This episode was fucking great! Just perfect.
BISEXUAL CLARKE GRIFFIN IS CANON
Surprisingly quite good, at first glance you'd expect a generic cop show but this one is actually enjoyable.
Something like this comment was originally a reply to @Pedro, but I thought I'd put it here.
This show starts a little slow. It does that thing where the first few episodes are your typical boring cop procedural to show the network they know how to paint by numbers. Then it picks up.
It starts actually exploring the morals of mass surveillance, and (minor spoilers) it turns out the Machine is an AI, and they deal with all the interesting ramifications of living in a world secretly run by a benevolent(?) AI. One of the nice aspects of this show is the only fictional element of the Machine is software. Makes for a very grounded science fiction.
The characters start to deal with total corruption of the police system and attempt to take it down, meanwhile learning and redeeming themselves from their dubious past.
They also deal with taking down organised crime, and what to do when someone tries to consolidate power within the families, even though the new boss is less violent.
They get caught up in vast government conspiracies waging massive secret intelligence wars, and must stop innocent people from getting killed while remaining hidden from powerful people.
Heartbreak, romance, homoerotic sexual tension, SciFi, shooting people, explosions!
They stop making another cop show and start making some really compelling television.
I have to say, from season to season I find myself liking felicity less and less. She is so one dimensional...
Malcolm: And no offense none of you are particularly good actors.
Tell me that was not funny :-P
With every episode I wonder "how in the world can they top that?" And yet with each new episode, I am blown away by how amazing it is. There are no low points in this show. Each episode builds beautifully off of the previous one.
Series Guide says I've watched over 50 days of TV shows and yet this is still my favorite. It's such a geniusly made show.
"Well, well if it isn't Raylan Givens." You'll hear this about 10,000 times more.
Not disapointed at all. The best season finale they could have done : they've offered a conclusion to all of this season's overarching plots while still managing to introduce new ones I can't wait to see on screen this fall. Liv and Major's relationship is going somewhere, at last !
holy.......................... this was me for 60 minutes: "wtf? WTF!"
Enjoyed this one. Not epic, but better then the imdb 6.1 imho.
I'm avoiding subways and will not set foot in Paris for a while though.
Found footage can be better than this. Seems un-assumed here as they still want to use classic scenery effects. Just looks a really common hollywood movie forced into the found footage genre to me.
The characters were such smug, hip twonks. I loved watching them mess their trousers and die
This movie honestly changed my swimming habits at the beach. Good flick.
That last scene. That's the show i fell in love with.
Starts off pretty bad then all of a sudden you've been awake for 20 hours and binge watched the entire thing.
Persevere through those initial few bad episodes and you're in for a right treat.
better and better, is in my top 3 the best tv show!
I started to watch this a few weeks ago as the "next" big project to watch after finishing X-Files that I never fully watched as I was a bit too young when it originally aired and only seen a few episodes in the later seasons.
I must say this has some resemblance to the X-Files but only in terms of the "monster of the week" episodes. I like that.
But this show lacks the ingenuity that X-Files has with the most of the time incredibly great scripts and the overall fantastic cast.
Nick, the Grimm (David Giuntoli) is a terrible, terrible miscast. I have watched the first two seasons now and I still really dislike that guy and still think another person would have been better for this role. So far, the show is greatly carried by Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell), Rosalee (Bree Turner) and Captain Renard (Sasha Roiz).
It is said that the Grimm has some "powers" that make him who he is, additionally he is a Detective, making him, generally, somewhat smart figuring stuff out to solve cases. But when it is about Grimm stuff, he is stupid as f*ck for plot reasons only, even if they are obvious.
There's also this gimmick of his phone ringing, interrupting whatever he is just doing. This is probably the most annoying thing in this whole show, starting to seriously piss me off. This show pushes this really, really hard to a point, where you start to anticipate it in any kind of precarious situation that would solve plots right there if it wouldn't ring and in 9 out of 10 cases (felt) it does ring..
Just as unlikable as David is, so is Russell Hornsby (Hank) overstrained as an actor with his role as it seems. He is such a sterile cardboard character that I wouldn't mind if he gets killed off as cannonfodder at some point, there's no (believable) depth to his character at all.
The Juliette arc was awful as well, it held the complete show back in terms of progressing deeper into the Grimm story. The time that is put in here could have been better used when cut in third, the rest of the time put into more monster of the week episodes or to flesh out Hank's backstory.
The Juliette arc and Hank's arc to get to know the Grimm world were both overly dramatic and as I said for Juliette's part too much.
