I think I expect more and more but something's really missing in these crossover series. It should be more new story with the heroes instead of showing some at the end of the parts. Totally, it'll be around 160 mins but till now it's just like 15 or 20 mins about the real story and this doesnt feel right to me, sorry. Nah! I didnt like it so much and very under of my expectations. :/
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While I did like the episode and the cross-over so far, I agree that it feels rushed and clipped in places, and suspect that they could do a much better job with it all if it were fleshed out over three (or more) times the time-length that these four episodes are crammed into.
Well played you assholes. Playing with our feels like that :'(
The chemistry with Laurel and Oliver had was great. Still hate the fact that they killed her off and let Felicity stay. I curse them to this day for that shit move. Was quite emotional, the scenes with Oliver's dad and mom, Thea wanting to stay and the part where they were about to leave the "Shared Hallucination" showing all them in the form of holograms was a nice touch. Was kinda hoping we'd get to see Tommy tbh. His death hit me real hard. It would have been great to see him again :') Oh well :/
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I agree about Tommy ("sorry he couldn't make it"), but I thought I saw him (and Roy) among the stiff shimmering images that Oliver turned back to see (and Tommy's voice saying something like "you're not a murderer") just before stepping through the portal into awakeness. Those could have just been based on images captured from previous seasons, but, still, it was kind of a nice touch.
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8Welcome to part 2 of my messy overemotional written-while-half-asleep-at-5-AM crossover review, where coherent train of thought isn't a thing and punctuation rules don't matter. Buckle up, nerds, because this was freaking wild and we've got a lot to talk about.
First of all, the Dominators and the special effects in general were insane. Especially considering that this is a CW show and not a big-budget movie. Everything looked great and the action scenes were amazing.
Every year the crossover rolls around and I get to play a fun little game called "Does person X know person Y's secret identity? Have these two characters ever actually interacted before? Who was there when that other thing happened?". You can imagine how absolutely frustrating that is for someone like me, with my attention span of a hyperactive golden retriever puppy. Those are four massive TV shows we're talking about, and they're not the only ones I watch! How am I supposed to remember if Barry and Sara have ever talked before?
The writers managed to do the impossible: practically every single character had their moment in the spotlight, which is impressive with a cast this big and only 42-minute runtime. So kudos for that. What I don't understand is why we had to listen to Wally whining for like 8 of those minutes. That was just annoying. "Why won't they let me help fight aliens?" I don't know, dumbass, maybe it's because you got your powers like 2 seconds ago and you have no training whatsoever?
I liked Oliver's speech to Barry about change and people making choices. I wholeheartedly agree. I wish the other characters would stop getting mad at Barry for Flashpoint. Yeah, he fucked up, and let's hope he finally learns from his mistakes, but it's not like the people around him haven't made some shitty decisions. Give the guy a break. I mean, how can Cisco be sure that his brother wouldn't have died in the original timeline?
Oh, and if I heard correctly, Supergirl's Earth is Earth-38? I don't know why it's important to me, but I'm happy to know that.
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That quick throwaway Earth-38 reference makes a sort of sense, I think. If you realize that DC Comics really does define (and number) a bunch of parallel Earths like that, it seems that Earth-38's superhero presence was largely defined by a classic version of Superman and Batman and their family lines -- makes sense for a TV universe that includes Supergirl and Superman (and mention of that gadget-rich demon-haunted vigilante) and not much of any other superhero names.
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Earth_38
http://www.dccomics.com/characters/earth-38
etc.
If nothing else, and even though I was never much of a comic-book fan, I do appreciate when today's modern superhero TV shows make these continuity connections (even little ones) with actual comic book histories. Nice job, that. ??
Did I miss something ? How is Ray's Atom outfit back and I thought Thea didn't want to be Speedy anymore.
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Both of those were addressed pretty clearly (if quickly/briefly) within the episode.
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8Our favorite agents are finally back after 3 weeks, and holy shit, this episode was a masterpiece. Easily the best they've done this season, maybe even one of the best ever.
I loved the two points of view: the normal one and the weird, sepia, Instagram filter one. Showing us the scenes from two different perspectives was a genius move and made for a super intense and fascinating story.
