like it was here going with Gordon trough the hall, going trough the main entrance in falcons bar [/spoiler]
2- his gadgets, [spoiler]he didn't use anything beside his grappling hook few times, instead of using smoke bombs he made the fire extinguisher explode, and what are the sikes on his arm that Blade would use to kill vampires [/spoiler]
3- no contrast between batman and Bruce Wayne, yes batman is glooming depressed dark mood, but Bruce Wayne is a character that's happy acting cowardly playing as if he only cares for money and girls when he is in public
4- asking other people as batman who is this person who is that person. Instead of using his detective skills and computer he literally goes asks [/spoiler]penguin who is this woman on the picture [/spoiler], wow very batman like
Edit: I couldn't get spoiler marking to work so I spoiler marked everything
I wanted to love this but it just fell short of watchable. I'm the last person to complain about a film taking its time and doing things 'properly' but this cut could have been a lot tighter.
It starts off strong and I like that we have the detective side of Batman showing... But its just lacklustre all round. The story meanders and holds no real weight, the ridder was fucking irritating. Though his little incel horde was pretty realistic. And that 'Joker'. Ugh.
For all the hype this has been getting I was expected a lot more.
2 hours after the movie what is still on my head is the nirvana song and a felling I never got to truly connect with the Batman because of fear, or because the camera was always distorted
I like how Batman is depicted with a naive and loser POV from his rich high tower, a rich trust fund baby called out by both sane (Catwoman) and insane (Riddler) people while he remains oblivious until the consequences are literally flooding the city. While he uses the idea of Batman as a mantle for him to process trauma, his obliviousness to his own celebrity status and image creates unintentional side effects from his parents' death hogging the spotlight away from the people that mattered to his own nebulous idea of "vengeance" being co-opted by the goons, a heel-turn realization that eventually changes the rack focus, ultimately leading to a wider perspective and a selfless act of cutting the cord and helping others. Hope is more important than his idea of justice, in the end, empathy being the missing piece throughout. Instead of being a voyeur like Riddler during his master plan (Riddler binoculars on the mayor, Batman binoculars on Catwoman), he switches to being on the ground to help, no longer from his high castle.
It's interesting how this arc plays out. At the beginning, it plays into this "badass" idea comic book fans love to gloat about Batman of striking fear into crime, but the way it's portrayed is frightening to everyone. It's a better criticism of Batman's fascism than BvS was going for, showcasing his fear to people who don't even deserve it, such as kids doing vandalism who probably believe the system is failing them, but to him at the beginning crime all looks the same.
Honestly this film goes harder than Phantasm on the tragedy that is Bruce Wayne. They're inseparable by choice, to the point that Bruce basically is Batman even when not in the costume, a social recluse who can barely function in real life, listening to emo music and having rings around his eyes, a night owl to the extreme. The struggle is there even as Batman, literally smashing his face on a truck.
There are some contradictions throughout thematically, however. It's weird how it goes between "it's the WHOLE system, all cops are pigs" to "it's just bad apples" simultaneously, displaying a somewhat cringe centrism. Catwoman by the end basically points it more to systemic (and Batman and Thomas Wayne's criticism of thinking they know better and actually makings things worse isn't undercut, which by itself is also institutional criticism), although it still feels like they could've done more. Maybe out of their hands by the studio or this as far as they could get away with vs. the producers (it almost felt like a struggle for Catwoman to outline her "eat the rich" mentality). Gotham itself is a mess of contradictions and it's OK to let the viewer lie between it all I guess.
Also the relationship between Catwoman and Batman is kinda slimy and male-centric. Catwoman, while great as a character, functionally falls to Batman's controlling force with a forced romance in the second act. Sure they're both suffering from trauma but Batman was literally using her despite it all, it at least understands the power gap more in the third act.
The end of the second act also spins its wheels a bit too much, the mystery pace kinda suffers a bit from focus and scenes get too drawn out (Riddler just disappears for a while). The movie could've been 20 minutes shorter. Doesn't stop it from having a terrific third act since most blockbusters have kinda sucked on that note
Although speaking of Riddler, master class. Probably my favorite villain in a Batman film.
The aesthetic was gorgeous. I love its color grading and architecture, still thinking of the Wayne tower and its metal grates, goth hallways, and insane attention to detail that gets blurred out intentionally in the frame for most of the movie by Bruce's obliviousness to the world. It also keeps a balance of evoking the black/white movies while still being colorful, more of flooded black and oranges. I think of that sequence with Penguin not mainly for the fight itself (which to me was a bit messy) but moreso the flooded orange of the fire being the only color creating a sorta gradient on the black car, and how the flare at the end matches that aesthetic, that one color illuminating Batman leading everybody else to exit the frame, like a light in the darkness. Lovely
The music.... Giacchino just beat out his Incredibles score for me, masterful work with motifs, percussion, and rhythm. His mastery of percussion and horns during the lights out Batman hallway fight and how the horns blast, how well edited the percussion beat subtly goes through the Penguin chase and other fight sequences, Batman doesn't quite have a dance like Hong Kong films but the music makes it come close. The timpani and strings are so well used!!! Great use of Ave Maria both as soundtrack and score. Catwoman's motif? Amazing.
