This show is a mess that doesn't make any sense, so far. I don't see why it's getting praised.
The action scenes with the jackals remind me of Eternals. And that isn't praise, by the way.
Big budget, big cast but hollow feeling. I’m hoping it does what Andor did for Star Wars but I’m only just holding on at this point
TKB was robbed
i loved this. sure, some dumb script decisions at the ending with sara and the villain, but overall it was a great action episode. i still can't believe how they managed to improve the show so much from season 1 to this, keeping the right characters (with the exception of snart who i miss, but his absence gives us good mick and rory moments) and changing the way episodes happen.
As great as that first episode was, (I gave it a rare 9), this was a step back. Very slow at the start, but once Morpheus meets the Three-in-One, it really picks up again. Could have done without the Cain-Abel-Gargoyle stuff - not sure if that's important or riveting in the book or not, but felt pretty poor here. The CGI for some of the Gargoyle stuff also wasn't great. This episode needed a bit more to get it to an 8. Almost there though. Series is off to a great start.
will smith is a storyteller. hollywood is full of these people. these are celebrities who mix personal life with narrative, in a way you can't tell which parts of what they say are true or not. they sell. this is one of the things i love about david letterman's interviews: he manages to extract some truths from the person, subtly and elegantly, without surrendering to charms but without being arrogant.
when people give this episode a bad review because they don't like will smith, they're failing to see how precious it is. you can see, in that fifty minutes, many true parts of will smith (including the toxic masculinity) which he usually hides but david and his team manage to extract. will smith is not a bad or good person. these are narratives. what david's interviews do is show the person behind the narratives. complex and contradictory people. it's a study. i love it.
The way Aimee acts around Kevin and looks at him... I get some serious American Beauty vibes here. And I think at this point he actually has something going on with Aimee, but he doesn't remember it. And now he has a thing with Nora, so this whole situation might get pretty awkward :D
Easily the best episode of S2 so far. Unpopular opinion but I feel like this is the first time I see Elizabeth written in such a way that makes her unbelievably human and sympathetic. Absolutely loved it.
So did they just retcon this X-5 guy into existence or something? Seems like everybody knows him already.
I disagree with other comments that the pacing of this episode is slow. I didn't notice it any slower than any GOT episode. Every episode doesn't need war or intensity to be satisfying. A good show needs character building to set up further story.
[8.2/10] What a blast this is. I’m impressed both at how well WandaVision is able to replicate the 1950s sitcom vibe, especially for supernatural-themed comedies like Bewitched mixed with The Dick van Dyke show, while also including a subtle but palpable sense of existential terror beneath the three camera confines of the show.
I really enjoy how this first episode plays on the classic sitcom tropes: a couple not remembering an important date on the calendar, a wacky neighbor, a boss coming over for dinner who needs to be impressed. The show does a nice spin on them, while also feeling true to the sitcoms it’s paying homage to. I’m particularly stunned by the cast, who are able to replicate that acting style, and the editors and other behind the scenes craftsmen, who are able to replicate the rhythm, to such perfection.
What’s neat is that the episode works pretty perfectly separate and apart from its larger MCU connections as a solid old school sitcom pastiche. There’s a lot of nice setup and payoffs of gags, like Wanda repurposing a magazine's “Ways to please your man” article to distract her husband’s boss and his wife, or Vision singing “Yakety Yak” after decrying it earlier. Even the lobster door knocker routine was a fun and comical grace note to an earlier bit. As cornball as it is, there’s something charming about this sort of thing, right down to the “What do we actually do here?” gag about the computer company. And despite the light spoofing at play, this works as a solid meat and potatoes sitcom episode.
But the show goes a step further and has real fun with the fact that its leads are a self-described witch and a magical mechanical man respectively. There’s tons of amusing gags, starting with the intro, about the pair using their powers in trifling 1950s household sorts of ways. At the same time, it does well with the jokes about hiding their true identities. Vision writing off Wanda’s behavior as “European”, Wanda reassuring her neighbor that her husband is human, and Vision taking offense when a coworker tells him he’s a “walking computer” are all entertaining bits that make the most of the weird premise.
And yet, what really elevates this episode is the unnerving hints that there’s something terribly wrong going on here. It’s not hard to guess that after the events of Endgame, there’s still concerns about what happened to vision. The show plays with the melodic rhythms of the sitcom form to suggest something off at the edges here, in a really sharp way.
