This episode shows why The Orville is such a wonderful show and my favorite of this season. The show is reflective of real-world issues while being entertaining at the same time. This episode was a tad preachy, but it still entertains and is thought-provoking.
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@ultramookie Yeah such a weak fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes. Is just because critics really don't like Seth McFarlane.
Merry Christmas to us the audience. Excellent episode. I loved all the callbacks to the original film. Riggs in the red plaid shirt? Check. Riggs driving truck through Murtaugh's living room? Check. Christmas theme and music? Check.
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@ultramookie and even the same song that was played in the strip club scene in Beverly Hills Cop.
Merry Christmas to us the audience. Excellent episode. I loved all the callbacks to the original film. Riggs in the red plaid shirt? Check. Riggs driving truck through Murtaugh's living room? Check. Christmas theme and music? Check.
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@jim222001 Or how Riggs wrecked the buffet at the Harrow club...
This is a comedy? It wasn't much on the funny side of things.
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@ultramookie omg it was terrible. Worst show I have seen in awhile.
I can't remember much of the first two films in this series. I actually can't remember why I even watched the first. But, it was nice to see the series finish up on the big screen, having I watched the first two on video.
The one thing this film has going for it is a constant sense of moment and urgency. And this is a great thing because the running time of the film is so long. The opening train sequence was Fast and Furious-like and worked very well. There are other action sequences spread throughout the film, they are fairly generic, but well-done. The special effects in the film were also impressive.
There are no Oscar-worthy performances in the film, but the actors all do give it all they have and it shows.
Overall, I am glad this this series got a big screen finale -- unlike the YA series that I begrudgingly watched and didn't get a finale, Divergent. This film is well put together, exciting and was worth watching on the big screen.
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@ultramookie The one thing this film has going for it is a constant sense of moment and urgency.
The suspension was killing me! Good director!
Just as quickly as the show found its footing last week, it slips backwards this week. The show is much more interesting when it deals with the happenings in the real world rather than the virtual world. The person-of the week format isn’t working very well because the show can’t connect that person with the audience in 43 minutes. It would be better if the show could switch to a format where a character gets a multi-episode story arc, letting the audience connect.
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@ultramookie totally agree with you. Last week gave me hope that this show was finally going to get good but here we are.
Daman Wayans needs to go and retire. He is too distracting and makes each episode painful to watch. I actually like the new character Cole and I think the show would do great with just him. Or maybe partner him up with Bailey. Let Murtaugh retire, get Wayans off the show. It'll benefit the show greatly.
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@deplorableme Maybe in the beginning but these days? Not even close.
This week’s episode was better than the pilot, but that’s not saying much. I think the problem is that the person-of-the-week thing doesn’t fit well into a 43 minute show. This is especially since the shows format requires that the persons life be revealed slowly throughout the running time. There’s just not enough time for the audience to find anything to latch onto with the features character of the week.
This episode did start off with a fun vibe and then decended into a darker vibe. Which is unfortunate because I liked the first part of this episode.
I will give it a couple of more episodes because of Shahi. But, it’s not looking great at this point.
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I agree with you. I also see why NBC cut it from the Fall schedule and pushed it all the way to summer.
Plus they are already breaking their own world building rules. This week we’re told that Mara couldn’t know about this week’s character’s Reverie because of confidentiality. If that’s the case then how come they could tell her about the guy’s reverie, from the pilot, before she entered it?
This week’s episode was better than the pilot, but that’s not saying much. I think the problem is that the person-of-the-week thing doesn’t fit well into a 43 minute show. This is especially since the shows format requires that the persons life be revealed slowly throughout the running time. There’s just not enough time for the audience to find anything to latch onto with the features character of the week.
This episode did start off with a fun vibe and then decended into a darker vibe. Which is unfortunate because I liked the first part of this episode.
I will give it a couple of more episodes because of Shahi. But, it’s not looking great at this point.
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@jbaby_9783 I'm going to blame the pilot just being a pilot. They could have changed some of the world's rules after shooting the pilot but before getting a full series order and not gone back and done the necessary reshoots. (If they start messing with the world's rules more in following episodes, and contradict this new information from episode 2, that stops being an excuse)
How many times can cops in this precinct get taken hostage? Apparently a lot.
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@ultramookie it’s funny because I said before we started watching that 1 of the main characters will be robbed, shot or kidnapped, because that happens in every episode. This is because of very poor writing.
