Just 25 minutes in and I think Westworld could be the next Battlestar Galactica. It's more dark than the movie from the 70's. Just not sure why the engineers don't see all the crazy shit Ed Harris has been up to though. If they are always watching the robots.
Still, as a fan of the original movie, this show is pretty kick ass and I can't wait for more. The movie is pretty outdated and this show makes a great insanely awesome update. Even if all of it doesn't make complete sense so far.
An amazing episode, with stories and threads that will likely make much more sense later on. Suspense, mystery, and emotion, all masterfully woven together.
I am not really sure on the message of the end. Does she realize she couldn't do this without Tedros, or does she go back to her abuser after seemingly breaking free of him? Straight trash.
“I wanna make music that lasts longer than my life.” meanwhile, it's just a weird moaning version of her already dumb pop song.
The dialogue is quite immature at times.
I think a huge problem with this show is that The Weeknd has no sex appeal and can’t sell the darkness that this character needs. He is also not a super convincing actor or character so it takes you out of the scene. I burst into laughter when Tedros started his dirty talk, it was that bad.
I am incredibly grateful to Game of Thrones for this adventure I have found myself sucked into for some years now. I am grateful for all the emotions it brought me since day one, bitter and sweet alike. I am grateful for all the laughs, all the tears, all the jokes and gags, every single bit of it, I really am grateful and appreciative of it all. It's been just... wonderful.
That said, I am feeling robbed and betrayed right about now. This ending is arguably one of the worst series finales in the history of television and trust me I realize how bold of a statement that is. The terrible violations the characters have suffered this season, the lack of proper resolution to many of the plots and narratives developed over seasons worth of buildup, the seeking of shock value at the expense of quality writing... that and much much more solidified this as an absolute disappointment of a finale, as opposed to the marvel wrap it could've given this cultural phenomenon.
This episode does have its positives, as always the score, acting and cinematography are perfectly performed but I just do not think it's nearly enough to compensate for how lackluster the writing has been, as much as I wish they did. Oh well, sad as it may be, I'll just hold on to the good stuff and hope that GRRM's book, once finished, will tackle the ending in a more coherent, more respectful and more meaningful way. It's been real y'all...
P.S: I'll leave this here lest some people jump me again. This comment is a representation of my own personal opinion, I am entitled to one just as all of you are. If you enjoyed this season and felt this finale delivered what you were looking for then more power to you mate, but that doesn't nullify my opinion nor does it make yours any valid. If you want to discuss or challenge my views, I'd be more than happy to engage you on that basis but if all you have to offer are petty remarks then please keep them to yourself.
If Stephen King and Steven Spielberg had a baby, this is EXACTLY what it would look it.
What in the actual f*ck.
I'm a reasonable man, I realize I've been crapping on D&D even more than usual this season but I really do have to give them props for doing exactly what they set out to do. They hoped to subvert our expectations and they did just wonderfully in that regards.
We expected all of that buildup over the years to actually amount to something that at the very least passes for a presentable series finale but instead, we got an incoherent, steaming pile of shit. Expectations subverted!
We expected all of that character development to actually result in a beautiful pay-off that respects the journey of self-discovery each and every one of our beloved characters went through to get to where they are now but instead, we got a painful, disrespectful cycle of character regression. Expectations subverted!
We expected the final season of this show to keep us at the edge of our seats with thrilling writing that didn't subvert our expectations for the sake of subverting our expectations via low-quality shock value-seeking writing, but to introduce plot twists that make sense within the overall narrative of the story but instead, we got CW-level predictable, cringe material. Expectations subverted!
I get it. I really do. GRRM let them down by not getting the books ready in time and so they had to improvise away from his influence, but this? This? For a long while, Game of Thrones lived up to the slogan of its parent network, it wasn't just TV, it was something different, something unique and now to have to see it come to this... it's nothing short of disappointing.
On the bright side though, at least this episode didn't suck completely. The acting, score and cinematography were all on point, so I guess it's nice that I didn't walk out of it having appreciated absolutely nothing about it.
So why do I even bother anymore? I honestly could not tell you, though it's probably a mixture of masochism and a faint sliver of hope that they won't flush our collective investment into this series down the drain by the end of it, just one more episode dammit.
At one point I got bored. The scene where she falls off the stairs again and again, it seemed like sloppy writing to me. They could have come up with more creative and realistic ways that she could have died.
With one episode left, we get...was this an episode? Felt a bit more like an admission that they've never had any idea where they wanted this to go...
Should we pretend this season never happened?
why the cgi is so fucking lame???? Great episode but I couldn't help wonder about the bad cgi
Man, what a poor episode, lackluster after lackluster. If this is the culmination of the time and interest myself and others have invested into Game of Thrones all of these years, then it is truly unfortunate and disappointing if not almost bordering on an insult.
