Chirrut! K2! They're my new fave.
Definitely shocked me, wasn't expecting a great movie after being a bit disappointed with force awakens but this one was great, i know most hate the prequels but ive always thought they were pretty good, not great as yes they could have been soo much better given the subject at hand, that being said i wouldnt mind seeing a star wars movie set during the clone wars possibly, or another spot in star wars galaxy
We all miss Han Solo
Just to change things up a bit. I thought Force Awakens was a far better movie than this one.
Rogue One is terrible for plot, pacing and dialog for the whole first 2/3 (right until they hit Scarif) and then suddenly it seems like an entirely different movie. I'd give the first 2/3 a 4/10 and the last 1/3 10/10. The first 2/3 were so bad it reminded me of Suicide Squad but with the names of planets splashed on the screen instead of DC anti-heroes. Fortunately the last 1/3 was so good that it almost made up for it.
It was obvious to me that they made large changes to the script, and the only part of the movie that didn't get cut up was the last 1/3.
Of all the things they tried, K2SO's humor, family/emotional pathos, nods to the force, absolutely nothing lands in this movie except for a couple of transports. (If you hated that joke, suffice to say those in the movie are worse; actually, were they even jokes?)
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It's a fine movie, I guess. it starts kind of slow but eventually it picks up and ends in a wicked battle.
Acting/characters- Pretty good overall. Cassian was by far the best part of the movie, K-2SO was great, Jyn was decent (not the best or worst main character, but I liked her well enough) and the rest played their part just fine. The one big gripe I have was that they may have put too many characters into this condensed story, there wasn't proper time to get to fully appreciate the pilot or the soldier who acts as the Monk's guardian but it wasn't terrible in terms of that.
Setting- All very pretty areas, but they really needed to chill out and stop switching scenery so fast. It's impossible to get the full atmospheric experience when you only see each area for around 20 minutes. They could have easily found a way to narrow the amount of planets they visited to 3 or so.
Story- pretty straightforward plot, felt natural the entire time, people made decisions that made sense and it fit well into the greater story (as it needed to considering it was made to fill a blank spot)
Sound- standard star wars, didn't do anything particularly impressive but it worked fine
Action/effects- The director of this movie clearly made sure that every single part of this movie had some sort of action to keep the blood pumping. This is maybe the most action packed Star Wars movie there is, the only one I can think that even comes close is Episode III. Because of this emphasis on action they clearly also made an effort to make it all look really good. Also there are a couple bits where they had a CGI version of Young Leia and Tarkin which I thought would be really "uncanny valley" looking and irritating to the eyes but surprisingly they seem to have surpassed it and made practically photorealistic reproductions of their faces. Really wild to watch, they still don't exactly move like human skin but it's damn close.
Random bits I want to mention- While Darth Vader's scenes were both really good I think it would've been much more powerful if he didn't have the first one where he talks to the commander and instead solely showed up as a surprise whilst boarding the rebel ships and tearing apart their soldiers
-Forest Whitaker did an absolutely awful job in this movie. I don't know what the fuck he was smoking while filming but I DON'T want some, he looked like an idiot. I wanted to separate this from the acting because it was an outlying part of it, but it needed to be mentioned.
-It's shallow, really shallow. Star Wars isn't known for depth and has outright been criticized when experimenting with it in the prequels and this movie take little to no risk. It's a very safe movie that everyone will enjoy but it never even reached for greatness.
-The ending is really good, by far the riskiest part of the whole shebang. It knows it is a self contained story and utilizes it's final 30 or so minutes to make the most out of the time it has.
The creators of Star Wars has found a way to keep us all wanting more. I finished watching Rogue One and I was ready to watch it again or just simply watch every movie again. I am that excited.
At first I wasn't really sure about it all. Seeing that everybody told me it's a whole different story from the "normal" Star Wars movies (I highly disagree there because it literally fits perfect between film 3 and 4) and I didn't know how to feel about Felicity Jones as Jyn Erso (I know, it's bitching about something not worth bitching about, but I did it anyway). I think getting the right actor for the role is so imported. It could make or break a movie. I had my doubts about Felicity but I'm taking them all back because she was so so good. Her looks fitted in perfectly. Although I do feel like once she started talking the amount of "cool" dropped a bit, perhaps because her accent is so perfect, but I don't know. I felt like it just didn't really fit once she started talking. (I'm sorry)
I always like it when I watch a real cool movie with tons of actors I don't know. I didn't really know Diego Luna, Donnie Yen, Wen Jiang or Ben Mendelsohn before Rogue One. I'm sure not to forget them now because they were all great. I liked Mads Mikkelsen as well because he is one of my favorite actors and he is amazing, that's all. (Also, small shoutout to Forest Whitaker for being cool). I enjoyed the camera work as well. It was all beautifully filmed and in the beginning there were a lot of shot containing the environment and not only the actors. That gives a lot of breathing space and I think is a great way to build up the movie towards the action filled parts.
Rogue One did a great job at telling its story, with beautiful camerawork and great actors. It got me all hyped up about the Star Wars universe again and I can't wait to see more.
At first I thought this movie was going to be all about "original trilogy", but this movie actually explains some plot from the original movies for the fans who only watch the movies. I love the reference about hope and the final scene with Darth Vadar and Princess Leia as the beginning of A New Hope.This is not like a remake of any Star Wars movie, this is more than that. It tells the story of all rebellions and their sacrifices which is really really touching to me. This movie did an excellent job to have the old material(C-3PO, R2-D2 and so on) and the new ones. Anyone can understand this movie.
And Darth Vadar scene is incredible.
Similar plot twists of the other films of the saga. Nevertheless this is better than I thought, good characters, great action and incredible final scene with Darth Vader
The Vader scene was freaking amazing <3
First of all, I'd like to say that Rogue One does an admirable job of slotting itself onto the wider context of the Star Wars universe and its story is pretty solid and definitely engaging.
However while the plot and action sequences in this film were good there was very little in the way of character development and in my opinion this is where the film falls down. On the whole the characters were very likable and interesting but unfortunately (and ironically considering I watched it in 3D) they were also pretty two-dimensional. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if there were going to be more films in which to develop the characters but considering they all die at the end that seems unlikely.
