I was not pleased with few episodes of this season. But I would be lying if I said that I didn't enjoy many scenes in this episode. I don't hate the events that happened in it unlike many. I loved many things as well as the soundtracks, the acting, the CGI, special visual effects, and all the works. They were good, in my opinion.
Jon Snow heads North, leaving his Targaryen identity, as Tormund Giantsbane once told him, "You've got the North in you, the real North." He gave our good boy a pat, finally. He went north of the wall, though, with the freefolk. Not much point of Castle Black anymore, and it was even barely manned, so it makes sense. The ending seemed just, to me.
But one thing I am disappointed at, is that we never knew what Tyrion did with the honeycomb and the jackass at the brothel. :laughing:
Technically it was one of the best episodes, for me. I'm at peace with how things ended.
I really can't wait for the spin-off, by the way.
I also want to see another spin-off about Arya Stark's adventures. I'd pay good money for it.
I grew up watching this series. Thank you Game of Thrones. Easily one of my favourite TV series, if not the best one of them all. I will miss this series.
A round of applause for Westworld! Awesome finale. I loved it a fantastic episode.
The Chernobyl disaster is something that has always been of interest to me. Even though this is a dramatization not a documentary, it seems to be striving for accuracy and realism in its depiction of the event. I watch a lot of Horror and I'm probably desensitized by that frequency. But this episode had my heart thumping as the plant workers and firefighters fought the disastrous explosion. It's scarier than any Horror film that I've seen in a long time.
This episode did a great job of recreating '80s Soviet Union Pripyat. The architecture and styles looked accurate. The most stunning recreation was the stifling bureaucracy and buck-passing that was no doubt present in the Soviet socialist state. So many layers of supervision. So many organizations and titles. This episode appears to accurately portray the dismal, incentive-sucking grind that citizens of a communist society experienced.
Eh. I guess. This is probably the worst of the bunch.
didn't much like how the characters looked but the environment and lighting looked insane.
And now our watch has ended
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It's done, we have a new King and Queen.
(I'm not so happy about it, but that's what we have.)
This is the end of an era, so much memories...
Thanks for everything!
I'm a quite sensitive watcher so you can imagine how much I cried during this episode. Like a baby. So sad yet brilliant!
This was a really hard episode to watch. Pulled at every single emotional string in your soul. The ending, was beautifully done, but wow, crying like a baby.
crying and sobbing. ji-yeong was so sweet. and ali! and il-nam. fucking hell.
BEST F*CKING EPISODE EVER. There wasn't a moment of peace. Every minute was pure action. The stakes were never this high.
My god, I loved this one.
Press F my fellow scouts.
The man who rode that train was built weak and born to fail. You fixed him. Now forget about it. Teddy 2.0
Dolores wanting to change everything but herself, Maeve wanting to change herself to influence the world.
What we learned in Phase Space
Dolores is programming and testing and Arnold bot
Or maybe, that's not her (or her cr4-dl consciousness). That's Ford. He needs to have her appearance b/c that's what the real Arnold knew about that conversation.
William thinking his daughter was a host sent by Ford. ROFL!!!
Of course, he was testing her to see if she was a real or host version of Emily sent by Ford as part of the game
Climate control is working
More about the Cradle
Cradle—spelled CR4-DL is "the simulation technology that stores and tests all of our storylines" and ensures customers "get the immersive and dynamic experience [they] deserve." So it's the way Delos test-drives its experiences. Bernard describes it as a "backup," and Elsie calls it a "hive mind" where all the host's consciousnesses are "alive.
Japanese Armistice is sticking with Maeve and the gang
William and Emily's relationship has been...difficult
William confused his wife with his daughter when recounting the story about the elephants in Raj World. Does that say something about his family life, a simple slip of the tongue, or is it something else like MIB is a Host?
Maeve's daughter has new parents
Who didn't see Maeve meeting her replacement? Did she think her daughter was all alone? That was typical of Lee to omit that little piece of information. And what is the Ghost Nation's game?
Ghost Nation wanted Maeve to come with them. Since they protect the guests, there was also more to Maeve than simply being a host.
Akecheta is awake & probably sees that Maeve is too!
Teddy 2.0 is Stone Cold
Dolores is going to regret reprogramming Teddy in the coming episodes.
Her reactions were so funny "oh shit what have I done!"
Teddy is aware that Dolores reprogrammed him. I feel that will be important later.
Ford is inside the Cradle
Ford's back, or at least an approximation of his consciousness in the Cradle. We all suspected Ford would return as a Host despite the flat-out denials from Anthony Hopkins and Jonathan Nolan & co.. They pretty much telegraphed his return over the season (he's in the system, briefly surfacing in Hosts e.g. young Ford), but Episode 4 all but confirmed it.
Dolores and Maeve storylines ** is not interesting at all. They're currently paper thin and taking their sweet time to go anywhere.**
The Man In Black's daughter who we know nothing about is a far more compelling character.
