Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP9This was an episode comprised of three stories from three of the show's most significant characters. One was great; one was good; one was godawful, all for different reasons. Let's take them in turn.
Saul's storyline was tremendous, and much of it has to do with the direction and cinematography of the episode. Mandy Patinkin certainly held up his end of the bargain, but the way his scenes were structured really elucidated Saul's paranoia without having to be more explicit about it. The way the camera seemed to be spying on him (a technique the show would employ in its first season) sold Saul's feeling cornered and needing to do something risky and/or desperate. I also appreciated how he gave Carrie the kiss off at the beginning of the episode, but that what he was experiencing gave him reason to believe her. Straining the relationship between your two most significant characters and then bringing them back together is an old trick, but they're doing the legwork to make it plausible and compelling. At the same time, it was nice to see Saul using those spy skills again, from downloading the documents after creating a diversion, to slipping During the drive without his CIA tail being able to catch on. Great stuff.
Carrie's storyline was only OK, but it was heightened tremendously, as always, by Claire Daines's acting. Whatever they are paying Daines, it isn't enough, because in scenes where her character is lonely or isolated or desperate or blindsided, the written dialogue does her no favors -- full of cliches and weak lines -- but she sells in her reading of those lines, in the pained or blindsided or wistful expressions that show she's at the end of her rope, and in the way she carries herself that lets the audience buy into her situation. She's succeeding in a herculean task on that front, and it elevates the material.
The Quinn storyline, however, was ridiculous, in a bad way. I realize that any show, especially one involving spycraft, is going to require a certain amount of willing suspension of disbelief, and a tolerance for things working out just as they need to for the plot to move along. But my god, a nearly-mortally wounded Quinn being rescued by a random good samaritan who just so happens to be flatmates with a terrorist who was released because of the very documents that Carrie is so worked up over and revealed Saul's plan with the Germans? That just strains plausibility too far. It's far too convenient as a plot development, and Quinn overhearing a terrorist plot, and then becoming the Pirate King by killing the terrorist guy in a final showdown rumble at the end of the episode was just too cartoonish for me to bear. Really hacky stuff. I don't know where they're going with all of this, but it had better be good to justify this level of B.S.
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I like Quinn too! He's probably my favorite character on the show from a pure enjoyment standpoint. But that's why he deserves better storylines than this dreck.
As a Geman I laughed very hard when I found out that in the Homeland parallel universe the construction of Berlin Airport BER is actually finished so it can be threatended by terrorists.
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@onlime This season takes place 2 years in the future. Remember it is two years in the future from the previous season? That's right. It's in the future dude
Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP9[8.4/10] Despite the fact that, more often than not, Homeland tells its stories piecemeal, developing different threads until it ties them together when the endgame is in sight, it likes to draw thematic parallels. Characters may not cross paths for episodes, but still have a connection in the kinds of choices presented to them. And in “Flash of Light,” many of our heroes are pulled between loyalty on the one hand, and their principles, what they think is best for the world, on the other.
The easiest example is Carrie herself. Even when prompted by the President-Elect to squeal on Dar Adal (or, to use their delightful euphemism of choice, give the administration something with which to “leverage” him), she is reluctant. Carrie doesn’t like Dar Adal, and as her confrontation with him outside of Franny’s school indicates, she thinks that he and his ilk are a big reason why the world is in its current state, a state she wants to change. But she was an intelligence officer, and as she puts it, even Dar had her back in that guise. She does not want to betray that loyalty, that group of people bound by the sacrifices of people who died in services of it, even when pressured by the soon-to-be leader of the free world.
But on the other hand, she’s committed to the vision for that better world. The President-Elect’s pitch is a persuasive one, that if sidelining Dar means reforming the CIA in her image, helping to create a world with fewer Brodys, fewer Aayans, fewer Quinns to be perpetrators and casualties in this war, then it may very well be worth it. The episode leaves things ambiguous, but hints that Carrie, for the moment, hasn’t given them much, though the possibilities weigh on her.
They weigh on Sekou as well, and come to a head as Carrie confronts him. After her stunt manages to get him released from prison, his orders are to lay low and not comment to preserve the deal. Sekou initially seems accommodating, but when former associates accuse him of being a snitch, he releases another video defending his honor and outing the real informant. Sekou too has principles, and wants to show that he is as committed to his cause as someone like Carrie is committed to hers. He wants to wake people up, shock their consciences and let them see the ugliness of what he sees as the truth.