I adore May and Coulson's relationship. I've always kind of shipped these two, but now that it's pretty obvious they're going to get together, I can barely handle my emotions. I'm really rooting for them.
We finally know what Simmons' secret mission was. I'm enjoying the way she's grown this season. She's so fierce and doesn't take shit from anyone. I wonder what that Inhuman's power is. And why was he stuck in the cocoon for 7 months? Okay, so he was scared, but somehow I don't believe that's the only reason.
I'm not going to lie, I cried like a bitch when Fitz and Simmons were reunited. My beautiful science babies. Elizabeth Henstridge and Iain de Castecker are both outstanding actors. They never fail to break my heart.
Poor Mack. Can someone please give him a hug?
Oh, and Robbie's alive! I knew it!
What the hell is Aida doing? Please, please, don't make her evil. I really like her. As much as you can like an android, that is.
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We finally know what Simmons' secret mission was... I wonder what that Inhuman's power is.
And why there was so much interest and secrecy around his particular case, including the way Gemma was hooded and carted off so quickly after the cocoon started to release...
What the hell is Aida doing? Please, please, don't make her evil. I really like her.
I'm hoping for more Vision than Ultron for her. ("Aida, meet Vision. You two should hang out.") The original Marvel Comics' Aida seemed pretty benevolent, but we all know how these modern takes like to twist things, and she did just read a big chunk of the Darkhold, so...
please don't make another ultron XD
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I was thinking more that, after this, Aida should visit with Vision for awhile, but...
Again this was a very cool episode! But one thing wasn't realistic: WHY DID KARA NOT PUT THE MASK OFF AND BURN EVERYONE TO ESCAPE WITH Mon-El????
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Exactly what we were thinking. (Actually, my wife practically yelled it at the TV.). Kara very likely could have fried everyone present before they could do much in response. Or, at least if there was some defense in place to prevent her from doing so, Mrs. Luther would have been smart enough to point it out.
For the most part, this show seems to be getting better and better (yay!), but the occasional bits of sloppy-writing like that still leave stains. I hope the writing continues to improve past the point of such gaping plot-holes.
I've been looking forward to this, and it didn't disappoint. Kevin Smith should direct more episodes: cool and emotional.
"Oh my God, Julian is Dr Alchemy. What a surprise" said nobody, ever. I guess Malfoy never changes. That was the worse kept secret ever. Although I guess he's not doing it consciously or maybe someone's forcing his hand, or split personatity. I hope there's something else. I love the scene between Caitlin and Barry. It got me at the edge of my seat. I really love Barry and Cisco's brotherly relationship and I refuse to see them fighting like this. It breaks my heart to see the funny Cisco turned into a depressed character. And finally Barry came to his senses and admitted what we all shouted in last year's finale "why didn't I follow you inside the house?"
I loved badass Killer Frost scenes. And her powers are more impressive than her earth-2 doppelganger, like the cold breath. I laughed so loud when she kidnapped Julian only to have him Google some shit up. I get she did it because he saw her, but anyways, it was fun to watch. And Julian made Barry quit CSI, although I guess he will soon be hired again. Honestly, Barry did one of the things I've been looking forward for someone to do since the second episode: punch Julian right in the face. "This lab is your life", well Iris, we've seen Barry more time out of his lab than inside, so I guess that's not his life, although that's where it all started.And wtf, every single speedster is now faster than Barry? he's got to be the slowest speedster alive. I'm still waiting for the hell of a pep talk Barry will eventually need to defeat Savitar. By the way, that first scene with Savitar dragging Barry around and taking him through the speedforce was awesome.
Now that Wally has powers I hope he stops whinning about everything. it annoys me, although I get his point. I liked his reaction, though. It made me laugh.
And now, let's get into the crossover. I can't be more exited for the superhero team-up!
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Ragdoll Barry was something of an experience.
I'm half expecting the solution to super-duper-speedy Savitar to be some sort of powers-fusion between Barry, Jessie, and Wally. But, if it is, make it look a lot better than I just made it sound, please?
