HOLY SHIT!!! I KNEW IT!!
HE WAS HER SON!!
I always had that feeling.
BUT WTF?? LAUREL'S DAD PAID TO KILL WES!!
Man, she's gonna be more pissed when she founds out!
Oliver proposed!! OMG!! SAY YES Connor!
Michaela said it back to Asher!!
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@messtix You got it wrong, Wes is not Annalise's son, he's Charles Mahoney's and Rose Edmond's son. It's been said in this episode. At the end Annalise just said she felt as if Wes was her son. She loves him that way.
This show didn't end. TMDB incorrectly marked it as ended and labelled next episodes as part of a separate show. IMDB shows seasons correctly and has Season 14. Is there any way to report this so it could get fixed?
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@zombiebxxk Yes, they are rebranding it because of Disney Plus, so it wouldn't say Season 14 on the platform. But that still doesn't change the fact that the new episode The Star Beast is direct continuation of the Power of the Doctor and it can't be watched without watching previous episodes. It's the same show, just a new season, not a reboot. They made a complete mess.
damn good episode after last weeks travesty, sad over Hemmer's death but not sorry to see La'an leave
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@quasar1967 Please use spoiler tags. I've come to check the ratings, but instead saw a gigantic spoiler, and it ruined the episode and the whole season for me and possibly it will for others as well. Fix it please.
JACK FUCKING HARKNESS!!! OH MY GOD, I MISSED HIM SO MUCH! Jack and Thirteen are the iconic chaotic duo we deserve! The cowards in the writers' room didn't let them meet cause they knew those two would be too powerful together. (Also, if they don't let them kiss, I'm suing).
Loved the callbacks to David Tennant's iconic "a Judoon platoon upon the moon" line.
I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of the new incarnation of the Doctor. Nothing against the actress, but she doesn't feel like the Doctor to me. Like, she's too put together? My Doctor is a clown with a single brain cell, so I don't vibe with this sophisticated version. The storyline looks interesting though. Has the Doctor lost her memory or is Ruth!Doctor from an alternate timeline/universe? How does the Timeless Child fit into this? And what was Jack talking about? So many questions. I hope the pay off is worth it.loading replies
@aniela-krajewska I agree about the new doctor, there was something off about her - those martial arts skills, the use of weapons, plus she was way to serious. I don't know, maybe she wasn't the doctor at all.
I'm really starting to hate Bellamy, leaving her in the woods all alone was cruel and he knows it's dangerous and she may die, they warned them. I'm tired of his unjustified anger. He sure quickly forgot how he drugged her knowing she might die and he didn't care. This is the third time he does that to her. He did worse things than O, he got Lincoln killed as well, but he has to be forgiven, right... Nice episode though.
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@niquarl Yes, he shows remorse from time to time, though he didn't mind killing Cooper at all in s5, plus he killed more people than O for nothing, so he's not the one to preach. But it's not just about that, it's about how he didn't even care enough to ask what happened in the bunker, he fails to see that his sister is mentally broken and that she needs help and support, instead he tries to get her killed multiple times. What kind of brother is that?! So I have no justification of his behavior towards O.
Great episode as always...But I've just read that the show got canceled, what the hell?!? They are out of their minds! This is the best sci-fi show on TV! There is a petition going on for Netflix to pick it up for s4, everyone should sign it! Hopefully they will find a new network.
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@abcscout Here's the link to petition https://www.change.org/p/amazon-or-netflix-please-buy-the-rights-to-the-expanse-savetheexpanse
Yeah, Netflix didn't want to buy the rghts, so they should be negotiating with Amazon now. We'll see how the things will turn out. I still can't believe SyFy chose to end it. I guess there's no point in investing time in their shows cause they are prone to canceling them, did the same with Dark Matter.
Is Abby supposed to be a junkie now?? Cause Kane told her to stop taking the pills... And what's going on with his hair, it's ridiculous, I can't take the guy seriously...
The Bellamy/Octavia and Clarke/Abby reunions were really emotional, I teared up a little.