Such a shame that this will be the legacy of a series that once took the world by storm with its brilliant storytelling and exhilarating plot twists, hardly recognizable anymore when it parades around in a pathetic shell of its former self.
I can't say I'm excited nor even interested in the remaining episodes, at least not when this season has taught me time and again to lower my expectations as much as possible, but I hope they will at least respect what this series once was and offer a conclusion worthy of its story. sigh
i know a lot of yall are hoping for Even next season and the main reason ive seen so far is "representation for mental illness and lgbt" (which is literally what this season was) but even tho my ass is sapphic as fuck, i think im all done with white gays for now. having my fingers crossed for our lord and savior sana
UPDATE APRIL 10, 2017: HELL TO THE YES!! SHE GOT IT!! MY GIRL!! HELL YES
This is SO terrible, I love every second of it! A huge recommendation for fans of "so bad, it's good" films and shows. I was just riffing on this with my husband as we were watching, there was something to make fun of at all times. The last time I had this much fun with terrible material was Twilight.
The story of Priscilla and Elvis. We all know it…. But this movie kind of sucked…. There is absolutely no emotion between Elvis and Priscilla…. You can see them acting and badly. Also the height difference, wow! Too profound…I know it was there to prove a point but it goes into creepy…. And the courtship in the beginning really did have creepy vibes. I think this movie does not represent accurately…. No Elvis music…. Ok this pales in comparison to the Elvis movie of Baz…. Disappointed…
i cannot believe this is a real tv show and i also cannot believe i watched this fml
[9.5/10] You don’t expect It’s Always Sunny to get serious. Not even a little bit. Sure, there’s been hints of it before, whether it’s The Gang’s boat rescue a couple of seasons ago or Dennis leaving last season. But it’s typically pretty brief, so the show can get back to its delightfully deranged brand of comedy.
That’s not what happens in “Mac Finds His Pride.” Even beyond the boffo final performance, this is an episode centered squarely on Mac coming to terms with his homosexualty and self-identity and resolving those things with his old life and the people in it, especially his dad. That’s heavy stuff!
Granted, most of the episode isn’t that heavy. Sojourns to a BDSM club or a drag queen show as Frank’s solutions to Mac’s problems feels like something early season IASIP would do. And there’s the running gag of grodiness of Frank continually shoving things in and out of his bleeding nose. And there’s a solid number of amusing bits of Charlie and Dee chastising Frank because he “had one job” to retrieve a dancing Mac and hadn’t managed it.
But holy hell, this episode is basically a two-man story featuring Mac trying to express his inner turmoil and Frank learning to understand it. The metaphor the episode uses -- of Frank needing to stop trying to stem the bleeding and let it run out so that the healing can begin -- is a bit on the nose (so to speak), but at least adds a point to all that trademark Frank grossness in the episode.
And my god, the dance! Reading about what Rob McElhenney went through in order to be able to perform that makes it all the more impressive, but even without that knowledge, it stands on its own as a beautiful, artistic surprise. There is such legitimate emotion and artistry in that sequence. You don’t anticipate IASIP being affecting, but I have to admit, when the music swelled, and Mac’s dance partnered moved in concert but also in tension with him, or cradled him, on a rain-soaked stage, it was hard not to feel your heartstrings rent amid the beauty, talent, and pathos on display.
Make no mistake, there’s real emotion in these scenes and this episode. There’s legitimate arcs for both Mac and Frank here, and they’re not easy sitcom arcs either. Mac is, after so much internal struggle, finally able to express himself through art. But as he so feared, he loses his dad in the process. That too is heart-rending, and the effect it has on Mac is sadly moving.
But when Mac loses one dad’s understanding, he gains another (surrogate) dad’s understanding. I love the choice to have Frank admit that he “doesn't get it” and never really got Mac at all. It ties into a certain perspective of an older generation, one IASIP often uses Frank as a stand-in for, that may accept gay people but still just not really grok homosexuality in a way that younger generations, who were more socialized with LGBT acceptance in society, might be able to.
But in the end, he does! For however long Danny DeVito has played a deranged troll on IASIP, it’s been enough to make you forget that he’s a really good dramatic actor! Seeing him admit his lack of understanding, eventually encourage Mac, and then tear up when, through the majesty of dance, he finally does understand him, is incredible. The idea at play here, that by interpreting the “storm” inside himself through dance, by coming up with artistic representations of the light and dark inside of him, Mac can reach people and find his place is a moving, life-affirming one.
I ask you, what can’t this show do? What started as a clever enough hangout show that devolved into raunch and edginess whenever it fell into a jam has evolved into a series that is just as ribald, just as boundary pushing, but also fiercely intelligent and ready to push whatever boundaries and expectations people have of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Every year, it seems to top itself in terms of where it takes these characters, what it’s able to pull off, and even the level of emotional depth its able to wring from these self-admittedly terrible people. Thirteen seasons in, It’s Always Sunny has delivered its best season yet, buoyed by Mac’s striking, emotional finale, and that alone is an accomplishment.