The performances are great all around. Finally a film with Turturro that I don't hate him. He's well restrained and perfectly cast, his dickish attitude now a strong point making him very memorable with very little screen time, much like Farrell in the same film. Kravitz made me the closest to tearing up with how she visually handles conflicting emotions, I still think about that scene with the voicemail where her eyes are all over the place and has trouble keeping it all together. Dano as Riddler is terrific.
Yep, this is my fav Batman film now.
I didn't get why they made Catwoman so naive and lighthearted. Catwoman is character that can fool batman with ease. Dunno, let's wait for the sequels
Moments of genius filmmaking with a brooding unease make this movie stand out. This is a very different Batman... and for me, lacked something. I am not sure whether it was the long runtime, the narration, the incessant rain, the convoluted storyline, or Pattinson's demeanor - but something didn't sit right. Having said that, there were plenty of eye opening scenes to make it memorable. In fact, the car chase alone is worth the price of admission. Also, kudos to the sound editing which is astonishing and a feast for the ears. Go watch it at the cinema on the best screen... I watched it at the Odeon iSense with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and was very impressed with how clear the picture was - which is a marvel considering most of the film is in the dark with rain. Will it be in my top 10 for this year? I'm not sure... perhaps it needs a second viewing :-) 8/10
Other than Robert Pattinson being a weird emo version of Batman his great acting wasn't compromised. The plot was a bit all over the place. There were also some plot points that made one think that this is not a stand alone Batman movie. However, the length, fantastic very well committed acting, special affects, atmosphere, and bat woman character made for a film that could be argued for being as good as "The Dark Knight." Overall a very unique Batman movie that is a cinemark master piece.
I am shocked by how good this movie was, this type of batman is the best in my opinion. The dark, tortured and dramatic personality. The shots that was obviously made with greenscreen also payed a great homage to older movies. Excellent and I will rewatch it for sure
The man serving popcorn said ‘the Batman, better than all the dark knight Batman’s’ I should have known there and then he didn’t know what he was talking about. Unlike Nolan’s masterpiece, the Dark Knight, this Batman won’t stand the test of time. It’s a film that doesn’t know what it wants to be… dark? yeah a bit, but what’s with the hero saving people from water and carrying a little child… and the love story with cat woman… it’s like Se7en only not nearly as clever. And it borrows from so many others (the Crow?).
It’s narrative is convoluted, the riddler isn’t scary nor is he a patch on Ledger’s Joker. He’s just not believable. The penguin is brilliant, but merely a side story, the car chase and action scenes are phenomenal, but almost lost in too many drawn out conversations with Gordon. Alfred isn’t anywhere near as endearing as Michael Caine’s. All in all, a good film, but too long, and too unsure of what it wants to be. And what’s with that wingsuit…
I have never been fond of this particular franchise, I have always found the character of Batman quite boring. Indeed in this film its character comes out of nowhere, without any sort of background (very light even in the rest of the movie) in a well-portraited Chicago. The action scenes were quite good, but the same length of other boring and slow recitative parts. Very annoying the female deuteragonist, completely pointless and just there for being a cute girl (why not Robin instead?), and the fact that the various riddles were solved by Batman in no time at all, leaving the audience no chances to even understand what they say literally.
Bit long but otherwise a good romp
Honestly, a great movie. I definitely recommend this to others. Though I wonder how Robert would do if he had a sidekick.
Greig Fraser is on a roll — first Dune, and now The Batman. This movie is beautifully shot, and Matt Reeves damn know how to stage a scene
This movie the best Batman ever
Anyone going into this thinking of Robert Pattinson as “that guy from twilight” needs to look past that — his performance is amazing and he breathes a new life into the caped crusader. Excited to see where the story goes!
Robert Pattinson steps into the Dark Knights cowl to give an incredible performance :clap_tone1: I really loved this darker and almost grunge take on Batman (with an amazing soundtrack to match :notes:) - The Batman certainly feels like a movie about Batman, with Bruce being a quieter side to this story, although no less interesting.
A great cast (so many actors in this that I had no idea were even in this!) and I have to say Colin Farrell and Paul Dano give amazing performances - even with the prosthetic’s and makeup Colin Farrell shone through and his scenes and line delivery made me laugh more than once.
Definitely one of the best Batman movies made and I honestly can’t wait to see Robert Pattinson grow and develop his Bruce Wayne/Batman arc :bat:
i really liked the direction they took with this batman movie, and Robert Pattinson's batman was amazing, i can't wait to see more of it
i'm also glad it was 3 hours long, worth every minute
Nolan's batman more like Superhero movie but Reeves's Batman is more like Batman movie. The version of batman is more hooked with comics. We all are delighted with hand to hand combat of Robert, dark color gradient and direction of movie.
I liked what he tells and how he tells it. Focusing it on research has been interesting
A decent action flick with some nice character design (i.e. the Riddler) and great casting. Storytelling is somewhat bland and if you've seen a few tropes and some cult classics this movie might fail to grab ahold of you. The 3 hour runtime does not feel justified (however still preferable to splitting up the movie in two parts as I feel this is the lesser of two evils). Better than the crap that Marvel churns out seemingly bi-monthly but that's a really low bar to pass.