Great performance of Caitlin dealing with her powers. Killer Frost was one of the best things about season 2 and I'm glad it didn't stop there. I always had a soft spot for Snowbarry, funny how they kiss again in a very odd situation (although it really wasn't Barry the first time). I'll pretend that Wally didn't get the speed that he so damn desires. And on a bright note, I enjoyed seeing Greg Grunberg.
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Agreed about Greg Grunberg. ("Hey, Mark Parkman finally made detective!")
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8Okay, raise your hand if you were surprised by the fact that Julian is Alchemy.
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Yeah, I didn't think so. It was one of the most obvious reveals ever.
Savitar is super cool. Special effects were out of control in this episode.
I honestly laughed at Iris telling Barry that the CSI lab is his life. We hardly ever see him there. I think he'll be fine.
Wally was so happy and excited when they were testing his speed. It was adorable.
Oh, Caitlin. My beautiful baby. I really hope that they will find a way to get her powers under ontrol. I'm glad that the team didn't turn their backs on her.
Barry's confrontation with Killer Frost was such an amazing scene. It was so intense and I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, even though I knew that there was no way they were going to kill Barry. Still, it definitely stood out to me.
I love Barry and Cisco's relationship. I don't want to see either of them sad. Just please, make up and be happy.
Nice Game of Thrones reference there, Cisco!
We're getting the crossover next week and I couldn't be more excited! I love big superhero team-ups!
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We'd been pretty suspicious that Julian would turn out to be Alchemy, although I was kinda hoping he wasn't -- major new character, too easy a fit, don't let it be that simple, etc. -- but, oh, well. IAC, the interesting bit here seemed to be that Julian didn't seem to want it, telling the voice to go away but apparently being drawn to it anyway. I'm hoping the backstory there will be interesting enough to make up for the semi-obviousness.
So, they're trying to turn captain Barnes into "The Judge"? because I'd be okay with that. I mean, that storyline sort of fits with his character.
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It does look kinda like it. And I saw at least one article out there exploring that idea. Or maybe he's a sort of precursor inspiration for who'll eventually become The Judge in the same way that Jerome Valeska seems to be a sort of precursor inspiration for who'll eventually become The Joker. Interesting...
So pissed about what happened to Isabella..
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Much sad, there. Seems her only purpose will end up being an eventual wedge between Ed and Oswald. 'Cause there's just no way Ed won't eventually figure it all out.
Now they turn good guys into bad guys ? Like there weren't enough bad ones..
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Isn't that often how it works, especially in Batman's world? Edward Nygma. Barbara Kean. Bridgit Pike. Nathaniel Barnes. (And the odd occasional hints at Harvey Dent.) So far, this series has been doing a pretty good job of illuminating how dark and sad those stories are.
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8First of all: YAAAAAAS, Jemma Simmons, my queen. Standing up to the Director like that and low-key blackmailing him? What an icon. What a badass.
So this week we got Agents of SHIELD: Prison Break edition! It was a perfectly entertaining, fast-paced, action-packed episode with just enough twists and turns to keep me on the edge of my seat. The special effects were great, as always.
I find it hard to believe that some of SHIELD's finest teamed up with a rogue Inhuman and a guy whose body is literally on fire sometimes and the Director didn't know anything about it. Like??? There was a plane and a quinjet involved? How is it possible that no one noticed?
I think it's safe to say that the May/Coulson romance is happening. "I saw you, Phil."? That is a line straight out of every cheesy fanfic ever written. I love it! Give me more!
Can FitzSimmons not fight, please? I just want these two to be happy. They deserve it.
It's absolutely hilarious to me that the book that contains infinite knowledge has its title written on the cover in big, sparkly letters. You'd think that whoever created it would've made it look more unassuming, but no. Here it is, Darkhold, ancient and powerful, looking like a 10-year-old's diary.
I'm glad that May said all those things to Daisy. If anyone can talk some sense into that girl, it's Melinda May.
Oh, and Daisy's eye make-up was out of control in this episode. Did she read Bucky Barnes' Begginers' Guide to Looking Like a Racoon?