I loved it. Ruby is brilliant. I don't get how people can say that the 15th isn't doctor-like. Basically Matt Smith's doctor no? I'm hyped.
I'm holding space for the fact that i might be a dumb dumb but I truly don't understand the purpose of this season. like broadly what the overarching goals of the story are. the shift from season 1s serialized plot structure to more episodic fair is deeply confusing for me
What was the moral of this story? That there is no moral in Hollywood? Also the grown-ups are even worse than the kids. Seriously. Eli Roth goes from being so annoyed with their performances to being super enthusiastic. Like wtf?! Joslyn thrusting all over Eli Roth was a cringe fest. Why was this drama with Joslyn's ex introduced at all? And then she says Tedros is the love of her life? What in the actual hell? Why did we all watch this? Why was this made? This is not serious.
We are moving on from Succession into this?
I don't know what this show wants to be, satire or erotic thriller? It was so all over the place that made me confused about what I was watching. This show is like Sam Levinson hitting back at his critics (mocking the intimacy coordinator, portrayal of sex, drugs, etc.) for negative reviews for content he created in the past. Levinson is one of those directors who fancy themselves as provocative when in truth they have nothing original to say and use graphic content to distract viewers from that fact.
The show is just dull and boring. I feel like it thinks it’s more edgy than it is. Is anyone really shocked my nudity anymore?
The acting is so wooden and everyone just seems a bit surface level. The Weeknd has no charisma. You can’t see why Jocelyn is so attracted to him and let’s him do what he wants. And why did they give him the worst hairstyle imaginable? I’m surprised some people liked Lily’s acting. She is not that terrible but she’s just trying too hard with her expressions.Jocelyn and Tedros have all the chemistry of oil and water, and their relationship was given not even 60 seconds to develop. Jocelyn's song was painfully bad, it sounds like they came up with the melody first and then had an AI write the lyrics.
The dialogues are just edgy and trying to go for shock value every second. You can tell this show is written by a male that watches way too much porn.
I'm going to miss Jodie as The Doctor!
Is this just me or the fifth episode was just a weak sauce, pathetic king, a looser hand, a childish groom and what a disaster fight scene. I can't see any good coming out of this series so far. Even CGI look very unfinished.
That was a perfect episode! Nothing boring or poorly written at all! Emmy award winning performances by the entire cast!!! Unicorns were flying out of people's butts and no one's poop smelled bad anymore. Thrones is back baby!
Did I do that right?
In reality, after three episodes I find no one interesting at all and there's no standout performances whatsoever. The CGI makes me feel like I'm watching some penny-pinching Netflix production. Everything is so predictable in this episode just like last week. What a dumb-downed poorly written screenplay this is turning out to be...can't wait until the big time jump...
This is the type of episode that will weed out the boomers and the homophobes—don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!
Booooooooooooo! Booooooo! throws vegetables at TV and hissing in Peasantry
This may have been the most boring tv episode I have ever watched. This season was like, ok, we don't want to do this show anymore lets wrap it up as quick as possible, but the last episode lets just have everyone sit around and talk.
I'm glad this is almost over
Melisandre: What do we say to the God of good episodes? Writers: Not today!
I feel like the writers are trying to insult people's intelligence this season.
Writer of the episode said that, and I quote ''Dany kind of forgot about Euron's fleet, but they haven't forgotten about her..'' She forgot. Everyone mentions the fleet 3 scenes before they show up and she was in that scene.
Not only did Dany suddenly suffer from concussion and forgot about them, she also couldn't see the entire fleet while flying high in the air. But tbf, they were hiding behind little rocks so she could not see them. Then Rhaegal gets hit 3 times in 3 tries, but when Dany goes straight at Euron (and does nothing) every arrow misses Drogon, of course. But then they destroy Dany's ships in a single minute, no misses there again, I'm afraid.
There were more bad things in this episode, like how no one else noticed Bronn (with big crossbow) in Winterfell, how no one asked for Arya's and Bran's help against Cersei, how Sam didn't ask Jon why he didn't help him in the last episode when he was lying on the ground, why Cersei didn't just kill everyone in that last scene, etc.. but the thing I hated the most was when characters were about to finally learn about Aegon Targaryen and then the show would just cut away from those scenes. We have time for those drinking games and romantic soap opera parts of the episode, but we cut away from Sansa's, Tyrion's and Arya's reaction about AT. Nice writing and directing.
The only scene that I liked and that reminded me of old GOT (S1-S4) was Tyrion and Varys conversation.. until Varys said that he'll betray Dany. Writers are probably going to kill him in the next episode because of that. In earlier seasons that character would never say his real thoughts, he would lie to Tyrion and then quietly spread info about Jon's true identity everywhere.
This is just.. sad.