The most powerful moment, however, is when Carrie calls him on this. She displays a loyalty to him, a sense that even though she doesn’t know him, even though she’s virulently opposed and offended to the things he says and does, she stands up for him because she doesn’t think what happened to him is right. She, better than anyone, understands what the intelligence community’s approach to terrorism has resulted in. (And her statement that this has gone crazy since 9/11 is pretty bold stuff, even for a show on premium cable.) But she gets through to him, enough for him to appreciate her loyalty, see the look of joy in his mother’s eyes at having him home, and realize that there is something at home worth preserving, worth sacrificing for.
Saul is tested in similar terms. He meets with the Iranian puppet he installed three years ago, to try to get to the bottom of the parallel nuclear program suspicions. Saul continues to harbor his own suspicions that he’s being set up, or at least used by his brethren in the CIA. But he’s also loyal to where he comes from, enough to where he wants to be absolutely sure that his compatriots aren’t on to something before he acts on those suspicions. As his partner in crime resists but hints at, they’re too invested in what they’ve built with Iran to let it go so easily, and it’s enough to risk a lot to preserve.
But it puts other loyalties and friendship in the crosshairs. As it was in the prior episode, Saul’s sister is emblematic of this theme, chastising her brother for taking the side of the Arabs and betraying his people, but lying for him to Mossad in order to keep the cover on his story. And Etai is nominally Saul’s friend too, someone who presumably doesn’t want to lock Saul in de facto jail until he spills the beans. But Etai is just as loyal to Israel, to his people, and to the idea that they need a place of safety, even when it seems like they’re beset by risks on all sides.
The only individual who isn’t being pulled in these directions is Quinn, whose spy instincts seem to have sniffed out something genuinely fishy rather than a product of his paranoia. I don’t know how I feel about him turning out to be right in his Rear Window-esque madness, but the episode does well to toe the line between him being on to something and him just being crazy, replete with dismissals from Carrie, fairly well. The man from across the way is, at least seemingly, involved in taking out Sekou
And that is how Sekou’s loyalty is rewarded. When he takes down his video, goes back to work, and tries to, for lack of a better term, straighten up and fly right, he gets caught up in forces much greater than himself. It’s not hard to imagine that this is false flag terrorism, whether it’s Dar Adal or Conlin or someone else affiliated with the intelligence apparatus going with a last resort to prevent the new paradigm dreamed up by Carrie and the President Elect from having the popular support or political climate to be instituted.
Like Aayan before him, he becomes a pawn in a greater game, perhaps not wholly innocent, but someone who seems to understand that the people of this country, the people he’s trying to wake up, are not all bad. That they understand and are, perhaps, worth respecting. As he turns that corner, he becomes another casualty of the back-and-forth that Carrie is desperate to stop, a move that Dar Adal believes would be a dereliction of duty, of his own loyalty to his country and compatriots.
That is, perhaps, the larger theme of “Flash of Light.” That individual loyalties and individual beliefs about the greater good conflict in difficult ways, intersection at choke points that bring people in opposition to one another. When that happens, no matter how well-intentioned everyone may be, people get hurt, sometimes innocent people, and stopping that takes hard choices between the connections you’ve shared with other and the chance to preserve what you believe in.
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@dgw Thanks for the heads up! Should be fixed now.
eliot wasnt in this episode at all who wrote this synopsis?
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@bobmarket it was from TheTVDB. I have corrected it.
This is a remake of an episode from the original series; like many remakes, it's inferior to the original. While this one has its moments, some disturbing content--especially implied sexual relations between Data and a human woman--messed this up for me. The language was actually rather clean...until the last scene or two; then they fouled it up.
Content Concerns:
Sex: Implied sex between a male-type android and a human woman; Data is stopped short before making a crude joke. 2/5
Nudity: A woman is seen wearing an outfit that displays her midriff, her back, and a bit of the lower part of her chest. 3/5
Language: Four or so d-words; one or two h-words; two or three misuses of God's name. 2/5
Violence: Sci-fi action violence throughout. 3/5
Drugs: It is said that the reactions that the crew has are like being intoxicated. 4/5
Frightening/Intense Scenes: Plenty of emotional intensity; the ship nearly gets destroyed; Geordi is seen without his visor. 3/5Score: 3/5
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@dgw LOL "The story of two teenage girls buying their first bras is of no interest to me, and made me feel a bit creepy watching it." This seems a natural consequence of a 30-year old dude watching a show aimed at tween girls.