I have to admit, I've never been a huge fan of war movies, so perhaps I'm just not the intended audience for this film. But as a lover of Star Wars and someone who places a strong value on characterization, I have to say I was a little disappointed. As I said, there was a strong plot and some amazing action sequences but the film was also oddly paced at times and personally I don't think Felicity Jones was a particularly strong or compelling lead. While the rest of the cast were able to bring their characters to life despite very little to work with, I feel that Jones failed to do this and so I never really warmed to her character.
All that said I very much appreciate the racial diversity of the cast; it's very unusual to see a Hollywood blockbuster where the main cast consists almost entirely of people of colour and I'm hoping it's demonstrating a move towards more diversity in the film industry (I can only hope that the next Star Wars film will feature some WOMEN of colour in the main cast as well!)
Unless you're into explosion heavy action films like... any current Hollywood production... this can be skipped. Gareth Edwards certainly can shoot large scale action decent but whoever handed him the script had little regard for much else. While it's understandable that they didn't want to put their "best" characters into this they could have at least bothered with a bit more story than what uninspiring Felicity Jones is supposed to deliver (her childhood arc isn't even remotely adding anything to it but a "hey it's drama dude"). But it isn't just the characters like the autistic mode K-2SO, the plot isn't very engaging either and has lots of dumb shit in it. I also find it ridiculous that this is supposed to be a standalone entry into the franchise... the things most people are liking in it are the fanservice that would just confuse the hell out of anyone unfamiliar with Star Wars. Just embrace the "standalone" instead of adding in CG characters of previous movies to it and do something different than X-Wings, Tie Fighers and Storm Troopers otherwise I really hope that everyone stops handing over money to Disney after maybe the 20thiest installment.
Fast, action movie with secondary plot without deeper thoughts from the main saga. But it is Star Wars film so as for now - must see! :)
Not as brilliant as "The force awakens", bit still great and so much better than a lot of people feared when only a year has passed since the last Star Wars movie was out.
I think the newly introduced characters are not as great as the ones from the original films (but since a lot of them died during the film, they may be thought they shouldn't create characters that the audience loves and therefore is severely disappointed when the die, but still much better than ones featuring in "of the rack" action flicks.
The scenery was great and I thought the beautiful planet of Scarif a nice touch and good contrast to the mostly grim planets depicted in star wars movies! What I missed was a great new type of star ship, but that's not that crucial.
Plot-wise it fits perfectly between Episode III and IV and features (as always) a lot of action! I really enjoyed it and look very much forward to the next Star Wars movie: keep up the good work, Disney!!!
Boring is the word that comes in mind when you think about this movie.
Characters are inconsistent, the story is full of holes and sometimes it seems like things are going onward randomly.
Star Wars franchise is truly down the gutter, minding only their special effects and their fan services.
Let's face it SW aficionados, is not the onscreen appearance of some bootleg Darth Vader that can reignite the dead fires of this script.
4 only because the action scenes and the robot character were somewhat enjoyable in this one.
Started off quite slow, but got really good after she got the message from her father.
Rogue One was okay. Definitely better than The Force(d) Awakens. But it doesn't have the necessary kick it should have had. 2/3 of the film is just Jyn Erso wandering around. The real film starts at the last 1/3 part of the film.
Despite having the Rogue One team as the center of the film, there is no Rogue One team. There is only a bunch of ragtags with a noble mission.
Let's start with Jyn Erso. Jyn, the reluctant heroine, was initially uninterested in being involved with the whole Rebellion vs Empire conflict. But after a life-changing event involving her father, only there she started to be engaged. The problem is: this happened too early. Just a moment after her newfound spirit, there is another moment that should have kickstarted Jyn. Something involving her mentor, Saw Gerrera. But instead having that point as the driving force, the writer chose to uplift the mood too early. Leaving us with spirited Jyn, dispirited Jyn, and then spirited again.
Also, the trademark quip you see in the trailer, "I rebel," actually got cut off in the final release. So the rebellious Jyn presented in the trailer is actually not that rebellious in the film. This is one of the problem with character development in the film: we don't get to see how Jyn react with her surrounding. We don't get to know who she actually was, her relationship with her mentor. There is implied that something serious is going on between the two but we don't get to see why she should be emotionally attached to him (or her father, even).
The problem with this character development also happen for the long duration of the film: how the characters bond with each other. Yeah, in the long course of the adventures of Rogue One, we don't actually see them working as a team. There are only Jyn and Cassian and K-2SO, the Force fanboys duo Chirrut and Baze, and the unfortunate ex-Imperial pilot Bodhi Rook stuck in this ragtag group. Oh and a few of Cassian's men, who we hardly knew. Despite having them wandering around together for 85 minutes, the film doesn't give them enough screen time to work as a team. Instead we only see Cassian working with K-2SO as a part of rebellion, Jyn acting as reluctant heroine, Chirrut and Baze as remnants of the ancient Force order, and Bodhi who has no choice but to chauffeur them to their desired places. And a bunch of Cassian's men joining the bandwagon at later times.
So, unlike the solid team we see in Star Wars The Force Unleashed (the game), or maybe other Disney-published film Guardians of the Galaxy, we see here a dysfunctional team who just happen to band together. They are willing to die for a cause, but it's unclear how willing they are to protect each other's back. Yes - because in the course of the movie they only act for the friends they already know. Baze only for Chirrut (and vice-versa), Jyn for Cassain/K-2SO (and vice-versa), and poor guy Bodhi being a lackey because he has no one he knows. When anything goes bad in the team, we don't see them losing as a team - only as individuals.
Speaking of characters, the film also has some unnecessary drama and characters taking dumb decision. The film starts with a really unnecessary death which can be prevented. The same goes with Saw Gerrera. This potential character, derived from the older Expanded Universe saga, is not utilized in full effect. Despite portrayed as important, he remained in the background almost in the whole time, with no air of mystery at all. We hardly knew him.
Felicity Jones acting as Jyn Erso is a bit jarring. She is a better written character compared to Rei in Force(d) Awakens, but Jones don't seem to act her properly. In some sequences she seem to behave awkwardly, like being uncomfortable at the scene. Then just a moment later, she became high and mighty.
In universe, the film also has several weird take on the Star Wars canon. First is Chirrut's constant praying to the Force. No one prayed to the Force before. Force is not Jesus, you don't pray to Him. Lucas' inspiration of the Force was Eastern esoteric religion - it's some sort of energy that surrounds us. Having someone praying to the Force is a very monotheistic approach to the concept of religion.