The Cradle Is Capable Of So Much More Than We Expected
The Cradle, in essence, is a server that stores memories and consciousness for retrieval. Like a file cabinet, the hosts’ “data” is copied and contained within the server, and can be accessed to run theoretical or training simulations on the robots. The main function of the Cradle, though, is to act as a backup for each of the intricately-crafted hosts; a way for Delos to preserve the work that went into detailing their appearances, their preferences, their mannerisms, the very things that make them so human. Think of it as the Cloud that stores your phone pics.
Those pearls, it turns out, are the container for the hosts’ consciousnesses. But the Cradle itself send commands to the parks, not unlike the way the Matrix papers over glitches with deja vu. And the implications of this functionality go way beyond just data storage. It means that the Cradle itself can run simulations or disrupt the flow of time —if it has a programmer (the host) to program a server farm (the Cradle), illustrated by Bernard getting off the train at exactly the spot he needed to be. The Cradle doesn’t appear to create simulations without a host’s consciousness to guide it.
Do we have a host in the Cradle? We sure do, and because Bernard just uploaded his brain pearl into the Cradle, it could mean that everything we’ve seen in season 2 thus far — the multiple timelines, the weird ways that the characters are interacting with him — are just a simulation. This totally mind-bending but plausible theory was put forth by YouTuber HaxDogma, and in a 10-minute video he makes the case that Bernard has hacked his way into the Cradle, and everything is running from his point of view. In other words, it’s as though we’re viewing everything like Neo did at the end of the first Matrix: as a source code that can be manipulated.
Or (and this is even more sinister), perhaps Robert Ford has been in the Cradle all along, pulling the strings, and driving wedges between Dolores and Maeve with her new powers.
This episode really made me think about the evil that surrounds humanity, in every aspect...
This episode was SO good! Would have watched a movie based on this, really enjoyed it. The animation, voice acting and story were all phenomenal.
I am speechless, I really don't know what to say, this was one of the best episodes I have ever watched. I just can't hold my tears of our loss in this episode, it was very emotional...
Not to mention that I literally jumped screaming from the surprise at the last battle. Bottom line, this episode was EPIC!
the hearts game episode here
What a fucking masterpiece. The dialogue, the acting: outstanding, especially the MIB slow reveal. 30 minutes after the finale and I'm still speechless. Everything was brilliant. That smile the WIB had when he realized that the hosts were actually able to fight back was just perfect. No one has ever been so happy so get shot. But he has to survive. At least he found the meaning he was looking for.
And wtf, this whole time Ford has been on the side of the hosts? This has actually been the best part of the finale. It was a nice unpredicted twist. That's why he did all the things he did. He didn't want anyone to destroy his beautiful creatures. It wasn't that he didn't want the humans to feel sorry for the hosts, but the other way around. Holy mindfuck. That's why he kept on talking to Old Billy and that pianist. That's why they were all dressed up and not naked.
And I'm so glad that Maeve's arc is designed by Ford in order to get rid of his enemies. So Dolores and Maeve are the ones that are really conscious, or is Bernard too? I really like the fact that Maeve decides to stay and that Dolores shoots Ford because she freely decides to. However, what if everything is scripted and Maeve came back because, as Bernard said "once you reach the main..." (mainland?), she was scripted to?
I really hope Dolores didn't kill Ford, but a host version. That handshake between Ford and Bernard felt weird, and that zoom in, suspicious. Why if that robot being created in episode 7 was in fact Ford's replacement?
Felix's little existencial crisis was one of the funniest parts for me, ike, am I even real? Does existence really exist? and Armistice's first time with an automatic weapon. I didn't know I needed that. I think Sylvester is still waiting in that lab.
Now wait until 2018. I will freeze all motor functions now and bring myself back online for season 2. It is going to be insane: multiple parks, the hosts full on terminator, and the board dead. The hosts run the show now.
I'm not crying, you're crying.
i guess only americans still think hitler jokes are funny, the rest of the world evolved...
This episode was unbelievably strong, brilliant, so much depth and emotion, the acting. The way everything came full circle. Truly stunning. I guess I shall ‘freeze all motor functions’ till 2018
Evan Rachel Wood with Ed Harris, those scenes, “his path will lead him back”, were so strong.
That scene of Maeve being created is gorgeous! Wow. Those awards for technical achievements better be coming!
So William became The Man in Black on his quest for Delores. "He found himself" - This montage/narrative reveal is really great. Fascinating how much love/affection/or care can make someone do the craziest of things.
"I really ought to thank you, Delores, you helped me find myself" - I loved how the showcased the reveals, the time periods together, the scenes being crossing together, the camera work, the music, so beautiful (reminded of the Jon Snow reveal from Game of Thrones).
"Time undoes even the mightiest of creatures" OMG Evan Rachel Wood was so powerful in this moment. The way she spoke of walking on his ashes, it was stunning .That dialogue (reminded me of that which Sansa said to Ramsey).