Nice touch with the intro song in Spanish :joy:. Of course it would have been nicer if the translation made any sense at all, but what can you expect from Hollywood... :person_shrugging_tone1:
On the other hand... kudos to James Roday, pretty decent pronunciation. Very carefulio :joy:
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@ajperez81 Jomes Roday is of Mexican descent. He speaks Spanish fluently.
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Oh well, my fears seem to come true.
This is basically just another Discovery: Written by people who never actually watched any Star Trek and got some bullet points like "Engage!", "Earl Grey", "Borg", "Vineyard" before force-fitting their generic Plot in their butchered version of the Star Trek universe.At no point in TNG were Cpt. Picard and Data anywhere near being friends, let alone best mates. Professional mutual respect, sure, but not friends.
But casting aside the usual idiocy regarding the incoherent techo bubble, logical errors and other stuff this series shares with Discovery,
theres one point in this episode where it became abundantly clear that this series will be as bad as its older sister: The flashback to mars.
These workers are sitting there, synthesizing their meals with a replicator. Something everyone who watched 1-2 episodes of Star Trek should be fairly familiar with.But these workers still all synthesize the same 21st century prison garbage on trays and bitch about the meals.
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@strel0k Data and Picard became good friends during the TNG movies. Screenrant has a detailed article on this subject.
Terrible show. I liked it at first but then the producers had back to back episodes that they went political and had major liberal bias. No thanks. They could have presented an idea and been less bias, but they didn’t. I have too many shows to watch. I don’t think this one in my life.
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@andreww88 Major liberal bias? I didn't see that.
What a let down,.. Season Finale was the pits!
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@alienmoon Season's slated for eleven eps. Next is Dec 16, winding up on Jan 27th
This is basically the same as the Mitchell’s vs the machines, which was far superior
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@abstractlegend what the movies are nothing alike
I wish they would follow the book, rather than buy the rights to the book, then throw it all away and just make up new stuff which is apparently what they have done.
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Naw, it wouldn’t make a good movie, jumping all over.
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Oh well, my fears seem to come true.
This is basically just another Discovery: Written by people who never actually watched any Star Trek and got some bullet points like "Engage!", "Earl Grey", "Borg", "Vineyard" before force-fitting their generic Plot in their butchered version of the Star Trek universe.At no point in TNG were Cpt. Picard and Data anywhere near being friends, let alone best mates. Professional mutual respect, sure, but not friends.
But casting aside the usual idiocy regarding the incoherent techo bubble, logical errors and other stuff this series shares with Discovery,
theres one point in this episode where it became abundantly clear that this series will be as bad as its older sister: The flashback to mars.
These workers are sitting there, synthesizing their meals with a replicator. Something everyone who watched 1-2 episodes of Star Trek should be fairly familiar with.But these workers still all synthesize the same 21st century prison garbage on trays and bitch about the meals.
There you go: Form over substance, I'm out. Let this series rot with Discovery, poor Patrick Stewart.loading replies
@strel0k Seems like you've never watched any of the films before starting the bleating. At least you're going, just don't come back and spare us from comments like this.
Wow, this movie had so much potential but in the end it fell well short. The huge plot hole for me was: how did the creature get back inside by going through a thruster bell/engine? The ISS uses a hydrazine compound as a propellant and it is extremely toxic. This would dictate that there is no way that the thruster bell/engine would be connected in any way to ISS internal atmosphere. If it was, the atmosphere would leak into space! There were other things wrong as well but this was the biggee for me.
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@heartman well, it's a magical space station where you can inadvertedly open the door from a presurized habitable module to another one where they vacuumed all the air out. Of course you can get inside through a thruster! :)
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Blind woman, who recently lost a baby, retreats to a cabin seeking catharsis, only to be stalked and raped; and everything goes wrong for six teenagers who wind up in her path of wrath.loading replies
dude I think u commented on the wrong movie :joy:
Shout by Detlef Schwanz
Oh well, my fears seem to come true.
This is basically just another Discovery: Written by people who never actually watched any Star Trek and got some bullet points like "Engage!", "Earl Grey", "Borg", "Vineyard" before force-fitting their generic Plot in their butchered version of the Star Trek universe.At no point in TNG were Cpt. Picard and Data anywhere near being friends, let alone best mates. Professional mutual respect, sure, but not friends.
But casting aside the usual idiocy regarding the incoherent techo bubble, logical errors and other stuff this series shares with Discovery,
theres one point in this episode where it became abundantly clear that this series will be as bad as its older sister: The flashback to mars.
