Pros
+ Tyrion Getting kidnapped by Jorah
+ Jon and Stannis material
+ Cersei, High Septon, and Margaery stuffCons
-- Littlefinger's plan is the dumbest thing they could have come up with
- Arya's training is feeling rushed already
-- Very little actually happens in this episodeloading replies
I did read the books, marrying Harrold Hardyng makes complete sense, sending Sansa to marry a known psychopath because he thinks she might be able to use him (even though she clearly wont) is absolutely retarded. Littlefinger is supposed to be a guy who knows everything about everyone and only makes smart bets from behind closed doors, not a guy who does random shit that may easily turn into a catastrophe, especially when he's betting literally the one person who he gives a shit about. it goes against every fiber of his character
F...., never been so angry for an episode ending before now..... (Read the book)
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Sansa does not marry Ramsey at all, for example. This season is going entirely off the rails. Game of Thrones sucks now tbh.
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VIP7Everyone is so mad and I don't get it. You want the show to be sunshine and rainbows? You want the characters to start considering "oh but I don't want to hurt any of the viewers feelings". If you didn't see that coming, can't foresee just how drastic the Sansa/Theon story line may become, then you are blind. This is not a happy show, and this is not the worst thing I've seen on it.
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@kvdsteege >But you draw the line at an off screen sex act that can barely be called rape at all. Sansa agreed to marry Ramsay and knew that he would bed her. She never said no or protested. She knew she had to do it. It was horrible, but she consented.
This is rape apologia. Marital rape is real. Google it.
Shout by kvdsteege
VIP7Everyone is so mad and I don't get it. You want the show to be sunshine and rainbows? You want the characters to start considering "oh but I don't want to hurt any of the viewers feelings". If you didn't see that coming, can't foresee just how drastic the Sansa/Theon story line may become, then you are blind. This is not a happy show, and this is not the worst thing I've seen on it.
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@frankjacob oh, noes!
Lmao, the irony of you complaining about insensitivity while repeating "it's just a tv show, bro"
It's clear that the writers value shocks and twists over characters with consistent motivations.
Edit: I'll remember Stannis as he was.
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Yeah, I can clearly see the "do anything necessary" theme that they've shown with the character in the show. I just wish that his book theme - duty above all else - would have made an appearance. His duty to his daughter and only living heir is more important to what I personally thought his character valued.
I know that Azor Ahai had to make sacrifices in the prophecy and Stannis himself has said that true sacrifices have to hurt, or else they're not true. This just seems spiteful and cruel, something Stannis is not. He's dry, dull, stern and consistent to a fault. For a man who wanted to earn the throne rather than just take it, the cruel death of his innocent daughter is not an act 'for the good of The Realm' and can never be perceived as such, unlike other controversial decisions (Renly, dick leeches, going to the Wall, burning the false idols).
This episode has it all, from small and forgivable mistakes such as randomly disappearing attack dogs to plot-breaking and totally unrealistic killing of characters who could have been interesting and worth keeping alive. It's clear now that the show's creators don't really understand the source material and they are now trying to improvise some fanfiction to hold their story together. They are trying too hard to add shock value by killing off characters who haven't really been developed enough for anybody to be shocked about their deaths. The episode's ending was also trying to go for shock value, but ended up quite random and unnecessary. Most actors and production values are still good as ever, but even those can't carry a flawed story.
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To me the murders seem like a desperate move to gain more momentum for the Dorne storyline. It would have been more compelling if they had developed Doran's character to be more like he is in the books, since the sand snakes by themselves aren't that interesting, they're like your average saturday cartoon villains at this point with their "witty" cringey one-liners and all. Also my rating reflects the my disappointment in the recent seasons of the show. I loved season 1-2 so it hits extra hard to see the current state of this show, biggest waste of potential I've probably ever seen.
The variations on the theme as Daenerys and company make their landing and she returns home. Those long low horns and strings foreshadowing all the epic that's about to be unleashed. Zero dialogue until Dany asks, "Shall we begin?" Absolutely brilliant closing sequence for the season opener.
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@buddhalou Couldn't have put it better myself. That scene would have been ruined if they had attempted some sort of dialog.
Holy !@$()! Giants with the army of the dead :((
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They should have burned the bodies after the battle... Jon did it before... why wouldn't he do now?
