I don’t get it. Why they suddenly decided to make a clown out of Jake? He was a dorky type, yes, but this season (so far) it is so exaggerated.
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@yuurei when has he not been a clown haha
I have not missed Gina one bit this season. She lifts out surprisingly easily and her absence allows for more streamlined storytelling.
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Omg, I didn't even notice she was missing till I read this. No wonder I enjoyed it more, she had few redeemable moments and was mostly annoying.
This one was the most PC episode I saw in this year. I mean I understand being a bisexual is an important thing to Rosa, but it is not necessery to put on display for a whole episode. We'd get and accept her sexual orientation if it was presented in a more subtle way.
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@ibrakadabra This is how life actually is. Just because it's not applicable or relatable for you, doesn't mean it's not incredibly important to other people. Please consider this before dismissing a whole demographic of people and their struggles.
overly gay focused for absolutely no reason.
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@cyn-c Just because it doesn't matter to you, doesn't mean it's not incredibly important to other people. Please consider this before you ignorantly dismiss a whole demographic of people and their struggles.
Poor Laurel, this is all so emotionally tormenting for her. Good episode and ready for Oli to return.
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@teenwolfpack She needs to be someone else...something else!
I hope to God Felicity is dead or dies!!!!!!!!
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@witter56 Must hate women in general. Shut up
"Ooh, it's filming in Bosnia! They're paying you scale. But it'll be in Baltic currency."
Bosnia is a Baltic country now? Was this a joke that I missed? Or is geography as hard for Canadians as it is for Americans?
Also, "Hmm, it's being released in Bosnia, Croatia, Herzegovina." WTF?! Bosnia and Herzegovina is one country?! Like srsly? WTF?
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@cutecruel you need to get a grip and get some therapy for your anger issues over a silly comedy show
Would really love to know what Cliff said after "Sayonara." Hulu lazily subtitled that line as "[speaking foreign language]"…
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@dgw Sounded like he said "jak się masz," which is Polish (and, I think, Czech) for "hello, how are you?" or "how do you do," similar to the phrase "wie geht's?" ("wie geht es Dir?") in German. The Polish phrase was later popularized by Borat (Google tells me that Kazakhstan has a Polish-speaking minority from the old Sovjet days).
Third season in and I'm still not sure what to think about Snyder.
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@honzih Which speaks volumes about how good the writing (and acting) is for this show.
Great episode! We get to see how much Snyder has changed with a completely unexpected murder and subsequent explosion to take Kynes out. We're also finally getting confirmation that Kynes is running a resistance operation with the outliers.That opening sequence also tends to support the theory that the war the outliers are being prepared for is already underway, meaning that the enemies of the hosts are already on the ground, an idea that popped up after the spaceship crash witnessed by Will and Snyder and the weird building Amy and Broussard passed on their way North. Or maybe it was just a training camp, maybe it's not on earth?
We're getting very close to the end of the season and this episode sets up interesting threads, which makes me regret that the Seattle story took so long to emerge into something coherent, something especially weird because it began mid season.
I'm afraid we won't have time to see the whole thing unfold and the season will end on a butter cliffhanger. I would have gladly sacrificed the whole Seattle ellipsis and the Bram storyline to make room for it.
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@d2dyno I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. They tried to make him relatable through the labor camp story and I enjoyed following him in that arc, but he progressively went back to being this unrelatable and slightly annoying self from season 1.
Back when they were in the camp, I felt a death coming and prayed for it to not be Charlie, as he felt like the most interesting of the 3 children.
Oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Great episode! We get to see how much Snyder has changed with a completely unexpected murder and subsequent explosion to take Kynes out. We're also finally getting confirmation that Kynes is running a resistance operation with the outliers.That opening sequence also tends to support the theory that the war the outliers are being prepared for is already underway, meaning that the enemies of the hosts are already on the ground, an idea that popped up after the spaceship crash witnessed by Will and Snyder and the weird building Amy and Broussard passed on their way North. Or maybe it was just a training camp, maybe it's not on earth?
We're getting very close to the end of the season and this episode sets up interesting threads, which makes me regret that the Seattle story took so long to emerge into something coherent, something especially weird because it began mid season.
I'm afraid we won't have time to see the whole thing unfold and the season will end on a butter cliffhanger. I would have gladly sacrificed the whole Seattle ellipsis and the Bram storyline to make room for it.
