Andre Braugher and Robert Sean Leonard in one episode. AWESOME.
also: why is everyone so mean to Carisi? He sucked in the beginning but he's come a long way. I think hazing time is over now, guys.
Oded Fehr was in the "Mummy" movies,
but I remember him most from "Sleeper Cell."
And, David Cronenberg, for writing, "The Brood," "The Fly," "Dead Ringers," "Naked Lunch," and, directing, "Dead Zone."
This ep was good, very good? Very much liked Saru's happy ending, and thought the distance between our leads as a parallel to our distance from the series... been a while, (they should've called), and, maybe it's hard to move past some things we're critical of.
Hope everyone's heard the news about the possible upcoming reboot of all things Trek, if the sale goes through. But, some things already in the pipeline are supposedly still going to materialize. I'm looking forward to Star Trek without Kurtzman!
This episode was fucking great! Just perfect.
Where do we get the news from now on?
Mostly the recommendation engine on this site is just laughable. But, likening this great concert to "Glee 3D" that's just insulting.
Surprisingly quite good, at first glance you'd expect a generic cop show but this one is actually enjoyable.
At least she didn't go crazy and burn all the innocent city folk.
I think I'm laughing out of shock. They really botched the ending!!
all of you saying this season is boring you're clearly not watching the same show I am? learn to have some fun.
There has to be way more to this. I can’t just end like that. Mine blown.
This show is crimially underwatched. It's so fucking great. One of the best of the current shows on TV maybe even all time. Excited for the new season.
I like this episode. Awesome planetary system, nice desert planet, the return of the interesting Tron suits, a concise goal for that away mission. First time it makes actually sense that the Captain goes on an away mission and it's one of the few times she's not saving the mission by acting like a super hero but instead works in a team. B-plot: a believable approach to the infiltration. The absence of stupid action scenes makes this show so much better. And not jumping from place to place makes the plot so much more believable. They encounter a mysterious place and an interesting species. An interesting way of conveying feelings and communication in general. This is the first time talking about feelings actually did make sense. Though they could have easily cut the eves dropping part with Adira talking about her insecurity, the training course in employee motivation and the "we're back let's blow some steam off in that cozy piano bar and talk about how we're doing" parts. All of that isn't totally BS but isn't it a bit too late into this season to start such character development? I mean, don't they have a ship to infiltrate, don't they need to act quickly because multiple worlds are on the brink of extinction and do they really need a "thumbs up" from a superior to be motivated in such a situation?
But as I said, I like this episode. Feels like Star Trek.
I was not expecting it to end so suddenly, I fully believed it was the last episode of the season, can't wait to see how it's all resolved.
As a side note, I'm glad to see more positive comments than negative comments here. Is it too much to hope that those who only commented negatively for the sake of being negative have finally stopped watching?
Absolutely amazing series. People who have not latched on to this yet are missing out.
As a super-fan of the original I have to say...I actually didn't hate it. The acting and tone was much more mature than the trailer implied it would be. The writers made some interesting plot and character choices, the changes were welcome, the premise works. Although not all the jokes land and the effects in the final fight reeked of CW superhero show, for a pilot it was a solid start. The actresses as well do a great job of being likable while still leaving room for growth with their parts. The cliffhanger was an interesting turn excited to see where it goes.
it's not that bad if you don't know the source material, but kate bishop is my favorite comic character and fraction's hawkeye is incredible and compared to that, this falls short
The characters were such smug, hip twonks. I loved watching them mess their trousers and die
Why do people hate on a movie JUST BECAUSE it's a remake? While it's true that most remakes don't turn out as good as their originals, its completely wrong to make that assumption 100% of the time. I've seen this movie as well as The Departed and I must say the latter's story was fleshed out a bit more and believable. Don't get me wrong, this movie deserves all the praise it received, but the remake took its story and made subtle improvements to its betterment. All this "watch this and not the remake" talk is just nonsense.
This movie honestly changed my swimming habits at the beach. Good flick.
Grimm is become really uninteresting and repetitive, its hard to keep pace with something so boring every week :/ Good stuff in an episode only comes in bits and pieces.
