A good finale. I guess I did wanted a bit more of black and white in this show. The portrayals are great, the satire is good, but I think it needed just a bit less, just a bit less, of gray areas. Like, don't give any triumphant tone to a finale where all the rich people get away with everything.
Just to clarify, I think it's a great way to end, in a sour note, just make that sour note a bit more obvious (focus, soundtrack, etc), and not end with the liberating tone of the white kid going for his dream.
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@funger92 i guess the rich people getting away with everything and the workers being the only ones who suffer is indeed the triumphant finale. it's not a good conclusion but its what we have no? isn't that the world we live in today ?
what a great fucking show!! loved it so much for it's diverse viewpoints and no higher understand by the writers leaving it upto the audience to take sides like in IRL there is no black and white to situations and people make decisions based on what serves them best at the present influenced by their past determining their future. over-all this show was LIT!!! 11/10
LOVE THE THEME SONG ❣❣❣
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@afterkush im obsessed with the theme song too
Actually a great episode. I rather see Oliver chained and tortured throughout. Than hear Felicity's voice. So it was a nice change lol.
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@jim222001 Its one thing to complain about too much Felicity like season 4 wich i totally hated, another thing is too be a little cry baby because she had like 3 lines.
You know what, fuck this show, and the writers, and the poorly written plot and overused plot twists! What the hell happened to this show, it had so much potential, how did they let it get this bad? Not sure if they got renewed for s4, but I doubt I'll be watching it. I'm done.
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@valkyrja i agree with you, it just slipped, this season was really bad and it made me loose interest. The writting is VERY POOR, like really bad.. but yeah it has already been renewed for some weeks now so we'll see. The writters are probably gonna catch up on season 5 just like it happened with Arrow
The supernatural doc style is ruining it
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@takox Honey u aint everybody
Jesus! This show is getting worse episode after episode. This last one is terrible.
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@iuriscotton I know right, i always loved the flash but this episode is just reslly really bad im auffering through it
Anyone else noticed that when Cuba Gooding Jr's character is watching the break-in on his phone, the TV is showing the OJ car chase? Appropriate
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@jorah-the-andal i did think of that too! So clever
The player piano in the new 1920s park was playing Bad Guy by Billie Eilish :joy:
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@nescobar-a-lop-lop if that's all that you had to say better to just stay quiet
Shout by Jim222001
VIP6Pike saved Octavia more than once to try and redeem himself. Warrior Princess wannabe had to kill him anyway. She f'd one grounder so that makes her Xena ?
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Im happy that she killed him lol u cant redeem urself for killing someone
Of course Barry Allen’s daughter likes girls and Oliver’s son likes guys. William is tied up in the future and throws out for no reason that he likes guys. How CW...
My reaction now is just “of course.” Definitely not as moving as when Alex came out in Supergirl. Since now everyone is gay on CW lol.loading replies
@jim222001 Originally in the comics Oliver's son was always gay so...
fyi if anyone is about to watch this, DO NOT watch it right after or while eating. i ate like seven meatballs before watching and hoooooly shit, regretting that decision sdghfjkgjhjgk.
overall, it was alright. the visual aspects + performances are great as always, but some scenes did not need to be as long as they were.
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@smarterperson do people really feel like vomiting just bc watching someone else do it? feels more like an automatic response to discomfort much like covering the eyes (when you're young) or feeling weird when watching a sex scene with someone by your side, the image is so unsettling, by societal standarts, that it would be scary if we remained unchanged and indifferent to it, making us the ones that are sick in the head.
allow yourself to be mad and rebel.
Guess I'm the only one who thought Tessa Thompson's acting was stale and boring... Much like the rest of the episode.
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@mansemat you do realize Tessa Thompson is playing a repressed host right?
The bad CGI really shows in this episode. What the hell happened?
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@abstractlegend they had a lower budget because season 1 didn't reach the hights the investers thought it would
Another great episode, although I did not expect such a gruesome opening scene from The Crown.
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@agent24 I share the same feeling. They have a warning on the episodes Diana does self harm but not on this..
An amazing story well told and everything but like... I realised I am not enjoying this at all.
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@thoroughmas because unfortunelly this is the real stuff, what we saw right here, this is reality, these will happened once and are happening again. i cannot express how well this series is made, showcasing what we did wrong once and are doing wrong again!!
The action and the fights keeps getting better and I love the way they build suspense from the beginning.
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@ashuk those shots always give me the urge to play Cities Skylines
So, they couldn't find or pay anyone to play the role of Frankenstein and gave it to David Anders??? He already had a role! Nonsense! And btw Victor was not blonde!!!
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@jim222001 he was a doctor that was taking care of Charming in the first episode of the show, so he was a doctor, after magic came to Storybrooke he became Doctor Frankenstein!
Yep they've gone and made Dorothy and Red Riding Hood lesbians.
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I don't remember the Red Riding Hood and Oz being love stories unlike Cinderella and others, so they were free to make them love whoever they wanted
So this is literally the same thing as in the beginning o season 1.. Someone wakes up in Wayward Pines and doesn't know where he is.
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Yes and its supposed to be like that, a new beggining. It was a smart move cause doind different wouldnt be possible
I don't understand why they have to put a black person as a leader or a wife for somebody everytime.
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@nicol1212 that's a lot of progress both for women and non-whites i'd say. 50 years ago we wouldn't have a women as a leader nor a portrayal of a mixed relationship.
I don't understand why the Palace has had such a scathing review of this series, it just makes them all seem so much more human.
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@anonymousse Didn't you learn from episode 2 that they dont like to talk about what goes on in the family, much less for someone else to make a tv show about it.
Review by ragreynolds
VIP7I really want to love this show, it has a lot of potential, but something just feels off.