Another weirdness is the jumping to the hyperspace plot device. Like in The Force(d) Awakens, jumping to hyperspace is utilized as a too convenient deus ex machina: it can be done while in atmosphere. In Star Wars canon (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) you can only jump while in the orbit. The lack of security in Imperial-occupied planets also look very jarring. How can rebel ships slip into the planets that easily?
Despite all that, the last 1/3 part of the film is exciting, albeit using some cliched plot device (romance, main goal being sidelined by petty challenges). The space battle is fine. X-Wing and Y-Wing are utilized properly as fighter and bomber (not otherwise). The tactic with Hammerhead-class cruiser is, while ridiculous, still more satisfying than the one-fighter-destroy-one-SSD-by-crashing in Eps IV. Also the cameo of characters like Tarkin is pleasing to EU fans. The only weird part is the directors and governor addressing Vader as "Lord"--didn't they see them as a peer in Eps IV, by calling him simply as "Darth"?
All in all, not bad, but not that good either. As for the weird tone in first 2/3 of the film, I suspect there is Disney's part in here. Them ordering reshoot to make it more "fun and light-hearted".
Of the entire series, I'd say its a solid 3rd quality and entertainment wise which was a wonderful surprise.
wish i walked in 2 hours later, would have missed nothing.. seems like disney has begun milking the saga
If only all the other Star Wars movies were as good as this one. For me this even beats the original 4-6 trilogy.
While all other movies try to mix a bit of everything (drama, fairy-tales, humor, action, politics etc), this one is dedicated to those who prefer a more darker and realistic approach. The plot is full of really brave decisions and gives you almost no hints on how the movie will progress. The characters are really interesting and likable.
Unlinke 1-3, all technology and CGI fits in perfectly with 4-7.
If you loved games like X-Wing, Tie-Fighter etc. you must watch this. If not, go watch it anyway.
for me a clear 10/10
I see now that Star Wars is too incestuious to survive. The non-stop references in this movie we distracting and off-putting. I'd always be thinking about how it makes sense to see that thing there, or why they just said that line.
The overall story and new characters were good, but at this rate all Star Wars movies are just going to constant nostalgia bait for how good the orig trig was. This was meant to be the risky break away one too.
Who know that Jimmy Smits would be the best thing to come out of the prequels.
As a star wars fan am pleased. Totally delivered on the dark nature of the story and the tie into the rest of the Star Wars Universe got me 'geekying out' like a ten year old. Need to do this again!!
Tremendously better than "the force awakens"
Its not that i didn't enjoy it i like it but not that much. K-2S0 was the best thing of the movie with some genius comic relief. The characters where good develop, the dialog could be better and the use of the word "force" could be less. I enjoy the ending with the dying of the main characters and not a simple cliche rescue, the CGI of princess leia gave a good tone
7.0/10. A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are the sacred texts of the Star Wars universe. Every story and every piece of the universe that has emerged in the wake of those first three films – sequels, prequels, midquels, comics, T.V. shows, video games, trading cards, action figures, and commemorative plates – are indebted to the franchise’s holy trinity. Each of them, no matter what claim to originality or expansion they may make, echoes, references, or “rhymes” with those instigating incidents. For as wide and wooly as the famed distant galaxy has become over the years, the creators and collaborators behind Star Wars are forever filling in the gaps left by those all-important lodestones of the franchise.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is the peak of this gap-filling mentality brought to bear. It is inexorably tied to the original Star Wars, taking great pains to connect the events of the film to those of its hallowed predecessor, even when it gets in the way of telling Rogue One’s own story. In that way, it feels closer to pandering than to a novel extension of the Star Wars universe, like a film desperate to remind you what comes next in the story, without regard for whether any of the harbingers it presents truly add anything to the story we already know.
It’s a shame, because beneath the frantic attempts to show the audience where the film fits into the franchise’s timeline is a solid if unspectacular standalone tale. Rogue One tells the story of the assorted individuals responsible for stealing the plans for the Death Star, and taken apart from the ways in which that narrative is relegated to being mere setup for what’s to come, it’s an interesting, hardscrabble slice of the larger Star Wars story.
For all its strengths, so much of Star Wars inevitably comes down to two warring factions: the Rebels and the Empire, the Republic and the Separatists, the Jedi and the Sith. What makes Rogue One unique is its focus on those who are outside of that dichotomy and its inescapable conflicts. Most of the individuals we meet are ready to buck up against the Empire when it suits them, but not so eager to thumb their noses at this overwhelming force in pursuit of truth, justice, and the midi-chlorian way.
There’s merit in that tack. The problem is that the film stumbles considerably in telling these people’s story, or any sort of complete story for that matter. Rogue One is less a full and robust narrative – one that, ideally, builds and progresses and culminates at the right time – than it is a mere series of moments which bear only a mild relation to one another. Some of those moments are cool. A handful of them are even thrilling. But they don’t amount to something cohesive and complete, and the film suffers for it.
The effort’s also hampered by the uninspiring qualities of the film’s major characters. Jyn Erso (Felicity Jones), Rogue One’s protagonist, is mostly a cipher, whose informed attributes overwhelm any actual personality from the character. We learn her backstory – she’s a de facto orphan (why is it always orphans in Star Wars?); she has abandonment issues that have driven her to apathy; and she’s a survivor – but her emotional journey in the film is underdeveloped and Jones fails to breathe enough life into the role to overcome that fact.
Jyn reconnects, however briefly or ephemerally, with those she lost, and seems to learn something about a commitment and a love that transcends separation or apparent abandonment. But the connection between that mild revelation and her sudden commitment to the greater good is thin at best, and mostly serves as light texture for the major fireworks at the end of the film. It keeps Rogue One playing from behind from the beginning.
The same goes for other lead in the film, Cassian Andor (Diego Luna), a hardened Rebel fighter. As written, Andor should be an interesting character, occupying a moral gray area that’s rare in this universe. In contrast to the purity exhibited by the members of the Rebel Alliance in A New Hope, Cassian is not above killing allies and bystanders when it suits his purposes. Early in the film, he blows away an informant who grows too panicky, as it was for his scruffy cinematic predecessor, the character’s introduction leaves no ambiguity as to who shot first.
