An above average Batman movie. And Batman was always my favorite vigilante franchise anyway.
The cons:
The pros:
Could perhaps have been an 8/10 but I'll deduct one point for it's excessive duration.
I was cautious about "The Batman", as it had the potential to be the best DC film in a long time or yet another pretentious flick. I'm happy to say it's the former, as "The Batman" went ahead and surpassed my expectations, squashing any doubts I might have had. Matt Reeves' arteur approach and understanding of the character's mythos blend together to create a crime thriller unburdened by the clichés of superhero cinema.
Robert Pattinson was an interesting choice to play the titular vigilante, one I had a feeling would go on to become the definitive live-action rendition, and so he did. His Batman flows smoothly between aggression and stoicism, with the former being more prevalent as we see a man completely absorbed by a futile crusade. A major theme is Batman's methodology in dealing with crime, and it's clear that the two years he has spent fighting it have done much damage both to himself and to Gotham. Bruce Wayne is hardly of any importance, this being a conscious choice. I should mention that the edgier portrayal of the billionaire might throw some people off a little, but I've yet to see someone go out of their way to complain about it. It seems that most of us revelled in the broken person that he is here, and we are likely to see his growth as the film series continues.
Gotham is another main character, the best realised version of the fictional city yet. A blend between the theatrics of Burton's and the grittiness of Nolan's movies, it's dripping in its own filth. Rain is a common companion, city lights haze amidst the shadows. Crime lurks everywhere, and so does Batman. A perfect parallel to him, the worst enemy of Gotham is its own people. Musically, "The Batman" utilises horror film cues, minimalistic melodies, and a few moodier licensed tracks. "Something in the Way", one of the best Nirvana songs, was prominently featured in trailers and the same is true for the film itself. I wasn't big on the overblown trailer rendition, but it's perfect as a backdrop to decadency of the city. Besides its tunes, "The Batman" has excellent sound design. One of my favourite moments was when the Batmobile showed up and the theatre bass went crazy.
"The Batman" is unique in that it is the first live-action film adaptation to put focus on our masked hero's title of World's Greatest Detective. The action remains at a smaller scale, the real thrills come from the mind games set forth by the incredible rendition of iconic villain the Riddler. A serial killer whose clues are all carefully planned out to put him at an advantage, it's enticing to see how the plot unravels. Each thread is carefully placed and plot conveniences are never an issue. The story took quite the risks, all while maintaining believability.
Plenty of subplots reside beside the main mystery and connect with it. "The Batman" is layered and rich, in my opinion justifying its lengthy runtime. Perhaps it could have cut down on some ten-twenty minutes, but it's not a major issue as each scene had its place and evoked interest. Zoe Kravits was great as Catwoman, perhaps the best we have seen on the screen, and her tale was gripping. Criminals like the Penguin and Falcone played a major part in the story and everyone around them brought details to Gotham's underworld. Andy Serkis played a great Alfred, while Jeffrey Wright was a fantastic Gordon.
I'll go as far as to say that "The Batman" is my second favourite Batman film. It does a great job at telling a proper Batman story, embracing the character's lore, while also adding many of its own strokes and being able to wrap up all of its themes in a satisfying manner. A must-watch for Batman fans and sceptics of superhero cinema. I cannot wait for the sequel, and am fully invested in what else Matt Reeves and co have planned.
A potentially great film being held hostage by its PG-13 rating and its messy, all over the places screenwriting.
By PG-13 I don't simply mean its visuals/goriness, but most importantly its dialogues, themes, and storytelling it tries to raise. Let me explain.
First, the dialogues.
The film opens with murder and Batman narrating the city's anxious mood. We get a glimpse of noir in this scene, but it soon falls flat due to a very uninteresting, plain, forgettable choice of words Batman used in his narration. Mind you, this is not a jab at Pattinson - Pattinson delivered it nicely. But there is no emotion in his line of words - there is no adjectives, there is no strong feelings about how he regards the city full of its criminals.
Here's a line from the opening scene. "Two years of night has turned me to a nocturnal animal. I must choose my targets carefully. It's a big city. I can't be everywhere. But they don't know where I am. When that light hits the sky, it's not just a call. It's a warning to them. Fear... is a tool. They think I am hiding in the shadows. Watching. Waiting to strike. I am the shadows." Okay? Cool. But sounds like something from a cartoon. What does that tell us about you, Batman?
Compare this to a similar scene uttered by Rorschach in Watchmen. "The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood. And when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. All those liberals and intellectuals, smooth talkers... Beneath me, this awful city, it screams like an abattoir full of retarded children, and the night reeks of fornication and bad consciences." You can say that Rorschach is extremely edgy (he is), but from that line alone we can tell his hatred towards the city, and even more so: his perspective, his philosophy that guides him to conduct his life and do what he does.
Rorschach's choice of words is sometimes verbose, but he is always expletive and at times graphic, making it clear to the audience what kind of person he is. Batman in this film does not. His words are always very safe, very carefully chosen, which strikes as an odd contrast to Pattinson's tortured portrayal of Batman as someone with a seemingly pent up anger. His choice of words is very PG-13 so that the kids can understand what Batman is trying to convey.
And this is not only in the opening scene. Throughout the film, the dialogues are written very plainly forgettable. It almost feels like the characters are having those conversations just to move the plot forward. Like that one encounter between Batman and Catwoman/Selina when she broke into the house to steal the passport or when Selina asked to finish off the "rat". They flow very oddly unnatural, as if those conversations are written to make them "trailer-able" (and the scenes indeed do appear on the trailer).
Almost in all crucial plot points the writers feel the need to have the characters to describe what has happened, or to explictly say what they are feeling - like almost every Gordon's scene in crime scene, or Selina's scene when she's speaking to Batman. It feels like the writers feel that the actors' expression just can't cut it and the audience has to be spoonfed with dialogues; almost like they're writing for kids.
Second, the storytelling.
Despite being a film about vengeance-fueled Batman (I actually like that cool "I'm vengeance" line) we don't get to see him actually being in full "vengeance" mode. Still in the opening we see Batman punching some thugs around. That looks a little bit painful but then the thugs seem to be fit enough to run away and Batman let them be. Then in the middle of the film we see Batman does something similar to mafias. Same, he just knocked them down but there's nothing really overboard with that. Then eventually in the car chase scene with the Penguin, Batman seem to be on "full rage mode", but over... what? He was just talking to Penguin a moment ago. The car chase scene itself is a bit pointless if not only to show off the Batmobile. And Batman did nothing to the Penguin after, just a normal questioning, not even harsher than Bale's Batman did to Heath's Joker in The Dark Knight - not in "'batshit insane' cop" mode as Penguin put it.
Batman's actions look very much apprehensive and controlled. Nothing too outrageous. Again, at odds with Pattinson's portrayal that seem to be full of anger; he's supposed to be really angry but somehow he still does not let his anger take the best of him. The only one time he went a bit overboard that shocked other characters is when he kept punching a villain near the end of the film. But even then it's not because his anger; it's because he injected some kind of drug (I guess some adrenaline shot). A very safe way to drop a parent-friendly message that "drug is bad, it can change you" in a PG-13 film.
And all that supposed anger... we don't get to see why he is angry and where his anger is directed at. Compare this to Arthur Fleck in Joker where it is clear as sky why Arthur would behave the way the does in the film. I mean we know his parents' death troubled him, but it's barely even discussed, not even in brief moments with Alfred (except in one that supposedly "shocking" moment). So... where's your vengeance, Mr. Vengeance? And what the hell are you vengeancing on?
Speaking of "shocking" moment... this is about the supposed Wayne family's involvement in the city's criminal affairs that has been teased early in the film. Its revelation was very anticlimactic: the supposed motive and the way it ended up the way it is, all very childish. If the film wanted the Wayne to be a "bad person", there's a lot of bads that a billionaire can do: tax evasion, blood diamond, funding illegal arms trade, fending off unions, hell, they can even do it the way the Waynes in Joker did it: hints of sexual abuses. But no, it has to be some bloody murder again, and all for a very trivial reason of "publicity". As if the film has to make it clear to the kids: "hey this guy's bad because he killed someone!" Which COULD work if the film puts makes taking someone's life has a very serious consequence. But it just pales to the serial killing The Riddler has done.
Even more anticlimactic considering how Bruce Wayne attempted to find a resolve in this matter only takes less than a 5 minute scene! It all involves only a bit of dialogues which boils down to how Thomas Wayne has a good reason to do so. Bruce somehow is convinced with that and has a change of heart instantly, making him looks very gullible.