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@odrel Agreed. Bram literally serves no purpose in this show haha.
God, I still hate Lori
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@dgw Sarah Wayne Callies (Katie), the actress, was also in The Walking Dead, she played Lori there.
What started as a great comedy series, ended as a struggle to finish an episode. Recommended but stop watching when it starts getting uncomfortable..
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Last couple of seasons definitely felt like a drag.
...and who knew that every fear in this movie would become a reality after a tragic terrorist attack in 2001.
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And the guy's birthday is 9/11...
What kind of idiot voted 1 point before the episode is aired?
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@borayeris My guess probably some Kaylon.
The shuttle that takes the device from Earth to the waiting Krill ship is numbered ECV-197-1, matching the Orville's shuttle. The question is, is it really one of the titular ship's pods or is it the result of lazy VFX work? Personally, I lean toward the latter; another pod numbered ECV-197-1 is clearly visible in Orville's shuttle bay when the Kaylon pod docks about halfway through the episode, and in later scenes. (Looking at you, Defiant. It's the Sao Paulo all over again.)
I am frustrated by how shallow this episode seems, despite its attempts to seem deep. Getting too far into it would be major spoilers, but let's just say there are a lot of ships critically damaged or destroyed in this episode that go completely unacknowledged. The cynic in me says that "you know why" there's only one casualty we seem to care about. Maybe the next (and final?) episode will address the rest.
Maybe.
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@dgw Arguing minutia, and focusing on the fighter pilot deaths, I don't think Ensign Asian (Eric C. Sun's character is never named) was a member of the Orville's crew. The Orville was assigned a single Pterodon, and LaMarr was flying it. The others in his formation presumably came from their respective ships. So those ships (assuming they didn't a splode) are the ones holding funerals for those officers. And Union Central would most likely be honoring entire ships lost.
Yeah, this episode was intentionally superficial compared to the others, like one of the many "space battle" episodes of Deep Space Nine during the Dominion War. There were at least 100 people on each of those Miranda-class ships that kept popping like balloons. But it was necessary to show things at an interstellar level for once. I imagine next week's episode will be similar.
As for the reuse of digital assets, The Orville is no better than any other TV show trying to stay within budget. The DS9 finale also made teenaged me upset with all the lazy reuse of CG. The thing that irks me the most about this season of The Orville is how everything magically juuuuust fits in that shuttle bay.
An absolute piece of Leftist propaganda garbage, filled with cliches we are all fed up with. :rolling_eyes:
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@durack which parts of it were leftist propaganda?
I was never a fan of "origin story" episodes, as they easily tend to become filler episodes (the story barely moves forward and they often spend a whole episode with something that could be explained in a single scene). But what really ruined this one for me was the accidentally half-closed drawer with the cigars inside for the wife to casually notice and become suspicious about it. Such a cliché, that was just lazy writing, which is the exact opposite of what this show has got us used to.
Also, no Howard Alpha (I guess that's the name the show got for our Howard) fucking things up for Howard Prime on the other side. That surely has become quintessential Counterpart, by now.
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@misnomer At first I thought the same about the drawer but it was ultimately inconsequential since Peter confronted her before she could do anything. Quite frankly, had I been in her position the toast would have had me shitting bricks already...
Started off fine but then the exposition became really annoying and the long runtime started to become an issue. I have no idea why they tried to keep Ellie’s secret hidden, just made me irritated.
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@eriohm They revealed it the same way the game did, although in the show the moment passed fairly quickly as they were rushed to get out of there. In the game they discussed it for a minute, asking why Marlene set them up. It was a pretty big moment in the game so I can see why they waited to show it there. I'm guessing the beginning of the next episode will focus a little more on them confronting Ellie about it.
Personally, I didn't feel the length at all. It felt like it was over sooner than most 45 minute episodes feel. I was just drawn into it so much I guess.
I really really REALLY wish the show doesn't steer into The Walking Dead direction. All I want is creatures and intense edge of the seat scares.
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@typongtv The game wasn't mainly about the creatures, so I doubt the show will be. Maybe watch Silent Hill instead?
how could a film that bases an entire storyline around a Ratatouille joke not be absolutely fantastic?
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@samtasia I think you mean Racacoonie?
Bored by this show by now
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@lynchreborn But you gave it a 7?
First 2 seasons are definitely recommended. It got "woke" in season 3 and isn't worth the time anymore. Unfollowed.