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I have to wonder if "I saw you, Phil." is going to turn out to be a more interesting reference that that. I have this strange image of her having seen Phil wearing a tropical T-shirt and shorts and carrying a sign that reads "Come to Tahiti: It's a magical place", but I doubt that'll quite be it. Hopefully, it'll be something more interesting and enigmatic than that.
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VIP8"Our friends in 2016? They need our help."
Oh, man. I'm so freaking excited for this crossover. We just have to wait one more week!
I can't believe that I almost stopped watching this show halfway through season 1. I absolutely adore it now. Season 2 has been amazing so far.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it wouldn't be an episode of Legends of Tomorrow without a bar fight. Sara fucking shit up with a whip was fantastic. I rewinded that moment like 12 times when I was watching the episode.
"This isn't my first rodeo." - Sara Lance at her second rodeo
I love her so freaking much. She could punch me in the face and I'd probably thank her.
Nate's suit is so dope!
The first Wild West episode was great (definitely one of the highlights of an otherwise uneven and messy season) and I had high hopes for this one. It didn't disappoint. It was hilarious, it was action-packed, it was just incredibly fun. I enjoyed every minute of it.
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"Sara fucking shit up with a whip was fantastic."
We could definitely do to see Indiana Lance a bit more often. :-)
Hell, I'd love to see 'em drop by 1937 Chicago and get some whip tips (and artifacts?) from Dr. Jones himself, but... Disney owns Indiana Jones, which makes it cousin to Marvel, so... oh, well; it sounded good in my head.
Oh boy, that was just oooh. I'm going to get royally pissed off if they kill Patterson. Overall, what an episode. It had me on the edge every single minute. It was so obvious that the psychologist was the mole so it didn't surprise me a lot. in fact, they do not seem to try to hide it. The Jane and Roman storyline was obvious too. I mean I expected him to "betray" his mother to save his sister. What I didn't expect was that Jane erased his memory. That's some serious shit. I honestly can't wait to see next episode. January 5th looks so far. I swear if they kill Patterson off I riot.
if Patterson dies, we riot. Although I don't think they will. She's the kind of character that is needed, and there's no other possible replacement. She provides comic relief and killing her off will mean to kill off the comedy on the show. That said, I'm not entirely sure what's going to happen next, although if I'm honedt, I think she was shot, but she's not going to die. I don't know, but her eyes flashed a little, like she was the one being shot. I love cliffhangers, but only those that do not end up with the possible or not possible death of a major character. Now, let's wait till next episode.
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They did drop some hints along the way suggesting that Dr. Borden would be the mole ("you speak Arabic?"), but I guess I was kinda hoping they were misdirection hints, and we'd be surprised that it was someone else.
Wouldn't be surprised if she were shot and badly hurt in the exchange, he flees (not wanting to kill her), she ends up in the hospital and tells everyone about him, but kinda too late: he's gone.
And... blank Roman... boy is he in for some confusion. As long as he doesn't have to wake up in a dufflebag...
Bruh I'm gonna flip the fuck out if Patterson dies
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No kidding. Seems unlikely, just 'cause the show would have to fundamentally change without her. But... I guess we'll have to wait to find out...
That final twist felt a lot like the ending of 3x05, when we learn that Roy supposedly killed Sara. Except, well, for the fact that I don't buy this for a single second
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Exactly my thought. Misdirection, by the writers, and by Prometheus. I hope.
We can safely say Billy Malone is Prometheous, that explains why he acted so curious when Felicity said she worked for the GA, or was it just me who noticed that? He was mad at first but when she said Green Arrow he turned into a fanboy and didn't want to loose Felicity
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I think almost anyone would burst with curiosity on hearing something like that. Not that I haven't wondered about him, anyway...
Tommy? Now there's a wild idea... which'd be in need of a hell of a story to flesh it out, but...
No fucking way... there's no way he's actually Prometheus. Stop fucking with us
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Yeah, not to mention the ninja fighting and archery skills we've seen from Promethius, which would be rather difficult to explain in Quentin. Hopefully this is more along the lines of Promethius messing with Oliver through Quentin, which I could much more easily see...
