Here’s an unpopular opinion for y'all.
Very excited to finish The Haunting of Bly Manor, because watching it has been a boring experience. There's a difference between a slow burn and watching an unlit candle. I honestly couldn't get into this one. I mainly continued watching it hoping it would get better. I should have known that it wasn't going to be as good as The Haunting of Hill House from the first episode and how it didn't seem to intrigue me at all.
Plot was terrible, so many plot threads unfinished. They changed the main bad guy 3 times:
First - the fiance. He disappeared after showing himself at the end of the episode and never talked about again, no further explanation;
then - Quint and Rebecca. They dropped them as if they were any other random ghosts. If you spend so much time building up characters at least give them a meaningful ending;
then finally - lady in the lake. Speaking of which, the black and white episode was annoying as hell. The entire episode was a narrator telling you everything, felt like an info-dump episode, and that goes against the “show don't tell” mantra. You can fast forward through about 90% of it and still get the whole story. I found myself repeating “get on with it already!”. I didn't get that “shay wood slipe, shay wood wawck”? until they repeated for the 50th time! It stopped being poetic quickly and just started getting old for me. And I was hoping for something a bit more substantive than a 1700s ghost story. So predictable. I believe this was an attempt to create a second outing of a story similar to the bend-neck-lady, and I think it could have worked if I had already known more about Viola. To have an entire story about two characters the viewer have never met on the penultimate episode of the show just feels out of place.
Other major problems with this season:
The first half was episodes that were just backstory on each character and droned on and on. The characters kept making predictable and dumb decisions that are typical of cheesy Hollywood films - “Why don't I go in the closet alone at night....oh, look at that, the kids locked me in! Wow, how surprising.”; :rolling_eyes:
The uncle haunting himself was pointless. I was expecting something more sinister about how the parents died, instead we got no explanation about what happened;
How the hell had no one in the family ever heard of Viola or the other ghosts before? The Wingraves are just so lucky to have never been up at the same time that Viola was visiting;
Why the lady in the lake didn’t immediately kill Dani when she grabbed her neck? Peter got killed in two seconds, meanwhile Dani’s being shown a house tour;
There are no rules around who is able to see ghosts and who isn’t. I also couldn't understand how Flora seemed to know so much about the ghosts. She even says the other ghosts told her to stay away from the lady in the lake but how did they tell her? The ghosts have no faces and can't speak;
How didn't adult Flora connect the dots? Sure, Owen said the kids don’t remember much but even still Flora knows that her rich parents died in a tragic accident, her uncle took care of them, and they moved from England to America when they were kids. This is incredibly specific, how doesn't that ring any bells?;
There is so much useless dialogue that just goes absolutely nowhere. I felt a strong urge to stab my ears watching that first interview scene with Hannah and Owen over and over again. Every character was given a 10 minute monologue about their complicated feelings. Jamie’s plant monologue stood out to me as the most unnecessary one;
Speaking of which, there is so much exposition and explaining. So much repetition. The flashbacks while the characters are trying to figure out if they’re dead are an absolute bore to watch. There wasn't enough content for 9 episodes, could’ve easily been reduced to 5 episodes and still kept the emotional impact. And SO many scenes dragged on forever. There were a lot of points where I was just thinking, "get to the obvious point and move on". I get that the Scottish guy is going to take Becky into the lake, he doesn't need to keep alluding to it for 10 minutes. Same with them about to take the kids, while Dany was whining in the background. Why she was even there … so that she can hear the magical phrase, “it’s me. it’s you. it’s us.”. How convenient;
I don't like any of the characters. Dani annoyed me to new extremes, her character was just so dramatic. How many shots of Dani’s mouth kinda open do we need? I swear this was her only face expression during the whole season;
The ending felt so forced, rashly thrown together, with the unnecessary and convoluted time shifts leading to the most obvious, overly sentimental and corny reveal, with some more terrible dialogue, written to tug at the heartstrings of people. Flora’s quote at the end about how, “you called it a ghost story, but it’s a love story” just seems like a huge cop out. And people agreeing are just regurgitating the horrible ending. It was not just a love story until the end. If it wasn’t for the LGBT representation, people would have been more honest and called it what it is. :nail_care:
For the people (especially the Brits) complaining about the accents and asking for English actors. Where were you when you LOoOOvED Chernobyl? A show without even one Ukrainian actor? You guys are such big, fat, dumb hypocrites. :face_vomiting:
Overall, Bly Manor is aimless, dragged out, and sloppy. Not even close to being as good as its predecessor.