So boring the only good thing was seeing Zoey on a big screen
Whenever Batman shuffled into view, he always appeared ready to drop dead. I guess this is how even superheroes feel in todays world.
Overly long, overly dark, and overly serious. However, it hones closer to the comic books than some - we get to see the 'world's greatest detective' do some detecting for a change - and there are flashes of brilliance throughout. Batman and Gotham City could have lightened up a little during the film's long run time but it's still a decent film, despite the sombre tone.
I've loved Batman since I was a kid. I've loved every iteration of Batman, and this is no exception. I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was an interesting and dark twist on the Batman story. It has allusions to the real world, politically and socially. The music was great too. This will definitely be a multiple rewatch for me.
most people would be like; fuck you matt reeves why did you directed such a long movie i had to pee so hard during the movie. guess what? this aint not no my situation. listen up my people cuz i was like; imma be wise you feel me? i did not drink before and the during movie maybe couple of a sips. the movie was long but time flew by, good cast, good characters, paul dano was the best to my mind. good directing, amazing set design, the caligraphy was stunning so altogether grear work go watch it. definitelly recommend it to people who think rob partinson is a shit movie star. he is not. he proved a lot just as the rest of the cast: paul, jeffrey, collin, zoe, just to name a few. thanks a lot mates!
ps i even liked the nirvana song , i was not a fan off the band but gotta tell yall it suited well the movie just as the rest of whole score.
Most of the comments left before mine were made before the movie even was made or released.
WARNING: This movie is very, very dark for DC. It is true to the original Batman comic books and the more recent gothic ones. It is not for kids. If you are thinking about taking kids under 13, go see it first. I don't think most parents want their kids seeing this.
Next, comic book geeks, been one since I was 9, will really appreciate this. It's amazingly true to the Kane Batman while keeping with the newer darker comics. DC has stepped up its movie game here. I didn't think Patterson was a good choice, but I was converted after 20-25 minutes in. I was a little disappointed in the Halle Berry lookalike. They usually change up the look of the Catwoman with any new Batman and don't repeat a look, but realized why at a very specific point in the movie. She's really good, so it works.
It's very long. but fast moving and just fantastic cinematography. The script is really good also but all the campiness that really started with the 60's television show is gone. There's nothing funny about this. It's action, it's drama, it's crime, it's disturbing, it's gritty, and it's dark, very dark. And it still maintains the constant that Batman is anti gun. Very few versions even mention this anymore.
Which brings me to the messages in there, very quick references to current time, without beating the horse about it. I haven't seen any bad reviews, but today is only the second night. If you're anti woke, if you really don't think you're racist but are (still say racist stuff. have been accused before, etc), this movie may trigger you. Two couples got up and left after the one scene and it was just one line. They didn't make a ruckus thankfully, maybe they did out in the concession area. Don't know, don't care. If you still go see it, well, keep your Karens in your head. Everyone else paid to see it also and don't care about what you think of one scene.
Ok so, I love Colin Farrell. I kinda knew he was cast in this. I try to avoid spoilers, trailers and set photos before watching anything. I went to the cinema tonight and kept wondering "wasn't Colin Farrell supposed to be part of this?". I waited and as the film went along, I kinda forgot about it. At the end, when the credits rolled, I saw Colin Farrell's name on the screen. Actually, that was the first time I recognized him at all tonight. On the way back home I kept wondering. Then I looked up the cast here on Letterboxd. I did not understand. Then I looked it up on Google. Tbh guys. Like to be really honest. Just WHAT.
Very good! Batman already established as a figure. Nice mysterious enemy who is on the verge of a psychological thriller. Batman gets to show his logical thinking beyond just raw strength. Also feels modern considering the recruitment of enemies online and how corrupt the police can be.
Went to a midnight showing, so when I saw this doesn't feel like a three-hour film, you know I mean it. It has its slower moments but they're timed perfectly so that the film never drags.
Everyone's great, performance-wise, but Zoe Kravitz is perfect for Catwoman. I do love this interpretation of Riddler, and Dano is sensational, but I do prefer the more cerebral (and stylish) Riddler like we got in the Gotham show - that version remains the best for me. This one does fit into the world they've created here.
Speaking of, it's the world that prevents me from giving this a 10. It feels like it's trying to occupy the space between Nolan's pure-gritty and Burton's more comic-book, and as a result, feels like it's trying to have the best of both worlds and it doesn't quite come off. Considering how comic-book it looks in terms of shot types, and style as a whole, I reckon they could have pushed it a little further in the designs of characters and the world itself.
Spoiler-Free Review:
Acting was great. Thought everyone performed well. Robert Pattinson was a great Batman, but I do wish they're was more Bruce Wayne in the movie to give him more character depth.
Cinematography was excellent. Makes excellent use of dark lighting and limited colour.
Music was good, but nothing mind-blowingly awesome. Suited the movie for the most part, but the Batman theme motif was played way too much.
Action, while used sparingly, is also great. There is a really good car-chase scene in Act II.