I loved how this episode was all about repeated history with a twist
Pros
+Cersei doing her best impression of the Mad King
+Jaime being forcibly compared to the Freys as Kingslayers with the beautifully written line where Walder Frey says he loves that people hate him and Jaime clearly despises it. Also Jaime looking on during Cersei's coronation and just being absolutely horrified was an excellent moment
+Jon doing his impression of Rob
+Sam gets to Oldtown and it is a city I have been waiting to see and it looks beautiful It is going to make for a wonderful contrast when the Ironborn assault takes place and this pillar of scholarly learning is trashed I like how they mention that the leadership in the Night's Watch has changed drastically, clearly a point emphasizing the changes that happen throughout this episode
+Bran seeing the rest of the Tower of Joy and saying goodbye to BenjenNeutral
*Arya killing the Freys after feeding him the pie was okay. Not as satisfying as Manderly doing it, while having the musicians play a song about it over and over, and hooting and hollering before probably betraying them in the 1st Battle of Winterfell. It'll be interesting to see who she goes after in the future but there really isn't a whole lot of things that impressed me about this. Again cool that it's a twist on the Red Wedding with Walder as the victim when he least expected it.Cons
-Dorne apparently is now run by the fucking idiots who kinslayed the former prince and his son for literally no reason and the dumb fucks have a typical conversation with Olenna Tyrell where she talks shit about them and then they convince her to join the Dany camp
-Littlefinger talks with Sansa about wanting to bang her and then pouts for the rest of the episode because she turns him down
-Dany's weird breakup where she gives the dude Slavers Bay as compensation for being a good fuck and killing some people for moneyloading replies
Littlefinger was pouting because he lost the North. I wager he'll become a thorn in Jon's side next season.
I loved how this episode was all about repeated history with a twist
Pros
+Cersei doing her best impression of the Mad King
+Jaime being forcibly compared to the Freys as Kingslayers with the beautifully written line where Walder Frey says he loves that people hate him and Jaime clearly despises it. Also Jaime looking on during Cersei's coronation and just being absolutely horrified was an excellent moment
+Jon doing his impression of Rob
+Sam gets to Oldtown and it is a city I have been waiting to see and it looks beautiful It is going to make for a wonderful contrast when the Ironborn assault takes place and this pillar of scholarly learning is trashed I like how they mention that the leadership in the Night's Watch has changed drastically, clearly a point emphasizing the changes that happen throughout this episode
+Bran seeing the rest of the Tower of Joy and saying goodbye to BenjenNeutral
*Arya killing the Freys after feeding him the pie was okay. Not as satisfying as Manderly doing it, while having the musicians play a song about it over and over, and hooting and hollering before probably betraying them in the 1st Battle of Winterfell. It'll be interesting to see who she goes after in the future but there really isn't a whole lot of things that impressed me about this. Again cool that it's a twist on the Red Wedding with Walder as the victim when he least expected it.Cons
-Dorne apparently is now run by the fucking idiots who kinslayed the former prince and his son for literally no reason and the dumb fucks have a typical conversation with Olenna Tyrell where she talks shit about them and then they convince her to join the Dany camp
-Littlefinger talks with Sansa about wanting to bang her and then pouts for the rest of the episode because she turns him down
-Dany's weird breakup where she gives the dude Slavers Bay as compensation for being a good fuck and killing some people for moneyloading replies
Yeah, he lost the North because she turned him down and didn't claim the North for herself. Besides it's clear that her turning him down was a big part of why he was sad. To go along with the repeated history, it was just like when Catelyn turned him down. It's a personal thing for him with Sansa. The reason why it's in the cons isn't because it didn't make sense though, it was just really awkwardly done.
Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP98.5/10. Blood of my blood. The title gives it away. One could say this every week about a show so centered around familial legacy, but this episode of Game of Thrones in particular circles around familial connections, between parents and children and the other ties of kin that pull us into place and break our hearts in the process. These people save us, help us, make us stronger, but they also have a unique capacity to wound us, to frustrate us, and to unravel us.
Nowhere does the episode explore all sides of this than more than Sam's return visit to Horn Hill, which proved to be the most magnificent slice of the episode, despite the smaller stakes and lack of major reveals. Much of the time on Game of Thrones is spent focused on the larger machinations of the plot. Even when we're not devoting time to the dragons or magic or other fantastical elements of the world, we're focused on the stakes of not just the individual characters, but on the titular game of thrones as different players vie for power, and on the existential threat coming from the north.