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@juiletburked Yes, Abby is ill and since Raven went to space and couldn't help her, she needed to take medications of some sort. But now the more I think about it, she's been taking the pills for six years, would it really be such a surprise that she got addicted to them... Plus, Kane told her not to take them anymore, the actual lines were these, I quote:
Kane: Promise me you'll stop taking the pills.
Abby: I will. I promise.
So I think she was medically dependent on them at first, but now she's chemically dependent as well.
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VIP3Why was my comment deleted? It did not break any rules nor was it disrespectful in any way. I came here to reply to the person who commented my message and I saw it's gone. I will repost it since it did not break the rules. The comment could also be helpful to the newcomers who might think this is a brand new show.
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Why in the world is this marked as separate show and the one from 2005 marked as Ended? This is not a reboot, but a direct continuation of the previous episode The Power of the Doctor! I know they want to call the new season Season 1 because of Disney Plus, but it is not, it's actually Season 14. It makes no sense at all. Not to mention that the specials also reference previous seasons. This is not like a reboot from 2005 when newcomers could just start watching from there and ignore Classic Who. Newcomers can't start from here! I don't understand why it couldn't say Season 14 on Disney. All the previous seasons could be imported at some point once the whatever deal they have with BBC expires (I assume that's what is stopping them from putting them on the platform right away).
This is just insane, an insult to the fans, Jodie (doctor not regenerating into her clothes), Chibnall, everyone...How do we organize our collection now and sync with Trakt? I don't want to label it as a separate show. What's interesting is that IMDB and TVDB show seasons correctly and have Season 14. TMDB does some weird stuff.
Update: If someone is wondering how to organize the collection in Plex, just follow TVDB and it will be shown correctly.
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@indy911 You can't. Trakt pulls data from TMDB which is unfortunate in this case because TMDB marks Season 14 as Season 1 of a "new show". TVDB and IMDB marks it as S14, but Trakt doesn't use those, so they are shown as two separate shows here. This is S14 https://trakt.tv/shows/doctor-who-213360/seasons/1.
Review by Ana
VIP3Why was my comment deleted? It did not break any rules nor was it disrespectful in any way. I came here to reply to the person who commented my message and I saw it's gone. I will repost it since it did not break the rules. The comment could also be helpful to the newcomers who might think this is a brand new show.
-------Comment posted on 26 Nov 2023
Why in the world is this marked as separate show and the one from 2005 marked as Ended? This is not a reboot, but a direct continuation of the previous episode The Power of the Doctor! I know they want to call the new season Season 1 because of Disney Plus, but it is not, it's actually Season 14. It makes no sense at all. Not to mention that the specials also reference previous seasons. This is not like a reboot from 2005 when newcomers could just start watching from there and ignore Classic Who. Newcomers can't start from here! I don't understand why it couldn't say Season 14 on Disney. All the previous seasons could be imported at some point once the whatever deal they have with BBC expires (I assume that's what is stopping them from putting them on the platform right away).
This is just insane, an insult to the fans, Jodie (doctor not regenerating into her clothes), Chibnall, everyone...How do we organize our collection now and sync with Trakt? I don't want to label it as a separate show. What's interesting is that IMDB and TVDB show seasons correctly and have Season 14. TMDB does some weird stuff.
Update: If someone is wondering how to organize the collection in Plex, just follow TVDB and it will be shown correctly.
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@robio100 Yes, I saw the announcement. He can call it whatever he wants, it still doesn't change the fact that is Season 14 of the same show and can't be watched without previous knowledge. They are doing this because of Disney Plus.
Review by Ana
VIP3Why was my comment deleted? It did not break any rules nor was it disrespectful in any way. I came here to reply to the person who commented my message and I saw it's gone. I will repost it since it did not break the rules. The comment could also be helpful to the newcomers who might think this is a brand new show.
-------Comment posted on 26 Nov 2023
Why in the world is this marked as separate show and the one from 2005 marked as Ended? This is not a reboot, but a direct continuation of the previous episode The Power of the Doctor! I know they want to call the new season Season 1 because of Disney Plus, but it is not, it's actually Season 14. It makes no sense at all. Not to mention that the specials also reference previous seasons. This is not like a reboot from 2005 when newcomers could just start watching from there and ignore Classic Who. Newcomers can't start from here! I don't understand why it couldn't say Season 14 on Disney. All the previous seasons could be imported at some point once the whatever deal they have with BBC expires (I assume that's what is stopping them from putting them on the platform right away).