This show should be called The Flash & The Belly Burger.
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Next screw-up of the timeline will result in: Flashbelly.
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8Meta-humans are one thing. But a giant monster? That's a whole new level of cool. I jumped out of my seat when I saw it. What a shame that it was just a hologram.
Do I care about freaking Julian now? Yes, I do. I don't know how this show does it: one episode I can't stand a character and the next I have tears in my eyes because of him? What kind of sorcery is this?
I'm still not sure what to think about H.R. It's hilarious that he's not actually a scientist, but I think I preferred grumpy overprotective dad from Earth-2.
Caitlin's mom was played by an actress who was also Tyler's mom on The Vampire Diaries and Lydia's mom on Teen Wolf. I guess she's meant to always exist in my mind as someone's mom.
The whole Caitlin storyline was weird. Caitlin told her mom that her husband had died and her mom basically said "Okay, whatever". Caitlin almost killed a guy and her mom was like "Yeah, no big deal, let's hug it out, now go". It seemed so strange and awkward, and the way the characters reacted to what was happening didn't feel right.
It's not fair that Caitlin's powers come with a catch and Barry's don't. I mean, what the hell is this? "You can run super fast and you'll be totally fine as long as you eat enough. And you can freeze things, but hey, if you do it too many times, you'll become a homicidal maniac. Why? Because fuck you, that's why."
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You can run super fast but if you're not really careful you can run back in time and totally screw up the entire timeline for everyone in existence. ;-)
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VIP6The action in the end is disappointing since it was rushed. Riggs is told his friend is downstairs with the bad guy. When he's really chasing her with his truck. Riggs suddenly shows up in his car and quickly blows up the bad guys truck with a couple of gun shots.
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The suddenly-in-the-car chase I kinda get -- they skipped over a bit to get to the road-chase -- although it was a bit disorienting and might seem too discontinuous to many.
I had more of a problem with the (IMO) wild improbability of the two-shots-while-driving-and-the-target-car-goes-boom and the hyperconvenient car-flip that neatly missed crushing the would-be victim. A little of that sprinkled around the show's stories I can accept and still have fun watching; a lot of that and I end up losing interest (and considering filing it away with Scorpion). Let's hope that this show doesn't wander too far into the latter. 'Cause so far, most of it's been pretty fun (IMO).
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8That was a good episode. Looks like another thing that changed when Barry altered the timeline was that the writers remembered how to make a superhero show.
The whole "Wild Dog screws up, Oliver gets angry and walks away" formula is getting annoying. We get it, he's the Impulsive One. No need to bring it up for the 50th time since the beginning of the season.
Both storylines were decently executed. Oliver breaking John out of prison was all right, although personally I thought that the rest of the team going after Church was a lot more interesting. The baby vigilantes are growing on me and the whole team dynamic is getting better. I'm starting to like both Evelyn and Rory.
I really enjoyed all the Felicity/Rory scenes. They felt very genuine and heartfelt. I already love their friendship.
I'm no scientist, and I certainly don't know a lot about physics, but I'm pretty sure that getting pulled up by a plane with a harness around your waist would hurt. A lot. Possibly even injure you? Break some bones? Rip your spine out? I don't know.
Superhero costumes aren't exactly notorious for being practical, I realize that, but what the hell is up with Curtis' mask? How does he manage to keep it on his face when he's fighting? Sheer force of will? Superglue? I know that his superhero name is Mr Terrific, but was slapping a piece of cloth shaped like the letter T on his face the best they could come up with?
"Was he waiting for an entrance line?"
And that, ladies and gentlemen, was the first time in years that Arrow has genuinely made me laugh.
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I'm no scientist, and I certainly don't know a lot about physics, but I'm pretty sure that getting pulled up by a plane with a harness around your waist would hurt. A lot.
Yeah, at least. Going from standing still instantly to in-tow by an aircraft is one hell of an accelerating moment, probably would have smashed the two of them together, too.
Fun as this show usually is, it takes a little too much license with basic physical reality -- this, and that "anti-molecular compound" aerosol that eats a super-neat circle through a two-foot stone floor in a few seconds -- often enough to annoy. The writers are capable of much better than that.