Despite this, Sam's visit home has the feeling of something apart. There's no magic at play. While his stop is intended as a respite for Gilly and Sam Jr. on Sam's way to the Citadel to earn his maester's chain and ostensibly help Jon, there's little larger relevance to it when it comes to the show's overarching story. Instead, it's a quiet character piece, one whose chief purpose is to tell us more about who Sam is, where he came from, and what he's become since he left home.
To that end, in many ways the scenes at Horn Hill feel more like a costume drama, something of a piece with Downton Abbey than with the swords and sorcery and political intrigue of business as usual on GoT. It's a pleasant departure, and it feels so unique because it puts the focus on something very rare within the world of Westeros, at least the part of it we're privy to -- an intact family, and the harshness and difficulties that can exist within them even when your kin are not being torn apart from one another by rivals and medieval honor.
So we see Sam embraced by his mother and sister. We see his Wildling bride, clearly not the type of highborn lady who might be expected to meet with their approval, welcomed as a daughter and a sister into their homes. We see little Sam Jr., held by his grandmother and promised the world, spoken of with love and told he'll one day be great like his father. In the beautiful open air of Horn Hill, family is a kind embrace and a welcome home.
And then they all sit at that table. And the silence and tension is thick. And Sam and his brother make small talk, and Gilly struggles with her knife and fork, and a perfectly cast Lord Randyll Tarly scowls at the head of the table. All of a sudden, a conflict between Sam's old family and his new one occurs. Lord Tarly barks and growls at his son, calls him fat, a disappointment, unworthy of his mother and his name. Sam looks down, confessing later that he worried his father would not take his erstwhile wife and child in. But Gilly will not stand for it. She's seen him be more than measure up as the kind of man his father claims he'll never be. He's defended Gilly and Sam from worse than any horror Lord Tarly is likely to face. But the head of House Tarly continues to debase his son, continues to tear him down in the way that only a father can. And at that table, family is judgment and pain and something to suck you back down into who you used to be.
Finally, Sam goes to say goodbye to Gilly and Sam Jr. He is a defeated man. He's capitulating to a father who hates him in the hopes of protecting the people he cares for. There was something so unbelievably endearing about he and Gilly's walk to dinner, like a pair of teenagers dressed to the nines, stumbling off to the prom like baby deer. They keep each other up, and now he feels he has to leave her. He kisses her, and walks out that door, and seems to be giving in to his father's assessment of his life, love, and worth.
But then he comes barreling back through the door and declares that he's taking Gilly and Sam with him to the Citadel. They are his loved ones now, and it's them who make him feel like the man he is, who enervate him to become stronger and do more rather than be resigned to the weakness Lord Tarly ascribed to his first born son. Sam takes House Tarly's valerian steel sword, claiming his birthright and his place as a Tarly worth of the honor. He brings his wife and his son and storms off to claim his own destiny, to forge his own kin apart from the man who degrades him. And here, family is strength; family is the future; and family is love and devotion once more.
But in King's Landing, choices that strain the relations between father and son do not move only in one direction. As Jamie leads the Tyrell army to the steps of the Sept, ready to take back Margaery and Loras and Lancel, he challenges the High Sparrow. The crowd jeers as the spears and shields are raised and conflict seems imminent. Then, the High Sparrow reveals his trump card. Out walks Tommen, Jamie's son, to announce a union between the Crown and the Faith.
Olenna, the grand dame of Game of Thrones announces in memorable fashion that they've been outflanked. The High Sparrow is craftier than anyone in the Red Keep imagined. He found how to get to the king -- through his mother and through his wife. And now the group that Cersei brought into the fold has taken over, has the ear of her son. Jamie is stripped of his command and sent off to Riverrun. Though Tommen does not wield the kind of hatred Lord Tarly does, he too has his kin before him and deems him unworthy, and though Jamie doesn't blame his son, he's clearly infuriated.
It's then that his sister calms his nerves. She too is aghast at their son having been swayed by the Sparrows, but she has a plan to retake control. As uncomfortable as it is to see, Jamie and Cersei are blood as well, and when they describe one another as the only two people in the world, it is an affirmation, to an extreme degree, that their family is all that matters.