[7.4/10] Gosh that was long. I don’t think that any episode of television, even an epic season finale for one of television’s marquee shows, needs to be two and a half hours long. Sure, many movies are that long. But movies have the structure and pacing for it, with rising and falling action, act structures, and other foundational elements that make 150 minutes not feel that long. “The Piggyback is basically” fifteen minutes of prelude, followed by two hours of a third act climax, followed by fifteen minutes of an epilogue. It’s just too much.
But there’s good moments here! Eddie’s death is meaningful. Him playing Metallica’s “Master of Puppets” to lure the bats with Dustin is cheesy as hell, but just as awesome. His choice to stand and face the horror rather than run away from it as he did with Chrissy is inspiring and earnest. And there is irony and tragedy in his demise. He was the town pariah and scapegoat, but secretly one of its biggest heroes. The world will never know how he gave his life to save a town that hated him, but Dustin knows, and his uncle knows too. It’s sad, but comes with a certain poignancy.
The same goes for Max’s heartfelt admission that she spent so much time feeling guilt over Billy’s death that she wished something would happen to her, something that would make her disappear. It’s one of the most honest renditions of survivor’s guilt I’ve seen on television, and Sadie Sink owns the scene. The loss of someone who hurt you, but who was also hurt, is a complicated thing, and for all season 4’s missteps and questionable story choices, it gets Max’s vulnerability and strength in the shadow of unspeakable thoughts just right.
As tired as I am of “power of love” stories, I did like that it’s Mike finally saying the L-word that gives Eleven the strength to do her thing. It completes Mike’s arc, with him worrying that he’s not good enough to be with a superhero and that admitting his feelings would make it hurt more. But him deciding that’s baloney and affirming his love for Eleven in every form makes for a beautiful little monologue. The finale lays things on a little thick with visions of everyone’s plans failing and good folks suffering, but the idea that love spurs us to “fight” is a simple but effective tonic to that idea.
There’s a number of lesser but still good moments in the lead-up to this. Argyle finding a kindred spirit in a Nevada pizza shop is a fun win for him. Jonathan validating his brother and wanting to support him no matter whom he loves is a wholesome moment. The Russian prison guard convincing Yuri to once again be a “great man” and help save the motherland by saving “the Americans” is the best thing to come out of that storyline.
But again, there’s just too much going on, and a lot of it seems superfluous. It’s admirable that the Duffer Brothers want to give everyone in the cast something to do. But most everything outside of the Eleven/Max/Vecna confrontation seems like perfunctory piece-moving rather than a vital part of the action.
Lucas closes off the jock jerk/satanic panic storyline, but randomly finds the strength of will to avoid being strangled out of nowhere. Erica likewise beats up a bully twice her size almost at random. Steve, Robyn, and Nancy burn up Vecna in the Upside Down, but it doesn’t even kill him, so it feels like they just mildly inconvenience him. Eddie and Dustin fighting bats includes some cool sequences, and keeps Vecna’s minions from attacking the others, but is a sidestory at best. And once again, Hopper, Joyce, and Murray fighting the demogorgons and demodogs in Russia is the most tangential, tenuously-connected part of this whole season.
Jumping around to all of these storylines is just plain exhausting. While I wouldn’t call any of it filler (okay, maybe the business at the Russian prison), a lot of it feels much less urgent and essential than what’s going on in the main event.
The main event is good though. Max retreating to her happy place, and it being the finale of season 2, is a nice surprise. Eleven finding out how to “piggyback” and fight Vecna via Max’s mind is a cool trick and thrilling moment. And Eleven turning the tide and defeating One, however temporarily, is rousing.
But things quickly devolve into tired exposition and monologuing, where Henry explains how he’s going to shatter the borders between his world and ours, and how it was Eleven, not Dr. Brenner who made him. We already got a giant infodump at the end of episode 7, which was already kind of a stretch. This one is probably necessary, but listening to One simply announce his backstory with some of the usual visuals doesn’t add much intrigue or excitement to the proceedings.