Story unfortunately did lack quite a bit for me. The pacing particularly was way too slow at times, even in the third Act and there is a lot of detective-style scenes with heavy dialogue which made me get a bit lost at times.
Characters were mostly well written, aside from a "romance" between Batman and Catwoman. Definitely felt forced and unnecessary. The Riddler was excellent. A very well-written villian.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘The Batman’:
After Keaton, Pattinson is officially the next best Batman. No unnecessarily-gruff voices. Appropriately tortured. He evoked all the emotion I needed from the Dark Knight. He makes Batfleck look incredibly subpar.
My biggest qualm with this film is that the mystery, for me, often became fairly difficult to follow and somewhat convoluted. It felt like a lot to take in. I found myself thinking much harder than I wanted to, and it grew frustrating at times — just like a riddle you’re so desperately trying to solve. I wish the complexity was dialed down a notch. Maybe that thought would change with a second watch.
What this film got oh-so-right was the atmosphere. The whole vibe. They nailed it. They made Batman LEGIT intimidating for maybe the first time ever. The shots were fantastic. The score was the biggest standout for me. It was a little Danny Elfman-esque at times. In fact, there were several moments of the film that felt inspired by Burton’s movies.
Bonus Thought: Saw this in IMAX tonight. When the Batmobile first revved its engine, the entire theater shook. Loved it!
The aesthetic was perfect. Looking forward to the next chapter.
Best movie ever:bangbang: Must watch 11/10 :bangbang::100:
What a great movie! A wonderful cinematography and astonishing playing from everyone (specially by Pattinson that makes a young and melancholic Batman). Another great thing here is the score... it's perfect, it gives all the necessary feelings in the scenes brilliantly.
There are a lot of memorable scenes here, this is not just a great superhero movie, but also a great movie in general. I just felt the third act is worse than the rest of the movie, it looked hurried.
Mixed feelings. Saw an early release tonight. Shouts to Cinemark. The D Box Seats are a winner. Definitely made the movie an adventure. Worth seeing if you’re a true Batman fan. I have to watch it again to be sure of what I’m feeling.
A unique take on the character of Batman, as a thoroughly exhilerating noe-noir, with great performances,amazing action sequences and stunning visuals.
It was very good. Just a bit too long and dialogue was pretty blah towards the end. Action sequences were incredible. And Pattinson was fantastic. 8/10
Affleck left as Batman and DC fans on crack started a petition to get Zack Snyder to do it.... I will just watch Dark Knight for the 100000th time.
Lost all interest when Catwoman made a woke comment about white privilege. Wasn't good before that and turned it off after that comment. Don't waste your time, worst Batman movie to date...
This is in many ways the exact movie that The Lego Batman Movie made fun of.
So, I can totally understand if this film reads like self-parody to some (I'll admit, the gravely film noir detective voice over was a bit much, it's been parodied to death at this point), but I'd argue that it's overall a refreshing take on the character in a well thought out story that includes some excellent performances. Paul Dano, Robert Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz all nail their roles.
It's a typical Matt Reeves blockbuster in every sense. It's grounded, serious, and there's a strong emphasis on drama/tension, and less on action. The production and style of this thing are phenomenal. Excellent cinematography, which should be Oscar nominated (but probably won't), music, production value, costumes, directing, etcetera. It's grim, it's dark, it's gritty, but it doesn't feel like it's directed by a 16 year old edgelord either. I love how the colour palette of this film is restricted to black, grey, orange and red. It's perfect, taking clear influences from David Fincher films, neo noir detectives and '70s paranoia thrillers (maybe a hint of Marvel Netflix as well). I hope it reinvents the wheel for many blockbusters to come.
Its biggest problem are the pacing and the characters. I'm fine with defending longer films, but this isn't a smooth 3 hour ride. It holds its cards very close to the chest during the first half, to the point where it's hard to engage with and can get kinda boring. It's a lot of set-up, mood and atmosphere, and not much else. It doesn't really hook you with its characters or the dramatic intrigue of the story, as I didn't find this slow moving mystery compelling enough by itself (partially because it doesn't really engage the audience; you can't solve it by yourself). There's not even that much action to compensate, besides a few quick beats here and there.
It also relies too much on the cultural iconography of Batman and Catwoman that already exists in our current zeitgeist, and while I might know those characters as cultural icons, I don't know this Batman, or this Catwoman. It eventually gets there though, as The Riddler and Catwoman get a lot more interesting in their own right as the film goes along, but it takes a long time. I love that this Riddler is essentially re-imagined to be a radicalized 4 Chan incel , which feels very relevant for today. Still, we know very little about Batman by the end of it (besides his brooding indie rockstar behavior), which is mostly due to the general lack of Bruce Wayne in the film. Batman cannot be interesting without a good Bruce Wayne accompanying him. That's nothing against Robert Pattinson, he's very good in it, but the writing for his character is very one note. As a film, it would've benefitted a lot from a deeper dive into his psyche, because the emotional arc of his character doesn't feel earned by the end.
Still, these issues could easily be fixed in a sequel, it's a good enough foundation for a series of great Batman films.