But Luna gives a flat performance as Andor, to the point that the character comes off as a lifeless drone, lurching about simply to move the narrative along, but only feigning some deeper emotional drive. This type of performance can work for this type of character, who’s seen too much and grown detached and jaded. But Rogue One never really does the heavy lifting to sell his story in a way that makes this characterization meaningful.
Which makes the side characters the only genuinely compelling personalities in the film. Chief among these are Chirrut Îmwe (Donnie Yen) and Baze Malbus (Wen Jiang), a pair of force-worshipping monks, and K-2SO (Alan Tudyk) a reprogrammed imperial droid with a dry wit.
The former make for a particularly interesting pair. Îmwe makes an impression as a blind but true believer, who trusts in the force and demonstrates the strength of that belief in his effective use of a bow and in his acts of faith. Baze compliments his partner well as the lapsed adherent who’s quick with a futuristic chain gun. He’s a reluctant combatant, but a protective friend. And K2 is practically the exclusive source of the film’s humor, providing unexpected bits of heart as well. It may be the character quirks or the performances, but these individuals stand out as the only new personalities involved to make the audience invest in the results of this little escapade.
Nearly everyone else, from Saw Gerrera (Forest Whitaker, making some deliberate but odd choices in his performance) to Galen Ersa (Mads Mikkelsen who, for the second time this summer, elevates the shallow material his character receives) is lost in a sea of heavily underlined cameos and ham-fisted hints at what comes next.
CAUTION: The remainder of this review contains significant spoilers for Rogue One.
While it’s fun (if contrived) to see minor characters like Ponda Baba and Evazan pop up here and there, Rogue One is awash in nigh-pointless appearances from better known characters. C-3PO and R2-D2 pop up for a moment to deliver a quick dose of their usual banter. A scene with Darth Vader and the film’s antagonist, Director Krennic, serves little purpose beyond allowing the Sith Lord to show off his standard parlor trick and deliver a corny pun. Bail Organa (the only significant presence from the Prequels), also appears in order to participate in awkwardly-worded exchanges about Obi Wan Kenobi. Of all these cameos, only Grand Moff Tarkin (an impressively compu-revivified Peter Cushing) feels at all significant to the plot of this film and not just some sop to fans hoping to see their old favorites.
So the film putters along through clumsy exposition-ridden exchanges; stolid, eye roll-worthy scenes; and convenient but uninspiring developments. Little of it descends to the level of being outright bad. Everything is competent. Almost everyone has a clear motivation. *Rogue One * just offers little reason to be invested in any of it.
Then, however, comes the finale. It’s an epic battle that spans three settings – a raucous dogfight in space, a guerilla-esque battle on the ground, and a race against time to recover the death star plans inside an empire facility – and the film picks up considerably once it hits. In fact, that last gasp of the film, its extraordinary race to the finish, nearly justifies all the stumbles and flaws on the way to that point. There is a vibrancy and an urgency to the rigors of war, the thrill of the fight, and the weight of the sacrifice in the film’s final frame that is all but missing in the first two-thirds of the movie.
Those orbital dogfights live up to the best in the franchise’s history. While far busier than the famous run on the Death Star in A New Hope and more varied than the fight in Return of the Jedi, the interplanetary combat portion of Rogue One brings creativity and visual flair to the fore. The “hammerhead corvette” move to ram one star destroyer into another is not only a stunning image in and of itself, but represents the sort of desperation and lateral thinking that gives the Rebel Alliance a legitimate chance to overthrow the adversaries who’ll otherwise overwhelm and outmatch them.
Similarly, the efforts on the ground among the former monks and defecting imperial pilot Bodhi Rook (Riz Ahmed, who is fine but, again, feels underdeveloped and lacking in personality relative to his robotic and Jedi Temple-defending counterparts) against the invading stormtrooper army are unique among Star Wars action sequences. The beachside setting alone makes the battle feel distinct from any others in the franchise.
And it’s in that setting that Rogue One starts to feel like a war movie in a way that no other Star Wars film has. The images of the troopers storming the beaches, of firefights back and forth and explosions happening all around, create a visceral sense of the struggle here, in a film more committed to the realities and casualties of conflict than the high space fantasy of the original trilogy.
But, as with the rest of the film, the part focusing on Jyn and Cassian is the weakest facet of the finale. Their effort to obtain the Death Star plans amounts to a souped-up take on the claw machine and devolves into a standard cat and mouse game that lacks the immediacy or excitement of the other two elements of the battle. But even that segment of the film’s climax is saved by a cohesiveness and common purpose among the three distinct battle zones that makes each individual fight feel a part of the larger struggle.
In contrast to even George Lucas’s films, Rogue One does a superior job at weaving the various conflicts in the film’s climax into one unified whole. The quest to transmit the Death Star plans involves combatants at all levels. K2 seals the doors and holds off stormtroopers. Jyn and Cassian nab the data tapes and upload them to the Empire’s transmitter. Bodhi connects the comms-line; the monks throw the master switch, and the spaceships in the sky break the Empire’s big honkin’ shield, thereby allowing the transmission through. Everyone has a part to play, with a clear progression in how their actions impact the larger goal, creating a sense of place that’s missing elsewhere, in the film and occasionally in the franchise writ large.
But it’s what happens next that offers Rogue One’s boldest stroke, and which also shows its limitations as a spinoff. Rogue One is the first Star Wars anthology film, the first movie set in this universe not to be a part of the larger saga, not to carry an episode designation, and not to focus on the Skywalkers and their assorted offspring and hangers on. That gives it a unique opportunity to take stories in this expansive and wide open universe and tell them without the larger world- and franchise-building constraints that come with the main saga.
Rogue One takes that opportunity to do something that the other films in the Star Wars franchise wouldn’t, and in many cases couldn’t do – kill off the entire cast. It is a gutsy move, but one done artfully. One-by-one, every major character receives their moment in the sun, to engage is some act of valor or defiance in pursuit of the larger goal, and then to pay the ultimate price in it. These scenes are the most heart-rending in the film, and the ones that feed into the larger theme of Rogue One more than any other – the idea that smaller, harsher, and more personal sacrifices made the epic space opera of A New Hope and its successors possible. There is a power in the way that this film follows through on the stakes it lays out; in the way it embraces the hardship and devastation that had to happen for Luke’s triumphant moment to happen; in the way it closes with Jyn and Cassian, locked in a Watchmen-esque embrace, in the face of annihilation.