And in one of the episode's most striking scenes, Arya actually seems to understand Cersei for just a moment. When she's prodded by the actress whom she admires to explain how she would change the stage-Cersei's response to her son's death, there's a moment of recognition. Arya says that Cersei loves her son more than anything, so she wouldn't just be sad, she would be angry and want to kill the people responsible. And as Arya witnessed her father killed in King's Landing and felt those same emotions, it's a stark moment of maturity and growth from Arya, an understanding that she and Cersei are not as different as they might seem, that they both felt strong connections to their family, to their loved ones, and were moved to shake the world on its axis in order to defend and avenge them.
The way the actress helped her reach that realization, to remember who she is and how she started on this journey, helps her to cast aside her mission. She is not no one. She is a Stark. And Starks are not murderers for hire. Her father taught her to be someone with honor, even if honor in Westeros is a fractured, fragile thing. Like Sam, she reclaims her sword, and with it, her birthright and heritage. She is not simply a girl; she is Arya Stark, and carries with her all that it means.
And even that is not the last of the familial bonds shown to be brought closer and exploited in "Blood of My Blood." A long absent Walder Frey admonishes his sons for failing to hold Riverrun. He summons Lord Edmure, his prisoner since the Red Wedding, in order to hold power over his father, The Blackfish. He too speaks of his legacy, of the way his children have disappointed him, and how they can use the connection between a father and son to defeat the Blackfish.
And the mother of dragons returns to her "son." Named after Dany's fallen husband, Drogon is indeed the blood of Targaryen blood. While the CGI is still a little shaky, only someone with that sort of bond of kinship can ride the back of a dragon. She is strengthened by this connection, made greater and more powerful by her "child." She tells the Dothraki who have followed her into these desert mountains that though Khals of the past have taken only a few bloodriders to protect their leader, she will not be so constrained. They will all be her bloodriders; they are all her children, and they are all the blood of her blood.
Finally, when Bran Stark seems done for, when the wights are about to engulf him and Meera and extinguish the fire they have begun, a mysterious cloaked figure emerges, wielding a fire and a scythe and defeating the undead warriors in impressive fashion. After he takes them to safety, he has Bran drink the blood of his kill to fortify himself. And he reveals that he too is the blood of Bran's blood. He is Benjen Stark, Bran's Uncle, who has been saved and turned by the Children and called to be the latest of Bran's protectors. Unseen since the first episode of the show, Benjen is a welcome return, who shows that, as Arya demonstrated, the blood of the Starks still flows across the land, even if it's threatening to freeze.
For the first time in forever, it feels as though the pieces are falling into place as we moved toward the end game for Game of Thrones. Dany wonders who would have the ships she needs to take the Seven Kingdoms just as Yara and Theon are heading her way with a fleet of them. Benjen once again shows the effect that fire has on the Wights as we see, halfway across the world, a queen ride a dragon. Long forgotten corners of Westeros, from Walder Frey, to Balon Greyjoy, to the Blackfish, emerge once more poised to make their impact on the major stories of this world. Jon and Sansa are poised to rally their allies to retake Winterfell, Arya is ready to return to her former mission, and Bran has been reunited with his family as more of the ever-expanding world of Game of Thrones starts to come to a head.
And in the midst of all this, we are reminded that from the nation-altering strife of the king and his parents, to the simple, sweet moments between a disowned son who hopes to do better by his own adopted child, these events are shaped by families great and small. There is no doubt much more blood to be spilled in the game of thrones, but its current pulls each of the players across their great land, and makes them stronger, more devoted, more certain, more powerful, and helps to clarify who they are and where they belong within it.
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Maybe! It all just depends.
Great episode, wonderfull how George RR Martin already planned this out YEARS ago. Sad to see Hodor die... Hodor for president?? :/
Can"t wait to see what next week will bring.
Hodor and Summer, you shall be missed... Only 2 living Direwolves remain we are certain about.... sad :(
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Just cover the damn spoilers!
Review by Neal Mahoney
VIP8That last scene was amazing. I love that we are getting huge battles more than once a season, probably because they have more of a budget per episode. Drogon is a total game changer, one second Jamie thinks he can hold off the Dorthraki. The next he is just about shitting his pants. Bronn did show that they are mortal and can be hurt. Jamie charging at Daenerys while Tyrion was watching was great. Tyrion still cares, at least a little, for Jamie and wants him to live. It not often we see two main characters directly fighting each other. Glad to see Daenerys get a win and Jamie not dead, hopefully.