For instance, there’s an interstitial commercial featuring a Stark toaster, and not only does it feature the only bit of color in the black and white presentation with the beeping light, but the toasting takes just a beat too long for comfort. Likewise, the fact that Wanda and Vision can’t remember their story or how they got married is initially played for laughs, but then it becomes creepy when Mrs. Hart demands answers.
The peak of this comes when Mr. Hart chokes on his broccoli and the artifice freezes for a moment, leaving everyone paralyzed by the departure from how things work in this sort of situation. It’s a great piece of work, of a piece with the likes of Twin Peaks and Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared in its quiet horror.
I’ll refrain from speculating about who’s watching the broadcast we see or who’s in the monitoring room we seem to have an eye on, but the hints at what's really going on, and how that influences the images the audience witnesses, creates a great organic mystery and another layer to the proceedings.
Overall, this is a boffo debut for the series, and I’m excited to watch more!
For the love if shit, people. Without the first 3 episodes we wouldn't have this episode. Without the first 3 episodes this one wouldn't be as impactful. It's storytelling and all part of a larger whole. Stop saying, "finally we're getting somewhere," or "this is what the show should have been from the start." Its a journey. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Holy shit.
Does anyone else dislike that they incorporated coronavirus into the show? It takes me out.
Someone move this episode to special instead of season 1
Possibly a contrarian opinion, but I'm starting to get a little worn down by a show that so heavily panders to the super fans in hopes their gushing will trickle down to the masses. You're supposed to be telling me the story, not showing glimpses of things and then hoping I'll read wiki pages and fandom entries just to know what the hell is going on.
Case in point, we've seen Monica as an operative for SWORD, but she walks through the Hex and now has glowing eyes and can stand toe to toe with Wanda. So now you expect me to read wiki entries on whoever the fuck "Spectrum" is just to understand what the hell just happened? Or are we all supposed to have a resident Marvel super fan who can just rattle off who these people are you're introducing at the speed of light?
Agatha is also another prime example. After this weeks episode, it feels like the intended reaction from the audience is "OMG THEY ARE DOING AGATHA HARKNESS?! OMG OMG OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE DOING AGATHA!!". I simply do not know who Agatha is or what her connection is, but all the comments online would have you believe this is the second coming of Christ.
A fly on the wall in one scene is apparantly a confirmation of either Mephisto or Nightmare. Who? What? Oh right, more wikis and fandom pages.
After years pruning branches and killing gazillions people, suddenly that X whatever is her name lady is REALLY horrified of branches being erased with, gasp, people living on them!
I joked on my comment on last episode that the show felt like they hired new writers that never watched one episode of the last season, bit it turns out this season is REALLY being written by a new writing team LOL. Man, they REALLY needed to at least take a glimpse at the scripts from last season. It'sb becoming beyond ridiculous at this point.
Also the McDonald's ads were really up in our noses this time. I was surprised Sylvie didn't have a dialogue line about her new life saying she was lovin' it!
FINALLY, you don't have to be white to be in the hall of fame, henny!
Aw, Chi Chi. I felt my insides freezing when I noticed her name plate, I cannot imagine what she felt when the mistake was pointed out to her.
I was so relieved they chose the same person. I was TERRIFIED there.
Is this show supposed to be so... cartoon-y ? It's just so over the top ridiculous, in the acting and character interactions.
I thought it would be darker and grittier, but it's giving off a teen-show vibe. That damn stereotypical accent definitely does not help this not seem comedic.
This show is awesome. The ending of this episode, oh my god.
The MCU has reached the point where character deaths cause me to wonder if it's due to the story they wanted to tell, or due to the actor's contract expiring and them not wanting to renew.
I haven't really liked any of the recent MCU movies that I've seen, so I hope this is decent. Don't really have much of an opinion on it yet.
It is really frightening for me to see how many of the people here see this as a happy ending.
I guess technology and the hedonistic neoliberalism have found its way already into our minds.
Weren't you atleast concerned about the talk they had about people "doing everything to atleast feel something" in this sadomaso / groupsex facility? About 80-85% being already dead? About a huge technology company owning us even after our deaths? Just for the sake of hedonistic, fake emotions disguised as only what it is: binary codes?