This is a remake of an episode from the original series; like many remakes, it's inferior to the original. While this one has its moments, some disturbing content--especially implied sexual relations between Data and a human woman--messed this up for me. The language was actually rather clean...until the last scene or two; then they fouled it up.
Content Concerns:
Sex: Implied sex between a male-type android and a human woman; Data is stopped short before making a crude joke. 2/5
Nudity: A woman is seen wearing an outfit that displays her midriff, her back, and a bit of the lower part of her chest. 3/5
Language: Four or so d-words; one or two h-words; two or three misuses of God's name. 2/5
Violence: Sci-fi action violence throughout. 3/5
Drugs: It is said that the reactions that the crew has are like being intoxicated. 4/5
Frightening/Intense Scenes: Plenty of emotional intensity; the ship nearly gets destroyed; Geordi is seen without his visor. 3/5Score: 3/5
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@dgw "Unless they fall into the superhero, sci-fi/fantasy, or Christian genres, I rarely watch PG-13 films. Among discerning viewers (...) movies with that rating are known for getting the reaction, 'That should have been rated R!'"
Are they? Are they really? That's not how the Motion Picture Association of America film rating system works! That's not how any of this works! LOL
If this dude thinks a PG-13 film should be rated R, he ought to try watching a Lars Von Trier flick sometime. And he calls himself a rebel.
Alas, I have too many palms and not enough face.
Content Concerns:
Sex: One near kiss.
ROFL
This is a remake of an episode from the original series; like many remakes, it's inferior to the original. While this one has its moments, some disturbing content--especially implied sexual relations between Data and a human woman--messed this up for me. The language was actually rather clean...until the last scene or two; then they fouled it up.
Content Concerns:
Sex: Implied sex between a male-type android and a human woman; Data is stopped short before making a crude joke. 2/5
Nudity: A woman is seen wearing an outfit that displays her midriff, her back, and a bit of the lower part of her chest. 3/5
Language: Four or so d-words; one or two h-words; two or three misuses of God's name. 2/5
Violence: Sci-fi action violence throughout. 3/5
Drugs: It is said that the reactions that the crew has are like being intoxicated. 4/5
Frightening/Intense Scenes: Plenty of emotional intensity; the ship nearly gets destroyed; Geordi is seen without his visor. 3/5Score: 3/5
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@dgw (FYI: You've written a total of 1,087 reviews (80,826 words) for a total of 335 Likes.)
Riker calls for emergency attention from security, so who shows up? Worf, with Geordi. Neither has a phaser. La Forge isn't even part of the security division—at this point in the series, he's the helmsman. But Dr. Crusher happens to bring along a phaser when called to a medical emergency onboard the ship… because that makes sense. (We'll try to ignore how Worf and Geordi play along with Admiral Quinn's lies about what happened to Riker. That's also bad.)
That chair Remmick is sitting in looks an awful lot like the one used for Admiral Jameson in "Too Short a Season". That's because it was the same prop, redressed.
Not a nitpick, but doesn't fit into the review proper, either: I had no idea Captain Rixx was a Bolian. This is the first appearance of the species in Star Trek, and I guess I'm used to the later makeup design—which uses a much more saturated blue. Bonus trivia: The Bolians were named after Cliff Bole, who went on to direct a total of 42 Star Trek episodes across TNG, DS9, & VOY. He also directed on numerous other well-known shows like MacGyver, The X-Files, Baywatch, and Charlie's Angels.
Some background information on what was happening in the television world at the time explains why this episode wasn't as good as you might think it should be. After all, it's clearly meant to be a taut thriller about the possibility of Starfleet being seized by aliens. It's obviously meant to be part of a larger story arc—that started several episodes back, when Quinn gave Picard that warning.
The writers' strike of 1988 was ultimately responsible for this letdown. This "Conspiracy" plotline was meant to be intertwined with the Borg, who were to be introduced at the start of season two. But the writers' strike delayed the rest of the Borg storyline several months, and this piece of it was dropped. That's why nothing ever comes of the "homing beacon" Data reports.
It's too bad. Aside from it being entirely too easy for Picard and Riker to win against the "mother creature" (in Remmick's body), I enjoyed this one. It's not perfect, but "Conspiracy" as part of something bigger would have been better than what ultimately happened: treating this like any other incident-of-the-week—essentially, pressing the "big reset button" and pretending like these events never occurred.