Jon and Daenerys are getting closer. They seem to start to like each other more every scene they have together. Jon finding the cave paintings of white walkers was convenient. Hey look at this giant rock we are going to mine. Oh, look over there, there are old paintings of white walkers. Told you there were real. Jon still won’t bend the knee but he doesn’t want to be the king. A little stubborn, like daenerys too. Someone is going to have to give.
Another stark reunion only this time it didn’t feel as special. Maybe it's because we have seen a lot of reunions lately but it didn’t seem like they were that excited to see each other. Then Sansa’s like, Brans home too. Why did littlefinger give that dagger to Bran? Will Bran find out who tried to kill him with it? Was it actually littlefinger himself, he said he “lost” it to Tyrion. But hey at least Arya now has some valyrian steel.
The Arya and Brienne fight was fun. It crazy to see how well Arya was trained as an assassin by ’no one’. She still is a little girl that can be kicked down by Brienne but still very deadly. Sansa is seeing it for the first time too. I’m sure she is wondering who her sister has become fighting like that and having a list of people to kill.
I love how Davos introduces Jon. "King Snow, isn't it? No that doesn't sound right. King Jon?" Personally I like King Jon Targaryen.
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@nmahoney416 I think they played the reunion between Arya and Sansa just right. If you look back at season one, they weren't close. They fight frequently. They both had an affinity to different parents. Arya got on better with Ned, Sansa with Catelyn. To have them together again and both having changed so much should be interesting.
Review by Neal Mahoney
VIP8That last scene was amazing. I love that we are getting huge battles more than once a season, probably because they have more of a budget per episode. Drogon is a total game changer, one second Jamie thinks he can hold off the Dorthraki. The next he is just about shitting his pants. Bronn did show that they are mortal and can be hurt. Jamie charging at Daenerys while Tyrion was watching was great. Tyrion still cares, at least a little, for Jamie and wants him to live. It not often we see two main characters directly fighting each other. Glad to see Daenerys get a win and Jamie not dead, hopefully.
Jon and Daenerys are getting closer. They seem to start to like each other more every scene they have together. Jon finding the cave paintings of white walkers was convenient. Hey look at this giant rock we are going to mine. Oh, look over there, there are old paintings of white walkers. Told you there were real. Jon still won’t bend the knee but he doesn’t want to be the king. A little stubborn, like daenerys too. Someone is going to have to give.
Another stark reunion only this time it didn’t feel as special. Maybe it's because we have seen a lot of reunions lately but it didn’t seem like they were that excited to see each other. Then Sansa’s like, Brans home too. Why did littlefinger give that dagger to Bran? Will Bran find out who tried to kill him with it? Was it actually littlefinger himself, he said he “lost” it to Tyrion. But hey at least Arya now has some valyrian steel.
The Arya and Brienne fight was fun. It crazy to see how well Arya was trained as an assassin by ’no one’. She still is a little girl that can be kicked down by Brienne but still very deadly. Sansa is seeing it for the first time too. I’m sure she is wondering who her sister has become fighting like that and having a list of people to kill.
I love how Davos introduces Jon. "King Snow, isn't it? No that doesn't sound right. King Jon?" Personally I like King Jon Targaryen.
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@demeter I definitely think they are going to get romantically involved but not until after they deal with the white walkers. Old Targaryens use to keep the bloodline pure so this is the only way to keep the tradition going.
I think we're rioting! This is way better than all LOTR movies combined. Holy f*ck that was awesome!
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better than lotr? Lol no.
GOT is the greatest thing to happen to humanity. So much hype was going around this ep, so many emotions... and it delivered. Nobody expected that. And i love so much about this ep that not a lot of people died as i was expecting. And as if i didint have enough reasons to love her, now im just obsessed with Arya,she is 100% my favorite. If she dies, im going to hate GOT.
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@redreda24 Guarantee Cerei tricks them into doing some trial by duel situation and when the Hound beats the Mountain and she backpedals and tries to blow them up with wildfyre or some dumb shit lol
I don't like Sansa - of course she would betray her brother's (ok, cousin's) trust and blab his secret to everyone - but now I don't like Daenerys either. Damn, would she sit down and wait for her army to heal and recuperate? She's gotten increasingly ruthless in the past couple of seasons. It would indeed be a decent strategy if Jon and Daenerys would marry and just rule together, but I don't think that's going to happen now. They killed off Rhaegal, so that's gotta foreshadow something - that there will only be one Targaryen left standing at the end of the series.