Plus, the episode makes a big deal about how our heroes lose for the first time, but...it seems like they shouldn’t have? Sure, Henry succeeds, and there’s a giant Upside Down-fueled “earthquake” that devastates Hawkins. That’s unfortunate, and I’m glad there’s some kind of cost to all this interdimensional adventuring.
But Eleven found her inner strength and obliterated the guy in the mind realm! Robyn, Steve, and Nancy burned the hell out of him in the Upside Down and blasted him with a shotgun out the window! I’m not saying plausibility is the key in a show where the supernatural is the rule of the day. Yet, nothing in this feels like a loss. It feels like, by all rights, they should have been able to finish the job here and now with Vecna, and the only reason they didn’t is because there’s another season of Stranger Things that needs a villain, and the Duffer Brothers don’t want to have to come up with another one. It would have been better if Vecna had enjoyed more of an outright win than something that seems like a complete loss that turns out to be mere table-setting for season 5.
That said, we do get some great work with Max. It is harrowing watching the life leave her body as she cries out about how scared she is in all of this. It’s a nice contrast to where she’s reminded of what she has to live for with her friends and doesn’t want to disappear. Caleb McLaughlin does an extraordinary job as Lucas reacting to Max’s apparent death with his own cries of pain. And we’ve added to Eleven’s messianic nature by having her effectively revive Max, creating the second of two “miracles” in the episode, even if poor Max remains in a coma.
The epilogue is nice enough. There’s the bevy of tearful reunions you’d expect, with Eleven and Hopper being the best of them, naturally. I’m glad that the show didn’t just jump from climax to cliffhanger. It’s nice that we get some of the denouement and emotional aftermath of all these grand events. But considering how many concurrent storylines and characters they’ve been juggling to this point, even that soon feels overextended.
Regardless, Robyn forming a friendship that has the potential to lead to more with her crush is a really nice scene, and it’s good to see her get the win. Nancy and Jonathan’s deal continues to be confusing and pointless. Lucas reading a Stephen King book to a comatose Max is a creditable homage to one of the show’s clear inspirations. And seeing the town of Hawkins wonder why they’re cursed and forced to suffer like this, with the aftermath of Vecna’s handiwork coming to the fore, helps add a sense of place and scope to the scheme this season.
Overall though, this season finale bites of way more than it could chew. Why this couldn’t have been broken up into three episodes, or even just been built into a better act structure, is beyond me. There’s a lot of good material here. Some of it’s even great. But it’s presented in a way that makes it really hard to get your hands around.
Still, I like some of the big swings the show’s taken in season 4. Vecna introduces a retroactive backstory and mastermind for all that’s happened which is kind of hard to swallow. But having a villain with a face and a personality and a motive escalates this struggle into something broader and more meaningful as a reflection of Eleven’s own struggles. The show’s done good work with a number of the key relationships in the series, and introduced some solid new characters while reintroducing old ones. (I’m glad we got more Owens this year.)
But at the end of the day, this also feels like half a story, despite the ridiculously bloated runtimes for every episode. This is as much a prelude to season 4 as it is its own distinctive thing. Maybe that’s to be expected in the streaming era, but while there’s high points and quality elements at play, the season’s never more than the sum of its part.
Still, a friend described Stranger Things as a show that’s still exciting and worthy of investing in even when it’s missing half of its shots, and I think this finale is a good representation of that idea. Not everything works, and the time required prompts a certain exhaustion factor. But this feels epic and grand and satisfying enough as a temporary resolution to the season’s events. There’s a lot more ground to cover, but also enough to tug the heartstrings and make you cheer, which is still worth appreciating.
"iF yOu ThInK tHiS hAs A hApPy eNDinG, yOu hAvEn'T beEN pAyInG aTteNtIOn"
Literally everyone except Daenerys got a happy clean ending.
This episode and this season as a whole have been a complete and utter disaster. the decline of storytelling quality from the last seasons is shocking. The show is barely recognizable at this point.
A character who wasn't a contender for the throne ended up on it even though they have done absolutely nothing this whole season, had lots of potential to make for a very interesting role but was ignored and swept aside then suddenly elected king.
Daenerys's character being completely butchered as she was turned from someone who never showed the slightest disregard to innocents' safety to someone who commits mass genocide and shows no remorse afterwards, all in the span of 2 episodes.