And of course the ending is very weak and disappointing. First, Riddler's final show directly contradicts his initial goal to expose and destroy the corrupt elites. What he did instead is making the lives of the poor more difficult, very oxymoron for someone supposed to be as smart as him.
Second, the way Batman just ended up being "vengeance brings nothing and I should save people more than hurting people" does not get enough development to have him to say that in the end. Again - where's your vengeance? And how did you come to such character development if nothing is being developed on? And let's not get to how it's a very safe take against crime and corruption that closely resembles Disney's moralistic pandering in Marvel Cinematic Universe film.
Last, the visuals.
I'm not strictly speaking about gore, though that also factors in the discussion. The film sets this up as a film about hunting down a serial killer. But the film barely shows how cruel The Riddler can be to his victims. Again, back to the opening scene: we get it, Riddler killed the guy, but it does not look painful at all as it looks Riddler just knocked him twice. The sound design is very lacking that it does not seem what The Riddler done was conducted very painfully. Riddler then threw away his murder weapon, but we barely see blood. Yet when Gordon arrived to the crime scene, he described the victim as being struck multiple times with blood all over. What?
Similarly, when Riddler forced another victim to wear a bomb in his neck. The situation got pretty tense, but when the bomb eventually blow off, we just got some very small explosion like a small barrel just exploded, not a human being! I mean I'm not saying we need a gory explosion with head chopped off like in The Boys, but it does not look like what would happen if someone's head got blown off. Similarly when another character got almost blown off by a bomb - there's no burnt scar at all.
Why the hell are they setting up those possibly gory deaths and scars if they're not going to show how severe and painful these are? At least not the result - we don't need to see blood splattered everywhere - just how painful the process is. Sound design and acting of the actors (incl. twitching, for example) would've helped a lot even we don't see the gore, like what James Franco did in The 127 Hours or Hugh Jackman in Logan. In this film there's almost no tense at all resulting from those.
I'm not saying this film is terrible.
The acting, given the limited script they had, is excellent. Pattinson did his best, so did Paul Dano (always likes him as a villain), Zoe Kravitz, and the rest. Cinematography is fantastic; the lighting, angle, everything here is very great that makes a couple of very good trailers - perhaps one could even say that the whole film trades off coherency for making the scenes "trailer-able". The music is iconic, although with an almost decent music directing. And I guess this detective Batman is a fresh breath of air.
But all that does not make the movie good as in the end it's still all over the places and very PG-13.
Especially not with the 3 hours runtime where many scenes feel like a The Walking Dead filler episode.
If you're expecting a Batman film with similar gritty, tone to The Dark Knight trilogy or Joker, this film is not for you. But if you only want a live-action cartoon like pre-Nolan Batmans or The Long Halloween detective-style film, well, I guess you can be satisfied with this one.
"The Batman" is not a movie, it's actually just a four-part mini-series that is shown one after the other, in one piece, as a film. Just like "Dune" and many other new movies, that are unnecessarily long, tell the story extremely slow and seem to last forever. What's wrong with a 90 minute or at most 2 hour movie? What's wrong with a fast paced movie with lots of action? Why do movies suddenly have to be 3 hours long or more? This makes most movies boring. That goes for "Dune", "Tenet" and many others and it also goes for this movie "The Batman"! Had the film been an hour shorter, the simple story could have been told fascinatingly, as it should be in a movie. But now the film drags on like a soap opera, with long-winded shots of stares and boring dialogue that add nothing to it. Even the music, shamelessly borrowed from John Williams, cannot ad any to it. It can still be a good movie, when cut down to 90 minutes. In fact, only the last James Bond movie has managed to captivate the viewer for 3 hours, but all the other more than 2 hour films of recent times all bear the stamp of the HBO, NetFlix, Prime, Apple and Disney series: slowness, to keep the viewer streaming as long as possible, so they don't go to the competitor. For a 4 part miniseries I would have given "The Batman" 7 stars, for a 90 minute movie probably 8 starts, but now it deserves no more than 4.
This may be the Batman we deserved, but definitely not the one we need.
In another timeline it would have been pretty good. But did we really have to do a nth reboot/standalone Batman that tries to impose its own style ? Definitely not.
This is a death sentence to the DC-verse. Looks like they're giving up because they still weren't able to build a consistent universe even across so little movies. This clearly doesn't fit with the previous ones, and it is definitely too dark to build a universe around. What DC needs is to manage to make their movie part of something greater. And this clearly wasn't designed for that.
Now let's be clear, it is not a bad movie in itself, but that was not the movie DC, and we, needed right now.
And even the good parts are too excessively played on.
So what's good ? It's dark, very dark. It really builds its own style and atmosphere. Gotham really look the worst we've ever seen, but in a good way. The absolute full-on corruption of Gotham elites, all implicated in a grand scheme, potentially including Thomas Wayne is interesting. But it's too much, they did not have to also be drug addicts and implicated in call girls murders... Half the cops are also dirty, including top brass, but Gordon didn't even suspect anything ?
There is a lot of work on image, on camera work, etc.
But it's too much too. Rapidly you only see the work and not the result.
There are basically three kinds of shots in the whole movie.
1⃣, scenes where you can't see clearly what happens. Because it's either too far or too dark (from in the shadow, to full black momentarily lighted by gunshots), or too blurry.
2⃣, scenes shot in successions of extreme close-up. Not the into the action close-up, no. This, but then let's bring the camera still a bit closer, so that you can't see any context around the subject and even the subject doesn't quite fit into the frame. You know, to give an experimental/edgy feeling.
3⃣, a combination of both
This really cover 99% of the movie. It gives a distinctive visual style, and it gets ok results. But after a while it really is way too much in your face that that's what you see instead of the expected effect. And once you notice it (it really doesn't take long), that's basically all you can see in every single scene.
You're also warned early as the first minutes look more like an experimental movie than anything else. And the soundtrack is on the level. Lots of weird noise more than music.
The story is good, there's a good pace, a good progression,it's interesting to see Batman doing more detective work and a bit less of fighting. The Riddler's enigmas are good, not great.
The action is ok. Fights, car chase (though the way it was filmed it got very uninteresting very fast), gadgets. Expected, nothing crazy either.
What's less good ?
The characters.
I love Andy Serkis, but probably one of the worst Alfred ever.
Batman is actually pretty ok, even good, but I guess it's easier.
However Pattinson as Bruce Wayne sucks. At least they tried to match the character to him, it's not the usual billionaire playboy, more of a recluse emo teenager. That means is not badly acted, just that there's not a single moment where you think "that's Bruce Wayne I'm seeing"
Catwoman knows how to fight a bit, but mostly the character is a sexy sexist cliche from 30 years ago. There probably was a lot more to be done here.
The Riddler is pretty different from what we're used to. First he looks more like Bane than anything else. Despite his supposedly high intellect, he has clearly an inferiority complex (instead of the opposite). He engages physically with his victims and is prone to bursts of violence. Mostly a crazy pathetic loser, that probably gets a high from his number of tiktok followers, a bit of an incel mixed with a Jan 6 rioter. Pretty disappointing. (Note that Paul Dano is very good though, but crazy psychos are his thing)
Gordon is good though.
Penguin: good actin but useless.
Not sure where this is in the timeline, but it's pretty weird that basically all cops are against Batman except Gordon that even brings him on crime scenes. I mean, all the police is against it. How the hell do they let this huge ass signal in the sky, that seems to be on a lot ? Gordon does not have the authority to do that, or bring him on scenes.
It's supposed to be dark, and it is pretty violent, but none of the gruesome parts are ever shown. Not that we really need gore, but it is weird how it is totally ignored. A guy has supposedly his face eaten by rats, but we don't even see a rat. Alfred is involved in a explosion at a few centimeters distance and in the hospital he doesn't even have a burnt hair, let alone skin. This one is really weird. Real is shot in the chest and just walks around in water a few minutes later. Etc.
Not sure whether the Riddler's followers army is supposed to be a Jan.6 reference or not.
tl;dr: A very dark atmosphere and original visual style that could be good but are so very overplayed that they become a hindrance. An ok story with meh characters. As expected Pattinson works as Batman but is an horrible Bruce Wayne. Standalone movie that can in no way fit into the current or any future DCverse.
There's a lot to talk about with this film. I mean, how can there not be when it's almost three hours long.