Awesome plot twist! Didn't expect that at all from Dobbs! Season 4 sure is going to be very interesting! This series only gets better every next season
Crane was one of the best characters in a show in a long time. Also the chemistry between the lead characters was very good and so was the main plot of the 1st 2 seasons.. after that it all goes downhill.
Normally it doesn't "hurt" to give up shows, but this one did... im going to miss good old Crane . I dont have any hopes for this show to go back to its original form.
People complain about a movie being slow as if a two and a quarter hour meditation is somehow a bigger crime than fifty hours of deadening CGI about a purple man getting a magic mitten.
I started to watch this a few weeks ago as the "next" big project to watch after finishing X-Files that I never fully watched as I was a bit too young when it originally aired and only seen a few episodes in the later seasons.
I must say this has some resemblance to the X-Files but only in terms of the "monster of the week" episodes. I like that.
But this show lacks the ingenuity that X-Files has with the most of the time incredibly great scripts and the overall fantastic cast.
Nick, the Grimm (David Giuntoli) is a terrible, terrible miscast. I have watched the first two seasons now and I still really dislike that guy and still think another person would have been better for this role. So far, the show is greatly carried by Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell), Rosalee (Bree Turner) and Captain Renard (Sasha Roiz).
It is said that the Grimm has some "powers" that make him who he is, additionally he is a Detective, making him, generally, somewhat smart figuring stuff out to solve cases. But when it is about Grimm stuff, he is stupid as f*ck for plot reasons only, even if they are obvious.
There's also this gimmick of his phone ringing, interrupting whatever he is just doing. This is probably the most annoying thing in this whole show, starting to seriously piss me off. This show pushes this really, really hard to a point, where you start to anticipate it in any kind of precarious situation that would solve plots right there if it wouldn't ring and in 9 out of 10 cases (felt) it does ring..
Just as unlikable as David is, so is Russell Hornsby (Hank) overstrained as an actor with his role as it seems. He is such a sterile cardboard character that I wouldn't mind if he gets killed off as cannonfodder at some point, there's no (believable) depth to his character at all.
The Juliette arc was awful as well, it held the complete show back in terms of progressing deeper into the Grimm story. The time that is put in here could have been better used when cut in third, the rest of the time put into more monster of the week episodes or to flesh out Hank's backstory.
The Juliette arc and Hank's arc to get to know the Grimm world were both overly dramatic and as I said for Juliette's part too much.
If you'd see someone change his appearance before your eyes after you shot him, you wouldn't go insane, you'd try hard to rationalize what you've seen. You'd think you're overworked, or tired. That the scenery played tricks on your eye or something. You might be shocked, at least for the moment, but you wouldn't start to become whiny as Hank did.
As a German the pronounciation of all the words could be improved immensely. I have to watch some episodes in German to see how they translate it or deal with it in general.
Can't be good, synchronization is terrible most of the time, the German voice of Rajesh ("The Indian Guy") from the Big Bang Theory is (yet?) borderline racist.
Some of the words seem to be very, very literal translations, like Glühenwolk[e]. "Glowing cloud", I assume, Glühen = Glowing, Wolke = Cloud but Glühenwolk[e] makes no sense, that's not proper German, correct would be "glühende Wolke". Glühenwolk[e] is like saying "glow cloud". They did this a couple of times with names.
There also seems to be only a single person on this show who tries to pronounce the German as correctly as possible most of the times: Monroe.
When he says more than a single word, he really tries and it shows - and pays off. He does a good job here.
Really lazy and almost bored seems David by doing so. He lacks passion in his job, he is so not trying because he doesn't care. As I said, miscast person.
There are some pet peeves that I have, aside some forgivable grammatical errors, though:
The pronounciation of Löwe or plural Löwen as it is used here. It is spelled like "lawn" just with an o as in "lown". Couldn't be more wrong. It's better to say "lowe" like "lo" and "we" as in whe[re].
Another word is Wesen, all creatures who are able to "vogue" or "woga", some word I can't identify. Wesen means creature or better: being. They say it like "Vessin".
And of course this woga thing. Still trying to figure out what they say here. There are probably more that annoy me but these three come to mind first.
You would assume they'd hire someone who speaks proper German for a show where German is such a centric part. But they apparently didn't, or took someone who had a German course in college but didn't do anything there.
That is somewhat disappointing.