7/10
The Dark Knight movies were so much better. The second Batman held up a thumb attached to a thumb drive and said “thumb drive” I was absolutely done with this movie. The score and cinematography are good and all, but that’s about all this film has going for it. The best thing in this film is knowing that the Riddler canonically records vertically on his phone. The acting was subpar at best.
Wow! I'll definitely need to rewatch this, but after my first viewing I can say that this is easily in the top 2 Batman movies ever made. I'd need to rewatch both this and The Dark Knight to decide which is better, but man was this a good movie.
Pattinson's Batman is the best version of the character to date. He is absolutely fantastic, and there's so much depth to his performance, and it was amazing to finally get the world's greatest detective on screen! Though, I will say that I found his Bruce Wayne to be lacking in comparison to Affleck or Bale. Not that he was bad as Bruce, but it felt a little odd. Perhaps because we're used to seeing Bruce Wayne as a billionaire playboy rather than a reclusive and 'emo' type.
The craft behind this movie must be praised. Every frame is stunning. Easily the best looking Batman movie ever made - Reeves truly shines here.
I'll probably update this after a rewatch, but for now, this is at least a 9/10.
absolute garbage, had to turn subs on the audio was so incomprehensible, pretentious nonsense, I had to turn off when he was fumbling around for a USB port. Bring back Clooney
Pattinson will nail the role. Twilight is just a glimpse in his otherwise amazing career. He's played dark and deep roles before and he's a beast. I'm confident. The movie by itself... Not so sure. EDIT: After seeing the trailers, I am more than HYPED for this! Can't wait!
Ok I watched an hour of it and turned it off, This has to be the worst Batman movie ever along with Patterson being the worst batman, how this has got so many good reviews is beyond me!!! Nul Points
could at least gave him a descent bike looks & sounds like a restricted 125cc
Better than Affleck's Batman for sure, but Nolan's remains the masterpiece by far.
Despite Robert Pattinson being a little too quiet and emotionless as Bruce Wayne. It’s funny how much his Batman is alive. Though his Bruce Wayne does show the inner scars more of any other Bruce Wayne. It is a little too overdone where you could consider him emo Bruce Wayne.
After a few hundred more viewings, his Bruce will probably grow on me more. His Batman though definitely doesn’t need to grow on me however. He could possibly be the most bad ass.
Paul Dano and Colin Farrell are both equally ingenious as the Riddler and the Penguin. Though Dano is creepier and bone chilling at times. Farrell’s Penguin is like the mob boss we’ve been missing on film since DeNiro in the Untouchables.
While Zoe Kravitz is an excellent Catwoman as well. Who feels the more like the character jumped out of the comic pages. Than the Riddler I admit. Who’s look was changed a little too much. Though him being perfectly out of his mind does make up for that.
The 3 hour length goes so fast surprisingly since the story pulls in you. To learn more about the Riddler especially and who will his next target be. My only problem is that Batman/Bruce is mostly on a motorcycle throughout. Until he just suddenly has the Batmobile in one scene.
Other than that and Pattinson’s Bruce Wayne having to grow on me. The Batman was the most solid Batman film since the Dark Knight. It also might be the closest movie the Arkham video games. Which is a very good thing.
Great movie, even for non batman fans. Still a bit too relying in the telltale batman wayne story arc but still great. The joker at the end was unnecessary
When they said that this was a very different Batman movie from everything we had saw before, they really nailed it. It didn't felt like a Batman movie, but at the same time it felt like one of the most accurate one. This movie shows a more rough Batman, who is still learning and hasn't really figured it out yet. A true Batman Year Two. The gadgets are still somehow primitive and lack of all the shine that they got in any previous Bat movies (like a "techy-do-it-all gadget"). But it really makes more sense that at this point in his career it's still rough on the edges: The car, the "batarang" (more like a batknife), the flying suit, the cameras, even the graphook.
I know shit about cinema and photography and even that, i can say that it has beautiful shots and a really interesting photography, more that any of the previous. The fight scenes are really nicely done, really rough. It remained me to Batffleck's werehouse fight and even the Arkham games. I got a little dissapointed that there wasn't the classic white eyes (there was a rumor) or the "detective vision" (another rumor), but i guess that at least for this second one, it makes sense to not appear with the tech still in so early stage. I liked all the cast choices, and that nice hint in the end for the Joker, was a nice closing bow.
The plot remained me a lot to a series of quest in Arkham City i believe, where you are searching for a serial killer (i think it turns out to be Flamingo or Pyg, don't quite remember), but it gave the same vibe mixed with Seven: A big detective movie, where the detective happens to be The Batman.
I'm interested in see how or if, are they going to continue this, but i think they can build something quite nice around the character. A solid 8.5 for me.
So Much Anticipation For The Batman And Tried Keeping My Expectations Low - Simply Said It Was A Good Movie But Not A Batman Movie - Loved The Dark And Gritty Feel But No Matter What Batman Is A Super Hero Even If He Is A Tragic One - Robert Pattinson Should Have Stuck To Twilight
All I Can Say Is That Christian Bale Is Still The Best Batman & Christopher Nolan Knew Had To Make A Dark And Yet True Super Hero
I have wathced many Batman movies/animations. But this one is the most amatuer Batman and even I felt sorry for him. In my mind Batman has to know what's he is doing. Also the Batman is always one step ahead, this one is not.