"Take me to where the mountains meet the sea” - This dialogue tonight!
"How many are there like me?" - The way Maeve looked out the window, the pain in her performance, it was truly breathtaking.
“I wanted them to be free, free to fight back” - What The Man in Black said was interesting, having a reaction, for them to fight back, without that freedom, the game is pointless because you know the outcome.
Seeing Delores die in Teddy’s arms and it all being a show, it’s haunting and beautiful. All of this is truly a play, the hosts are the supporting cast and Dr. Ford is the orchestrating of all of this. Truly Shakespearian.
Loved Armistice and Hectors reactions to the guns :D
Seeing Maeve and Hectors saying goodbyes were really moving, “see you in the next life” :(
"What he had lost his son, he tried to create in you" - My heart, the maze too, representing a child’s toy, the representation of a child's innocence. This is too beautifully touching and thought to provoke. It's all so simple sometimes.
It’s always suffering, isn’t it, even for us humans :(
The closing music was gorgeous. Maeve turning back because she saw a mother and a child, a reflection of herself, her humanity coming through :(
That cliffhanger!! I am so heartbroken we have to wait so long!
Well... what an ending.
The Talk scene was nearly perfect and also hurt me in all the right ways. Could have being even more mean-spirited if Mappa left in the meanest jabs at Armin - "You weren't soft like this before. Your judgment always led us to an answer... But now, all you can say is, "let's talk"... You're absolutely useless." and Mikasa - "What I'm saying is that the REAL Mikasa disappeared in that mountain cabin, at 9-years old. Leaving only you behind, ever faithful <..> slave:
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Thank god Mappa cut the host talk, through. It was confusing as hell and naturally fans blow it out of proportions even more. It was a mess. I didn't know one could make the scene where Mikasa holds Armin down even more heartbreaking than it was in the manga, but they managed it somehow.
Levi vs Zeke part alot 3
The good. Well, the good parts were great actually. Voice acting, it was as emotional as the Talk, I enjoyed some creative shots of the fight, hell even funny parts from the manga were left in hooray!
The bad. Good god who the hell choose this song?! No, a song with lyrics in general and it was playing so loud... ugh. Music didn't add anything to the moment. WIT did amazing job animating Levi's fight scenes and Mappa is no match in that regard. Some shots that looked creative tried to hide lack of powerful moments, but ultimately heavy burden was put on the voice actors to carry the scene (but they did a great job anyway). Also feels like Levi had more expression during all of it in the manga. Regardless, it was the first fight in season 4 that didn't meet my personal expectations which is kinda worrisome for the part 2 of Season 4... well, we will see I guess.
Btw, the "censorship steam" is back baby! WIT couldn't be more proud looking at the scene of Zeke's injuries ;)
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Not yet shown ending
Who knows. If they switched back to a different storyline after the fight like it happened in the manga overall impression of the episode would dip, imho. BUT if they didn't and ended it where I think they would... oh boy, I think a lot of flaws could be forgotten just for this bold move.
As a giant sidenote.
It does feels like Ackerman's lore is retconned somewhat in anime.
I assumed that the previously cutted info would be used in The Talk scene by Eren. But not only nothing was added to it, some info from the Talk scene was cut short on the lore, too.
It started back in season 3 with unimportant hints getting cut. Like Zeke calling Levi a monster:
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Before the attack on Marley we had Zeke explaining why they should be extra careful with the future attack on Paradise island. And he mentions Ackerman clan as byproduct of titan science:
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Which also sort of explains why Porco specifically called Levi "Ackerman" in that moment.
In The Talk we get even more detailed and over explained to be honest description of their power:
"A bloodline that could partly manifest the strength of a titan while in human form."
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End of my essay)
Every episode of this season unfolds another element that makes it clear absolutely anything is going to be possible from now on - but somehow, it always feels so artful and story-driven. I love this show.
i have a big list of people that i want to force show this episode
"I hope I'm not too late".
You glorious bastard. You never are. You never are...
That damn soundtrack choice at the end. Ooh boy.
No such thing exist as a noble goal for war. Just pointless deaths and crimes.
1st half and 2nd half of episode worked really well on it's own. Second one was better drawn for sure. Anime made Rumbling ten times more horrifying with their movements and vaporizing heat.
But I'm still kinda in favor of leaving ch. 123 where it was in timeline. Lightheartedness of it worked better when future atrocities at the end of the chapter were implied, but not yet committed by Eren.
Won't probably see how Mappa will end it all in 2023...
I'm happy for people of freeworld that going to see this antiwar masterpiece of a saga coming to an end. Хуй войне!
Good seeing "old Mikasa" back in action
This episode wrecked me emotionally.
Okay, what the fuck. That was so fucking unexpected for me. And I love how casual he just drops the biggest revelation of the series. The last few minutes were some of the most intense and amazing I've ever seen in an anime.