First, I want to discuss two comps. One that might feel obvious, and another less so. That is Watchmen and Dune. There's superficial similarities, such as length, with all three of these films running 2.5+ hours. In the case of Watchmen, you could also point to the narration based on the journaling of a masked vigilante. On top of that, there's the excellent production design, costumes, and cinematography. But the reason I point to these films as comps has less to do with those things, and more to do with the overall approach. All three films are heavily atmospheric. Oozing with style. If I had to label the category, I would call them auteur blockbusters. This is a relatively uncommon pairing due to the fundamental conflict between the risk associated with a singular artistic vision and the expense associated with big budget productions. In the crowded superhero genre, there's a lot of films that feel made-by-committee. Marvel has a reputation for their second unit directors, who film the action sequences for every MCU film. I don't know how accurate that reputation is, but the MCU certainly feels like it's struggled against a same-y quality that results in some of their films not having a lasting impact. The fact that several auteur directors have joined and subsequently abandoned MCU projects (e.g. Edgar Wright with Ant-Man or Scott Derrickson with the Doctor Strange sequel) certainly seems supportive of this conflict. Meanwhile, The Batman (and Watchmen and Dune) feel like they went all in on a singular artistic vision and, for the most part, I think they were better for it.
Getting into the actual film, Robert Pattinson continues to impress in his post-Twilight career, making for both an excellent Batman and Bruce Wayne. That said, I was somewhat disappointed that we didn't get more of the latter. Thinking back to Batman Begins, Christian Bale's portrayal of the playboy billionaire got plenty of screen time, with numerous memorable and character developing scenes. By comparison, Robert Pattinson seems to spend most of his time in the mask. This isn't a major issue, as ultimately we're here to see the caped crusader, but I do wonder how things could have looked with a slightly more balanced ratio. I was also impressed with Paul Dano's Riddler. His costume was suitably creepy, his dialogue suitably psychotic, and his performance suitably chilling.
As for the story, it didn't exactly blow me away, but it gets the job done. For such a long film, the plot actually seemed to move pretty quickly, feeling very comic book-esque as it jumped from one clue to the next as Batman tries to solve Riddler's ultimate puzzle. While I generally enjoyed the detective work, there are plenty of instances where suspension of disbelief is threadbare as some questionable logical leaps take us from one location to the next. Also, the culmination of the story didn't really land for me. Exposition dumps came fast and loose toward the finale, in one instance with contradictory reveals seemingly coming back to back (i.e. a character gives devastating news in one scene, and the very next scene a different character says "nope, that was wrong"). Additionally, Falcone's ultimate villainy felt like something of a false-twist, making the whole rat investigation feel like it didn't go anywhere interesting. Luckily, none of these problems are egregious enough to drag down the solid foundation.
Speaking of the length, I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that the film was longer than necessary. It's jam packed with lingering shots, to the point where you could probably cut 20 minutes without losing a single line of dialogue or plot point. Now, that's not to say that I would recommend such extreme measures. There's merit in letting certain moments hang, and the cinematography alone justifies plenty of these shots. That said, I still think some were overdone and that prudent trimming could be justified.
Some quick final thoughts. While my typical anti-narration stance remains, I wasn't too bothered by its implementation here. In fact, I thought the opening monologue and set-up with the various criminals all afraid of a potential encounter with Batman was well executed. Finally, regarding the action, I thought the hand to hand combat through most of the film was excellent. However, I do think there were a couple non-hand to hand moments that got a little over the top, such as the Batmobile chase that culminated in ramping off of a truck (although I will acknowledge that the upside down follow up shot, with Batman silhouetted by the explosion as he approached the Penguin, looked badass). Additionally, the finale set-piece with all of the shooters in the stadium rafters was a bit questionable, as it had Batman taking a lot more direct gunfire than you'd expect.
Brain dump of thoughts... In the order they come out in.
Overall, I'm not unhappy I saw it. It holds no rewatch value for me though. Far too slow, far too uninteresting when it had played out. And if they make a sequel, I'd catch it a few years down the line on TV I suppose.
6.5/10
To be honest, this is a really good movie. Hang on? So why did I only give it 2 out of 5 stars? Well, this is really personal but, to me, it is not a good Batman movie. I really had problems writing this review because it is a very good movie. I just did not like it as a Batman movie.
The movie is really dark, gritty and noir. Not really a problem. It works for some movies. But it is also quite slow at the beginning and the first quarter of the movie was actually boring. Remember, this is a three hour movie so a quarter is more than half an hour of “boringness”.
The “boringess” was broken up by a pretty cool car chase. Some people seem to not really like the batmobile and I have to say that it was not very inspired but it was not all bad either. Unfortunately the movie turned rather boring for a while again after that.
The movie tries to bring out more of the detective part of Batman than the previous movies, which is fine, but there is just too much moping around with Batman / Bruce Wayne walking around oozing sadness all around him.
Actually, this brings us to my main gripe with this movie. The choice of actor for the Batman is just wrong for me. He is more like a sad puppy than the Batman. The script that makes him mope around, have emotional outbreaks and, occasionally, being downright stupid like just staring dumbfounded when explosives go off in his face does not really help of course.
To me the Selina Kyle character had more charisma than the Batman, especially when the Batman was in his Bruce Wayne alter ego.
And I really, really dislike that twist about Bruce’s parents. That was such a lazy Hollywood writer hack thing to do just to create (unwanted) drama.
Then we have the Riddler. Compared to the charismatic villains that we have come to expect he is just a sad little psychopath with a bunch of equally sad fanatical internet followers.
Now, all of this would have worked great if it had been a movie about some, unspecified, vigilante. The movie is really well done. The detective story, the action (especially towards the end) and the noir setting would have worked great. Even at its three hour bloated length it would have been great although cut down to two hours or a bit more would have been even better. If it had not been a Batman movie!
It feels like the Batman universe got its own Watchmen remix, with Robert "Edward Cullen" Pattinson's emo boy Bruce Wayne in the spotlight, and I have so many issues.
First, I really wish the universe could get its own stories already, instead of remixing, for the umpteenth time, the characters' backgrounds, origins, roles, and by and large their looks as well. It's impossible to keep track of, and it's tiresome to re-learn every time a new movie comes along. As if the universe didn't have more than enough characters (some very colourful ones at that) to use.
Second, I'm not sure Batman needed a Watchmen remix, to be honest. The setup just doesn't work, especially when Batman doesn't even has his own companions (except for on-again-off-again Selina Kyle, ofc), and it's just the sole hero in a single city against a bunch of loonies, deep diving into his own past yet again. The length kinda fits (minus the ultimate cut), everything else though...
Third, I'm sorry but Robert Pattinson is just a weird choice. I didn't really get just how old Bruce is supposed to be here from the movie itself; and his characterisation sure doesn't help either, looking (and acting) like a bad stereotype of the emo teen - the rare one or two times when he isn't, he comes off an old man. And as Batman... this "slowmo" approach kills it. As if every step he takes is a struggle, and yet we're supposed to believe he's capable of all the stunts and fighting? There's no immersion.
Fourth, the ... tech, I guess? I'm so confused as to where we're supposed to be: in some parts, it looks like there's all the high tech computer stuff - and then in other parts it's like everything's almost analogue, not even digital. The range is really jarring here and only serves to further erode immersion. Especially the Riddler's little videos and some of his other stuff (hell, even his look) felt like they came from some 90s VHS movie. Absolutely bizarre.
Fifth, the rating indeed. I said it's a Watchmen remix with Edward Cullen - this is why. I'm sure I wasn't the only one to immediately be reminded of Rorschach's opening monologue: it feels like they tried very hard to imitate that... except it got utterly destroyed by sounding exactly like some inane rambling from Twilight. And, well, it is indeed that guy, from that movie, as it later turns out: in more ways than one. But that's not the only crime committed in keeping the rating this low. There's corruption, there's an outright den with all the bad guys, there's regular gangsters, there's this absolute mastermind of a psycho doing what he does, and... we barely get to see any of it, save for some explosions featuring a lot of fire because that's easy to make big and can conveniently cover up everything. Yet more immersion ruined.
To reiterate: I really wish Hollywood stopped trying to reboot and remix Batman (yet again, after, what? three movies in the previous attempt?), there's more than enough material to establish a foundation and work from there. But to add to it: I really wish Hollywood stopped trying to reimagine these universes in more "realistic" ways, too. There's no need for everything to be so gritty, for everything to have its root in reality, for everything to be politically correct and oh-so-woke. Especially when it comes to superhero flicks: these are meant to entertain, to let the viewer switch their brain off for a few hours and just enjoy a movie. If I wanted a documentary or some real life nonfiction drama, there's plenty of those to choose from.
"The Batman" is the latest installment in the long-running series of films based on the DC Comics character of the same name. Directed by Matt Reeves and starring Robert Pattinson as the Dark Knight, the movie offers a fresh and intriguing take on the iconic character.