This was, for me atleast, one of the darkest endings of any Black Mirror episode ever. It shows you exactly what the neoliberalistic idea has already done to us and will eventually still do in the future (and I thank the director and makers of Black Mirror so much for it! One of the best episodes of this show so far)
am I the only one who thought in the beginning that Logan dying was a ploy to somehow fuck over the kids again :sweat_smile::upside_down:
……nah it was just me & maybe I ended up caring for the bastard in the end (help)
Can someone explain the end to me? the comment of why jackie wears the same dress and all the act of mourning on part of the queen ... I feel like I missed something here ....
I was ok with them including the pandemic in the storyline but at this point it is like they are not sure what to do with it anymore. We get all these moments where the pandemic is emphasized and then others where it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal, like Kate choosing that specific moment to confront Marc or Randall deciding to travel and find out about his mom!
Now about that whole Kate/Marc story, the show gave us glimpses here and there and really took its time teasing us about Kate’s past but never divulging all the truth, and now it seems the reveal and resolution were rushed. Kate suddenly decides to confront Marc (during a pandemic nonetheless) and after one talk with him, she is suddenly free of an abusive past that has taken years of her life. She never even spoke about it! I mean good for her but how realistic is this? In one episode, she is triggered to remember her past, tells Toby the truth, stalks Marc, confronts him, and then done, chapter closed!
I still don’t like the whole Randall’s mom story but I am kind of curious to see what will be the reason for her not looking up William or her son all these years?
Kevin calling Randall for advice really got me all teared up… BUT what is going with his storyline? The whole disagreement between him and Madison really came out of nowhere! It is not like she suddenly discovered that he is an actor, and Kevin really doesn’t travel that much! Specifically, it came right after she pushed him to accept the location change of his latest movie. Why can’t you just sit and talk and maybe come to some agreement, like she can stay with the kids in LA and Kevin can travel back and forth when needed. One line that cracked me up though was when she told him “you come from a family of great speech-givers.” :joy:
i don't understand what happened to the series. there's so many new characters, it's like we're on another season. i feel like i didn't got to say goodbye to the other arc and there's a new one with new concepts and little conexion with the past episodes.
While the ending made me smile at points, and in the end, and while it was cool watching that battle and seeing the powers from heroes being used, I still feel slightly... Empty? Like we sacrificed a lot in this show to get to so little resolution. We don't even know how long Rhody was a skrull, just that apparently he's having trouble walking again like after Civil War. So was fake Rhody mourning Tony when he died or not??? Add in another unlikable president to the mix. I dunno... It wasnt terrible, I mean shit some of the last few marvel shows really showed how low it can go, but I guess I just expected a lot more here.
I can't believe i was so excited to see Maria Hill again and they killed her off in the first episode. You can't do that to me.
These cliffhanger are so annoying, When are we? 2009? Just tell the story and move on
I would have liked maybe a tiny bit more of epilogue instead of just people taking their fateful places, but it was still quite fitting. From the swimming scene to the joyful but grotesque abomination of the kitchen scene to the ending.
There are two things I would like to highlight. The first one is water. There was that episode in the first season where people were joking that Logan can't swim, and at the end of that episode he did swim when only Marcia saw it, but ever since then Ken was obsessed with water and staying above water to prove that he can float and swim.Now we were literally shown that his sibling can swim as well, and it's fucking amazing he was even denied of water at the end. I don't know if him being gone and done would mean that he would kill himself after these events, but it can certainly mean he was ripped off of his natural habitat and while that does not make him repent for what he did and what he is, it is certainly the cruelest and most fitting poetic justice.
The other thing is person-on-person violence. This show has always been about verbal and emotional abuse, very carefully picking one moment every season where that emotinal abuse was not enough for someone and it manifested into physical. In season 1 Logan hit one of his grandkids, in season 2 he slapped Roman, in season 3 Roman pushed Kendall on his birthday and he fell. And while this season was pushing that limit e.g. Shiv falling and drinking while pregnant, now we got TWO of it, mainly the outburst of coincidentally Roman insulting Kendall's kids. The moments of violence are always carefully picked and always terrifying because they always made it seem like it can't get worse than emotional. But it can. Fucking amazing genius of a show.