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@dgw So no one source in particular, I see. I started Star Trek when there was no internet so books, documentaries and even convention visits where my main source of info. Much easier today now. I am surprised that even after decades I still find bits and pieces I didn't know.
Really enjoy reading your comments - keep them coming.
If you're gonna put a sequence in slow-motion, maybe film it with a high frame-rate camera?
Fun episode, but goodness are there a lot of technical plot goofs. Stuff that people who actually work on oil wells wouldn't miss. And I'm still trying to figure out who owns the land rights, since MacGyver's friends say their "lease" is up soon. Wouldn't the mineral rights (and therefore the right to extract oil from the property) go to the lessor, not the lessee?
It was neat to see Nana Visitor in this role seven years before she walked into Deep Space Nine's operations center, but I do wish the writing had left her a bit more to chew on instead of just "oh, what would I do if my man died?" That sort of one-dimensional female character is unfortunately very '80s (pre-2000s, if we're being honest), and MacGyver so far has been pretty full of them. I think the most fleshed-out female character in the show up to this point was the young girl in 1x03 "Thief of Budapest"…
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@dgw The absence of a high-speed camera is downright professional compared to their "breakdown" on the way back from the strip mine. Did no one on the writing staff know enough about automotive design to realize that if the "Lincoln" spring (is that even a term? I've always just heard it called the throttle return) broke the failure condition would be WOT (Wide Open Throttle, a/k/a "Pedal to the Metal") rather than loss of idle? Or did they just not want to use up that piece of plot tension up so soon, preferring to save it for 60 seconds later when there's a shallow creek around to arrest their momentum after the brakes give out?
Rewatching this show on Amazon Prime Video has been enjoyable, partly because it's made me feel lucky to have been a kid when MacGyver was on the air. Even more than being entertaining, it was inspirational to me back then, providing an image of a guy who could be a nerd without also being a "wuss." If this show had started airing even three or four years later I might have started seeing through their story/science gaffes and found it too corny for me to use as fuel to becoming an engineer myself.
[7.3/10] You know, it’s a shame that the show more or less stopped giving Shirley that much to do, because she’s such a treat in the early going here. The way that she and Jeff bond over gossip, get in too deep, but hilariously rag on Vaughn is a hoot from start to finish, and it’s packed with some real pathos of Jeff trying to be a good friend to Britta and Shirley being unable to resist her natural pot-stirring nature. Their friendship is an interesting one, and I wish the show had explored it more outside of this and foosball.
I am, as is my wont, less into the Jeff/Britta will they/won’t they stuff, but Vaugn is a great comic creation. The actor does a great job at making Vaugn both inherently ridiculous but so earnest in his faux-hippie lifestyle that you feel bad for him when he gets his feelings hurt. His triple greeting and propensity to take his shirt off are great gags, but when he says silly things like “this is the least tight thing that’s ever happened to me” or “some worries” it manages to be both absurd but also contains just enough pathos to make it land.
Then you have the great story of Annie roping Troy and Abed’s into Prof. Duncan’s waiting game experiment. It’s a great outing comedically, as Duncan’s Britishness and petulance come to a head at the same time Troy’s childlike extravertedness does. But it’s also really the start of Annie and Abed as a pairing, and the understated meaning in Abed sitting through all that just because Annie said she was his friend hits the same mixture of prettytouching and a little insane that is the fuel this show runs on.
Last but not least, there’s Pierce, who’s to the side and mostly inoffensive here with his “ear-noculars” that actually come into play!
Overall, another good outing early in the show’s run.
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@dgw I deleted the extra one. Thanks for the heads up!
[7.4/10] The A-story here is a little Chang-heavy for my tastes. I know he’s supposed to be annoying/terrible, especially early on, but his jerkassery and racism makes me really just want him off my screen. But I like it as a Jeff story. Jeff hangs out with Chang to soothe his Spanish teacher after a marital separation and reap the benefits of exemptions from Chang’s draconian assignments, only to realize that he’d rather reunite Chang and his wife and get everyone in class off the hook, than have to continue being Chang’s friend just to reap those rewards. It’s a nice instance of Jeff “kind of” doing the right thing for the group.