The movie tells the story of a young Bruce Wayne as he begins his journey to become the legendary crime-fighter known as Batman. The story is well-written, with a mix of mystery and intrigue that keeps the audience engaged throughout the film. Pattinson does a great job as the brooding and intense version of Batman, bringing a new layer of depth to the character that we haven't seen before. The supporting cast, including Zoë Kravitz as Catwoman and Paul Dano as the Riddler, also give strong performances.
The film is visually stunning, with incredible set design and special effects that transport the audience to the gritty streets of Gotham City. The action scenes are well choreographed and thrilling to watch. The score, composed by Michael Giacchino, is also a standout, adding to the overall atmosphere of the film.
One of the highlights of the film is how it explores the psychological and emotional side of Batman as he navigates his way through the corruption and crime that plagues Gotham City, it shows a more human side of the superhero making it more relatable.
However, the film isn't without its flaws. Some of the plot elements feel a bit convoluted and some of the subplots don't get as much attention as they could have. Also, the story is a little bit darker that some of the other Batman movies, this could be a pro or con depending on the preferences of the audience.
Overall, I would give "The Batman" an 8 out of 10. It's a fresh and exciting take on the iconic character that offers a new perspective on the hero's journey. It's a well-made film with a great cast and impressive visuals, although it has some narrative issues. Fans of the comics and the Batman character should definitely check it out.
“Fear is a tool. They think I’m hiding in the shadows but I am the shadows. I wish I could say that I’m making a difference but I don’t know. They might all roll together in a rush. Behind the mask. Sometimes in the morning, I have to push myself to remember everything that happened.”
Absolute cinema! Honestly, so incredible. The film-making from Matt Reeves is so excellent and well crafted, with such skill you forget you are watching a superhero movie. Dark, but with a slick style. The more I think about it, the more I love it. Just from the opening scene with the Riddler and Batman’s voice-over monologue while we see the ongoing crime in Gotham City, I knew we were all in for something spectacular.
The movie is three hours long, but I could watch a six-hour version of this.
Robert Pattinson as Bruce Wayne, but mostly Batman, is the perfect casting, and from day one of his castings, I knew he was going to bring it, and he did! He did some fantastic acting from his physicality and eyes that captured his thoughts and feelings. I liked his Batman voice, quiet and whispery. Not too forced like bale nor too advanced like Affleck. His Batman/Bruce Wayne, with no other way of describing it, is emo, but then again, Batman as a character is the definition of emo when you think about it. His long, messy, dark, and damp black hair hung over his face, giving his vision the equivalent of window blinders. His skin is as pale as a British introvert. He wears dark eyeliner under his Batman mask, and whenever he takes it off, the eyeliner smudges due to sweat and heat underneath the cowl. Whenever he is in the suit, he never breaks his detective’s eye, but when out of the suit, he cannot make eye contact with anyone. Before he appears, you hear his heavy footsteps on the rock-hard pavement, and then him slowly coming out of his darkness was just... goosebumps. The way he approaches criminals is no different from Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers.
There’s a thrilling car chase that ends with the vehicle flipped upside down and from the POV of the criminal, you see the black silhouette of what looks like a bat-man creation, with fire in the background from the aftermath of the chase, almost like IT came from hell, as it moves closer to the vehicle, and the way it moves its body is so unnatural. Of course, that scene is the Penguin and Batman car chase, with the POV from Penguin and the creation being Batman. It’s terrifying just reading that description with no context of the scene itself, and that’s why it’s so brilliant.
You get a lot of depth with this version, the unseen trauma. Pattinson is the most Batman that ever was and one of the best.
Also, his Batmobile is a killer!
Zoë Kravitz as Selina Kyle/Catwoman was another stand-out and the heart of the movie. I liked her characterization of a thick-skinned yet vulnerable and feminine. The scenes between her and Pattinson were the best part of the movie, as their chemistry was on point. Her character could’ve easily fit in a Brian De Palma movie.
Jeffrey Wright as Jim Gordon is so good in the role, and the dynamic duo between him and Pattinson brought some surprising comedic moments. While this Gordon isn’t quite the police commissioner, we see a different side to the character; the no-nonsense type that’s devoted.
Paul Dano as the Riddler was a mixture of creepiness but still maintains the sinister sense of humour of the troubled intellectual character. I also liked his costume, as it felt homemade and fit this type of movie. This version of the Riddler is inspired by the Zodiac killer, a real-life Riddler who sent out ciphers that were hard to crack. Fifty years after the case, and only last year that one of the ciphers was cracked. In the same vein as the Zodiac, he taunts the police and leaves none of his DNA at the crime scene. So, it makes this version of the character scary because it's something that could happen in real life. This version of Riddler is straight-up Jigsaw.
Andy Serkis isn't in the movie that much, but he delivers a solid portrayal of the trustworthy Alfred. The relationship between him and Bruce is "icy", a tragic withdrawn situation that I hope mends in the future. So icy that if these two ever crossed paths in a hallway, things would be awkward. However, there is a beautiful and moving scene, which takes place in a hospital, after Alfred stains injuries after a failed bomb attack from the Riddler, and during that scene where these two finally talk because, despite the rocky relationship, Bruce still cares for him. He thought that he mastered his fear, but at that moment, he feared that he lost him. A touching scene and Serkis was brilliant in it.
Colin Farrell as the Penguin is honestly one of the best transformations in movie history, and yes, of all time. I mean, it's been three months since the movie came out, and I still can’t believe that’s him. He is unrecognizable not only for the make-up but his voice as well. The make-up artist behind this work did an incredible job. Both Farrell and the make-up artist deserve high praise here.
John Turturro as Falcone, who rarely got shown in the marketing, is a surprise standout here and has not got enough credit. What a presence he brings to the movie, and I liked his take on the ruthless mobster.
Peter Saarsgard is another actor that isn’t getting talked about because he acts the hell out of the role of the corrupt Gil Colson. The scene with the bomb collar was intense, and Saarsgard was great in it. It felt like a scene from a “Saw” movie where the villain is in complete control. I mean, there's not a single weak actor in this movie.
I loved the score from Michael Giacchino; very epic, Gothic, but jampacked with emotion. There is some distinct character work with compelling themes from Batman, Riddler, and Catwoman, especially from the bat himself, whose score perfectly captures the tragedy and the heroism. His sounds commanding, yet unresolved, almost like Bruce Wayne’s trauma. Catwoman’s theme sounds like a classic noir film when the mysterious woman enters the detective’s office late at night. And the Riddler shares a couple of familiarity with Batman’s theme, in terms of suspense, build-up, and a grand feel to it. Although with an ominous and mysterious tone to it.
I liked how detailed the movie was, whether that’s characterization, acting, writing, directing, etc. I can tell that everyone who worked on this movie truly cared and put a lot of thought into every scene, and I love that so much. I bet on a re-watch there will be new things to pick up on.
The cinematography is the best part of the movie. No other superhero movie in recent times has looked this well-crafted, so captivating, with its incredible atmosphere, darkness, and lighting. Cinematographer Greg Frasier keeps outdoing himself.
Everything else from a technical standpoint is outstanding. The sound work is tremendous and adds to the immersion. The production design, costume, editing, and direction were all mwah!
I liked how dirty and grounded Gotham City looked, where everything is so cramped together, how it was always raining in this city, or how everything always looks so damp. This Gotham feels diseased, old yet new at the same time. Even the day scenes looked like a stormy evening. Despite that, that does not take away its strange beauty.
The movie is more character-driven than anything else, diving into the detective side. Sure, there is action, which is great, but it’s character moments that stuck with me the most. I must admit the third act made me teary-eyed. It was a beautiful scene that involved character growth. While the movie can be dark, brutal, and at times wickedly funny, on the other hand, there is also a sense of hope. Because despite the bleakness of this world, here you have a broken and flawed man who endured all the pain, trauma, and rage, and finally had the strength to put aside it and put himself out there for those who suffer.
So yeah, I liked the movie a lot.
Overall rating: HE IS VEGENECE!
The tricky thing about reviving a long-lived franchise is, it’s always going to be compared to its predecessors. And, as the caped crusader goes, that history is awfully long and speckled. Tim Burton dealt with this when he helmed the 1989 iteration, dodging complaints that it was so fundamentally different from the Adam West camp of twenty years prior. Christopher Nolan fought an uphill battle in overcoming the damage inflicted by Joel Schumacher’s missteps. Now, in the wake of Ben Affleck’s turn beneath the cowl, Matt Reeves faces a different, but similar fight in justifying his vision of a spandex-clad detective in the crumbling urban decay.
