I think I will skip this one. A musical filler episode? No, thanks.
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@alex8mr 1 star for something you didn't see ?
I’m starting to wonder why I’m watching a show that is designed for children.
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@ausxor you mean star wars? yes of course it's for children. it's still good.
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Calling this show stupid is still a compliment in my opinion. Writers needs to understand that people are fan of Tolkien’s work not theirs. Stop doing stupid dialogues and why the hell would you rush Sauron manipulating elves to a single episode. This show needs better writers.
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@aakash658
- Writers: Nothing happens.
- Viewer: Boooring.
- Writers: Something happens.
- Viewer: wHy RuSh It??
Jonathan Majors , love the dude, but that performance was godawful. He kinda reminded me of Jesse Eisenberg in Batman V Superman
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@jordyep I personally think he nailed it. I think this was done to emphasize what will be the stark contrast in Keng later on. Just predicting, but I think we're going to see some mean motherfucker down the line and look back at this and say dammmmn and this could've been the version we dealt with? Sylvie fucked up!
So you mean to tell me that after all that fighting and battles you going to turn around and become the very same thing you fighting... ridiculous.
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@jojo-sxm He's making Harlem great again. He even built a wall, and made the Italians pay for it. Harlem's Paradise is gonna be YUGE!
Did they really need to bring Karen back? she was completely unnecessary in this episode
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@abstractlegend And I disagree, she always jumps in when the heroes need legal help.
And she got her and Madani to see the morgue because she has history with creepy ed, Madani wouldn't have gotten in otherwise. This to get to know it was a setup which lead to Frank knowing he is not the same and doesn't deserves punishment himself. Also leading to him leaving from the hospital early.(He wanted to die from the syringe because he though he deserved it and wouldn't have left if he didn't knew this). From which point Karen isn't needed anymore as he's out of the legal reach she has. + she set off the fire alarms to let the others go undetected.
I can appreciate it's not like every other spin off, focused on creatures and side missions but I still don't know what the hell is this show even about. Just a man on the run?
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@the_argentinian The start of the real rebellion, basically. At this point people are fighting the Empire, but very sporadically and unorganized. The rebellion that Ben and Luke joins doesn't exist right now. Andor, and the animated SW Rebels, are about how it starts.
I just want to thank the cinema gods for this absolute dream. It feels like I passed out and when I came to I could remember a very good and satisfying Batman film.
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@tesomayn you’re so obsessed lol
So, technology in this world is stuck in the 1950s but Strange managed to invent and manufacture a MICROCHIP and a Brain-Computer Interface??
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@erebos The show draws elements from different decades, according to the New York Times: "the ambience is New York in the 1970s, but characters use computers and carry cellphones. Their clothes could be from the 1950s. And the buildings... look more like edifices from the 1930s, or even longer ago". Some buildings are created by the visual effects department and inspired by 1800s London! It's very Gotham.
With all the (Democrat), (Liberal) I mean Natzi propaganda and several gay scenes it ends just as I hoped,with two Very heterosexual weddings. All is well that ends well.
Wonder how they will bring back the doc if they do. I’m assuming they needed to kill him off to make budget room for other characters though.loading replies
@timekeeper how you managed to relate gay scenes to nazis when they literally massacred them in out of me. that was very dumb and you obviously dont know your history
Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP9[5.8/10] This really didn’t do it for me. It feels like it’s trying to be a PG version of Fleabag, without Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s wit or insight. It feels like it’s trying to capture the quippy patter that has become the MCU’s house style, without supplying the good quips. And it particularly feels like it wants these characters to come off as charming and playful when they mostly come off as minorly annoying and even a little concerning at times. It’s all watchable, but scans as a miscalibrated and inauspicious start to She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.
That said, there’s two things that give me hope for the series. The first is, I love the thought experiment of “What if someone got superpowers and didn't want to become a superhero?” It’s not a story you see a lot of, particularly in a world of “with great power comes great responsibility. But the notion of Jennifer liking her normal life, not feeling attuned to or interested in the life of a superhero, and wanting to go back to the future she’s forged for herself, is a thought-provoking and interesting theme to explore.