Also, poor Ghost. Leaving him to the North definitely signalled Jon's gradual departure from the Stark family and gradual acceptance of his Targaryen heritage. So sad to see him react to Jon like that.
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@rikayla She's always been like this in the show. remember in the second season when she threatened to burn Qarth to the ground if they didn't help her? Her personality in the show has been purely narcissistic
I don't like Sansa - of course she would betray her brother's (ok, cousin's) trust and blab his secret to everyone - but now I don't like Daenerys either. Damn, would she sit down and wait for her army to heal and recuperate? She's gotten increasingly ruthless in the past couple of seasons. It would indeed be a decent strategy if Jon and Daenerys would marry and just rule together, but I don't think that's going to happen now. They killed off Rhaegal, so that's gotta foreshadow something - that there will only be one Targaryen left standing at the end of the series.
Also, poor Ghost. Leaving him to the North definitely signalled Jon's gradual departure from the Stark family and gradual acceptance of his Targaryen heritage. So sad to see him react to Jon like that.
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@rikaylaI have the feeling she will be killed off and Jon would become the King of the Seven Kingdoms and everybody would love him. It seems like the writers are gradually making her, let's say, unlikeable thus getting ready to get rid of her. I wonder what would happen to the last dragon.
Melisandre: What do we say to the God of good episodes? Writers: Not today!
I feel like the writers are trying to insult people's intelligence this season.
Writer of the episode said that, and I quote ''Dany kind of forgot about Euron's fleet, but they haven't forgotten about her..'' She forgot. Everyone mentions the fleet 3 scenes before they show up and she was in that scene.
Not only did Dany suddenly suffer from concussion and forgot about them, she also couldn't see the entire fleet while flying high in the air. But tbf, they were hiding behind little rocks so she could not see them. Then Rhaegal gets hit 3 times in 3 tries, but when Dany goes straight at Euron (and does nothing) every arrow misses Drogon, of course. But then they destroy Dany's ships in a single minute, no misses there again, I'm afraid.There were more bad things in this episode, like how no one else noticed Bronn (with big crossbow) in Winterfell, how no one asked for Arya's and Bran's help against Cersei, how Sam didn't ask Jon why he didn't help him in the last episode when he was lying on the ground, why Cersei didn't just kill everyone in that last scene, etc.. but the thing I hated the most was when characters were about to finally learn about Aegon Targaryen and then the show would just cut away from those scenes. We have time for those drinking games and romantic soap opera parts of the episode, but we cut away from Sansa's, Tyrion's and Arya's reaction about AT. Nice writing and directing.
The only scene that I liked and that reminded me of old GOT (S1-S4) was Tyrion and Varys conversation.. until Varys said that he'll betray Dany. Writers are probably going to kill him in the next episode because of that. In earlier seasons that character would never say his real thoughts, he would lie to Tyrion and then quietly spread info about Jon's true identity everywhere.
This is just.. sad.
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@milanjfs you have captured it all so well. Thank you. I think the mythical state of the GoT has gotten into the heads of the writers in this entire season 8. They now think they can get away with anything as long as the visuals are good (which they are). I did like the scene of Rhaegal being struck by the bolts and falling out of the sky, to imagine that shot is all CGI is just amazing... How it happens I'm afraid is pathetic and lazy writing.
The judge is one cold dude. Is there anything he won't do?
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@csbarker Anything for your child..anything!!!
Haha, I 'd never noticed until this episode that Sheldon' s insistent proclamation to Penny in The Big Bang Theory that "We keep our keys in a bowl" is a habit he acquired from his parents. When George Sr. leaves to go to the tavern at the end of the episode, we clearly see him retrieve his keys from a bowl in the middle of the kitchen table. This was a better episode than many of the most recent installments, though I can't imagine anyone would continue to classify it as a sitcom; we seem to be sailing in some rather deep family drama waters here.
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@roguescholar I’d rather Mary catch George watching porn lol. Definitely one of those women that would consider that cheating.