This is just insane, an insult to the fans, Jodie (doctor not regenerating into her clothes), Chibnall, everyone...How do we organize our collection now and sync with Trakt? I don't want to label it as a separate show. What's interesting is that IMDB and TVDB show seasons correctly and have Season 14. TMDB does some weird stuff.
Update: If someone is wondering how to organize the collection in Plex, just follow TVDB and it will be shown correctly.
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@tangata-rereke Thanks, though I don't think that will change anything. Trakt pulls data exclusively from TMDB if I'm not mistaken and TMDB decided to follow the rebranding thing, even though this issue was reported to them by multiple users.
Review by Ana
VIP3Why was my comment deleted? It did not break any rules nor was it disrespectful in any way. I came here to reply to the person who commented my message and I saw it's gone. I will repost it since it did not break the rules. The comment could also be helpful to the newcomers who might think this is a brand new show.
-------Comment posted on 26 Nov 2023
Why in the world is this marked as separate show and the one from 2005 marked as Ended? This is not a reboot, but a direct continuation of the previous episode The Power of the Doctor! I know they want to call the new season Season 1 because of Disney Plus, but it is not, it's actually Season 14. It makes no sense at all. Not to mention that the specials also reference previous seasons. This is not like a reboot from 2005 when newcomers could just start watching from there and ignore Classic Who. Newcomers can't start from here! I don't understand why it couldn't say Season 14 on Disney. All the previous seasons could be imported at some point once the whatever deal they have with BBC expires (I assume that's what is stopping them from putting them on the platform right away).
This is just insane, an insult to the fans, Jodie (doctor not regenerating into her clothes), Chibnall, everyone...How do we organize our collection now and sync with Trakt? I don't want to label it as a separate show. What's interesting is that IMDB and TVDB show seasons correctly and have Season 14. TMDB does some weird stuff.
Update: If someone is wondering how to organize the collection in Plex, just follow TVDB and it will be shown correctly.
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@sannita Yeah, I still don't know why it was deleted. Anyway, the BBC does apparently treat them as separate shows, never mind it makes no sense. I bet it's all because of Disney Plus. They probably don't want to scare of potential new fans by showing Season 14, so they went with Season 1 instead even though the newcomers would still be completely lost. They made a complete mess. The IMDB and TVDB still treat them as the same show like it should be, so I guess our own collection can be properly organized, but here on Trakt will have to keep them separate.
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If they don't bring Abby back I'll cry wtf she's my fave and basically the only reason I look forward to every ep. why is she gone?? :(
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@luthor-zor-el Yeah, this really came as a shock. She's the best part of the show, it would make no sense to just kick her out like that. I hope she'll come back next season.
I've honestly experienced vicarious embarrassment while watching this. They copied the first episode of Miranda almost word for word, even used the 'Orlando and Bloom' joke, but failed to deliver it. The acting feels forced and quite bad which is disappointing because Mayim is a good actress, but I guess she's just not right for this role (I don't know if there's anyone at all that could carry this US version). Her interaction with the audience seems awkward as well like she was just explaining her actions to us and I didn't feel connected to her. I have seen the second episode as well and it did not get better. Their own jokes aren't funny and the laugh track just makes it worse because there's really nothing to be laughing about. I might force myself to watch the rest just to see whether it would improve, but based on the first two episodes that's probably unlikely to happen.
They should have never tried to remake Miranda, that show is unique and utterly hilarious thanks to the performance of the brilliant Miranda Hart. So, all of you who might not have seen it yet, just do yourself a favor and go watch Miranda instead, it's infinitely better.loading replies
@y2jin99 Why are you being angry and defensive? Are people not allowed to dislike something? Besides, everyone here is allowed to express their opinion even if it's a negative one, there's no need for you to try to convince me how wrong I am. Plus, it wasn't based just on the pilot, so I don't see the point of your comment.