At the same time, I like the idea that Bruce Banner is pushing this life on his cousin to some degree, as a moral imperative and practical necessity, when, as Jennifer points out, it’s left him lonely and traumatized. So many of these phase 4 projects -- No Way Home, WandaVision, Black Widow, and Hawkeye -- have been about the heroes who participated in the events of Endgame and beyond picking up the pieces after such serious stuff goes down. Exploring how Bruce’s choices have isolated him or made him unhappy as he quietly mourns the loss of friends like Tony, Steve, and Natasha, is worthy territory.
Unfortunately, She-Hulk doesn’t seem particularly well-suited to do that in the early going. It’s a boon that they got Mark Ruffalo to return as Banner to kick things off here, but his performance is really off. It’s hard to put my finger on exactly, but whether it’s not being physically in certain scenes or just having off days, he’s substandard in several scenes here that throws things off.
It’s tough, because much of the episode rests on the dynamic between Jennifer and Bruce, and the chemistry is just as out-of-whack. The show seems to want us to find them cheeky and playful with each other, but with all the tweaking and pointedness, they just kind of seem like jerks. Bruce is condescending and controlling, and Jennifer seems smug and pestersome. There’s not much in the way of likable characters in the early going here. Plus, while I think the show wants to treat two hulks doing battle as mere roughhousing, it’s a little unsettling that the two basically resolve their disagreement with physical force and outright violence.
On top of that, there’s some unfortunately cartoonish “dudes suck” and go-girl feminism motifs. There’s a kernel of a good idea there -- with the notion that Jennifer is better at controlling her anger or other strong emotions than Bruce ever was because it’s the sort of thing women have to do every day lest they face harsh labels or risks to their safety. But the jerky lawyer and other male antagonists are cartoonishly awful, and the “Anything you can do, I can do better” routine between Bruce and Jennifer starts to feel overly blunt very quickly. The point isn’t bad, but the dramatization of it is too exaggerated and on-the-nose to elicit much more than eye-rolls.
And, as the Internet has apparently fixated on, the CGI is very inconsistent and frequently quite dodgy. Sometimes it’s fine! At times, both hulks feel like real, expressive people in bodies with weight and definition. At others, they feel like characters from a video game cutscene circa ten years ago. I’m not one to gripe about such things too hard, but considering this isn’t just side spectacle, but rather core to the main character of the series, it can be genuinely distracting in several moments.
All of that said, we get thirty seconds of The Good Place’s Jammela Jamil, which is promising if she has more to do on the show. And there’s some good ideas worth exploring that are hopefully in the show’s future. But the questionable approach, tone, characters, and realization of these ideas in the early going all provide a shaky-at-best start to the new show.
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@andrewbloom She-Hulk was actually the first superhero to break the fourth wall in Marvel comics. Even before Deadpool.
It's not that she's copying Fleabag, she's been doing it since 1989.
Throwing in some context as a fan of the comics, sorry.
I feel like I have been watching a different episode than many other people because apparently I‘m taking a trip to Unpopular Opinion Town here.
I didn’t really care for the episode. The concept of Ultron wining is rather interesting, but the execution felt messy and again, a deep problem for the whole show itself, way too rushed due to the 30 minute format.
The animation again was pretty uneven, with some beautiful shots (Hawkeye‘s sacrifice) and mostly weird facial expressions. I also don’t like the character design of the Watcher when he is fully visible. What’s with that giant bobble head?
I still don’t like Lake Bell much as Natasha. She comes off as rather lifeless and harsh in moments when it’s not needed. Ross Marquand does a fine job as Ultron (and yes, he played Red Skull in Infinity War and Endgame), though James Spader is missed.