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@martlet It's a great show. The idea that it's "woke" is just the standard alt-right nonsense that gets regurgitated every time any show covers any progressive subject.
First 2 seasons are definitely recommended. It got "woke" in season 3 and isn't worth the time anymore. Unfollowed.
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@martlet I just don't see it. None of it seemed forced to me. They certainly touched on a bunch of subjects but the entire concept of things being "woke" is flawed in and of itself. In the context of entertainment media it's a label pretty much exclusively used to deride anything that even remotely covers a social or political statement people on the right disagree with.
I personally don't think it's a bad thing that media nods towards current social affairs and it's not a new thing by any stretch. Things like racism and sexism have been topics plenty of times in shows and movies in the past, but it's only now that certain people go into apoplectic meltdown when it comes up.
Good cast. Boring movie for me. I just didnt care about the sales people. Every time I watched Jack Lemmon's character I just thought of old Gill from The Simpsons. Pacino seemed cast for his voice and the monologues.
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Literally all they do is snap at each other with the same attitude and same insults lmao
it was really magnificent, cannot understand how can be IMDB score is low, there are a lot of garbage movies are higher than the movie :(
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@anjektus_film You're grading the movie based on something it isn't. A movie is never a book, nor is a book ever a movie. As a movie, this is a good flick. As a book, it is a good book. Both are different mediums and therefore different versions of the same story. You can like or dislike both. Nothing wrong with that.
Mindbogglingly boring.
I am a huge scifi fan, I love almost everything in the scifi and fantasy genre. So of course I was looking forward to this, two parallel worlds where the protagonists meet and interact, how cool is that premise?
Turns out it wasn't, isn't nor will be cool or even interesting. It was dull, forseeable and an utter piece of crap.
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@bardolph77 I couldn't disagree more, and I don't really understand people like you who love throwing shade. When decent people dislike a show, then as soon as they realize this, they turn it off and walk away as their time is valuable. They understand that others might enjoy it and don't get a thrill trying to shit on them. Also, "Loving almost everything in the scifi and fantasy genre" doesn't make you an expert. You've lumped together an astoundingly broad and massive set of MANY interconnected genres and sub-genres spanning back over 100 years. Nobody loves it all because there is something for everyone. Even you. I'm an old geezer who's been reading and watching all the Sci-Fi i and Fantasy can get my hands on for 40 years, and can say that the more one learns, the more they realize they haven't learned anything at all. It's a very big world.
To everyone else, I just watched Counterpart and very much enjoyed it. It is a "thinker fiction" series, in the spirit of The Twilight Zone from the 60's and to my tastes feels a bit like taking single episode of TTZ and expanding into a full modern series. Human drama unfolds through an interesting "what if" story concept. I find it fun and fascinating, and will definitely be watching each week.
:: Bottom line ::
If you want flashy action Sci-Fi, you will be disappointed. Worry not, there's an endless supply of that kind of fiction elsewhere.
If you enjoyed "11.22.63" or "The Man in High Castle", you will probably like this show quite a lot.
Filler episode that added nothing to the story long-term. Meh.
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This episode shows how the two have grown closer, showed Ellie dealing with a problem on her own (two including Joel), and is world building showing some of the groups of people that have come together after the “apocalypse.”
Character A is incapacitated. Character B revives Character A just in time to save Character B from imprisonment. Yawn. Such amateur writing no wonder every episode gets reddit gold. This weeks mega villain eats meat. So he must die.
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@htpcmac except character A never saved character B from imprisonment. the villain must die cause he's a pedophile who beats children did you even watch the episode
3 things needed to be achieved in this episode to ensure the success of the season finale and the build up to an epic season 2.
1) Ellie is the strong element on the equation, she is truly special and not a clever little girl. She is a natural leader and powerful women (super clear during the talk in the cell and when she grabs that cleaver, cleverly );
2)that Bella Ramsey can be adult, raw, fearless and agressive . Her face covered in blood, the knife cuts and the fire behind makes it very visual
3) and finally that the the relationship with Joel is of love and dependence. They would do anything to save the other. When they meet at the end we can see it in their eyes.Thats why this simple episode needed an amazing performance and we got it. Truly incredible and remarkable with so many small references to the game and one HUGE one: Troy Baker :)
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@carlosluislopes
"cleaver little girl"
I don't know if that typo was intentional, but she is indeed a clever cleaver girl.