What can I say about The Batman (2022)...... Watching this movie made me feel like I was 6 years old again and seeing Batman the Animated Series (1992) for the first time.....it was beautiful, visceral, intense and incredibly shot. Not only was it visually pleasing, but the soundtrack and score for this movie was fuckin mesmerizing, Michael Giacchino just wow. The thing is, this wasn't just an amazing Batman movie, it was an amazing movie in general. Gotham and all of it's desperate and fucked up inhabitants never felt this real. By the end of the movie I had the biggest smile on my face, I just wanted more... I wanted another mystery, another case....I was so sad for it to end. Matt Reeves & Greg Frasier thank you....this is the Batman we needed, this is the hope we needed. 10/10:popcorn::fire:Now excuse me while I reinstall Batman Arkham City:blush:
Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy was inspired by the gritty nihilism of The Long Halloween but The Batman fully captured it. The true future home of this film should be in between Thief and Manhunter in the Neo Noir Collection on The Criterion Channel instead of its inevitable dishonest placement in the DC hub on HBO Max next to Wonder Woman and Aquaman.
Had the potential to be the best Batman movie yet, because of its beautiful camera work and strong directing. And yes, Robert Pattinson is the best Batman actor. Sadly, the story is too much dragged out. Even if I loved Colin Farrell as Penguin, he was completly unnecessary for the story. Movie could have been 30 minutes shorter. Paul Dano was so good, but the focus should have been on him. I hope the second movie will erase these issues.
Worst of all the batman movies, Patterson's acting like all his movies is dry and lifeless warner has resorted to making superhero movies for a mature audience that takes away the shine of super heroes that kids carry forward. These movies have no future life in them and exist purely for the money they make now. Simply not worth watching and certainly not something you would be proud to own in your dvd/bluray collection.
Riddler is literally a Instagram live streamer when he isn't killing people
For those people coming to this movie expecting another MCU or Nolan action fest you'll be disappointed. This movie is supposed to be a dark, raw, gritty representation of Batman where he's new and inexperienced and still finding his way. The source material such as the Long Halloween was exactly like this (there was event a 2 part animated movie last year).
You have to approach this movie more as an art house movie with a dark cinematic tone that walks you through the story. I mean there were also a lot of great action scenes woven in such as the car chase, the end fights and such to make it fairly strong on the action but that's not what THIS representation is supposed to be.
If you're an American with in inability to be away from your phone for 5 minutes or you have the attention span of a Gnat this isn't for you. If you want a Batman experienced and confident, this isn't for you. If you want Nolan style large, bright visuals.....this isn't for you.
If you want something raw, dark and gritty with a focus more on Batman coming to terms with things and batman learning to be "The greatest detective" then you might enjoy it.
For a lot of people saturated in the MCU blanket who can't enjoy a more drawn out noir film then skip this movie.
As a fan of DC and Batman character I'm so disappointed. Bad fighting scenes, the car is a joke, the bike is bad, fighting with the thugs is just nothing special, Batman most of time is just walking and staying passive, no action, no stunts, no dynamic, NO GADGETS?! The car is really bad, Is it just boring. The story is good but is presented bad. Maybe with another director. This one looks like someone who never read a comic book or watch DC animations. Only thing that I like is the darkness of Gotham - it was presented accurate. Where was the cave?. About Robert Pattinson I have nothing to say - playing the role good. It's director's fault that the movie is so bad. If you a consider to watch it and you are a fan - don't expect too much, you will be disappointed
To put it simply: A work of art.
Really enjoyed the movie. Casting was surprisingly spot on. Colin was a superb choice for Penguin and you can tell enjoyed playing the role. However there was ZERO need for Catwoman and this would have shaved off 25+ mins of pointless footage, the movie would still have made sense without her. Music was modern with remnants of the classics which im sure we all appreciated. Cinematography was perfect! Next step is to seriously bulk up Batman and phase out the Emo. I would love to see Matts take on Professor Pyg :scream:. Hush has been set up for the next movie which will really need to be done incredibly well!
This is one of those movies that needs to be seen on the big screen. Absolutely captivating experience.
Finally, the batman we deserve so serious and with great detective skills. He brings fear in his enemies just by his presence. Can't wait to watch more of it's parts
I'm more an original Batman kind of guy, I think nobody has done it as well as Michael Keeton did it. I know there are a lot who would disagree, but Affleck as Batman was just so bad, Clooney as Batman was a total joke and Christian Bale himself is just an asshole and it comes out loud and clear in any movie he makes - he was the best since the original, but I still prefer the original.
I don't think they needed to shoehorn in a "white privilege" statement for the sake of being a social justice warrior, it was forced and obviously just for show and, to me, that is equally as racist as whomever says it believes white folks are. Basically, stating that white people have white privilege literally falls under the exact definition of racism.