The Natasha/Clint plot in the beginning of the episode is pretty straightforward, though I still don’t care much about either character, at least it is an sense-making narrative. And Zola-Ultron (Zoltron?) adds a brief and fun dynamic with Toby Jones being as entertaining as ever.
The rest of the episode seems to be bound to plot holes, contradictions and decisions I‘m not particularly fond of.
How stupidly easy was it for Ultron to beat Thanos? Especially when the latter had many more Infinity Stones? If it was that easy, why couldn’t Vision just do it during Infinity War?
Also, "Loki" established that Infinity Stones have no power outside their original universe, so how exactly was Ultron able to use them within the multiverse?
It was interesting to see the Watcher engage in a fight with Ultron (and yes he was previously shown to make his presence aware to other characters) but overall it just felt silly, when the whole concept of the character is that he is a being above everything else, just there to watch.
I‘m personally also not a fan of connecting episodes of "What If." The premise of the show is to explore alternative timeless and stories within the multiverse of the MCU, by suddenly connecting them with each other, they basically open up a whole lot new problems and issues to deal with. And, as this episode shows, continuity is not always their strongest suit.
Lastly, Cap becoming President? Okay then...
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@TinyTinkerBell9 There's been a few theories about why vision didn't straight up kill Thanos, my favourites being that he was injured for pretty much the whole movie and didn't really do any fighting after his first fight, and that the JARVIS part of him stops him from immediately defaulting to straight up killing.
As for how Ultron was able to use the stones, Loki never actually confirmed that they don't work outside their own universe, just that they didn't work in the TVA. It was basically just the comics fan's who knew the stones work that way in the comics and assumed it worked the same way in the MCU. Personally I believe the reason they don't work in the TVA is because they only work if their universe/timeline still exists.
I am a bit confused why you think the watcher fighting Ultron is a bit silly when he's shown multiple times that he's at very least hesitant to stick to his creed of not interfering, especially in this episode and the Strange episode, as well as dropping his whole "I cannot, will not interfere" thing from the intro pretty early on. It was basically inevitable that he would get involved somehow, and fighting to defend his realm/the multiverse from Ultron was pretty much the best way it could happen.
I cannot believe they killed another boyfriend of Raven. When will that girl catch a fucking break. She's suffered enough already.
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@like-a-winter-machine He knew the tech and even the codes for it. There were even signs. It feels so random.
I'm already suspecting that everyone is an alien until proven otherwise.
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Looks like I'm in the minority here, but as someone who has been disappointed with this series (due to a combination of writing and superhero fatigue - it's real dammit), this was one of the best Marvel Disney+ episodes so far.
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@albertic0 Without those, this one would not have felt this great.
Too much fluff not enough content for the main story arc. 8 episodes they could have done 3 and accomplished just as much.
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@rickay seems like you dont give a fuck about the characters just the action. Leave.... now.
The episode was shit. All the Disney plus shows are. They were supposed to be better than agents of shield. Bigger budget doesn't assure better content. Dissatisfied.
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@mxyzptlk27 Agents of SHIELD is great so it's not an easy task to be better than that.
As my wife aptly said after the conclusion of the episode, "there's plenty of action but not a lot of story here." There are certainly a lot of great moments and a good bit of mystery, but it feels more like a trailer for whats coming then a its own story.
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I disagree with you, and your wife. Of course it's a set up for more to come. Which is always a good thing when it comes to the MCU. Sometimes I think you guys forget what Marvel is all about. Smh.
I will miss Barb, what a savage,nonchalantly drops the bomb and walks away. She always was my favorite character in Gotham, Erin Richards did great work with Barb.
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@noxouroboros and Bullocks "Congratulations" Was just perfect afterwards
Pretty good episode... until the last minute. WTF was that? Shouting that she'll kill the guy who's been helping her this whole time? Kinda cringe, and didn't make much sense.