The comparison with Miranda is justified and expected since it's based on it, who cares if someone hasn't seen it. It's actually a good thing to compare the two because more people will hear about that amazing show and maybe give it a go. And even if I hadn't seen Miranda, I would have still stopped watching this one after 3rd episode (as I did) cause it's unfunny, cringey with some third-class acting. If you find it humorous, well, good for you. I hope there will be many more seasons for you to enjoy. Cheers!
I don't get the negative comments on this season. Sure, it was a bit slow, not many things happened, but it was all about characters growth, especially Villanelle's, I mean, she now wants to break free, to stop with the killing and she was willing to let go of Eve, so Eve could have a normal life, far away from V's dark influence. And there's Eve, who embraced her dark side for a moment, but is scared of it and wants to escape it. So, from that aspect, the season is really good.
Of course there are other things that could've been better. Kenny's death and Niko's story were obviously used as plot devices to make Eve work on the case again and bring her and V together. "Who killed Kenny" part should've been handled better, it's just so unbelievable that he accidentally fell off the roof. But all in all, the season was still strong.
I loved the ending and I'm glad they both turned back and chose each other (at least that's how I understood that scene). So I'm looking forward to seeing what's next season will bring. Maybe they'll work together to bring down the 12, since Villanelle wanted to join MI6.
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@the_argentinian It was the best, but not the only good thing this season. I actually enjoyed the slower pace and them tackling the different types of relationships, familial, friendship, romantic. So, for me, it was a good season. If you didn't enjoy it, well what can I say... We all have different taste and opinions. :)
What happened? Did I miss an episode? What happened to the other Doctor and to all the plot that's attached to that mystery?
Instead we get another episode that is more or less the same as Orphan-55 with some ridiculous monster connected to environmental issues and some blatant lecturing. If you really want to raise awareness on how humans are destroying earth please do it in a serious way and not like this. Otherwise even people who agree - like I do - will feel annoyed. The overall idea and concept of the story and the monster is totally fine, but the delivery ruined it.
In other news: Once more an episode full of diversity for diversity's sake, not because it makes any sense. Why are you suddenly so bad at this, BBC?loading replies
@onlime You didn't miss an episode. This episode is continuation of the previous one. Fugitive of the Judoon ended with Doctor receiving three signals from three different parts of the world.
Things are getting crazier. Has Octavia's hand just aged? :open_mouth:
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@genetai Perhaps... But wouldn't Diyoza be affected then as well? Maybe they'll explain it in the next episode.
Things are getting crazier. Has Octavia's hand just aged? :open_mouth:
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@tasa24 Yes, it looked exactly like that. The guy mentioned that the green light was temporal flare, so I guess that anomaly ages everything it comes in contact with. Though I'm a bit confused about how it could've affected her hand since she was completely immersed in the mud.
Review by Ana
VIP3What the f*ck was this?!?! I've never been so pissed! Cersei is the one who is insane deviant psychopath, she is the one who's always been murdering innocents and yet they gave her this "heartbreaking" death, like I'm suppose to be sad for that bitch. She deserved much worse faith. And Dany!?! Dany has been nothing but kind, fair and good queen. She helped and saved people, she never ever hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. And now, all of a sudden, in less than 5 minutes they make her do something so out of character just to make her look mad! Why? Just to justify putting Jon on a throne! Because he's a man I guess?!? Jon who, let's face it, is an incapable ruler, he never did anything right and he would be dead a long time ago if it wasn't for other people saving his ass like Sansa, Arya and DANY, but somehow he gets all the credits, praise and promotions! I was rooting 7 season for her just to get this bullshit! F*ck this show and the writers! You managed to make the best show the worst show ever! I don't even care anymore about what happens in the last episode, they probably going to kill Dany so the dumb Jon could become a king. This show is dead to me.
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@smajl It's not a feminist rage, it was said in the previous episode that he should sit on the throne and be the ruler because he's the man. Said by Varys. Watch it again to see it, I didn't make this stuff up. Yes, he is man of honor and that's all he is. He brought people together, but all his battle plans went to hell, he has zero leader capabilities. He always says he doesn't want the title and yet he always gets it as a reward for other people's accomplishments. And they ruined Dany's character in the matter of minutes for his sake. It's shitty writing and it's disrespectful to her character.