Overall, this show has mixed qualities. Episodes are a complete up and down from week to week, depending on what the topic is but are usually - when good - only okayish, never really outstanding. There's no brilliance in this but it is able to entertain you, especially when Monroe and Rosalee have a good portion of appearance in the episodes.
Not disapointed at all. The best season finale they could have done : they've offered a conclusion to all of this season's overarching plots while still managing to introduce new ones I can't wait to see on screen this fall. Liv and Major's relationship is going somewhere, at last !
I'm just going to start off by listing the 3 shittiest things that He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named did in this episode, okay? By the way, please enlighten me, how does a dude who does multiple shitty things per episode even stand a chance with Kara, let alone actually get together with her?
Calling Kara helping people as Supergirl "little superhero-ing".
Immediately disregarding Kara's wishes and telling everyone about their relationship.
Ignoring what Kara said (again) and trying to brush it off (again).
I just don't get it. A part of me thinks, or hopes, that the writers are doing this on purpose to show what a toxic relationship looks like and how not to treat your significant other, but let's be real, that's probably not it. They actually seem to think that this shit is cute and romantic. And it makes me sick.
Sure, Man-Hell was right about Jeremiah. But contrary to popular belief, the end doesn't justify the means. He could have proved his point without being an asshole. But I guess that's just how he rolls, right? And we're supposed to let it slide because... he's conventionally attractive?
Honestly, fuck this guy.
Alex's confrontation with Jeremiah was a powerful moment and Chyler Leigh once again brought her A-game.
How long will I have to scream into the void about Maggie's lack of screentime before someone finally hears me? I can't believe the showrunners think I'm more interested in What's-His-Face than in this amazing woman, who:
is simultaneously an absolute badass and the softest human being I have ever seen (those dimples, man, Jesus Christ, what a bae)
was outed to her parents and kicked out of the house at 14
is such a good detective that she figured out Kara's secret by herself
is a good, pure, unproblematic fave who deserves better.
I have no dignity left anymore, I will literally beg if I have to. I'll sell my soul if that's what it takes to get her a proper storyline. Sure, the family dinner thing was cute, and the way she comforted Alex was wonderful. Maggie Sawyer is a kind, supportive girlfriend who listens to Alex and is always there for her, and the way they keep trying to draw parallels between Sanvers and Karamel lowkey makes me want to die. They're not similar! At all! Not in a million years! One is based on mutual love, respect and support, and the other is an abusive garbage fire. I'm starting a campaign. Let Maggie Sawyer deck Fuckboy in the face 2017.
And another thing: I guess Karamel can be all over each other, make out, wake up in bed naked after obviously having sex, but God forbid Maggie and Alex do anything more than kiss for exactly 1.5 seconds. No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?
Does Cadmus want to send all aliens back into space? Hey, here's a thought: maybe they can use that big-ass ship to launch Mayo-El into the Phantom Zone? Pretty please?
You know, I think what Dee Bradley Baker does with his voice, Doug Jones does with his body -- that thing he does with his arms as he walks is so alien, and graceful.
That was such a satisfying episode -- the show could end now, and I'd be happy. But, i hope it keeps going (and, I hope they do more Short Treks)!
[Edited by me to remove political statement. My apologies to the group -- this is not the forum for politics.]
Found footage can be better than this. Seems un-assumed here as they still want to use classic scenery effects. Just looks a really common hollywood movie forced into the found footage genre to me.
This episode is rightly lauded as one of the best of the entire franchise. It's emotional, powerful and thoughtful and exemplifies exactly what the show is about. But, and I am frustrated with myself for saying this, I don't really love it all that much. This could be a product of having seen it a bit too often, or having it always rammed down my throat as BEST TREK EVAH!1!!
I get it, it IS quite wonderful, but I've always found it to highlight The Next Generation's inherent weakness, and that is that the episodic nature of the show. This is an episode that absolutely demanded to have repercussions for Picard as a character, and there are absolutely none. It should have utterly changed him as a person. The fact that this is such a self-contained episode makes it lose its power somewhat for me. Much in the same way that Worf is completely fine following 'Ethics' or that Riker falls in love but has forgotten all about it after 'The Outcast', TNG tells fantastic stories that you can dip in and out of at any time but so rarely rewards the viewer for watching.