Reeves gives us a younger Batman, less seasoned and polished than the Kilmer/Clooney/Affleck years, but also not a rookie. This isn’t an origin story; this bat’s reputation has already been established in Gotham and he’s fostered a tenuous working relationship with certain members of the police force. He’s visible enough to draw the attention of a violent, counter-culture master criminal who addresses hints and clues like love letters and sprinkles them around his prolific crime scenes. But he lacks that grand, accomplished sense of supreme confidence: a patrolman who’s still learning his beat, he makes mistakes and takes lessons from them. Actually, he makes a lot of mistakes. This Batman is neither impervious in a fight nor unmatched in an intellectual sense. He often seems like he’s out of his depth, reacting and improvising to events beyond his control. That can be humanizing, but it also limits his aura. In terms of raw energy and dramatic appearances, this rendition ranks near the bottom. I might even call him dull.
That’s a problem with the whole film, in fact. It has inspired and effective moments, isn’t demonstrably bad, but constantly feels clinical and lethargic. There’s very little dramatic spectacle, so I was never wowed. For all the boastful talk about emphasizing the detective aspect of his character, Batman himself doesn’t actually solve much. Alfred cracks most of the riddles, and when he’s eventually indisposed, the Riddler complains that his counterpart isn’t getting to the answers fast enough. Robert Pattinson’s take on the leading role is... okay. He looks the part while in costume, but often overacts, and his take on the brooding Bruce Wayne, as I’d feared, falls on the wrong side of the emo spectrum. Paul Dano’s Se7en-influenced Riddler is a fresh reimagining, but the conclusion of his story (or lack thereof) leaves an empty feeling. Hints and implications are dropped all over the place - about Gordon, the Penguin, Catwoman and other noteworthy rogues who shall remain nameless - but none go beyond the level of superficial winks. Batman and Robin’s Mister Freeze, for all his cheesy one-liners and bad costume effects, had a more cohesive, satisfying story than any of these characters.
I don’t want to give the wrong impression. This isn’t a bad effort. I admire its influences, and its chutzpah for wearing them loudly on its chest. Gotham is dark and gritty, its corrupt politicians serving as an appropriate mirror to their real-life counterparts. The costumes and set designs look great. But, in a strange way, I feel that it tries too hard to match the execution of 2019’s Joker without really grasping what made that movie tick or why the two should be distinctive. Both are deathly serious, heavily visual, mood-reliant character pieces, but where Joker limits its iris to a small, tight group of characters, The Batman is overwhelmed by its cast. Joaquin Phoenix takes us on a private journey in the former film, and it’s meaningful when his arc is resolved. Pattinson, by comparison, never progresses beyond looking mopey in the rain.
This was satisfying movie.
Highlights:
1. The mood: love the change to previous Batman movies. Love the characters concepts and communication.
2. The visuals: love the camera work
3. The sounds / soundtrack: love the this, so fitting to the mood. There is one tune that always evoked in me Westworld :-)
4. Villains (actors and characters): Paul Dano, Jahn Turturro, Colin Farrell - awesome acting, awesomely written characters.
extra: the pacing combined with the moon and visuals was 90% right, only in the end I felt already tired (by it and of it), yet still would rate it as very positive.
Lows:
1. Cast: Robert Pattison. a) he just looks weird b) he looks frail, whole movie I could not associate him with Batmen especially one that takes so much punishment in the movie c) His character as it was written was awesome, but at the end the melodramatic (1 emotion only) diminishes character growth at the end.
2. Cast: Zoe Kravitz, while she had more opportunity for showcasing more of acting, she was not able to draw me to her character. Again the visual frailness was disconnecting for with the action on the screen.
3. Ending: The Riddlers final plot felt to me very weak and not dangerous (rising the stakes). As well as the character growth was very moot (which is kind of ok, taking into consideration the whole pacing, mood, and narrative, but it takes something away)
This Batman movie was good. (But not for the reasons you think)
As a person that isn't really a fan-boy/fan-girl for any of the actors and I was just watching this for the average interest of "what did they do with this film?". I wasn't very impressed overall. All the actors in this film did a fine job, and the casting was well done. The issues;
-1 how sporadic the plot of the movie was, Batman was just all over the place, and I wouldn't say it's an issue for the audience, but an issue for pacing, keeping a direction and theme.
-2 This movie was trying to be serious and there weren't any real jokes for puns- which makes sense.. but in my opinion, they utterly failed to make it serious. I was watching this film with my family and we were laughing our asses off, there is a comical amount of police in this movie, and the way batman fights was very cliche, and just the way batman's cape looks like a trash bag.. I couldn't take it seriously.
-3 This movie was missing alot, I'm used to a batman that's put into an impossibly critical situation because he is one guy against them all, or just the lonely (I don't mean emo, I mean lonely in a literal sense) aspect of Batman, it's basically him vs all of gothem, but Cat women acts like she's his side kick, cat women is a slinky love intrest, not half the damn plot.
-4 This movie was failing in having a good soundtrack, cause it was very underwhelming. Music is extremely important to convey a feeling, or how a character feels in the moment. The soundtrack was basically background noise with about two chimes of a cello every 5 seconds, that is NOT music. And the main song they picked "Something in the way" it may half had the perfect lyrics for Batman himself, but the song was not good enough to play for long stretches of time, the music only barely fit the theme of the film (The damned song sounds like an emo garage band.)
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself by ranting. But when something is called "The batman" I would hope that everyone is a side character and Batman is in a pitch black spot light. I mean just look at the cover, they got everyone on there like it's a starwars movie.. IT'S BATMAN. I guess it's worth a watch so you know what I'm talking about.
I woulld write something longer, but I got school to do.
Ciao
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For me this was a miss..... I'm not a big super hero movie fan, but I do love Batman. He got me through some tough times with grieving and will always be important to me.
To me, Batman represents balance. The visual balance of day vs night, dark vs light, even the giant mansion above ground vs the equal cave below. Also the emotional balance.... someone having every material possession as Wayne, but only feeling fulfillment through vengeance and literally restoring the balance of power to Gotham City.
It also seems like the city either loved him and thought he was a hero or hated him and exiled him until they realized that he was useful. . in this movie they didn't seem to like him, but they allowed him to do his thing
To me this movie was unbalanced..... it was too dark..... Even when Pattinson was Wayne he was dark.
I didn't love the batmobile.... he hardly brought out any new gadgets.... and his batsuit was seemingly indestructible.. it can stop bullets, but he should still feel the force of the blow.... I personally would break some bones if I hit a bridge at 80mph.
I did appreciate some of the nods to the Adam West Batman with the dumb jokes, and Kravitz and Dano are perfection.
If you watch it as a normal action movie its okay, but if you watch it as a Batman movie, I find it disappointing
you have to keep in mind this is two years after he has become the batman already there is already a Batman sign in the sky its not the start of batman
1- Batman walking trough the main door in all the places. Batman supposed to be hidden not seen by many coming trough the window and disappearing again, [spoiler] not like it was here going with Gordon trough the hall, going trough the main entrance in falcons bar [/spoiler]
2- his gadgets, [spoiler]he didn't use anything beside his grappling hook few times, instead of using smoke bombs he made the fire extinguisher explode, and what are the sikes on his arm that Blade would use to kill vampires [/spoiler]
3- no contrast between batman and Bruce Wayne, yes batman is glooming depressed dark mood, but Bruce Wayne is a character that's happy acting cowardly playing as if he only cares for money and girls when he is in public
4- asking other people as batman who is this person who is that person. Instead of using his detective skills and computer he literally goes asks [/spoiler]penguin who is this woman on the picture [/spoiler], wow very batman like
Edit: I couldn't get spoiler marking to work so I spoiler marked everything
I like how Batman is depicted with a naive and loser POV from his rich high tower, a rich trust fund baby called out by both sane (Catwoman) and insane (Riddler) people while he remains oblivious until the consequences are literally flooding the city. While he uses the idea of Batman as a mantle for him to process trauma, his obliviousness to his own celebrity status and image creates unintentional side effects from his parents' death hogging the spotlight away from the people that mattered to his own nebulous idea of "vengeance" being co-opted by the goons, a heel-turn realization that eventually changes the rack focus, ultimately leading to a wider perspective and a selfless act of cutting the cord and helping others. Hope is more important than his idea of justice, in the end, empathy being the missing piece throughout. Instead of being a voyeur like Riddler during his master plan (Riddler binoculars on the mayor, Batman binoculars on Catwoman), he switches to being on the ground to help, no longer from his high castle.