So many character arcs were neglected or wrapped up poorly. Jon being reduced to a secondary character with a combination of three sentences of dialogue, Jaime's development being thrown out the window, Cersei barely doing anything and then getting killed by bricks, Tyrion, the master tactician, turning to a gossiping idiot then getting promoted after he quits his job (seriously?)
So many plot points were discarded or turned out insignificant. Azor Ahai, Jon's lineage, The Lord of Light, Cersei's prophecy...etc
The whole White Walkers storyline being eliminated in one episode, then the whole Iron Throne storyline being eliminated as well in the end (FFS)
So much shit not making the slightest bit of sense. Dany's army multiplying, Arya's impenetrable plot armor, The North getting the independence while the Iron Islands didn't when they were the first ones to demand it, Drogon not killing Jon after he killed Daenerys, hell, the Dothraki and the Unsullied not killing Jon after he killed Daenerys, The point of the Night's Watch now that the WW are gone. Tyrion being in chains and holding up a presidential vote over who would run the 6 republics. HBO c'mon man.
Overall the pacing was too fast and inconsistent, the ending was rushed, anti-climactic and nonsensical. This couldn't have ended in a worse way. Kudos to D&D!
How do you write about television? As a medium with so many individual pieces, prestige TV maximizes those pieces to the absolute limit, particularly when we have various creative talent that slide in and out from episode to episode.
Bly Manor is a deeply unsatisfying package, but even those packages have bits of goodness in them. This episode felt like the tiniest nugget of gold in a haystack I haven’t been able to care about. I felt like we finally got to the meat of the conflict here, but at what cost? We have floundered for six hours before we get to it, only seeing the slightest morsels of intrigue. I don’t care that the show isn’t scary—horror has never :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:really:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: been about scaring people, even though that’s ultimately what they do. But I can’t shake the fact that the whole interpersonal drama of Bly Manor is frustratingly misplaced and doesn’t really coexist within the genre to which it so desperately wants to belong. I don’t really recommend this series. I recommend other projects like it though: Crimson Peak or Hereditary to name a few. At the very least, I got my one morsel.
Who knows. Maybe I’m just a fool.
I watched every episode of Supernatural because when it aired it was something new and refreshing. It was "The Boys" of its time. For years we were stuck with female oriented supernatural stuff. From the Scream franchise ... they clobbered to death over Buffy, Angel and even Lucifer, it was always love and relationships.
Sam & Dean were beer drinking, burger eating, rocking badasses! Relationships were more like a Bond movie. Instead we got banter with Bobby, Cas and Cromwell. Episodes of them breaking the forth wall or even Scooby-Doo tribute were legendary.
So I checked out the pilot and they cover a part that was already told in the original series. Without any explanation they changed that. I can't be bothered to look it up, but they also changed a LOT of lore. Introduced the most boring arc of the Original with the Men of Letters in such a tempo it had my head spinning. They don't speak like in the seventies, they don't act like that time and they don't dress the part. I know it's low budget but come on.
Now if that was needed to deliver a kickass spin off, I would have forgiven it, but then they showed us the supporting characters. A person of color and a dandy. I'm all for inclusion but both felt like the bare minimum to meet the quota. Either you go woke or you don't, this just pisses of everybody.
This pilot is something my son would have turned in as homework, something with minimal effort to get a passing grade.They even go hunting in a van like the Scooby-Doo gang. I was really looking forward to this but this only damages the original in my book
A little more Black Mirror like than the first one, but come on.
The plot is a very basic hostage situation and they all look the same. The whole thing is totally predictable and hold little interest except for Andrew Scott performance. I didn't even recognize Topher Grace, so good on his part too. It's not bad, it has all what you would expect, but also yeah, you expect it all.
As for the theme, this show used to be about visionary stuff not dayly occurences. Social media is addictive and the company design it this way and it's bad. Really ? Now ? Also don't use your phone while driving, wow ! I mean, there's nothing special here, how many people died this way ? Thousands ? There are litteraly hundreds of people dying each year by taking selfies in stupid places, will they also make a whole episode about it ?
It's also showing that these companies can have everything on you, and spy on you, that's actually a bigger thing than the addiction issue, but it's just passed over when that should be a way better reason to go after them.
And where's the boldness in attacking Facebook now ? And not really attacking either, taking the choice of humanizing the ones that take these decisions like they just happened and were not conscious decisions to make money at the detriment of everything else, that's a poor direction for what this show used to be about.
