On the whole, I really enjoyed this series, even if it ultimately turned left where I was expecting it to turn right. Or, in the show’s terms, it interpolated (putting Lilly and Forest within the system) rather than exterpolated (exploring the idea of reality itself being a simulation from the start). The latter is something that was hinted around the edges in dialogue but never explicitly stated or explored. Are we supposed to think that Forest and Lilly are now living in a simulation but that Katie is controlling it from the “real world”, for example? Because I think Katie’s world, the world of episodes 1-7, is a simulation, too.
I’m also left with a few parts that either feel inadequately explained or felt off, like:
Stewart’s role, and what he meant when he asked “Who is Mark Antony?” last episode.
How did Katie get out of Devs, once the electromagnetic tram fell and she was on the inside? We saw a bridge later, but who put it there? I don’t think Stewart would have.
Pete, the homeless guy/Russian spy, was a Chekhov’s Gun the whole series so I wasn’t surprised that he fired in the last episode, but he certainly took me out of the moment. A spy would live homeless on the street for months, dancing in the park to the music of a busker with nobody watching, just because? That’s some dedicated spycraft right there.
This season has gotten worse and worse. What is the main plot exactly? Because it’s episode 6 and it seems like all episodes feel meandering, pointless, and aimless. The writing is disjointed and nothing is really happening.
Episode 6 is comically bad:
No offense meant here, but I don’t watch Yellowstone for a Jimmy spin off. Will he ever become a cowboy? Because the guy has been ranching for 3 seasons now and still looks like the new guy. I get on my phone during his scenes because it’s just scenic background music with Jimmy looking dumb.
Unpopular take: Beth Dutton gets less and less interesting every episode. Basically everything she says and does now is eyeroll inducing and ridiculous. Her ‘badass-ness’ is tiresome and predictable. Just the writers feeling 'what mean girl line can we come up with this time'. It feels redundant. Her lines to Summer Higgins were a new level of cringe-worthy for this series, wishing any type of cancer on anyone is a bridge too far. And I’m really over her and Jaime. Their scenes basically are: Jamie: “You’re going to destroy me” Beth: _“I’m going to destroy you”. This storyline needs to be resolve immediately.
Summer Higgins is the most stereotypical 'annoying animal activist, vegan girl' ever. It’s just lazy writing because this could have been an interesting and nuanced interaction between these characters who are completely different, but instead her character was built upon a foundation of clichés. And I know they were trying to make her requests seem absurd, but all they did was make John Dutton's chef look dumb. Yes, you can be a cowboy’s chef and still know what gluten is. Any cook who uses flour knows what gluten is.
Will ‘Boy’ ever shower, wash his hair? Because every week I'm like ‘he's still in the same clothes?’ And it seems like Beth completely forgot about him.
Every time I think Jamie is going to do something right, he chokes. He is so weak, it's cringe.
Kill off Monica. Let Kayce be a tragic sexy widower. I give Monica two episodes before she hates their new house, too.
Lloyd vs Walker - Had to fast-forward through that fight. I don’t know why they needed to waste so much screen time on it, so unnecessary. Not to mention how it was possible for Walker to fight like he is Mike Tyson after getting stabbed in the left shoulder the previous night.
Quite possibly the most moving anti-suicide message ever displayed across any medium. Maybe the most impressive achievement I've ever seen on TV
For someone who has dug graves before he sure doesn't know how to use a spade...
Otherwise a fine Episode.
Great cast and great writing so far.
Dam that was an uncredited Tom Hanks buried in that make up!!!
Jared just sealed his coffin and proved that he will never be with Michaela now after how he has treated 2 people badly with callings and didn't believe her. Stupid Jared.
Said it before, but it bears repeating: weaponizing old Fringe events is cool as hell. Although, I could've done without seeing the gross-as-shit squids again... (Seriously, that was hands down the worst episode of the series.) Leave it to Fringe to make use of their last opportunity to be weird.
I think I enjoyed S5 a little more this time than I did on my first viewing, but I still think it's the worst season. It ruined Observers, which is my favorite aspect of Fringe. A shame.