And that’s really where the film should have ended, with our heroes having achieved their goal but suffering the mortal consequences of doing so. It’s admittedly a bit of a down note, but also an equally triumphant one, where yes, people suffer for their cause, but also advance it in an immeasurable way in the process. Instead, Rogue One bends over backwards to tie the ending of this film to the beginning of Episode IV, messing with the pacing and punch of its closing parry in the process.
In fairness, the ensuing scene where Darth Vader remorselessly slays a room full of rebels, all of them powerless to resist and trying desperately to send the data tapes on, is the coolest and most menacing the character has looked on the silver screen since The Empire Strikes Back. There’s an awe-inspiring combination of ruthlessness and effortlessness in the way Vader attacks them, that comes through in the way this tremendous sequence is choreographed, shot, and edited.
The film’s actual closing scene is more of a misstep, with an unnervingly CGI’d young Princess Leia painfully underlining the film’s mantra in a strained attempt to end a dark movie on a positive note. In contrast to the aged Tarkin, whose weathered face hides some of the seams of the computerized facelift, Leia quickly drifts into the uncanny valley, already getting a clunky scene off on the wrong foot.
But that issue aside, her appearance still amounts to another pandering cameo, which speaks more to the other films in the series than this one. And to boot, it features another cheesy line about “hope” in a script that couldn’t be more obvious about sending that message if Director Gareth Edwards personally elbowed each audience-member in the side every time the word was used. It speaks into the ways in which Rogue One is constantly tying itself to what came before and what comes next, rather than Edwards and the creative team allowing the movie to stand on its own.
And to be fair, some of the justifications I offered for The Force Awakens’s familiarity – a point that’s been held against the film since its release – apply here as well. Rogue One is trying something brand new – a spinoff that is not a direct part of the continuing Star Wars * saga. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy and the powers that be at Disney and Lucasfilm felt that when wading into such uncharted waters, they needed to tie *Rogue One explicitly and loudly into the main story that even the most casual of casual moviegoers would be familiar with. That way, the film not only works as a recognizable introduction into this brave new world of spinoffs and side stories, but those shout outs also help to demonstrate that these films are still “real Star Wars,” as present and vital to the franchise as any movie fronted by a Jedi.
But these anthology films are also a chance for the cinematic side of the Star Wars franchise to do what its televised counterparts, The Clone Wars and Rebels have done – use this familiar backdrop to tell different types of stories, to explore characters and settings in ways that would otherwise clash with the spirit of the main saga, and to find corners of the Star Wars universe that are not beholden to the adventures of the Skywalker family or the story that started it all.
The core of these aspirations is present in Rogue One, with unique elements and bold choices that stand to distinguish this first anthology film from its episodic brethren. But too often, the film gives into fanservice, or shoehorned inter-film connections, or familiar beats, that make the movie feel more like Episode III and ½ than its own Star Wars story.
The galaxy described in that famous opening crawl stretches far and wide. Rogue One presents a number of very cool moments within that galaxy – waterside warfare, bow-ridden grace, and merciless Sith brutality – but they never transcend being mere disconnected moments outside of the film’s high-intensity third act. So often Rogue One is simply filling in the gaps of the story already told in that galaxy, rather than expanding it. The result is a missed opportunity and a film that, for all its merits, could have been, and almost was, so much more than a pitstop on the way from revenge to hope.
Well, I saw it at last, and it was an utterly disappointing experience. Rogue One is a disjointed film with almost no real plot, badly drawn characters and tons of fan service. The first half hour is so jammed that it feels like a trailer, while the rest of the film is lacking character development. It really shows the places where the film was pierced together on re-shoots, as those are the moments of "fun" or when everything slows down with pointless exposition. I didn't see anything from the teasers and trailers on the finished film (where is "isn't this is a rebellion... I rebel", Forest Whitaker's speech or the many, many battle scenes on the ground?). The main character was so flimsy and flip-flopping on her resolution and motivation that I couldn't care any less about her by the end, even when they made a point negating any chance of a sequel. I gave it the benefit of the doubt after my lousy experience with The Force Awakens, but as for me right now, Star Wars ended on the Endor celebration. I'm not paying for nostalgia anymore.
I like it 'cause everyone dies.
I really enjoyed this movie.
I liked the characters. It was easy to like them. They did some good performance.
Darth Vader scene was intense.
Great movie.
Rogue One!!! Excelente película!!!
"The Force is with me and I am one with the Force."
Chirrut and Baze were my favorites. This film made me think i want more stand alone films then a continuation of Episodes. As someone who has only jumped on to the Star Wars franchise over the past year, watching all the films over the past few months..this has to be my favorite next to the original film and what a fitting place. I can't wait to re-watch it back to back.
It most definitely made up for the Force Awakens which as a new viewer almost put me off. People more informed in film might be able to pin point what Rogue One has done better. That last battle to get the plans, i couldn't blink. Both the space and ground combat really conveyed how desperate the Rebels were.
The C3PO and R2D2 cameo took me out of the film for a moment but the rest of the film felt seamless and pulled me right in. I would of liked to have seen more of the relationship between Jyn and Saw but i am sure novels and television will take that on for us (or already have). So many emotions in those 2 and so hours and i can't wait to watch again, at the theater! Perfect cinema experience and worth the outing. By the way, what an ending! Vader never looked so dominant.
I wasn't sure what I'd think going in. Already knew how it would end...spoiler alert they get the plans. However everything about this movie was awesome. I wanted to stand up and cheer for the heroes of the movie, the action scenes were incredible, the cinematography was amazing and the scene near the end with Vader was awesome. I'd give it a million likes if I could. Going back after Christmas to see it again with my daughters. They aren't big Star Wars fans but I know they'll love it. Besides can't help but show them another movie with a kick ass female in it.
Not as amazing as everyone said. Lack of character development to really care about Jyn and his friends. Some appeareances truly anecdotic (Forest Withaker is an example) and the rest of it is outstanding, special effects and all that.