One of the best, if not the best, Batman movies IMO. Great acting and script and a very good story. My two complaints would be that Pattinson doesn't pull off the Bruce Wayne part at all, and I mean at all, well, way to 'Goth' and that some of the dialogue / monologues were overly long and too muffled, dragging the movie out to nearly 3 hours where it could have probably lost 30 minutes or so. That said, I didn't find myself feeling overly bored with the lengthier dialogue but I did nearly reach for the F/Fwd button a couple of times. Definitely hope they do another.
It's good but no like the Chritopher Nolan's Trilogy. Poor in gadget and Gotam is not very differant than a normal city. The batmobil is ridiculous. The cast is accetable but no an very excellent interpretation, like Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson, Heath Ledger,... And the music except the main theme is very poor. The score by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard is more a very Batman's Theme.
If you compare this with Chris Nolan's Batman, this doesn't even stand a chance. However, this movie is pretty good. It is a dark movie, literally and figuratively! The action sequences are damn good, and Robert Pattinson is also good.
That aside, it's so damn long, like three freaking hours WHY! Especially when the first hour of the movie doesn't move the plot at all. I mean, they could've made it shorter.
Anyway, it's a great movie. If you enjoy "superhero" movies and also action movies, don't miss this one.
Definitely one of the greatest experiences in Cinema!
"The Batman" might not be a great film overall, but it's definitely the comic character's most convincing adaptation so far. We came to the point where there have been so many Batmovies that the audience's perception of the character is completely different from its comic counterpart. Matt Reeves' Batman is still aware of the expectations of the average moviegoers, but at the same time managed to take the character back to its roots as the world's best detective, offering us a slow-burning crime thriller where the real threat is the mob that pulls the strings in the filthiest and rainiest Gotham so far. Gritty and realistic without feeling pretentious, moody and stylized without getting cheesy. The Battinson hits hard when the situation requires, but we can see that after all, he is an insecure and tormented man in a ridiculous suit, a slave of his traumas and vices. And the best part is that we get all of this just by watching him in action, no need for pretentious dialogues or the same origin story all over again. The Bruce Wayne/Batman dichotomy has been strangely cut out, but it might be material for the sequels.
While the overall presentation is flawless, the plot and writing still need improvement. Like in "Batman Begins", the last thirty minutes suddenly raise the stakes to deliver an action-packed climax, but end up feeling strangely anticlimactic. It also felt like while essential plot points were often rushed, a lot of time got wasted spelling out things that were already crystal clear. Supporting characters don't get much screen time, and when something happens to them, it's hard to get emotionally involved. Still, it might be the first time I can't wait for the sequels!
since Keaton finally another good Batman solo film. 10/10
I sure hope Robert won't suck at this... Been disappointed before though... Ben and Christian actually set the mark high...
This may very well have been my favorite Batman.
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This film has some of the most beautiful cinematography, lighting direction, picture texture, bokeh, implementation of lens flair, and best framing I've ever seen. Absolute cinema.
Some of the dialogue and some of the more traditional scoring diverged from the film's best at times, but Pattinson in this film is definitely my favorite Batman, and Serkis, despite not being in it as much as the rest of the main cast carried his part with excellence, as usual. It's hard to compete with Michelle Pfeifer, but I did like Kravitz's Selina Kyle. And goddamn did she wear the hell of those outfits. Jeffrey Wright actually got to be more than "concerned, overly earnest NBC series guy", and Paul Dano knocked it out of the park IMO, and it's the kind of performance that could easily go awry. Turturro, if anything, has gotten even better with age, and Colin Farrell was unrecognizable, and not just from the prosthetics. Great performance, and I usually dislike yelling in films (though mainly older films, since they didn't really seem to know how to present it), but it was a necessary part of the performances, and even had me laughing a few times. The humor was subtle and situational and drawn directly from the performances.
I will definitely come back to this one. It's one of the most gorgeous films I've ever seen, to the point that I'm gushing.
It's alright but it's not as amazing as some people have made it out to be, with some people like AVGN saying that it has all the strengths of the Dark Knight and none of the weaknesses, i felt I needed to chime in a little.
The cinematography is a bit strange, there's a brown tint throughout most of the film that makes it look kind of ugly at times. The cast is alright for the most part with Zoe Kravitz being the only weak link, after all Catwoman is supposed to be beautiful, on the other hand Robert Pattison makes a great job and so does Paul Dano. Also, the movie is needlessly and tediously long.
Minor spoilers ahead: Batman is kind of stupid in this movie and so is commissioner Gordon, first Batman crashes out of nowhere in a crash that could easily have killed anyone and yet he only sustains minor injuries, it adds nothing to the plot and feels almost like comedic relief. Also, both Batman and Gordon chase the penguin because Batman is too stupid to figure out that "rat with wings" refers to him (world's greatest detective, everyone) and in the chase the penguin shoots at other cars including a gas truck, which should have left many dead let alone injured, just so when they finally catch him they don't even arrest him.
A strange twist of Batman story :thinking:
So many things don't make sense in this movie. I can't believe people actually like this movie. I also can't believe people like batman at all. I feel like they're just holding onto the fact that.. he's somewhat menacing. The "big" reveal of the batmobile, you can't even see it, he uses it... Once. What action scenes? When he punches 13 guys max the whole movie. How is he even a superhero? Everyone died, city was flooded.... What did he even do? He's not even a GREAT detective. Woah he noticed blood on the floor in the MIDDLE of the crime scene. Woah he uncovered a hidden rug AFTER a cop tells him what the weapons used for. Garbage. Only good that came out watching this was more proof that he's the worst, overrated, hyped "superhero".