Overall, I like this show. But I wish it had less filler episodes, and also did not repeatedly have gross stuff. A lot of things felt like they wanted to get disgusting for the sake of being disgusting, which is not my jam. When the show focuses on the main plot, though, it really excels. It has a good plot... but there's so much that gets in the way of it.
This episode is greatly underrated and over criticized. It sets up many plots for seasons to come, May not be nonstop action but its an absolute must watch for the series.
I rarely ever rate anything with 10/10, but this episode would have qualified for the highest praise for at least three different reasons. Fantastic!
"If this was a male character it would be a straight-up sitcom, but because there's a woman as the main character there's all this moral twists and turns that somehow she has to navigate. The fact that half the sex scenes are dreams, and that 95% of those dreams are women dreaming, shows that this series caters to married women than want to see something risqué alone while having a bucket of ice-cream and dreaming of their formal slutty selves, before some kid or the husband demands attention from them." -noiseformind
On the first season, See presented and explored a post apocalyptic world where the civilization lost their ability to see. This concept opened up many interesting questions, but the series gradually degenerated into derivative storylines with weak writing ("I want to pray"). Nevertheless, I watched all the episodes on the merits of 3 characters: Boba Voss (always charismatic Jason Momoa), Tamacti Jun (bad ass Christian Camargo), and Maghra (beautiful Hera Hilmar) and expertly staged action sequences.
The second season pivots the series to Game of Thrones-style backdrop. Multiple factions and/or characters are vying to unite and rule the civilization: Edo Voss (recasted to Dave Bautista from Guardians of the Galaxy), Queen Kane, Maghra, and Harlan (fantastically played by Adrian Paul).
My favorite scene is the goodbye exchange between Baba and Kofun.
Baba: Kofun. Kofun. My son.
Listen to me.
Your and mother and I...
we raised you to be beautiful, not a warrior.
I don't want you to have to fight the way I had to.
I never imagined a life for you away from the Alkenny.
And I failed to prepare you.
Baba: After a touching farewell, he goes on a Ned Stark-style impossible mission to rescue his daughter Haniwa from his estranged and enemy brother Edo.
Wren: She tells Haniwa that while those who can see are not viewed as witches, Edo and his people will execute them. That begs the question. Edo employees a seeing child to find Baba, reinforcing Wren's discriminated victim arc. I am guessing she will turn to Haniwa's side.
Harlan: A great new addition to replace the best character, Tamacti Jun. He has shades of Little Finger, planting seeds into Maghra to betray Queen Kane (who is probably not as dumb and impulsive as she appears).
P.S. I don't like the new opening theme. Full orchestra score and busy graphics diminish the first season's atmospheric theme which perfectly encapsulated the series.
I think the half brother should be killed.
The fight scenes are cool, but two things bothers me.
1) In the fight scenes the villans are blind and deaf?!
If they are blind, I believe they improved hearing during the years, but in the fight scenes one person get a punch and the other person is near and don't hear!?
2) They are mute too?
Why they don't scream when they are hit? To some one hear and come to help.
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Why Haniwa choose to kill Bax instead Tamacti? Why?
Listen, she’s not the first woman to find God through an orgasm. :joy:
“Why didn’t you give me half?” yeah that moment sums up Kevin and Nora’s relationship, that they know they are not okay but they don’t do anything to stop each other cause they just don’t care, they are enabling each other with their madness, and that hotel room scene was just so perfect, both coming home after a day of insanity just to be all like “oh yeah cool” and I’m pretty sure Nora truly wanted to go through the machine, I wonder what the right answer was cause we saw that man say no and nora said yes, probably like someone said in the comments the right answer was “i don’t care, it’s not my world anymore”
That final shot was just perfect! I just hope Carrie Coon won all the awards with this performance!
Erm... I realize that the protagonists can't be just fired... but are they really worth many other hospitalworkers? Why keep them and not somebody else? It would have been more realistic to at least fire one of them: Why keep Reynolds (the deputy) but not the chief? (Granted, the triangle situation was tiresome but in the hierarchy Batiste had a better standing...) Why fire the Head of Neurology? And that conflict between Lauren and Casey was rendered moot when he was let go.
And we know that Max and Helen won't leave - so all the "bad" decisions are going to be reversed anyway.