It's interesting how this arc plays out. At the beginning, it plays into this "badass" idea comic book fans love to gloat about Batman of striking fear into crime, but the way it's portrayed is frightening to everyone. It's a better criticism of Batman's fascism than BvS was going for, showcasing his fear to people who don't even deserve it, such as kids doing vandalism who probably believe the system is failing them, but to him at the beginning crime all looks the same.
Honestly this film goes harder than Phantasm on the tragedy that is Bruce Wayne. They're inseparable by choice, to the point that Bruce basically is Batman even when not in the costume, a social recluse who can barely function in real life, listening to emo music and having rings around his eyes, a night owl to the extreme. The struggle is there even as Batman, literally smashing his face on a truck.
There are some contradictions throughout thematically, however. It's weird how it goes between "it's the WHOLE system, all cops are pigs" to "it's just bad apples" simultaneously, displaying a somewhat cringe centrism. Catwoman by the end basically points it more to systemic (and Batman and Thomas Wayne's criticism of thinking they know better and actually makings things worse isn't undercut, which by itself is also institutional criticism), although it still feels like they could've done more. Maybe out of their hands by the studio or this as far as they could get away with vs. the producers (it almost felt like a struggle for Catwoman to outline her "eat the rich" mentality). Gotham itself is a mess of contradictions and it's OK to let the viewer lie between it all I guess.
Also the relationship between Catwoman and Batman is kinda slimy and male-centric. Catwoman, while great as a character, functionally falls to Batman's controlling force with a forced romance in the second act. Sure they're both suffering from trauma but Batman was literally using her despite it all, it at least understands the power gap more in the third act.
The end of the second act also spins its wheels a bit too much, the mystery pace kinda suffers a bit from focus and scenes get too drawn out (Riddler just disappears for a while). The movie could've been 20 minutes shorter. Doesn't stop it from having a terrific third act since most blockbusters have kinda sucked on that note
Although speaking of Riddler, master class. Probably my favorite villain in a Batman film.
The aesthetic was gorgeous. I love its color grading and architecture, still thinking of the Wayne tower and its metal grates, goth hallways, and insane attention to detail that gets blurred out intentionally in the frame for most of the movie by Bruce's obliviousness to the world. It also keeps a balance of evoking the black/white movies while still being colorful, more of flooded black and oranges. I think of that sequence with Penguin not mainly for the fight itself (which to me was a bit messy) but moreso the flooded orange of the fire being the only color creating a sorta gradient on the black car, and how the flare at the end matches that aesthetic, that one color illuminating Batman leading everybody else to exit the frame, like a light in the darkness. Lovely
The music.... Giacchino just beat out his Incredibles score for me, masterful work with motifs, percussion, and rhythm. His mastery of percussion and horns during the lights out Batman hallway fight and how the horns blast, how well edited the percussion beat subtly goes through the Penguin chase and other fight sequences, Batman doesn't quite have a dance like Hong Kong films but the music makes it come close. The timpani and strings are so well used!!! Great use of Ave Maria both as soundtrack and score. Catwoman's motif? Amazing.
The performances are great all around. Finally a film with Turturro that I don't hate him. He's well restrained and perfectly cast, his dickish attitude now a strong point making him very memorable with very little screen time, much like Farrell in the same film. Kravitz made me the closest to tearing up with how she visually handles conflicting emotions, I still think about that scene with the voicemail where her eyes are all over the place and has trouble keeping it all together. Dano as Riddler is terrific.
Yep, this is my fav Batman film now.
Most of the comments left before mine were made before the movie even was made or released.
WARNING: This movie is very, very dark for DC. It is true to the original Batman comic books and the more recent gothic ones. It is not for kids. If you are thinking about taking kids under 13, go see it first. I don't think most parents want their kids seeing this.
Next, comic book geeks, been one since I was 9, will really appreciate this. It's amazingly true to the Kane Batman while keeping with the newer darker comics. DC has stepped up its movie game here. I didn't think Patterson was a good choice, but I was converted after 20-25 minutes in. I was a little disappointed in the Halle Berry lookalike. They usually change up the look of the Catwoman with any new Batman and don't repeat a look, but realized why at a very specific point in the movie. She's really good, so it works.
It's very long. but fast moving and just fantastic cinematography. The script is really good also but all the campiness that really started with the 60's television show is gone. There's nothing funny about this. It's action, it's drama, it's crime, it's disturbing, it's gritty, and it's dark, very dark. And it still maintains the constant that Batman is anti gun. Very few versions even mention this anymore.
Which brings me to the messages in there, very quick references to current time, without beating the horse about it. I haven't seen any bad reviews, but today is only the second night. If you're anti woke, if you really don't think you're racist but are (still say racist stuff. have been accused before, etc), this movie may trigger you. Two couples got up and left after the one scene and it was just one line. They didn't make a ruckus thankfully, maybe they did out in the concession area. Don't know, don't care. If you still go see it, well, keep your Karens in your head. Everyone else paid to see it also and don't care about what you think of one scene.
This is in many ways the exact movie that The Lego Batman Movie made fun of.
So, I can totally understand if this film reads like self-parody to some (I'll admit, the gravely film noir detective voice over was a bit much, it's been parodied to death at this point), but I'd argue that it's overall a refreshing take on the character in a well thought out story that includes some excellent performances. Paul Dano, Robert Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz all nail their roles.
It's a typical Matt Reeves blockbuster in every sense. It's grounded, serious, and there's a strong emphasis on drama/tension, and less on action. The production and style of this thing are phenomenal. Excellent cinematography, which should be Oscar nominated (but probably won't), music, production value, costumes, directing, etcetera. It's grim, it's dark, it's gritty, but it doesn't feel like it's directed by a 16 year old edgelord either. I love how the colour palette of this film is restricted to black, grey, orange and red. It's perfect, taking clear influences from David Fincher films, neo noir detectives and '70s paranoia thrillers (maybe a hint of Marvel Netflix as well). I hope it reinvents the wheel for many blockbusters to come.
Its biggest problem are the pacing and the characters. I'm fine with defending longer films, but this isn't a smooth 3 hour ride. It holds its cards very close to the chest during the first half, to the point where it's hard to engage with and can get kinda boring. It's a lot of set-up, mood and atmosphere, and not much else. It doesn't really hook you with its characters or the dramatic intrigue of the story, as I didn't find this slow moving mystery compelling enough by itself (partially because it doesn't really engage the audience; you can't solve it by yourself). There's not even that much action to compensate, besides a few quick beats here and there.
It also relies too much on the cultural iconography of Batman and Catwoman that already exists in our current zeitgeist, and while I might know those characters as cultural icons, I don't know this Batman, or this Catwoman. It eventually gets there though, as The Riddler and Catwoman get a lot more interesting in their own right as the film goes along, but it takes a long time. I love that this Riddler is essentially re-imagined to be a radicalized 4 Chan incel , which feels very relevant for today. Still, we know very little about Batman by the end of it (besides his brooding indie rockstar behavior), which is mostly due to the general lack of Bruce Wayne in the film. Batman cannot be interesting without a good Bruce Wayne accompanying him. That's nothing against Robert Pattinson, he's very good in it, but the writing for his character is very one note. As a film, it would've benefitted a lot from a deeper dive into his psyche, because the emotional arc of his character doesn't feel earned by the end.
Still, these issues could easily be fixed in a sequel, it's a good enough foundation for a series of great Batman films.
7/10
Despite Robert Pattinson being a little too quiet and emotionless as Bruce Wayne. It’s funny how much his Batman is alive. Though his Bruce Wayne does show the inner scars more of any other Bruce Wayne. It is a little too overdone where you could consider him emo Bruce Wayne.
After a few hundred more viewings, his Bruce will probably grow on me more. His Batman though definitely doesn’t need to grow on me however. He could possibly be the most bad ass.
Paul Dano and Colin Farrell are both equally ingenious as the Riddler and the Penguin. Though Dano is creepier and bone chilling at times. Farrell’s Penguin is like the mob boss we’ve been missing on film since DeNiro in the Untouchables.
While Zoe Kravitz is an excellent Catwoman as well. Who feels the more like the character jumped out of the comic pages. Than the Riddler I admit. Who’s look was changed a little too much. Though him being perfectly out of his mind does make up for that.
The 3 hour length goes so fast surprisingly since the story pulls in you. To learn more about the Riddler especially and who will his next target be. My only problem is that Batman/Bruce is mostly on a motorcycle throughout. Until he just suddenly has the Batmobile in one scene.