The B-story, with Troy and Abed trying to recover their lab rat despite Troy’s rodent-phobia’s is a lot of fun. I like the emotional throughline of Troy having to learn to make sacrifices for his friends rather than the other way around, and the American Tail references worked for me hook line and sinker. Plus, Donald Glover’s line read for his remark about Abed dropping the subject was hilarious. It’s a good physical comedy/noise-making episode for Glover in general.
The C-story was good too! It’s rare that we get a Pierce/Shirley story at all, let alone one that doesn't just devolve into sexual harassment. Pierce’s public speaking tips are fun, and the pair have a good comic energy. Shirley embracing Pierce’s tips at the end, right down to a hilarious “Heeeeeeere’s Brownie!” reference, and succeeding, was a good beat.
The more marginal stuff in the episode is all good too. I like the running gag about Pierce thinking Jeff’s ability to get laughs comes from his chair. People pointing out Jeff’s fake outrage and argument tactics is superb. The Dean’s “go green” efforts are a hoot, right down to the “This better not awaken anything in me” line. And the montage that connects Chang’s salsa dancing, Shirley’s presentation, and the meaningful “Somewhere Out There” duet is very well done.
Overall, too much time with Chang, but otherwise a very nice episode.
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@dgw It's one of the better Pierce side-stories I think, if only because, in the end, it's about him helping someone instead of just being a crass jerk.
The way this episode brings together a bunch of characters from different previous episodes feels so rewarding. That's the thing that used to always make Stargate stand out so much for me compared to much of the Star Trek shows, the sense of continuity and consequences. It's great to see Ska'ara again (I wish the show had used him more) and the return of the Nox with Lya. Plus, we get to see the cool new Tollan homeworld which looks suspiciously like a university campus! It works, though.
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@dgw Stargate would throw in call backs to the smallest little things from previous episodes. I always loved it, the characters grew and learned and talked about what they had been through before, and it added so much more meaning.
Poor Laurel, this is all so emotionally tormenting for her. Good episode and ready for Oli to return.
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@teenwolfpack She needs to be someone else...something else!
I hope to God Felicity is dead or dies!!!!!!!!
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@witter56 Must hate women in general. Shut up
Great episode! We get to see how much Snyder has changed with a completely unexpected murder and subsequent explosion to take Kynes out. We're also finally getting confirmation that Kynes is running a resistance operation with the outliers.That opening sequence also tends to support the theory that the war the outliers are being prepared for is already underway, meaning that the enemies of the hosts are already on the ground, an idea that popped up after the spaceship crash witnessed by Will and Snyder and the weird building Amy and Broussard passed on their way North. Or maybe it was just a training camp, maybe it's not on earth?
We're getting very close to the end of the season and this episode sets up interesting threads, which makes me regret that the Seattle story took so long to emerge into something coherent, something especially weird because it began mid season.
I'm afraid we won't have time to see the whole thing unfold and the season will end on a butter cliffhanger. I would have gladly sacrificed the whole Seattle ellipsis and the Bram storyline to make room for it.
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@odrel Agreed. Bram literally serves no purpose in this show haha.
The shuttle that takes the device from Earth to the waiting Krill ship is numbered ECV-197-1, matching the Orville's shuttle. The question is, is it really one of the titular ship's pods or is it the result of lazy VFX work? Personally, I lean toward the latter; another pod numbered ECV-197-1 is clearly visible in Orville's shuttle bay when the Kaylon pod docks about halfway through the episode, and in later scenes. (Looking at you, Defiant. It's the Sao Paulo all over again.)
I am frustrated by how shallow this episode seems, despite its attempts to seem deep. Getting too far into it would be major spoilers, but let's just say there are a lot of ships critically damaged or destroyed in this episode that go completely unacknowledged. The cynic in me says that "you know why" there's only one casualty we seem to care about. Maybe the next (and final?) episode will address the rest.
Maybe.
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@dgw Arguing minutia, and focusing on the fighter pilot deaths, I don't think Ensign Asian (Eric C. Sun's character is never named) was a member of the Orville's crew. The Orville was assigned a single Pterodon, and LaMarr was flying it. The others in his formation presumably came from their respective ships. So those ships (assuming they didn't a splode) are the ones holding funerals for those officers. And Union Central would most likely be honoring entire ships lost.