The whole John storyline just feels very dull and generic, and Dream himself is kinda boring. I kinda liked what they were doing with the fight/challenge in Hell, but if we're being honest, it was kinda dumb. Why would Lucifer even start by saying "I am a direwolf" if she could have just said she was one of the better things right away? After that challenge happens once, it would never have to happen again because they'd very quickly find what can't be beaten. The little pep talk the raven gave Dream took me right out of the scene too - really not liking the voice actor at all.
Last thing I wanna say is that I feel that the show is constantly trying to have these sort of 'epic' moments. They have nice visuals and great music to create these moments. But the problem is, these moments haven't been earned. They fail to actually be epic or memorable because none of the characters are overly strong and we haven't had much reason to like any of them. The only character I've seen anyone really caring about was the female Constantine last episode - but it doesn't seem like she's going to be a big part of the show other than that one episode.
The show isn't bad, it's entertaining and an alright watch. But certain things in the writing are just preventing it from going from okay to good/great. Not sure if that's just because of the source material, or if it's because Netflix messed something up.
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@ragreynolds It's not a Netflix production, it's Warner Television
Review by jackal_uk
VIP10Queer as Folk for a new generation or an older generation looking at the past. Russell T Davies's new gay drama didn’t disappoint in it's first episode.
It covered all the usual RTD’s bases:
Humour
Sex
Darkness
Imminent tragedyThe story is the rise of the AIDs virus in London during the 1980’s which is very prescient for the 2020’s. It does feature some worrying parallels with 2020/21, even at this early stage of the series.
Olly Alexander didn’t disappoint in his first serious role and it will good to see more of him in future (not that there’s much more left of him to see after the first episode!).
Neil Patrick Harris also delivered an excellent and touching performance in both main aspects of the show with some excellent one liners and comedic moments, but also the darker elements.
Callum Scott-Howells also deserves mention for a very accurate portrayal of Colin. Someone who we've all been at some part of our lives and readily recognise in others. It will be interesting to see how his character develops.
Music wise it is spot on, the direction and photography also spot on. 1981 lives again (thankfully only on TV).
The urge to binge the lot is rising, but I’ll try to resist. Oh well, if you insist, maybe just one more.
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@jackal_uk How about you mark the spoilers as such?
What an asshole of a kid to try and out his gay teacher at a catholic school. Who raises a kid to do something that vile?
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@darksilver you know, society (religion)
Crisis on Infinite Earths...
5 different shows, but I only watch The Flash.
Gave up on Supergirl, Arrow and LoT. Never any interest in Batwoman.
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@phug dude can't you just watch the crossover episode from other shows ? interpret it as a big Flash episode divided by 5 LOL
If anybody is wondering, 10 Lire in 1958 were 0.14 EUR or 0.16 USD. Pretty cheap even for back then Lulù: come on, you're better than this.
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@branfi thanks for the info :)
This is a good season 1 of a great show. It's not my favorite show ever but, it's far more interesting than Outcast, Preacher, and Animal Kingdom. Glad I could binge watch this. I'll def be back for season 2.
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@teenwolfpack Outcast and Preacher were boring but i loved Animal Kingdom
I'm confused by that date. Is season two on brand-new or no
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@starbryte76 Yes season 2 is playing now on Channel 4 UK, only in 2017 on AMC
Review by Aniela Krajewska
VIP8This was a rollercoaster. Wow. It's hard to believe that they managed to squeeze so many plot twists and reveals into one episode.
I loved Caitlin's storyline. The one we got two weeks ago with her mom was so badly written it was laughable, but her interactions with Cisco and the rest of the team in this episode were pretty good. Cisco and Caitlin are my beautiful nerd babies and I will protect them at all costs.
I fully understand where Wally is coming from and you can hardly blame him for wanting to have powers. We'll see what will happen to him when he emerges from this weird cocoon thing.
Why do I have a feeling that Cecile's daughter will turn out to be important?
Shade was cool. It's kind of a pity that they wasted him as a decoy.
Julian is shady as fuck. There's definitely something going on with him, but I'm not sure what yet. I don't think he's Alchemy, that would be too obvious. Then again, Flash isn't exactly the most subtle show in the world, so it's possible.
Savitar looks absolutely sick, but I have no clue who he is or where he came from. Yes, I could look it up, but for me discovering what's going on along with the characters is part of the fun, so I'll just wait until they explain it on the show.
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@aniela-krajewska I also had the feeling that Ceciles daughter is gonna turn out to be something.
I go on, the sixth episode of this show has to be the most predictable writing scheme ever: 1x06 Enter Reverse Flash, 2x06 Enter Zoom, 3x06 Enter Savitar.
Another thing that is too obvious to be true is the fact that Julian was missing, not answering his phone, not going to work and with his mysterious girlfriend. Maybe he's Alchemy? One of his henchmen? Too obvious. Although last season it was the same, a new guy appears and immediately he's the bad guy
And what happened to Wally at the end? Unclear. He asking Barry why didn't he tell him he was a speedster in Flashpoint was absolutely ridiculous. Wally, you idiot, you all agreed that you didn't want to know about your previous life, you dumbass. However, I have to agree with Wally in one thing. Someone tells me now that I can have powers and become more than just a simple human and I'll take my chance. No doubt. Wally's little meltdown time was funny though: "Oh come on dad, Barry can screw up the timeline and I can't? Why dad? I want to screw things up too".
Can't wait to see what happens after that cliffhanger and Killer Frost. And we're just getting started!
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@vero-winchester It was actually Iris who asked why Barry didn't tell them Wally was Kid Flash, wich makes it even more stupid, like the writers were reminding us that they made a deal about not telling anything