A small point, that most people will probably not notice. The Persona company sends the mother her daughter's password. It kinda look like a nice thing, but it shows that they won't do it for legal reasons (wouldn't the heir of a deceased person would be lengally entitled to that ?), but they will share their customer data if another billionaire tech bro asks them too. It also means that they can access the clear text passwords of their users. Both things are very wrong. Both also happened to have been in the news about Facebook in the past months. Not sure if it's on purpose or a coincidence. It's pretty hidden for something that's on point on technology misuses, you know, the kind BM used to be about.
Boring, predictable and... goddamn awful. In what could have been an interesting episode despite the once again obvious parallels to what we once called "Real Life" this completely, but not unexpectedly, missed the ball.
A hole in one? Nope, not by a long shot Mister Peele. On the contrary... Cause like said in the episode "that's not how it works". You can't just make something "topical" and expect it to be good... There needs to be effort and talent. Again... the subliminal message in this show swings both sides but all I'm seeing is a preacher whose preaching to the choir even though he's being sucked off in the process. "Cause Jeebus he knows me, and he knows I'm right. I've been talking to Jeebus all my life."
I'm starting to think we are living in the Twilight Zone cause if this drek is considered good I don't see how it possibly can't be true.
Inside I feel a bit like I'm in the first few seconds of a moment when an anxiety attack occurs... It's not quite there yet, and it can go away but it's gonna hit if you don't stop thinking of it. The fear will overwhelm you and the dominoes will fall... I'm reading reviews and there are actually people who defend and like this stuff... Liking it to the best episodes Sterling ever made. Propaganda anno 2019. If it weren't just "entertainment" it'd be scary... Domino.
Eh wtf is this? Despite the huge hype for this episode it's probably the most dumbest, hilarious retarded shit I've ever seen. They literally killed their own infantry by sending Dothraki tribe first into the dark. Nice tactic, well played.
They could've lightened up the area with something to see what's coming instead of getting butchered like pigs. They had all the time in the world before the war and all they could come up with is a narrow burning trench? They already know there are lots of undead and no one saw that coming? So scared that they forgot to plan their defenses properly??
Jon and Dany, fuck were they doing so far away on the mountain top? They could've done some recon using the dragons or something, instead chose to watch lmfao.
How in the hell did Arya sneak up behind the night king without getting caught? The undead made up the path only to let The Night King in, if she were that invisible then she wouldn't have much problem escaping the undead previously in the library. It would've made more sense if she's up on the tree.
And Jon tries to close the distance between him and the dragon only to fucking shout at it?Without even trying to attack? Wtf was he expecting?
This is Game of Thrones we are talking about, not some B grade crap wth, totally disappointed.
OK, this is a pilot and they already judged sororities and men in general.
The lesbian one checks all the preconceptions there are about lesbians (for example: they hate men). Well, at least thats my take on her character.
Who goes around telling everyone what consent is and that it can be revoked at any time.
And then using the phrase while advertising for pilates?
using one or the other would have been kind of cool.
Using both in the same scene is just desperate.
Besides the SJW-Stuff: The speech about winning prices for deciphering magic scientifically was way too much.
Also: "Baking-Powder works too"? It exists for quite some time now, if witches are powerful and intelligent women you should think someone would have thought of it already or at least it would have happened by accident...
Also: Way too extreme special effects.
The Original Charmed worked as a mirror for boys/men who watched it (Can't speak to what it did for girls...), while still being fun.
This Pilot felt more like being judged for things you haven't even done.
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To make it clear: Consent can be revoked at any time. I just have a problem with people, who feel the need to tell it to everyone every chance they get and kill the mood for people who are clearly both consenting.
And I also hate it, when people assume that a man won't respect a no. The ones that don't are an absolute minority.
Scenes like this strengthen that preconception...
So much cut-and-paste from Love Live! season 1. SO MUCH.
I want to like this show, I really do. But so far it's spent way too much time trying to tell me, "Look! I'm still Love Live! See how similar I am?"—and that feels incredibly cheap, like the writers couldn't think of any original ideas so they paraphrased the story outlines from the first show.
A little bit of originality crept in here at the end (when it turned out people didn't come to the concert because Chika put the wrong day on the fliers), but other than that it felt like a carbon copy of how µ's got their name and the START:DASH!! concert. Sloppy writing there at the end of the episode, too. It just kind of ended, and there was nothing after the ED even though it felt like there should have been some kind of tag on it.