It was good but he was the most depressed batman ever.
The worst of the Batman. Christian Bale was "THE BATMAN". There is no Batman feeling with Robert. Dark night trilogy was the best. This one doesn't have the action, cinematography, or the story. Simply waste of time. I would rate 5/10.
Robert Pattinson is now my favourite Batman! The movie itself, It’s such a well detailed and intense story. The visuals are amazing, the acting is incredible for the main and side characters. I love the feeling of suspense everytime Batman appeared or lurking in the shadows, the soundtrack was huge towards that also.
Largest complaint for this one - why were they all whispering all the time? Otherwise, ho-hum addition to the verse. Nothing new here. Carry on.
Amazing Movie. I actually liked it a lot more than any other Batman movies.
However, as it is, I still wouldn't rate it as a 10/10 and that has a pretty petty reason. Batman is weak af in this movie. He barely can take a few punks and always takes hits. Image him fighting Superman in other movies/comics/games. Its just ridiculously weak. If SUperman would look at THIS Batman, "The Batman" would mealt away within a few nanoseconds.
But damn, the sytle, Music, Actors, Grittyness and nearly everthing else was top notch
The worst Batman ever. Pattinson just sucks.
Like most superhero pics, The Batman lacks character development, filling the time with an overcomplicated case to solve before taking the time to make us care about solving it. If you like Marvel films, I assume you'll like this and v.v.
A great Batman movie that actually portrays the Riddler as a legit threat to Batman. I also like how it's a different take on Batman compared to other movies.
The story: A-
The atmosphere and mood: A+
The supporting casting: B-
Pattinson and his approach to moping/brooding: D-
Way too long....take out all the bad stuff and it would be about an hour.
Speak up, people! Why is everyone either whispering or talking so low? I had to crank the volume up just for the dialogue. There must've been a sleeping baby nearby in every scene..
I was reticent on watching this one. Maybe for the actor, maybe for the trailer, but I was surprised.
It's gritty-nitty as his character should. The script/story is quite well written, and this Riddler has some moves far darker than other takes on other movies - it's refreshing and captivating.
Dark gritty start for The Batman
I loved the movie, but I also kept thinking about how absurd it'd be to see some dude dressed like this fighting crime in real life.
The Netflix version only seems to run 2 hours and thank dog because I could not have handled any more of that awful script, substandard acting and randomly out of place cinematography. Pretty sure most of the shots are just there for the commercials.
Think I prefer the Nolan films, but this was still very enjoyable.
The atmosphere of Gotham was palpable - really dreary and dark-looking.
The Batman relies upon a prior familiarity with the myth. This allows the viewer to jump right into the action but sacrifices an emotional connection to the characters. The story is gothic and brooding with great cinematography; however, it does feel congested and struggles to build tension due to its many sub-plots.
Visually, it's very impressive. Although it tends towards style over substance in some scenes, making the action hard to follow and lose its tension compared to if it had been shot more conventionally.
I don't know why, but I found the story extremely hard to follow until about the halfway mark when some of the characters just spell it all out for us, which is lazy, but was definitely helpful.
The biggest selling point of this movie is the vibe of the whole thing: it's very moody, it's very noir. It makes sense for Batman, even if it doesn't really feel like it fully pays off in this rendition. Maybe they'll be a next one...
Here’s my “Quick and Dirty Review” of “The Batman.” Wow. Great story, beautiful visuals, and some of the most haunting and melodic scoring I've heard in a long time. You know those folks that say "why can't they make good comic book movies? One's where you care about the good guys and hate the bad guys and it all seems to actually matter and it's not just some dumb exercise in grandstanding morons punching each other for two hours?" Show them this movie. It's haunting and thoughtful and moving. There's the absolute bare minimum of "modern day" tropes and groupthink -- instead, you get a vigilante detective trying to solve an escalating series of gruesome and public murders. Everyone is great in this: Kravitz, Paul Dano, Peter Sarsgaard, a completely unrecognizable Colin Ferrell and Turturro. Serkis as Alfred is haunted by his failure to protect Bruce Wayne's parents, while Jeffrey Wright's Lt. Gordon is apparently the only cop in town who's not on the payroll of some crime lord or syndicate. But my standout was Pattinson, formerly Mr. Shiny Vampire, who brings something new and vulnerable and a little unhinged to the Caped Crusader. Everything here feels fresh and new: a grungy but logical bat cave, a saucy and completely realistic batmobile, the way the Batman uses fear and his ability to be anywhere as tools in an attempt to keep a lid on the bubbling, simmering cesspool that is Gotham City. 9 out of 10, in my Top 5 for 2022.
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This was a great Batman film. Robert Pattinson is a perfect fit for the role as is Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman. The movie is definitely not your average blockbuster movie but that is a good thing in the end. I especially loved the beautiful visuals and also the already iconic soundtrack by Michael Giacchino.