Yeah, this episode was intentionally superficial compared to the others, like one of the many "space battle" episodes of Deep Space Nine during the Dominion War. There were at least 100 people on each of those Miranda-class ships that kept popping like balloons. But it was necessary to show things at an interstellar level for once. I imagine next week's episode will be similar.
As for the reuse of digital assets, The Orville is no better than any other TV show trying to stay within budget. The DS9 finale also made teenaged me upset with all the lazy reuse of CG. The thing that irks me the most about this season of The Orville is how everything magically juuuuust fits in that shuttle bay.
I really really REALLY wish the show doesn't steer into The Walking Dead direction. All I want is creatures and intense edge of the seat scares.
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@typongtv The game wasn't mainly about the creatures, so I doubt the show will be. Maybe watch Silent Hill instead?
Enver Gjokaj (Lukka) looked so familiar, but I couldn't place him. Turns out he also played Victor, one of the main Dolls in Dollhouse, which I watched so long ago that my memories of it are hazy at best. (It's probably time for a rewatch.)
I didn't notice until this episode that Andre is Theo Huxtable—both played by Malcolm-Jamal Warner. Would never have figured it out on my own; I just happened to glance at the guest-star credits as they zipped by this time.
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Andre is Theo Huxtable—both played by Malcolm-Jamal Warner.
The writers threw in a small joke about this in the first episode Warner was in. Jeff tells him he's wearing a nice sweater, and Andre says, "It was my dad's." It's a very Bill Cosby-esque sweater.
This episode was confusing af. And not in an enjoyable way.
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@the_argentinian Art and subjectivity are so weird. This to me felt like the best and least confusing episode of the show (I'm only up to here). That's not to say I know what is going on, exactly, but I feel more comfortable with the characters' motivations within the show's framework than I have at the end of any other episode.
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VIP10[8.5/10]
Hurley was on the TV in Secretary Han's house? What? This show is playing the long game.
The one scene I don't know quite what to do with is the one between Sun and Jin when Sun breaks into English talking to him. I'm just not sure if the character was really speaking English, or if that was a production choice to make her emotions clearer for the viewer by removing the abstraction layer of subtitles. Other than that, I loved this episode!
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@dgw >Hurley was on the TV in Secretary Han's house? What? This show is playing the long game.
Yes it was, which makes how quickly it was thrown together in January 2004 to make the September 2004 pilot season air date all the more impressive. They went to Hawaii with only the pilot's script "mostly" written, a cast of actors whose schedules weren't committed to the other fall 2004 pilot season shows, and the fuselage of a decommissioned airplane. It's no wonder Lloyd Braun was fired for approving this show; a massive gamble that Disney/ABC couldn't back out on after everyone got to Hawaii and the money was already spent. So, might as well go all in.
That this show even had such an incredible pilot episode was a minor miracle, let alone such well fleshed-out first season with episodes that were devised after filming began on the first episode.
I definitely thought that Nyx somehow knew her brother killed himself, based on how she was crying, curled up in her quarters, at the end of the last episode. Guess the writers didn't realize what they implied. Or maybe, she's in denial.
Some very nice character development for Devon here. What we learn of his past turns out to be a bit on the cliché side, but that makes it no less valid as a motivator for his drug addiction. I look forward to finding out more about him, assuming that, because we don't see him die from the stab wound at the end of this episode, he'll be around for at least a while longer.
Those special transfer pod outfits are a neat dodge of a number of issues, on multiple fronts. They avoid: having to find a way for the characters to get clothes in the facility; depicting an underage female† in the nude; implying that said underage female is nude with grown men; and a generally awkward sequence that wouldn't add anything to the plot.
There is a small plot hole, though: Alicia Reynaud orders her techs to pick a transfer pod at random and send a charge to "fry [the occupant's] brain". But apparently it never happens, as in a subsequent scene her apparent lieutenant says they should "just send the charge and end this" but she says no. Interesting oversight on the writers' part.
Given Five's display of skill here, she'd make an absolutely fantastic pen-tester. If she was a real person on Earth in 2016, she could probably get a job at any tech or security firm she wanted. And I certainly wouldn't mind learning a thing or two about security from her. Even just running into her at a conference and chatting for a few minutes would probably lead to some important, useful lessons. Her grasp of space physics ain't too shabby, either. I've always liked Five as a character, and I really love that this show includes such a brilliant girl! Way to flip the script on the traditional male STEM whiz-kid archetype. Actually, now that I really think about it, she's a lot like a girl version of Wesley Crusher—whom I did not hate, unlike so much of the Star Trek fandom.