Dollar Bill was really about to wipe out an entire chicken farm to make good on a trade.:anguished:
I’m still trying to find the purpose of Taylor Mason father coming into the picture? Is he there to help “them” go against Axe? If not, then what the fuck is doing there?
It’s official! Chuck and Axe teamed up, shit is about to get intense this season!
Meanwhile,
Chuck turns into BDSM crackhead.:joy:
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I like this one even more despite the known cooperation of Axe and Chuck, Taylor is not reliable at all, she is like Axe in the past, and even more dangerous, cuz she is so damn smart and rational.
Dollar Bill was really about to wipe out an entire chicken farm to make good on a trade.:anguished:
I’m still trying to find the purpose of Taylor Mason father coming into the picture? Is he there to help “them” go against Axe? If not, then what the fuck is doing there?
It’s official! Chuck and Axe teamed up, shit is about to get intense this season!
Meanwhile,
Chuck turns into BDSM crackhead.:joy:
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A significant portion of this episode was devoted to someone not having the respect to refer to Taylor as they/them, and still here you both still are putting "them" in quotes or using "she".
"Taylor really fucked us."
"Spacey style. Sneaky and from behind."Axe is ruthless but Wendy is vicious.
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@dewdropvelvet
If you watched this episode and don't know what Wendy did, I don't think I can help you.
First off, Taylor fucked Axe. No two ways about it. She deserves whatever happens. I liked Taylor before all this but now she can cry all she wants or "they want".
Wendy needs to keep her shit together. Ever since the slap and tickle news came out she's been all over the place. It was a vicious idea to have Taylor crush her father but it's done. Just like the bondage stuff she needs to own it.
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@anthoney65 Wendy's timing on her depression is the pits. I dont think psychiatrists always realize that they are susceptible too, all that knowledge doesn't prevent them from having symptoms.
Everyone looks at her like she's the golden girl, but nobody is gonna realize her ennui is really bad right now. Not even Taylor!
At first I was so angry that she talked to Taylor but now I see what was underneath- desperation for attention from Axe that she's in pain. She could say "Axe I'm not on board with this revenge plot" but that would be a lie too! Sheesh. Her character arc is the one to look out for this season I think.
On a side note, I'm not sure not seing Laura is a good or bad thing. What do you think of the girl from Goliath Axe is dating?
Wendy is very willing to risk Axe's wrath re the Taylor stuff. She wants to push it hard, like a kid testing to see her parents love her even when she stumbles. I don't really know how Axe will react, but I think it could hurt him? I'm not sure, actually. His relationship with Goliath girl is in the early stages and is probably a rebound one, but the show is acting like it's serious.
And then Wendy plays all these games at home. "Pie but without the reality of it." That was a brilliant scene (loved the music.)
Wendy is still trying really hard to a) say something is wrong but b) not say something is wrong too, she wants people to just "know."
And then she hadn't given herself a real chance to acknowledge the problem to Axe, damnit! She's talked to her husband, but those conversations end up being about the husband trying so hard to make things right which just makes Wendy feel worse about her depression. (That's my theory, I'm sticking with it for now.) I believe Wendy does know she's depressed.
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What a thrilling episode! Shocking ending with Kevin dying. I think that Virgil has killed himself so he can guide Kevin to battle his 'adversary'. And Michael was pulling Kevin to bury him so he could come back to life, just like the bird Erika buried that later came back to life. So no, I don't think that Kevin is gone for good.
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Jesus, that was one hell of a guess!
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What a thrilling episode! Shocking ending with Kevin dying. I think that Virgil has killed himself so he can guide Kevin to battle his 'adversary'. And Michael was pulling Kevin to bury him so he could come back to life, just like the bird Erika buried that later came back to life. So no, I don't think that Kevin is gone for good.
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That's a good idea. But I feel that even when he wakes up he will have a lot of trouble ahead from the hand print he left.
Kevin: Nora I have to tell you something
Nora: What is it Kevin
Kevin: I killed Patti (well actually she killed herself in front of me but you know that's how I feel and so all I'm telling you is I killed her)
Nora: Oh, alrighty, it's fine///
Kevin: I keep seeing Patti
Nora: omg this is too much I just can't Kevin I leave youCome on, Lindelof
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@patatonix Wrong episode, but yeah I felt the same with the previous one, but now I've seen this one, I feel like it was totally worth it!