Other than that and Pattinson’s Bruce Wayne having to grow on me. The Batman was the most solid Batman film since the Dark Knight. It also might be the closest movie the Arkham video games. Which is a very good thing.
When they said that this was a very different Batman movie from everything we had saw before, they really nailed it. It didn't felt like a Batman movie, but at the same time it felt like one of the most accurate one. This movie shows a more rough Batman, who is still learning and hasn't really figured it out yet. A true Batman Year Two. The gadgets are still somehow primitive and lack of all the shine that they got in any previous Bat movies (like a "techy-do-it-all gadget"). But it really makes more sense that at this point in his career it's still rough on the edges: The car, the "batarang" (more like a batknife), the flying suit, the cameras, even the graphook.
I know shit about cinema and photography and even that, i can say that it has beautiful shots and a really interesting photography, more that any of the previous. The fight scenes are really nicely done, really rough. It remained me to Batffleck's werehouse fight and even the Arkham games. I got a little dissapointed that there wasn't the classic white eyes (there was a rumor) or the "detective vision" (another rumor), but i guess that at least for this second one, it makes sense to not appear with the tech still in so early stage. I liked all the cast choices, and that nice hint in the end for the Joker, was a nice closing bow.
The plot remained me a lot to a series of quest in Arkham City i believe, where you are searching for a serial killer (i think it turns out to be Flamingo or Pyg, don't quite remember), but it gave the same vibe mixed with Seven: A big detective movie, where the detective happens to be The Batman.
I'm interested in see how or if, are they going to continue this, but i think they can build something quite nice around the character. A solid 8.5 for me.
For those people coming to this movie expecting another MCU or Nolan action fest you'll be disappointed. This movie is supposed to be a dark, raw, gritty representation of Batman where he's new and inexperienced and still finding his way. The source material such as the Long Halloween was exactly like this (there was event a 2 part animated movie last year).
You have to approach this movie more as an art house movie with a dark cinematic tone that walks you through the story. I mean there were also a lot of great action scenes woven in such as the car chase, the end fights and such to make it fairly strong on the action but that's not what THIS representation is supposed to be.
If you're an American with in inability to be away from your phone for 5 minutes or you have the attention span of a Gnat this isn't for you. If you want a Batman experienced and confident, this isn't for you. If you want Nolan style large, bright visuals.....this isn't for you.
If you want something raw, dark and gritty with a focus more on Batman coming to terms with things and batman learning to be "The greatest detective" then you might enjoy it.
For a lot of people saturated in the MCU blanket who can't enjoy a more drawn out noir film then skip this movie.
"The Batman" might not be a great film overall, but it's definitely the comic character's most convincing adaptation so far. We came to the point where there have been so many Batmovies that the audience's perception of the character is completely different from its comic counterpart. Matt Reeves' Batman is still aware of the expectations of the average moviegoers, but at the same time managed to take the character back to its roots as the world's best detective, offering us a slow-burning crime thriller where the real threat is the mob that pulls the strings in the filthiest and rainiest Gotham so far. Gritty and realistic without feeling pretentious, moody and stylized without getting cheesy. The Battinson hits hard when the situation requires, but we can see that after all, he is an insecure and tormented man in a ridiculous suit, a slave of his traumas and vices. And the best part is that we get all of this just by watching him in action, no need for pretentious dialogues or the same origin story all over again. The Bruce Wayne/Batman dichotomy has been strangely cut out, but it might be material for the sequels.
While the overall presentation is flawless, the plot and writing still need improvement. Like in "Batman Begins", the last thirty minutes suddenly raise the stakes to deliver an action-packed climax, but end up feeling strangely anticlimactic. It also felt like while essential plot points were often rushed, a lot of time got wasted spelling out things that were already crystal clear. Supporting characters don't get much screen time, and when something happens to them, it's hard to get emotionally involved. Still, it might be the first time I can't wait for the sequels!
This film has some of the most beautiful cinematography, lighting direction, picture texture, bokeh, implementation of lens flair, and best framing I've ever seen. Absolute cinema.
Some of the dialogue and some of the more traditional scoring diverged from the film's best at times, but Pattinson in this film is definitely my favorite Batman, and Serkis, despite not being in it as much as the rest of the main cast carried his part with excellence, as usual. It's hard to compete with Michelle Pfeifer, but I did like Kravitz's Selina Kyle. And goddamn did she wear the hell of those outfits. Jeffrey Wright actually got to be more than "concerned, overly earnest NBC series guy", and Paul Dano knocked it out of the park IMO, and it's the kind of performance that could easily go awry. Turturro, if anything, has gotten even better with age, and Colin Farrell was unrecognizable, and not just from the prosthetics. Great performance, and I usually dislike yelling in films (though mainly older films, since they didn't really seem to know how to present it), but it was a necessary part of the performances, and even had me laughing a few times. The humor was subtle and situational and drawn directly from the performances.
I will definitely come back to this one. It's one of the most gorgeous films I've ever seen, to the point that I'm gushing.
It's alright but it's not as amazing as some people have made it out to be, with some people like AVGN saying that it has all the strengths of the Dark Knight and none of the weaknesses, i felt I needed to chime in a little.
The cinematography is a bit strange, there's a brown tint throughout most of the film that makes it look kind of ugly at times. The cast is alright for the most part with Zoe Kravitz being the only weak link, after all Catwoman is supposed to be beautiful, on the other hand Robert Pattison makes a great job and so does Paul Dano. Also, the movie is needlessly and tediously long.
Minor spoilers ahead: Batman is kind of stupid in this movie and so is commissioner Gordon, first Batman crashes out of nowhere in a crash that could easily have killed anyone and yet he only sustains minor injuries, it adds nothing to the plot and feels almost like comedic relief. Also, both Batman and Gordon chase the penguin because Batman is too stupid to figure out that "rat with wings" refers to him (world's greatest detective, everyone) and in the chase the penguin shoots at other cars including a gas truck, which should have left many dead let alone injured, just so when they finally catch him they don't even arrest him.
Here’s my “Quick and Dirty Review” of “The Batman.” Wow. Great story, beautiful visuals, and some of the most haunting and melodic scoring I've heard in a long time. You know those folks that say "why can't they make good comic book movies? One's where you care about the good guys and hate the bad guys and it all seems to actually matter and it's not just some dumb exercise in grandstanding morons punching each other for two hours?" Show them this movie. It's haunting and thoughtful and moving. There's the absolute bare minimum of "modern day" tropes and groupthink -- instead, you get a vigilante detective trying to solve an escalating series of gruesome and public murders. Everyone is great in this: Kravitz, Paul Dano, Peter Sarsgaard, a completely unrecognizable Colin Ferrell and Turturro. Serkis as Alfred is haunted by his failure to protect Bruce Wayne's parents, while Jeffrey Wright's Lt. Gordon is apparently the only cop in town who's not on the payroll of some crime lord or syndicate. But my standout was Pattinson, formerly Mr. Shiny Vampire, who brings something new and vulnerable and a little unhinged to the Caped Crusader. Everything here feels fresh and new: a grungy but logical bat cave, a saucy and completely realistic batmobile, the way the Batman uses fear and his ability to be anywhere as tools in an attempt to keep a lid on the bubbling, simmering cesspool that is Gotham City. 9 out of 10, in my Top 5 for 2022.
I have to admit I went into this with pretty low expectations. I loved the Nolan movies, well, the first two anyway, and Robert Pattinson didn't strike me as the perfect choice for Batman. But it works. I was hooked by the opening sequence, and although the movie runs a bit too long in the end, I didn't lose interest.
Out of the almost 3 hours, there's perhaps 45min where we actually see Bruce without the mask. The movie's dark in tone and lighting, almost every scene is set at night. And almost every scene features Batman/Bruce, so what he knows we know as an audience - what he doesn't, we don't or have to guess at.
This time around a serial killer addresses Batman in letters at every crime scene - the victims? The city's high and mighty. And they all share a common thread, corruption, and, as it turns out, being part of a past investigation into a drugs kingpin. But the investigation soon turns more personal for Bruce.
Loved this twist in the storytelling. Whereas so far the Wayne family's portrayed as saints practically, in this rendition not so much. However, as torn and scarred as Bruce's portrayed, especially given that Alfred himself admits that he was no father figure to him, I'd have liked to see more of Bruce. The movie is so focused on the investigation, there's no deviation from it, no distractions like some kind of private/public life aside from being batman. Even the obligatory love interest is part of the investigation, and, in the end, sacrificed for continuing the work as batman even if that work shifts from pure vengeance to giving hope. What else does Bruce do? Why's vengeance even given as theme for Batman when in the end there's not much vengeance to be found in his actions? Pattinson, though, is great. He breathes life into the material he's given.