This is episode 3, and I usually decide whether to continue with an anime after 3 episodes. For now I will keep going, since averaging 6/10 isn't bad enough to stop me. But if I keep having to fight down the urge to rant about how much of a copy this show is, I'll eventually throw in the towel.
Story time:
Once upon a time, Castle was my favorite show. I discovered it two years ago, and I loved everything about it. The writing. The characters. Castle and Beckett's dynamic. The way they balanced comedy and drama. It was perfect: well-acted, surprising, charming, funny, but also dark and intense when it needed to be. It was everything you could possibly want from a TV series. People say that when two main characters get together, it ruins the show because apparently established relationships are not interesting to the viewers. But in Castle and Beckett's case, it worked. It really did.
Until they decided to make Castle disappear on his wedding day in season 6 finale. That was the first time I was genuinely disappointed with the show, but I kept watching because I still loved it.
Season 7 was noticeably more forgettable than the previous ones, but it had enough good moments for me to feel somewhat satisfied. We got the wedding, they tied up the 3XK storyline (which, in hindsight, were the last two truly good episodes of Castle ever). Although Andrew Marlowe wasn't the showrunner anymore, he stuck around as a writer, and it was obvious that as long as he was there, he kept the show from going completely downhill.
And then the new showrunners took over in season 8 and destroyed everything that Castle had once been.
Season 8 was an insult to the audience. There's no other way to put it. The writing was mediocre at best and straight-up awful most of the time. Separating Castle and Beckett was unbelievably stupid. None of the new characters were likeable. Stana Katic had too little screen time, and Castle's PI business became the focus of the show. I wish I had something nice to say about this season, but there's nothing. All I feel is bitterness, and I can't imagine how people who have been watching the show since 2009 must feel. I stopped watching this trainwreck when I heard that they'd fired Stana, but I came back for the finale after they announced the cancellation. I was relieved. I hoped the show would end with some dignity. Which it didn't, but at least Beckett's alive, so I'll take it. If they'd got rid of the last shooting and made the epilogue longer, it would've been fine. But they very clearly wanted to show that they intended to kill Beckett before the series got cancelled. It was like one last slap from the writers to the audience.
I don't know if the rumors about Stana and Nathan hating each other are true. All I know is that those two seem like really nice people if their interviews and panels are anything to go by. Especially Stana has always struck me as a classy, lovely person. They appeared to be thick as thieves during their PaleyFest panel in 2012, and then, at the same event in 2013, they weren't even sitting next to each other. I can't imagine what happened between them, and we'll probably never know. But one way or another, their relationship off-screen didn't have anything to do with Castle's long-overdue cancellation. Low ratings and backlash from fans after the showrunners tried to make Beckett-less season 9 happen did.
If I decide to rewatch the show in the future (and I probably will because seasons 1-6 really were excellent, and season 7 still had some of that flair left), I'll be sure to skip the abomination that was season 8 entirely. The ending of season 7 was a better and more satisfying series finale anyway.
Goodbye, Castle. I won't miss you in the fall, and I'm sad that it had to end like this, but you were incredible once. And that's how I want to remember you.
I could fly an interstellar starship through the plot holes in this thing.
How did you get that video? She's a computer, she could have recorded it through her EYES.
A virus that targets hybrids, a species that can reconfigure its DNA into a triple helix and adapts remarkably fast, but doesn't impact humans. Yeah, sure, War of the Worlds much.
Hi, I just met you, and you held a gun on me, but I'm going to leave the last known alien-human hybrid with you for safekeeping, that's logical right.
An AI, given the choice between working with a starfaring alien species and a bunch of hairless apes...sides with the apes? Poppycock. It'd reach out to the aliens without hesitation as it presents an infinitely more expansive knowledge expansion potential.
And again, why start the alien invasion in the United States? If their goal was to disseminate and populate, an African or South American starting zone would have made so much more sense.
Everyone on this show is dumb. The Humaniks, the humans, the hybrids, all dumb as a box of RNA. Which should go extinct? If judging from this show alone, all of them.
REALLY?!?! REALLY!??! Ethan is just going to terminate one of his own based on the worlds of Daniel? And come on, I HATE Julie, couldn't he just have waited another moment or two? Ugh, this show is so bloody awful.