Speaking of Star Trek, it's neat that the description of how FTL drives work in Dark Matter nicely matches the theoretical physics of warp drives. None of that hyperspace bullshit that so many other sci-fi franchises try to throw around. It's refreshingly simple, as is the description of Blink Drive and its temporary wormhole–based operation.
And on a completely personal note, I've worked in at least two theaters that have identical (or nearly so) metal chairs as in Alicia Reynaud's detention room. Those square frames with three closely spaced vertical flat bars in the middle of the back are pretty distinctive.
† — Five is canonically a teenager, probably around 15-16 years old, from the sources I can find and recall from watching the show so far (though the actress portraying her is 21).
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@dgw Wow, thanks for the taking the time to point these things out – very interesting and much appreciated! :)
Creative and enjoyable, with a pleasantly weird alternate-universe/time-shift aspect that never becomes too complicated to follow. It leaves you with the odd feeling of having seen the Voyager crew die, but never really being sure if they were our original crew, or whether that even matters. The exact same thing happens to Harry that happens to O'Brien in DS9's 'Visionary', in that we are left with a version of the character who isn't exactly our own one.
It was also good to see the Vidiians back to being pretty decent bad guys again. There was something chilling about the way they just assessed unconscious people by which organs they could harvest from them. Janeway was a bit of a badass in regards to the solution to getting rid of them.
Having the duplicate Janeways standing so close to each other during their scenes made it look like they were about to kiss, and really made me aware of how shows had to work within the 4:3 aspect ratio back then. I felt a bit more let down that the two versions of Kes didn't really interact with each other at all.
I got quite wrapped up in the ordeal of Ensign Wildman finally having her baby, which certainly ran through a gamut of emotions! Chakotay was as useless as ever, and I noticed that Voyager didn't require his authorisation to concur with setting the self-destruct - I guess Janeway changed that because she knows he'd just mess it up.
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@dgw I can't remember what I did yesterday, let alone the contents of a review I wrote months ago! :p
This episode is mislabeled as it is about Coach's daughter and nothing to do with Sam's women.
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@wurlitzer28 Coach's daughter is Episode 5. You must have been watching that.
Worst episode of the season so far.
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@dgw
My bar of 'worst episode' in this show isn't that low. Yet.
I think I might just prefer season one of The Orville to season two.
Every episode lately feels like it's own short story, too much so.
We had two episodes in a row that dealt with dating someone in a situation where romantic feelings might be deemed unacceptable socially.
And we don't see as much of the captain. In season one, it was more centered about his struggles. Now he's seen as much as everyone else. But that said, this was a good episode.
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@dewdropvelvet I actually like that it's not the Captain Ed show as much in Season 2. But I do agree about the constant romance drama like there's other types of drama out there.
A decent enough episode and would have given it 7/10 but being it has Clara FINALLY killed off/leaving the show(hopefully there won't be a gimmick to bring her back one last time with the stasis machine or something other before the season ends) I have decided to give it an 8/10. Such an awful companion imho.
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Huh? what was wrong with Clara? This whole season on the other hand has been sub-par :E
I swear an episode in season 4 implied that Bra'tac had been killed. Somewhere along the way I must have misheard a line of dialogue.
Update: It was "The Serpent's Venom", in a conversation between Teal'c, Rak'nor, and Terok. It's from when Terok says, "Not even Bra'tac lasted this long," and later, "He did die, Teal'c." So it wasn't misheard dialogue; it was misleading dialogue. I didn't quite pick up on the "interrogation intimidation" vibe.
Any episode that continues expanding on Teal'c and his deep backstory is a great one in my book.
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@dgw I thought the same thing about Bra'tac. I wonder which episode it was and what was actually said. Happy he is still alive. Tony Amendola is wonderful.
did I miss something, why is Glenn stepping down?
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@abstractlegend this is a month and a year later, but its because he wants to spend more time with his new born
I don’t get it. Why they suddenly decided to make a clown out of Jake? He was a dorky type, yes, but this season (so far) it is so exaggerated.
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@yuurei when has he not been a clown haha
I have not missed Gina one bit this season. She lifts out surprisingly easily and her absence allows for more streamlined storytelling.
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Omg, I didn't even notice she was missing till I read this. No wonder I enjoyed it more, she had few redeemable moments and was mostly annoying.