I liked, as they carry the film, the cameos, tributes, although the end is already known by episode 4, you see how they do
A great story without the "whining-ness" that is the Skywalker-gene (prequel Anakin, current Kylo Ren). It was weird seeing a Jedi not using force push or a lightsaber. Now for some spoilers: Darth Vader was brutal, Leia has an appearance, Darksaber is mentioned, and all the main characters -- even the droid -- sacrifice themselves for the cause. It did feel weird not a seeing an intro scroll at the beginning, like every other SW movie, but it was nice seeing completely new characters, not related to the original movie's characters, with their own background and desires. Suffice to say, it dragged somewhat, but you won't be disappointed by the ending.
Just to preface this, I thought A Force Awakens was emotionless trash that undermined the entire purpose of the original three films.
Rogue One was the opposite.
The best thing about this movie was the emotional impact. It underlined the sacrifices made to make the original trilogy possible. Some people have called it long, but that helped build up characters that you actually felt for, and who weren't carbon copy ripoffs (cough cough A Force Awakens). The final scenes as the two main characters face their fate, recognizing that it was worth it, gave such a high emotional payoff. Each major death scene actually made you feel something.
The second best thing was K-2SO. Very funny, and much needed comedic (but not goofy) relief.
The CGI for landscapes and the world creation was outstanding. When I see a movie like Star Wars I want to be amazed and see things that I haven't seen done before. I want to be impressed and drawn into new, beautifully crafted worlds. In this respect, the movie just kept delivering over and over.
The cinematography was great during the action sequences. The sequences looked epic, and the violence and sacrifice felt meaningful. The Vader fight sequence was intense.
It also had interesting ties to current events with its commentary on terrorism/rebellion/weapons of mass destruction. By the way, the science genius character realizing that he isn't priceless in developing some major device is fantastic. All of the movies with "only so-and-so can figure this out" are very disappointing.
The moral message of the movie was also very clear and well delivered.
I really enjoyed the movie overall and thought that it was a big step in the right direction. It was adventurous again, it was sometimes shocking, original, and most of all meaningful. A Force Awakens failed on all of those points. It's good to see a franchise movie that's taking a bit more risk than average. AFA was just like the new Star Trek films, shiny bling low-impact action movies that just happen to be set in space. Rogue One pushes far beyond to show the what drives the Rebellion in a world we know and love.
Despite the fact that I really liked the movie, it had some flaws:
- Tarkin face CGI
- Some of the acting in the first half.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Some of the cuts were really weird and the pacing felt off for portions of the first half.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Forest Whittaker just deciding to die instead of trying to escape.
- Tarkin face CGI
- A few unbelievable plot lines (thankfully most were minor). Like Cassian being sent to kill Galen for almost no reason, and then deciding not to for no reason, and then Jyn forgiving him surprisingly easily. How did she even know that he was trying to kill her father?
- Tarkin face CGI
- Does every Star Wars movie need to have a father character die? Why didn't Cass follow orders when he heartlessly killed someone else in his first scene?
- Tarkin face CGI
- Heavy handed political messaging.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Said "hope" too many times.
- Tarkin face CGI
- You can just push Star Destroyers that easily?
- Tarkin face CGI
- The word "Stardust"
- Tarkin face CGI
- Too many random worlds introduced that you don't have the time to get invested in.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Too much awkward fan service.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Darth Vader's voice sounded off.
- Tarkin face CGI
- Some of the dialogue was really terrible.
- Tarkin face CGI
OMG OMG god damn amazing!!!!!!....Gareth Edwards is a incredible director and took Star Wars too the top again, this film was just amazing
Walked in with high expectations and this movie hit it dead on. Though the beginning was a little sporadic the rest of the movie lived up to what it was meant to be "a Star Wars story". Worth the watch.
Rogue One is a welcome addition to the Star Wars universe with a perfect balance of classic characters and new ones. Rogue One did essentially everything I wanted it to do. Gareth Edwards and the whole cast need a round of applause. It also remains a pretty ballsy move by Disney as this movie may not be as universally appealing as the other films in the franchise.
The Empire is making a thing called the Death Star that can blow up planets. Boom, I hit you with a spoiler there. If you don't want other spoilers, stop reading and go watch it.
So this is what I wanted last year. Here is a very distinct, original story. Of course, we know where it is going, but the way we get there isn't just one of the movies redone. This is a big deal, and hopefully it will continue this way with the majority of the future films in this franchise.
Starting off, I really like the entire cast. Big roles to small roles, all were very entertaining. The only downside in my book was seeing Mads Mikkelsen get too little screen time. I wish he had made it to the final battle to kill people. And eat them? Out of character, but I'd have been fine with it.
There were, however, two people in this that really made me happy. First, our new droid K-2SO is so entertaining. I don't always love comedy relief in movies like this, but he wasn't there just to be a joke. His character actually had an arc. I genuinely felt sad when he got gunned down in the end, more so than any other character who died (like, everyone).
Second, I love Tarkin. Not just in this, but in everything. He is such an awesome character; the general who can even chastise Vader. I like that he is a calm and level headed evil Hitler guy. Peter Cushing just stepped into that role and owned scenes in A New Hope. So, I'm very happy seeing him post death in this one. Enough to not care about the CGI face. Can I tell it isn't real? Obviously. Does it bother me? Not in the slightest. This is how we resurrect great actors. You hear me Peter O'Toole? I want a Lawrence of America spinoff.
Action scenes in this are a lot of fun. We are going back to cool ground and airfare fights at the same time. That opening ISIS fight is pretty cool, but the big deal is obviously the finale. They use each team character pretty well, and they kill them each in a fun way. The X-Wings also get us back in that classic "Red Something checking in" vibe. Yet, the way the fight has to go down is certainly different. Zooming into the blue shield thingy around the planet is a fun way to explode people.
Unfortunately, the film is not without flaws. I almost think the main things I have issues with are due to the studio reshoots though. They do way too many "call backs" to other films. Do C3PO and R2-D2 really need to make an appearance? Or, specifically, do they need a full shot of them? They could just walk past or something, and do the same job without looking so hokey. There are a few more of these, some more apparent than others, and I think it just keeps the movie from being more of a quality film.