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@souppeh you say that as if Tuello is just wronging June to further some personal goals or something. In reality, he's doing something for the greater good. With Waterford as a source he will be able to save countless more people and get justice for them. Of course June would be upset, but she's also shown herself to be smart and understanding. She's always been willing to 'take one for the team' so to speak. Sure, she could get her own justice, but how does that help the rest of the people still in Gilead? How does that help her own daughter? With Waterford as a source instead, it means she's way more likely to get her daughter back, and also for countless other people to be saved. Tuello did the objectively right thing, even though it sucks for June on a personal level.
Shout by Clobby Clobsters
As Cosmonaut Marcus writes, "It was whatever."
- There's no tension in the fights because, of course, they're going to win.
- Falcon with the save! Superheroes are actually saving people; thank you.
- The story: I'm right, discouraged by obstacles, I'm right again; no lesson learned
- Bucky saved some people!
- Do all these ordinary people train or just happen to know karate (the Flag Smashers)?
- And Walker doesn't go for the save.
- Nvm, Walker goes for the save!
- Wow, Sharon is the Power broker; what a relevant revelation. It's nice to know our theorists are right.
- Karli wishes she was Killmonger, huh?
- Falcon: You're right; I don't understand, but you Senators need to start asking "why?"!
- "U.S. Agent"? Ok, sure.
- WoAh, I wonder what AGeNt CArTer is up to?
There are some important messages but no revelations, lessons or challenges. Falcon just hears Bradley say, "don't do it", and does it and does fine, because...? So he had self-doubt, hears more doubt from someone else, but does it anyway?
SCORE 5/10
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@clobby-clobsters 'There's no tension in the fights because, of course, they're going to win.' - I'm sorry but what a ridiculous criticism to make. The protagonists win in most action shows or films. The tension isn't in whether they're going to win, it's in how they're going to win and at what cost.
And you're making this comment about a universe where the heroes lost to a dramatic degree, in a film that released as soon as 2018 (Avengers Infinity War). This is the fictional universe with the smallest guarantee that the heroes will win!
Changing my comment on this to a Perfect 10 because I guess my initial thoughts hurt someone's feelings.
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@whitsbrain Just because you're incapable of following the story doesn't mean its bad.
Hmm...this is feeling less and less like a dire dystopian cautionary tale and more and more like a typically cliched female author's rape/sub fantasy (a la FSoG, but in this case written by a feminist who apparently also likes to be on top). Not having read the original, I'm wondering if it's just the screenplay, but whatever is the case, I'm rapidly losing interest.
Also Elisabeth Moss needs to see a vocal/diction coach. There were at least 3 lines of hers which remained totally incomprehensible no matter how many times I flicked back and re-listened, while at least another 4 required more than 2 replays to catch the intended dialogue. Actually, that's the director's fault really, but anyway, not great.
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@kanootcha comparing margaret atwood to e l james is the worst thing you could do. james is absolutely not a feminist, shes a shame to all women everywhere and her work is pure abuse, rape and fantasy. margaret atwood is a very highly and rightly praised author. shes graduated from harvard and her books shed light on womens issues. the openness of sex in this episode was just to show contrast with the new dystopian society. same as you, i havent read the book. i have read her other books, the one i have studied very deeply is oryx and crake which holds zero feminist agenda. shes very intelligent and if you watch her interviews you will see that shes very sophisticated and full of bright ideas. e l james is simply a horrible writer. i havent watched the movies because after i read the first book i felt disgusted. she writes like an 8 year old and her topic was simply created to please desperate stuck delusional domestic middle aged women. if margaret atwood is the joan rivers of female authors, james is an untalented uninteresting amy schumer
Shout by Timekeeper
No matter how cheesy this show gets, people keep coming back for more. And it keeps getting renewed. Something for everyone.
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@timekeeperseven Yet you’ll be back to give it bad reviews next season lol.
Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP99.5/10. Now this is more like it! Despite the fact we cut to various scenes involving Hogarth, Trish, and Simpson, in many ways, this feels like a bottle episode, in spirit if not in execution. The bulk of the episode centers on Jessica and Kilgrave in Jessica's old house. Sure, there are some fireworks here and there (and some clumsily executed flashbacks), but most of it just centers on their interactions, on exploring the two characters, independently and in relation to each other, and that makes it the most interesting hour of television this show has put together thus far.
In addition to the character development, I really loved the moral dilemma the episode put Jessica in. I wrote in my review of the last episode a lot about the idea of the greater good and how that concepts doesn't necessarily align with the worldviews of either Jessica or Trish. But here, Jessica at least struggles with the idea of what it would mean if Kilgrave could be made into a force for good, even at the cost of Jessica's own happiness, safety, and well-being. The choice she makes at the end is very much in keeping with her character (a point the dialogue underlines a bit too boldly), but the fact that she seems genuinely affected by the decision, that she actually consults Trish to try to figure out what the right thing to do is, elevates this episode.
I also appreciated the way the episode explored Kilgrave without condoning him. It's a fine line to walk between making a bad guy more three-dimensional than an old school evil-for-evil's-sake villain, but also not trying to make them so sympathetic that it becomes a cliche, or, as is the danger here, that you present it as a justification for the character's bad deeds. But in this episode, the details we learn about Kilgrave --his parental abuse and neglect as he was experimented on--make him more comprehensible in his personality, but his casual disinterest in the value of human life, makes him seem all the more terrible. It's a tough balance to strike, but the show does it incredibly well here.
At the same time, I was very glad to see the scene where Jessica actually confronts Kilgrave about raping her. Much of the series has presented Jessica's trauma (the broader mind control not just the sex) as a rape metaphor, and while making that metaphor explicit risks making the presentation of the theme too on-the-nose, here it's just right. The anger and hurt in Jessica's voice, and the nonchalance of Kilgrave in response, magnifies the horror of what happened in the right way, and creates a conduit for the pain and frustration we've seen Jessica sublimating and projecting up to this point.
By that same token, I thought it was an interesting twist that Kilgrave doesn't see himself as murderer or a rapist. His characters is in some ways a takedown of the "nice guy" trope. The fact that he's absolutely torturing people, commanding them to do terrible things, and taking advantage of people to get his way, and yet sees himself as blameless for those people's actions makes him a more interesting villain. Mick Foley once said that the best bad guys believe that their actions are right, and it's interesting to see that concept reflected in Kilgrave.
To the same end, I appreciate the episode building on the idea put forward in the last episode, that what interests Kilgrave about Jessica is that she is someone who could walk away from him. There's a world-weariness to him when he tells Jessica that she has no idea what it's like not to know whether people genuinely want to do what he tells them to or not. He is a spiritually deadened man who fixates on the one person, the one facet of his life, he cannot truly control. That's what makes his character so frightening, disturbing, and compelling.
And Jessica too is never more compelling than she is in this episode. The way that she's cornered, trapped into living in this waking nightmare in the hope that she can use it save Hope or at least keep Kilgrave from hurting anyone else is rich material for the character and Kristyn Ritter. Her utter disgust for Kilgrave radiates in every moment they share the screen together, and yet the moment where Kilgrave uses his powers on the loathsome neighbor, you can see the slightest crack in Jessica's facade, the briefest hint of guilty appreciation that she just as quickly reverts from when Kilgrave touches him. It's a tremendous character moment that sets up the broader conflict for Jessica in this episode.
There's a lot of talk here about wiping the slate clean, about atoning for past deeds. That is, in many ways, the core of Jessica's character -- a sense that she is laden with guilt, but also trying to take some steps to make good on her promise in the world. This episode takes that idea to an extreme and is all the better for it.
And, god help me, I even love the Hogarth-Wendy storyline here. Part of that is that Carrie Anne Moss and the actress who play Wendy do a great job in conveying their characters' feelings--Wendy's open wound, and Hogarth's more reserved but still palpable regret. Frankly, apart from all the superhero stuff, I would gladly watch an episode devoted to the quiet domestic drama between the two characters, because there's a lot of interesting ideas of a good relationship gone bad at play there, and it's compelling even as it seems tangential to the main plot of the season.