If you'd see someone change his appearance before your eyes after you shot him, you wouldn't go insane, you'd try hard to rationalize what you've seen. You'd think you're overworked, or tired. That the scenery played tricks on your eye or something. You might be shocked, at least for the moment, but you wouldn't start to become whiny as Hank did.
As a German the pronounciation of all the words could be improved immensely. I have to watch some episodes in German to see how they translate it or deal with it in general.
Can't be good, synchronization is terrible most of the time, the German voice of Rajesh ("The Indian Guy") from the Big Bang Theory is (yet?) borderline racist.
Some of the words seem to be very, very literal translations, like Glühenwolk[e]. "Glowing cloud", I assume, Glühen = Glowing, Wolke = Cloud but Glühenwolk[e] makes no sense, that's not proper German, correct would be "glühende Wolke". Glühenwolk[e] is like saying "glow cloud". They did this a couple of times with names.
There also seems to be only a single person on this show who tries to pronounce the German as correctly as possible most of the times: Monroe.
When he says more than a single word, he really tries and it shows - and pays off. He does a good job here.
Really lazy and almost bored seems David by doing so. He lacks passion in his job, he is so not trying because he doesn't care. As I said, miscast person.
There are some pet peeves that I have, aside some forgivable grammatical errors, though:
The pronounciation of Löwe or plural Löwen as it is used here. It is spelled like "lawn" just with an o as in "lown". Couldn't be more wrong. It's better to say "lowe" like "lo" and "we" as in whe[re].
Another word is Wesen, all creatures who are able to "vogue" or "woga", some word I can't identify. Wesen means creature or better: being. They say it like "Vessin".
And of course this woga thing. Still trying to figure out what they say here. There are probably more that annoy me but these three come to mind first.
You would assume they'd hire someone who speaks proper German for a show where German is such a centric part. But they apparently didn't, or took someone who had a German course in college but didn't do anything there.
That is somewhat disappointing.
Overall, this show has mixed qualities. Episodes are a complete up and down from week to week, depending on what the topic is but are usually - when good - only okayish, never really outstanding. There's no brilliance in this but it is able to entertain you, especially when Monroe and Rosalee have a good portion of appearance in the episodes.
Where do we get the news from now on?
Grimm is become really uninteresting and repetitive, its hard to keep pace with something so boring every week :/ Good stuff in an episode only comes in bits and pieces.
Can't believe people are bashing this show already. Give it a chance, it won't be the same as TWD in one episode.
Andre Braugher and Robert Sean Leonard in one episode. AWESOME.
also: why is everyone so mean to Carisi? He sucked in the beginning but he's come a long way. I think hazing time is over now, guys.
Why do people hate on a movie JUST BECAUSE it's a remake? While it's true that most remakes don't turn out as good as their originals, its completely wrong to make that assumption 100% of the time. I've seen this movie as well as The Departed and I must say the latter's story was fleshed out a bit more and believable. Don't get me wrong, this movie deserves all the praise it received, but the remake took its story and made subtle improvements to its betterment. All this "watch this and not the remake" talk is just nonsense.
"It's just a flying saucer, Ed. We gotta go." lol, Peggy kills me.
Absolutely amazing series. People who have not latched on to this yet are missing out.
Good acting, it is a shame they went with the Scooby Doo writers guild. They had so many options for the writers to do more than making just another cop show. Zombies, crime writers, cops from the future, people with amnesia all fighting crime. Seems that the only professions that exist in TV land are cop, cop sidekick, doctor or lawyer.
Awesome plot twist! Didn't expect that at all from Dobbs! Season 4 sure is going to be very interesting! This series only gets better every next season
I REALLY don't get why most people didn't like it. In my opinion it really worked quite neatly
Wow, they actually killed Laurel, The Black Canary, but before she died she gave her blessing to "Olicity"?!!?!?!?!?! First Sara (but at least she came back only to go to another show), then Laurel, so I guess this means they'll kill of Lance next since he really has no purpose anymore. Oh wait, he's precious Felicity's mommy's stud muffin, so I'll guess he'll stick around and have tons to do! OMG, they can go shopping and buy Felicity and Oliver things for their apartment and clothes for their baby! When will this soap opera end and the real "Arrow" return?
a episode isnt bad because a character died, fu*k people who is downvoting here and IMBD because of Lexa's death, it was vital to move the plot foward, there was no other way and Lincoln died, yes, but we dont know the repercusions is going to have
also characthers die all the time in shows like this, get over it its FICTION, chill and enjoy the plot please.
edit: WTF with people harassing writers and producers of the show? the fanbase is disgusting