Damn, the last 10-15 minutes had me crying. I wonder if we’ll ever find out the contents of the letter to Asher from his father.
Pretty solid start, though in typical Star Trek fashion too many of the characters are making stupid decisions without reason besides "the plot compels them".
Is their goal to make Wendy completely unlikable? Because they're succeeding. "I hate you and still don't forgive you but you need to do this thing for me or else." Childish.
The flagship fund plotline was terrible. Bonnie is an insufferable character. It's also not a compelling storyline to have people getting paid 6-7 figures whine about not being paid more. What a travesty that must be.
I'm hoping that slight hesitation at the end with Taylor means someone close to them will finally tell them they need to stop. This whole feud is literally their fault in the first place.
This episode feeds into what I was saying earlier - this season has gotten a bit too wacky. The fight was nonsense.
In the Evening? Huh, that's a fairly deep cut for a Led Zeppelin song. Wouldn't have ever expected to hear it on a show.
AAAAHHHHH!
"How did you find me, Kevin?"
"I went through the machine"
CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW EPIC THAT WOULD'VE BEEN?? And it was like the perfect setting, it looked very heavenly, and everyone was at peace and happy, there was a wedding and everyone seemed to have a good time, I was sure that was the afterlife/heaven/the beyond the machine.
I would give every cent I have (which it's not much but it's very worthy to me) to watch Nora's odyssey instead of those 35 minutes of pigeon madness, don't get me wrong, Nora's narration was beautiful and mesmerizing and I do believe her, but still I WANT TO WATCH IT, I'll never known satisfation in life until I get to see it, and I think 35 minutes would've been great to fit that. And it makes sense cause we know Nora went through, how else would we explain she being here? and also if the scientist is there he would be able to build the machine and probably he never thought about building/using it cause being reunited with the person you are missing you don't have that need, but I wonder if those in the 2% can also use the machine to pass through dimensions?
I went in not expecting an explanation of what happened, cause I thought it was a fact that we were never gonna get one, and I was ok w it cause I thought no explanation would be good enough until Nora said "FOR US A FEW OF THEM ARE MISSING, FOR THEM ALL OF US ARE MISSING" WHAT... that was so perfect! better than anything I could've dreamed about, it makes sense and it doesn't use a religious non-sense and I think that also gives a lot of answers to other supernatural stuff that happened, like if science allows for interdimensional travel, it can be that a man has a round ticket to the afterlife, so it was just so satisfying.
And reading all the comments, you guys are right, IT IS A LOVE STORY, it was all about Nora and Kevin letting go of everything other than life and to find each other over and over again, so this is a love story for the ages, but Kevin was so wrong for pretending not to know Nora, it was so trippy!
I'm so glad Laurie is still alive and most importantly LIVING HER LIFE!
I still have a lot of questions and I think this show needed a couple more seasons, it's just amazing, I'm gonna check out the books and blogs to see if any of those can answer my questions. I think my main question is what did maggie's mom was supposed to tell her? was Wayne for real? is Lily a magic baby? What was Kevin's wish? what the fck was going on w Evie? what happened to the kids' shoes? and that's just on the top of my head.
SAME TIME NEXT WEEK?!
After Episode 6, I had to binge the rest. After the first part of this series, I wanted Otis/Ruby to be the endgame - loved her coming to the rescue in the previous episode! I think a show like Sex Education is a show that can be bold and admit that something worked better than they expected and change the long term plans. However, they did just enough with Otis and Maeve that I won't be disappointed if they don't.
I cannot believe we're in a position now at the end of Season 3 where we're actively rooting for both Adam and Michael Groff. Aimee continues to also be the best (poor Steve, though, he is lovely but Aimee did need to do that). I'm also surprised at just how pleased I was to see Lily back to herself. I am reminded of Ted Lasso with this show in the sense they do a very good job of creating whole characters (and not just because Hannah Waddingham exists in both).
[lowkey pissed they are seemingly are pulling 'Jakob's not the father' on us]
wonderful season. S4 is official.