There is, of course, the big blast and cliffhanger at the end of the episode, which, along with Kilgrave's brutal treatment of his servants, suggests whatever a force for good Kilgrave may be, he may be unredeemable. But for once I'm excited to find out where they're going to go from here.
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That's a lot of writing, son.
Okay... this was one of my favorite shows on television the first three seasons. But in the words of Margo... WTF HAPPENED?
This season premiere is absolutely atrocious in the worst possible way. The directing is terrible. The cinematography is terrible. The writing is disjointed and worse than terrible. I’m pretty sure the cameras and/or lighting has changed, possibly due to budgetary reasons? Certainly not the same look as previous seasons.
The only thing which hasn’t changed is the acting. Each character is still being well portrayed by each actor but it’s somewhat obvious they are working without direction and you can feel it from scene to scene. This is a massively disappointing outcome for me, because I originally rated this show a 9 but this first season four episode has dropped to about a 6. So unfortunate.
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@toastedzen Wow an expert in cameras, lighting, directing AND acting?! What a time to be alive! Glad to have stumbled across such a talented cameralightingdirectingactor.
I know to not be shocked by anything Gilead does now, but what possessed them to put a birthing suite at the top of three flights of stairs? I had trouble climbing stairs after 5 months. Forget about labour.
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@angelic-asmodel I think that was on purpose, to show how they don't care about women (and to give it a more 'locked in a tower' feel).
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I might be biased but I thought this was a complete waste of my time !
YES this is beautiful, YES there is some action and YES the aliens (and gory scenes) are great in this movie, but well...
I'm not spoiling there but : how can a crew responsible for 2000+ lives in a colony mission be so incompetent ?
I know the whole point of Alien films is to mix human errors and bad luck to make bad times, but this is just too much !
Overall, the scenario was quite hollow.I'll be spoiling a bit from now on :
really the only enjoyable moments were brought by the Synthetic stranded on the planet, this old generation David who served Dr Shaw was the only one bringing a bit of character depth, in the end I only wished he would "win" and was pleased to see that that's what happened.
The complete lack of responsibility from the crew was numbing : who would risk losing a spacecraft with thousands of souls onboard waiting to create a colony in a raging storm just to hope to have a contact with his half ? Who would again risk all colonists' lives and decades of preparations just to visit a planet they barely know anything of, just because they received a lost transmission of some singing ?
I know these are classic ways to bring this kind of situation in films, but the way it was brought was not subtle in the least.
In the end, while it was pretty clear for me that they had returned with the wrong David, this was the only really enjoyable moment.
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@frikilax Then I'm surprised you even watched this film after so many previous Alien films... They were all like this... I loved this one by the way, just as I loved the old ones. I was able to set aside the stupidity of the crew because I'm used to it after the other films. I was baffled Ripley could even survive the first films... Every single choice made by a character in the alien franchise is just retarded... But that's the case in a lot of suspense thrillers... I also liked David by the way ;-)
what a disappointing finale to a show that has been mostly lacklustre. Loki and Syvie spent most of it sitting down and talking which doesn't exactly make for an exciting episode. some questions were answered, but we were still left with more questions than answers. the reveal of Kang as the one behind the TVA was expected but was still underwhelming for several reasons. not once was he referred to as Kang, he wasn't wearing his iconic armour from the comics and the actor playing him came across as too jovial when Kang should be menacing.
oh well, Loki and Syvie finally kiss, so at least the shippers will be happy
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@quasar1967 Wasn't it the armor on the final statue at the TVA tho? Looks like there's a new boss.
it's all so damn annoying, especially Gert. why do people like it so much?
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@ruegnueg Why have you watched to this point if you hate find it so annoying? It's not like you're being forced.