I did much appreciate "What he waiting for an entrance line?" -- like the writes're tossing us a little acknowledging nod: "Okay, yeah, we time that a little too neatly to be real; we know." Nice.
Amazing Episode, It reminds of Dr Who Season 9 Episode 11 which was titled "Heaven Sent"
I like this kind of Episodes I wish There is more shows that have these kind of things.
About ed nygma things look weird I don't think the" Kringle Doppelganger" Really love nygma and obviously Not with Penguin.
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Yeah, Barnes's current struggle does make me wonder if he can remain around at all for much longer. Sad, but if he goes out, I hope he at least goes out well.
Wtf? I don't like the direction they're taking with Penguin.
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It's a little odd, but just wait until Penguin's continued attempts to drive Isabella away become obvious to Ed -- then, both of their mad crazies're gonna evolve yet more...
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8FitzSimmons are looking for an apartment. Have the writers been reading fanfiction? Because I love it.
We haven't had this much interaction between Daisy and Jemma since... well, ever? I loved their team-up in this episode. I'm totally here for Jemma Simmons being an all-around BAMF. And the look of confusion and mild panic on Daisy's face when she saw Jemma just hand over that flash drive was priceless.
I've never liked James, and this episode didn't score him any extra points. And Watchdogs are the absolute worst. I despise all of them so much. Prejudiced, hateful assholes. Just thinking about them makes me mad.
I wish we could just get rid of the "lone hero pushes everyone away and becomes a vigilante because they've been through a trauma" trope. It's insanely frustrating. You could just talk about your issues and hug it out and shit, but no, let's be broody and dramatic instead. It makes me want to punch a wall.
May looked so unimpressed and disappointed in herself when she realized that she'd been killed by Radcliffe and it was hilarious.
Coulson not letting Mack touch Lola is my favorite running gag.
Of course Jemma wasn't fooled by Aida. Next week we'll probably get to see how good she's gotten at lying.
Oh, and Robbie fighting James? Freaking awesome.
I'm super curious about Darkhold. Where did it come from? What's inside of it? I can't wait to find out.
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For a little about the original Marvel Comics concept of Darkhold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkhold
"Did you just Donkey Kong those two guys?"
haha I thought the exact same thing when that happened. 200 points for Riley! <3
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That was easily the best line in the episode. :-)
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8The JSA was freaking awesome. As someone who's read a grand total of 0 comic books, I had no idea what to expect from them, but they were super cool. Is this Vixen related to the Vixen that appeared on Arrow that one time?
I like the new guy. And his interactions with his grandfather were really nice.
I absolutely love the atmosphere of the 40's. Well, except for the blatant racism.
Sara wearing a 1940's evening gown and a diamond necklace is my new aesthetic. She looked georgeous.
Holy cow, Professor Stein can sing! I was worried for a second that this would be one of those scenes where he turns out to be horrible at it and I want to die of second-hand embarrassment, but thankfully I was wrong.
Of course, it wouldn't be an episode of Legends of Tomorrow if someone didn't start a bar fight. It's actually kind of hilarious when you think about it: a lovable team of misfits travelling through time, causing massive property damage in every alcohol-serving establishment they walk into.
The super soldier looked super cheap, but I can't really blame them. They probably did the best they could with their budget, and all the other special effects in this episode looked good, so I won't complain.
Hey, I quite like this Rex guy, I wonder if we'll get to see more of... Aaaaaaand he's dead. Damn it, Eobard.
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The 40s JLA Vixen, Amaya Jiwe, is the grandmother of present-day Vixen Mari Jiwe McCabe.
"Out Of Time" (hmm, slight Back to the Future reference, maybe?) Anyway, I'm really liking the Arrow tie-in before entering the Three Musketeers, and then a 1940s noir run with Albert Einstein. Now I'm just wishing for Dick Tracy to show up.
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I was thinking Indiana Jones, especially after Rory's initial comment about hating Nazis. That'd probably be something of a licensing problem for them, but at least it sounded good in my head. ;-)