Of all of those though, The one thing that stands out to me is Vader. I get it, they put him in to bring in the cash. As a business move, makes sense. But can you imagine not expecting him in it at all? Then right at the end of the film you see his saber pop out of that smoke while he boards the ship to flow into A New Hope? Instead we hear old man James Earl Jones voice him for a weird convo that doesn't need to happen at all in the middle of the movie.
Finally, I do need to point out that the soundtrack to this is pretty damn fantastic. Giacchinno matches the Star Wars style perfectly, but makes it a bit distinct at the same time. I've already listened through the soundtrack 3 times in the past 2 days, and I'm enjoying it more and more. This is clearly his test to take over the main films when John Williams stops. He's already filled the shoes on Jurassic Park, so I genuinely think he's the child of John Williams.
All in all, this is one of the best films in the franchise. Here is my ranking list below:
Current Star Wars Rankings:
The Empire Strikes Back 5
Star Wars 5
Rogue One 4.5
Return of the Jedi 4
Revenge of the Sith 3
Force Awakens 3
Attack of the Clones 1.5
The Phantom Menace 1
By far the best prequel of a film franchise i've ever seen... has prequels go.. the force is strong in this one... that really does live up to the 4th, 5th, 6th... to the sound tracks, to the effects, the picture, the one liners, and the cast.. unbelievable... it's great to be alive!
The non Skywalker Star Wars we've been waiting for.
I walked in excited and walked out a smile that I couldn't wipe off my face!
Rogue One was a story almost developed to perfection, at every point your on the edge of your seat and can't help but feel invested in the story. And the Vader scene was epic in of itself, just made me tingle.
The amazing cinematography, fantastic scenes, and a final act that made this an Epic movie, and a must watch for every person, Star Wars fans and others shouldn't miss it.
On par with Empire Strikes back and probably one of the best movies of 2016.
We want more!
It was epic, I left with that buzz of excitement that only Star Wars can offer.
It fits in very well with the rest of the film's and really enhances the full story. Just wanted to get back and watch A New Hope as soon as I got home.
My only concern is that because it was good it will just open the flood gates, and for the next 10 years we'll get an overload of "additional" film's. I don't want it to become what Marvel has, who seem to just be churning out film's, some are good some are bad, they're just playing the odds.
Lucasfilm should focus on good solid film's only, as a fan I am willing to wait a few years between to really get the best films.
The end with Vader, just absolutely epic, brings back that unmistakable feeling I had as a child watching the originals, he is so damn badass. For the whole thing I was trying to work out where this film fits, I knew it fell between "Revenge" and "Hope" but I do like that it is near immediately before "Hope", really makes a New Hope more dramatic
Thoroughly enjoyed it, start to finish. They did an excellent job of mixing in visual elements from earlier Star Wars while maintaining cohesion with more modern effects. The final scene is amazing, must've had a team of artists to pull that off. Great story, perfectly complements the better films in the series.
***1/2: Spoiler: A gloomy and probably unnecessary StarWars story it is. However the film is so well acted and well done that it's definitely not bad.
While there's some pretty bad ass Vader appearances. Which
makes us forget the disappointing last time we saw Vader on the big screen in 2005. He gets way cooler lines than "Where's Padme ?" and "Noooooo!" ”
I also liked how they used to bring back dead actors from the original or to make certain actors from the original look younger. They should make a First Order film leading into Force Awakens and use that effect.
My complaint is something that hit me after the film. This a big spoiler: Just that after anyone part of the Rogue One team does their part of the mission, then they're expendable like right after. Time for them to die. Which happens one by one after each character has done what they were supposed to. I didn't expect any survivors from the start but the way it was done was some-what lazy.
For me, paint by numbers. From the beginning it was obvious how it ends. Boring.
This movie was perfect from beginning to end! Never thought i would see all those places and people on the big screen again!!
I wasn't prepared for goosebumps on top of my goosebumps. Felt like i was 7 again.... JUST OUTSTANDING!
Everyone is talking about the final third act of Rogue One. Few minor quibbles aside, the third act is simply incredible, easily worthy of top 3 Star Wars films.
The first half is a bit more problematic. Aside from Jyn Erso and Diego Luna, the character development is almost non existent. Most of the secondary characters are reduced to stereotypes. For me, the most disappointing is Donnie Yen, who could've been one of the coolest force sensitive characters. Instead Chirrut Imwe gets the Darth Maul treatment, uttering corny lines while looking as cool as he can. For me, only Alan Tudyk's K-2SO managed to rise with dry delivery.
Limited character development and pacing on the first half aside, the film does an impressive job setting up the atmosphere and introducing new worlds and new species of aliens. That is not to say the film doesn't pay a fair share of homage to the original trilogy, most rendered very convincingly in CGI. Some gave me goosebumps. But Rogue One is restrained and does not go overboard in "trying to fit in" like The Force Awakens. It carves its own style and solidifying "A Star Wars Story" as a franchise worthy of standing on its own legs, rather than playing a second fiddle.
The opening shot is almost shocking and when the title pops up, it screams confidence. Michael Giacchino's score blends in just the right amount of John Williams and his own signature style. And everything from the costume, set design, and dog fights look and feel convincing.
All in all, I am very impressed with Rogue One, much more so than The Force Awakens which I also enjoyed. I left the theater feeling extremely satisfied. I strongly suspect Rogue One will age well, unlike the prequels.
I had a good feeling about this...since they announced the movie plot. I just thought it could have been a great part of the star wars mithology to look into, and the first time ever since 1978 a (risky) chance to openly sideline the main movies storyline. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem (regardless its up and downs) with the Skywalker's saga, but at this point even without taking into account the expandend universe Star Wars built a vivid and structured universe with so many things untold to add or other things simply hinted but ready to be developed.
So...i liked this movie alot for the aforementioned reasons since it was just a concept, and now more than ever as finished movie being to me somehow the first "new" Star Wars movie since Episode IV. As we all know Lucas had an original story and couldn't squeeze it into a single movie (and a single budget in those days) so it delivered its vision in three parts. But it was just a single story but with such a powerful vision that once the movies ended the universe around them kept living and growing on itself in popular culture.
Since a was a kid playing with my Star Wars toys I had my own stories happening in the Star Wars universe Beyond the movie events, my x-wings were always diving into some attack well after the Battle of Yavin, stormtroopers and rebels where caught in endless fights in some hidden base under my bed or securing secret data in strategic lookouts over my desk.