Overall, almost 3 hours, atmospheric, driven, great score that underlines the tension - I'd love to see more of this.
It follows the new Joker take on the Gotham universe.
They give us a different batman, a batman that's purely driven by revenge "I'm vengeance" with a different approach to his origin story although the morals are there. No killing, no guns and a sense of honour.
Batman grows throughout the movie, finding constructive purpose and molding to what the city needs him to be.
The movie itself is well made, a noir take on a rotten city with a different batman with room to grow.
This said, the movie is slow, batman plays his part as a pawn in the Riddler's plan and doesn't solve or stop anything which is strange given the detective facet they show. Riddler's plan goes through with a forced ending producing Gotham's saviour which doesn't seem that well thought. The idea is there, the people start to believe and follow batman, their saviour, but considering batman didn't stop any of the Riddler's plan, it's a bit of a miss.
Three Riddler turns out great, if being a sociopath is what's intended.
The suit is cool and we are presented with an inventive but not futuristic batman. In every gun fight I wondered how the suit was so bullet proof but light and manoeuvrable enough for him to move and fight, jump, climb, etc. He builds the bat mobile and the bike and they are similar to regular vehicles, just enhanced. The car chase is brilliant and after penguins car gets turned over, the cinematography is excellent.
In the end, I believe we were spoiled by Bale's batman, which had the wits, the tools, the toys and gadgets that amount to a brilliant batman, along with excellent villains, something this one isn't after the first movie.
There were portions of this film that I truly enjoyed and portions that I could've done w/ out. Since there was much more good than bad, I'll start w/ what I liked:
As for what I didn't care for:
Could have being a masterpiece. I like the style, atmosphere, acting, the way it shot, nice message at the end...
As far as you could go in comicbook film without outright saying that Bruce should just drop the costume and start focusing on treating the problem rather than the symptom.
Script should have being way more polished or the world less realistic for all of it to work properly in the end. Dialogues and the way characters interacted Gordon - a man perplexed by absolutely anything was the worst example of it. Batman deduction degraded drastically with time to questionable levels felt too "dumbed down" for no good reason. A simple plot was derailed thanks to that a couple of times.
I don't know how to rate this film. It had amazing potential that it slowly lost. It is not a bad film by any stretch of imagination. It didn't felt edgy for the sake of being edgy. Runtime didn't drag it down. The dead inside main character had a major flow that was properly addressed in satisfying way, especially for comic book movie standards. But dumbed down parts standout so much... That ironically enough if other parts were on the same level as "dumb ones" it would make a better overall movie.
8 is low for all the effort that went there. At the same time film desperately needed more time for script writers to smooth things out or smarter test audience.
80 | The Batman deserved the hype. There were only a few films that could do big crime plots with such a quality. There was its twin brother The Dark Knight and The Batman tried to be better than him. He gave a good fight but still lose.
The cinematography of The Batman is great and its beats The Dark Knight in that aspect. The story is good, thanks for the climax. This film has the patience to build up the story into a fascinating climax.
Also, every character has a strong presence, we could feel that they are in charge of the room. Even the side characters have great charisma. Ironically Batman who is supposed to be the main guy is less interesting than the villain. It's also happened in Nolan's version of Batman. But it could be a good thing because without a villain there would not be a hero. They complete each other.
Watching this film could make you wonder why a lot of films that involved "(super)heroes" have a very bad national or regional security system. They seem amateur or at least less professional than the main hero. Probably, that's what most films try to say, that the system is corrupt. It feels boring sometimes when that kind of writing always comes into play. Hoping there would be a better explanation on explaining why they are corrupt. Simplified the explanation but not oversimplified it.
What the city of Gotham did to the Riddler makes him who he is right now. A corrupt place produces bad humans and bad humans produce a corrupt place. The cycle never stops. Some people who tried to stop the cycle ended up realizing, there was no way to stop it without becoming one. They only replace them. People on the losing side always complain about the injustice that happened to them but when they turn to the winning side they suddenly forgot that they are also contributing to that injustice system. That's what happened to The Riddler, you can't beat a bad guy without being a bad guy.
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Rating: 79.38
Plot
P1: 1.5
P2: 2.0
P3: 1.3
P4: 1.3
Director: Matt Reeves
Favorite Characters
1.6: John Turturro as Carmine Falcone
1.5: Colin Farrell as Oz / The Penguin
1.4: Paul Dano as The Riddler
1.2: Robert Pattinson as Bruce Wayne / The Batman
1.1: Zoë Kravitz as Selina Kyle / Catwoman
1.0: Jeffrey Wright as Lt. James Gordon
Character Score Meaning
Terrible : 0.0 - 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.4
Bad : 0.5 - 0.6 - 0.7 - 0.8
Average : 0.9 - 1.0 - 1.1 - 1.2
Good : 1.3 - 1.4 - 1.5 - 1.6
Great : 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 - 2.0
Full disclosure: I am generally not a fan of comic book movies. Sure, I've enjoyed some of them over the years for the bubblegum experience that they offer. That said, I really enjoyed this film. At different times it reminded me of the 60's tv show and all of the various movies over the last 30+ years, but at the same time it very much felt like a reimagining of the franchise. I think that it kept what worked (Batman as a crimefighter) and got rid of what didn't work (the cartoonish villains). I also like that the franchise seemed to be centered around Batman and not the backstory of the villains (of course, it was the focus on the Joker that allowed Heath Ledger to be a star in his final role). Instead of the villains being the freaks it showed Batman as being a freak, which is fitting because he was called a freak in earlier movies even though his character didn't seem to fit that description). The movie may have meandered a bit on the backside of the movie but I thought they did a great job setting themselves up for a nice reboot.
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As with his trademark nemesis, each Batman film must stand out from its predecessors. So what does Matt Reeves' version offer us, and is Robert Pattinson convincing as Bruce Wayne?
To say that, like many people, I was concerned about the choice of the main cast. White characters played by black actors, and a Pattinson who is well known from the Twilight saga, could perhaps doom the film to failure with audiences. Fortunately, in the first few minutes of the film, Reeves manages to take your mind off these thoughts.
The atmosphere is dark and depressing, what you would expect from a Gotham in Batman's early years. And indeed, that's what we can see: he's inexperienced, he needs a lot of outside help, and while you can see the fear he's managed to strike into the hearts of the bad guys, he hasn't yet made a real name for himself. A very interesting aspect of the character, and very well portrayed throughout the film.
Pattinson does very well in both roles (Batman and Wayne), and Zöe Kravitz and Jeffrey Wright are limited to supporting roles without overshadowing their co-star. Special mention must go to Paul Dano and an unrecognisable Colin Farrell. The former has managed to establish himself as one of the great villains of the Batman film sagas with a chilling role.
The three hours of film go by quickly, with a constant narrative that leaves no room for boredom and where we are not overwhelmed by constant action scenes. It's the detective Batman, not the fighter, and Reeves plays him accordingly.
An excellent Batman film, which I hope will maintain the same atmosphere and pace in future sequels.
Review by r96skBlockedParent2022-03-18T02:21:28Z
It's a cracker, no doubt about it!
Matt Reeves did a great job with 2022's 'The Batman'. It's difficult not to compare this to other Batman films, though that's DC/Warner Bros. fault for featuring him so much in recent times. I'll get this out the way early: I'd say 'Batman Begins'/'The Dark Knight' are superior, not by much, which is a similar case for the character performances too.
Robert Pattinson is a terrific Bruce Wayne, though Christian Bale still edges him out in my eyes. Zoë Kravitz is probably the best Catwoman I've seen, though the rest - from the Riddler to Penguin to Alfred - have been portrayed better; aside from Commissioner Gordon, with Jeffrey Wright being excellent. Paul Dano is the least enjoyable performer, for me, here, I found his showing to be a bit 'meh' - effective, but meh. Barry Keoghan makes a cameo, I won't say as who, but I don't hold high hopes for him in that role; though, apparently it won't be anything that happens anyway. For the best!
Anyway... the above sounds way too negative - as I did thoroughly and absolutely enjoy this film, hence the very positive rating. The pacing is very good, the cinematography is brilliant (Gotham looks fantastically bleak!), the story is engrossing and the dialogue is on point. The scenes with Pattinson/Kravitz and Pattinson/Wright are my favourite moments. It's a film that I'd consider as 'outstanding'.
It'll be cool to see what Reeves does with this trilogy (should it happen, of course).