These workers are sitting there, synthesizing their meals with a replicator. Something everyone who watched 1-2 episodes of Star Trek should be fairly familiar with.But these workers still all synthesize the same 21st century prison garbage on trays and bitch about the meals.
There you go: Form over substance, I'm out. Let this series rot with Discovery, poor Patrick Stewart.loading replies
@strel0k If TNG was released in 2020 you people would find ways to hate it. It's baffling
Shout by Detlef Schwanz
Oh well, my fears seem to come true.
This is basically just another Discovery: Written by people who never actually watched any Star Trek and got some bullet points like "Engage!", "Earl Grey", "Borg", "Vineyard" before force-fitting their generic Plot in their butchered version of the Star Trek universe.At no point in TNG were Cpt. Picard and Data anywhere near being friends, let alone best mates. Professional mutual respect, sure, but not friends.
But casting aside the usual idiocy regarding the incoherent techo bubble, logical errors and other stuff this series shares with Discovery,
theres one point in this episode where it became abundantly clear that this series will be as bad as its older sister: The flashback to mars.
These workers are sitting there, synthesizing their meals with a replicator. Something everyone who watched 1-2 episodes of Star Trek should be fairly familiar with.But these workers still all synthesize the same 21st century prison garbage on trays and bitch about the meals.
There you go: Form over substance, I'm out. Let this series rot with Discovery, poor Patrick Stewart.loading replies
@strel0k Pretty sure their relationship evolved to friendship in First Contact and Nemesis.
did a 5 year old write this episode? seriously, this was a really cringe episode and it didn't help that Captain Karen showed up
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@quasar1967 Party pooper! Party pooper!
Seriously? This junk really won awards? It's not even a movie. More like a crappy CGI test demo where nothing exciting happens the whole way through. The only thing I remember is Clooney trying to hit on Bullock. Fail.
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"...where nothing exciting happens the whole way through"
Did you lose consciousness during the movie?
This felt more like More WOKE, Virtue Signalling than our Science based Star Trek we've all come to love. Nevertheless, being a Sci-Fi fan, I tried to ignore the Virtue Signalling and relaxed into the episode, which felt it was based on Emotion and trying to make the Audience feel good,.... Then, BOOM, the Woke culture slapped me around the face again when Earths president walked off the shuttle and all I saw was Freaking !!!Stacey Abrams!!! and the whole WOKE Culture was thrown to the forefront of my mind.... Thanks for Ruining what could have been an awesome Star Trek!... I hope Strange New Worlds with Captain PIKE doesn't go down this road.
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Damn you trumpers just can’t stop crying about everything.
Stay triggered trumper.
Also, kiss my retired, actual combat veteran rear.
Move to Russia.
This felt more like More WOKE, Virtue Signalling than our Science based Star Trek we've all come to love. Nevertheless, being a Sci-Fi fan, I tried to ignore the Virtue Signalling and relaxed into the episode, which felt it was based on Emotion and trying to make the Audience feel good,.... Then, BOOM, the Woke culture slapped me around the face again when Earths president walked off the shuttle and all I saw was Freaking !!!Stacey Abrams!!! and the whole WOKE Culture was thrown to the forefront of my mind.... Thanks for Ruining what could have been an awesome Star Trek!... I hope Strange New Worlds with Captain PIKE doesn't go down this road.
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@alienmoon Yeah, I'm sick of all this newfound wokeness in Star Trek. For instance, I watched this episode from the 1960s where they had a white person and a black person kiss, and another from the same time period with these half-white half-black aliens where the whole thing is a big metaphor for racism being bad, and I'm like "Geeze, why you gotta throw this in my face?" What happened to the good old fashioned politics free Star Trek?
Why do we need another suicide squad movie?
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We didn’t, but it’s 100x better than the first
yes, please, no more Kwan storyline.
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@orphan next episode, soren go out to find kwan just to find her body with 20 bullets in it, madrigal will never be free and kwan storyline is over, yay
Quick observation, main character gets shot with phaser and gets a nice burn and minor hole. same phaser shoots bad guy and they disintegrate into red sparkles?
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@ultramookie Phasers were set to disintegrate human cells, the wounded person was not human so the effect was different. PS. I just made this up.
Don't make me come back inside you?? XD WTF??
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@winchesterz
Finlay said, "Don't make me come back and cite you, sir."