That's where Rogue One is (finally) happening. It's a zooming in and out over a huge landscape of the saga, somehow far from where much greater powers and characters are at work, the get right to that tiny spot that you knew was there but never took the time to appreciate all the difference it made.
Edwards manage to accomplish many not so easy goals all at once, first Rogue One boldly moves away from the storytelling tone of all its predecessors but still cleverly keeping its roots alive inheriting part of the mood of the Empire Strikes Back, not by chance generally considered the darker movie in the classic trilogy.
From there he builds up a strong, well paced war movie in a far, far away galaxy thanks to a set of solid characters and especially in the first half a stellar screenplay and editing that interwine various plots and happenings. If there is something I could criticize of the movie is that actually the final part loose a bit its keen focus on characters to leave more space to the action. On the other hand a price every aviation or space opera fans will gladly pay to see what will likely remain for some time the greatest space fighter scene ever. The Rebel Alliance attack on Scarif is simply aviation dogfights porn.
And it's amazing thinking that what we are witnessing it's kind of the tiny story compared to the overall Star Wars saga happenings we already know; but again Edwards hits the target dosing the screen time of the most iconic characters, like some punchy chorus in a good song he knows where and how to make Darth Vader have its powerful entrance. Moff Tarkin, R2 and C3PO, Leia as Vader himself even in their small screen time are like towering elements on the background, bringing depth, scale and framing to an already vivid picture.
Last but not least Rogue One without getting into too deep waters remaining an entertainment product, strikes that difficult balance between been a war movie and a movie about war, where the first holds the powerful epic of the sacrifice for some higher belief with the unarguable cinematic power of war scenes, while the second weight is to the more jaded vision where circumstances makes us what we are, and once your innocence is lost there is no turning back or true redemption. Just dealing with what we have done and making our best to stay true to why we did it.
In Rogue One too, wars not make one great.
That would have been a great, though a bit too revealing tagline I guess...
Didn't hate, didn't love. Something rubbed me the wrong way....need to see it again. A few things took me so far out of it. Obvs will have to wait a few weeks to discuss in the open.
Let me begin by saying that the movie definitely had pacing issues. It moves slow in the beginning and although it is quite interesting it takes a while to capture you. I'd even go as far and say that it takes more than half of the movie to do so. But once it does, boy, Rogue One grabs you by the throat and doesn't let go until the credits roll. The last half hour of the movie is EASILY and I don't say that lightly, the best Star Wars has ever been. It even manages to make A New Hope better because of the decisions that Gareth Edwards made in Rogue One. I don't know about you, but I can think of exactly ZERO movies that have made their original inspiration even better.
If there was a bit more character development, Rogue One would be one of the greatest films of the year. Either way, it was easily one of the best Star Wars films, and it got that way through likable characters, spectacular cinematograpy and a great final act.
Oh, and the Vader scene.
this was amazing !! and the last scene wirh darth vader ♥_♡ was awesome
10/10 for me
In many ways it follows the structure of a standard Star Wars film, and it kind of feels like it was made to sell tickets, but you know what? They figured out exactly how to play with the formula to make a satisfying movie. There were no glaring flaws (although I just came from watching, so maybe I'll think of something tomorrow). They tried with all their might to appeal to the fanboy and fangirl in all of us who can't help but be delighted by every easter egg to A New Hope, every connection and every character, and ultimately it made for a quite enjoyable film. Bottom line: it's not exactly Star Wars, it's trying to test how far a Star Wars spin-off can go in terms of separating itself from the films that came before it. It tries to be fresh and different, but not too much. Takeaway from this ramble: in terms of the franchise, Rogue One may not be the main course, but it's a joy to get to enjoy it on the side
My full review can be seen here:
http://uk.blastingnews.com/entertainment/2016/12/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-review-001301535.html
No Bothans were killed in the making of this short review. This is how prequels should be done, sorry
George Lucas - you did a fantastic job with the originals but lost your way afterwards - this is highly reminiscent of the original movie and also deepens our knowledge of that film. It didn't blow me away but then i did see it at a midnight showing and its possible I will enjoy it much more when fully awake.
What The Force Awakens should have been
This movies looks and feels like the original trilogy. Also, I can't help but compare it with last year's episode VII which I didn't like at all. Both movies have a female lead character and that is great. But while everyone is still wondering who is Rey and what is her link to the Jedi, Jyn Erso story is told in a more satisfying way. Cassian is everything Poe Dameron should have been. But what really makes this movie a great addition to the Star Wars franchise is that it is the first true prequel to A New Hope, this movie ends right where Episode IV begins and it allows us to a classic with an enriched background story, which is really great.
The movie has definitely structural issues.
I went into this with an open mind, wanting to love it more than The Force Awakens. Unfortunately I did not.
One undeniable positive is that the effects all look very real and good except 2 things that you will understand.
The movie has structural problems. It's beautiful to watch but it has no heart, no character development. You don't care about anyone that much even Jyn Erso. Now I understand why the had to do re-shoots, it needed it and it was not enough.
Also the score by Michael Giacchino was not very memorable. What can you do when you have to do it in 4 weeks.
World Premiere Review: 12/10/16
I think this was only second to Empire Strikes Back. It was that good. This wasn't your Pa's Star Wars, this was Star Wars with grit, intense action, interesting and investing characters and a true sense that at any point in time, your favorite character might die. Almost Game of Thrones meets Star Wars and (talking with Bob Iger) was a goal for this film and it PAYS OFF. Battles are a major part of this film; white knuckled, adrenaline fueled action. You'll be wired hours after viewing. Imagine the opening to Episode 3, but well done and what you wished Episode 3 was following the opening space battle. I'm at a loss for word without spoiling it. GO SEE IT.
Is it odd that Dodgeball's Steve the Pirate is in this?
RRS The Waiting Begins Now
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I'm just too big of a StarWars fan to not find this movie amazing. I loved every second of it. The storytelling is amazing, the pictures, the music, the acting… just everything from this movie was perfect – how they completed all the plot holes from the old movie. It's amazing how well this story fits into the rest of the StarWars universe!
The only disappointing thing was how unreal Tarkin looked like – it was amazing that and how they let the actor come back to life (as well as young Leia), but especially compared to Leia I immediately spotted how he was computer animated… though still amazing work!