This is truly a well put show. And one where there is no forced sexuality or race or gender. Everything feels pretty natural and real life-like. I have liked characters that if they were "forced" in other setting (which is something that Netflix specially tends to do), they would probably won't work for me. Eric still keeps being amazing and his relation with Otis feels very genuine (although i think he wasn't in his best behaviour this season). Adam's character keeps developing even more, and the actor was able to really capture this evolution (from a "no-emotion" bulk bully to a guy that feels confident enough to say "i'm pretty"). I think the next season should be the last one before it gets stretch too much. This end-season wasn't bad at all if it were a finale, but i really wouldn't mind to see a new one. The story is so wide that keeps you hooked enough to want more. Cheers to Netflix for this one
Brilliant season. Oh, and Bark Wahlberg :joy:.
Netflix loves to cancel its shows without warning, and it especially loves canceling them after 3 seasons, so I'm about 60% sure this is goodbye. But then again, Sex Education has been a huge hit for them, so I guess we might get a renewal.
If this is the series finale, it's pretty good. Unlike last season, there aren't any major loose ends left. The only storyline that hasn't been resolved is the paternity of baby Joy. Judging by Jean's reaction, it's not good news for Jakob.
As much as I disliked Hope all season, I enjoyed her conversation with Otis. It made her feel a bit more human, even if she is still deeply terrible.
The Groffs had a great storyline. I loved seeing Adam and Michael grow in their own ways. If we do get another season, I hope they explore their relationship a bit more. It's sad that things didn't work out for Adam and Eric, but maybe it's for the best. Eric clearly has some things to work through before he's ready to commit to one person. And seeing Adam discover his talent and passion was lovely. He didn't win, but he still achieved something really impressive all on his own.
I'm glad Aimee knocked some sense into Maeve. Their friendship is genuinely one of the best parts of the show. We didn't get a lot of Otis and Maeve in this episode, but if this is the end of the road, Maeve got a very fitting and satisfying ending. She finally has a family and she's off to do her thing in America. She deserves the world and finally she's getting it. And things with her and Otis are left open ended and hopeful. Even though they can't know if they'll still be right for each other when she returns, they're both willing to give it a shot. That's good enough for me.
I do hope this show comes back. I really do. There's something so quirky and unique about it, the storylines are great and the cast is excellent. It's truly a gem. But I'm keeping my expectations low just in case. Netflix has disappointed me many times before.
WHY WOULD THEY STAY IN THE MOST CHAOTIC AND DAMNED PLACE ON EARTH???
It’s cool to see that Jarden is now open to everyone, don’t get me wrong I hate Jarden and if it were a real place after a departure I would never set foot there, but they couldn’t be all like yeah we let you have a taste of it by visiting or letting you camp in the national park but you can’t truly be in, if the locals were smart they would’ve never try to market their town as Miracle.
I was so mad watching Matt use Mary and their son as a circus attraction, so I’m really glad they are leaving!!! Matt loves being a martyr and to suffer, so a healthy Mary doesn’t fit his agenda, and imagine being like in a coma and you wake up in the most chaotic place ever, probably all you want is to go home.
And for god’s sake, Kevin is no fkcing jesus, he’s a very lucky bastard but not jesus. Matt really is a sick individual who clings onto anything to justify his faith.
And in some twisted way I wanted to see more of Maggie so I’m gonna miss her, I’m sad they gave her so a permanent ending.
I wonder what happens that makes Nora changer her name to Sarah and move to the end of the world.
Oof... what Hope just did. There are teachers who will do whatever it takes to maintain 'control'. I felt so bad for them. Especially Lily. This is the sort of shit that will break a person. I hope we get to see her get her spark back!
Why why why must the writers toy with our hearts so much! I was so nervous when Eric was in Nigeria! and I'm so mad he kissed Oba! Adam is back home trying to think of ways to express how much he cares for Eric and truly making an effort. It's crazy how much I started to love Adam!
Wow. That school is getting more and more f:asterisk_symbol:d up by the episode. These are… medieval methods, I’m appalled. It’s ridiculous. And that not more students stood up? It’s obviously wrong. I’m guessing she went through similar things in her youth (although, at the same facility?)
But reigning in fear… and the manipulation...
In her office I thought "Woah, Viv should record this", but then she left the office and... f yeah.
Interesting that Eric's granny said "they", if she were as stuck up/backwards, she'd just have stuck with "she" :thinking:
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