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Ahahhaa, Zsombi accidentally dropping a bombshell on Kori was AMAZING! :joy: I hope that will help hinder Kori's trust in Jani (and Vivi) and could get him (Jani) voted out instead of Anett. :fingers_crossed:
I also just love Kori in general, he really surprised me by helping Zsombor to climb up in the previous episode's challenge - even though it was a solo game, as we know -, he seemed to hang out with Anett, chilling instead of dancing when the tribe had that feast, and now he's gone to do some chore with Zsombi. Kori really does seem to hang out with some of the ex-Buhawi members because he genuinely likes them (unlike Simi - he may like them too, absolutely, but I think he was a lot more in it for a tactic). And now that I think about it, Kori does seem to have a lot in common with Anett and Zsombi in terms of personality: they're all kinda reserved observers, kind people, avoiding conflicts, only rarely even raising their voice... I dig these hang-outs of them! :blush:

I love how the youngsters all said "no" when Vivi asked them if they were gonna vote on her, but all tried to avoid the topic and give vague answers when she asked if they will vote Jani out. :joy: They didn't dare to lie to Vivi. :joy::hearts:

Lool, Simi passive-aggressively saying into Vivi's face that he's just curious how things will unfold regarding all past events, lies and betrayals. :joy: He played that super well with a straight face!

So sad to see Vivi go back to this ugly self of hers, pointing fingers at Anett and try to bring her down just to save Jani's ass. Too bad it won't help you. :slight_smile:
Okay, but I do like that Vivi explained her vote on Anett by saying that even though she (Anett) is surely a cool person in the "outside life" and they would probably befriend each other there, she is a strong contestant here. Not genuinely hating on Anett is nice of her. (Well, unless Vivi is only acting like that.) And Jani is also adorable for saying he's ashamed of himself for voting on Anett because it didn't come from his heart. :hearts:

By not interviewing Vivi alone mid-scenes, and by us not seeing/hearing her one-on-one talk with Tomi, I'm a 100% sure now that she'll do the right thing and fuck the dumb-and-dumber trio over. :wink:

AYYYY, THAT'S MY GIRLLL!! "In Vivi we trust" was my motto from last episode up until the big reveal - which wouldn't have come as much of a shock to Nóra for example if she would be able to use her tiny brain. :laughing: Vivi's facial expressions showed so much disgust whenever she talked to that trio that I'm genuinely surprised that not even the manipulator, Gergő himself didn't notice that something was off. Well, as Anett and Vivi put it: the hero-wannabe fell into his own ego's trap. :person_shrugging:

LOOOOLLL. The second Nóra loses Gergő, she's like "nope, I can't do this". Then she manages to describe not wanting to manipulate people in order to play this game because she's not like that... Could be true, yes, but the opposite is also true to her boyfriend. So she essentially described her undesired characteristics which apply perfectly to Gergő.
I'm all for women supporting women. That's why I'm saying that Nóra has to get out of that relationship asap and has to go to therapy. For an almost 30yo woman (well, she's more of a girl) to be this fragile and this weak mentally and emotionally... she's gotta work that out with a professional. That's not normal. The dependency and level of attachment she has for Gergő is not normal. Yes, you can love someone a lot. But the fact that she clings onto him whenever possible and can only open her mouth when he's there right next to her... Just nope. Go to therapy. Alone.

I love how those 4 stupid idiots thought that all of them sabotaging the team just a bit wouldn't be obvious... Well, you 4 immediately going away from the campsite right after that letter was already obvious, would even be for dimwits like you, so... :joy:

The funny thing is that all (remaining) 3 dumb-and-dumbers thought that they should stick to their very "not-"obvious plan of losing on purpose - but they didn't realize that Vivi will have none of it. She wants to win, she hated Gergő in their previous team too for backstabbing her and sabotaging that team too, so she will gladly join Tomi, Anett and Zsombor to vote that annoying-ass manipulator Gergő out. :joy::joy: The idiot trio's only chance would've been if they fought for the win, but they fucked this up royally.

Major kudos to Zsombor for dealing with Olivér's maniacal outburst as calmly as he did. Not fueling that monke, simply replying the bare minimum, and mostly just leaving him be. Olivér threw Tomi's age around that he helps out a lot, etc., now look at Olivér who's a lot older but on a mental level of an 8yo who doesn't get what he wants. :joy::joy: Biggest clown of this season.

I truly hope that Vivi is only bluffing with those 3 and she genuinely wants to kick Gergő out as soon as possible. She's smart. So unless she's playing by a really twisted logic (kicking the stronger people out and leaving those in whom everyone hates, just to reserve a sure ticket for herself in the endgame), then I believe in her judgement.

Oh, okay... then Kang really was trying to lock his lock around Pimfah's... Okay, cool, no worries... I'm just still confused af... I thought he was jealous because he wanted Sailom too, not because he wants Pimfah... (Which, again, doesn't make much sense since he's been treating her and looking at her as a friend up until last episode, sooo...)

Why is everyone mad at Sailom for not liking Pimfah?? Kang, the teacher (kinda, she's more worried about Pimfah), Pimfah herself (more sad than mad, but shhhh)... Like bro, ya can't control who your heart wants!

Kang dared to lie into poor baby Sailom's face?! BRO?! Even if he didn't feel love, he felt something. I get not wanting to lead on someone you're not interested in at all, but Kang has shown various signs of being at least a slightly bit interested in Sailom. Romantically.
Hence why he visited Sailom when he was sick. And cloth-bathed him. And did their project all night. Sitting close to Sailom.
Guy visiting Sailom, bringing him food and feeding him was :heart_eyes:!

Okay, well, khm... You see, I'm a wh*re for jealousy scenes done right, and these last few minutes... SHOOK ME. A bit. Just a bit. :joy:

Olivér once again proves his 50 IQ by saying "há' elborult-- na, kiborult a mécses" (sorry, too lazy to translate) without seeing anything wrong with that "saying". :joy::joy:

This time I genuinely think the Jarakay guys have it figured out: Zera could very well be in the middle of menopause. Or she really just loves to stir the pot that much. (I know people from both camps, and oh boy, Zera sure fits the criteria.) Even if it was her idea first and Attila just used it after hearing it from her, a simple half-joking, half-serious little comment (in a friendly way!) would've been enough, then she should've just let it go. I get that she's vocal about her opinions, but ruining the good vibes solely because some absolutely minor thing is bothering you is not worth it - should not be worth it.

Not the Jarakay men naming their boat Nokedli... :rofl:
Anett was so sweet when she was interviewed about it, and the way she (and Joe, too) smiled when she heard that it was named Nokedli... :heart_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

The Jarakay men goofing around (but Simi still plucking out Jani's eyebrows like a true bro :nail_care:) was adorable to watch! :hearts:
...Zera, on the other hand... Literally saying that she's disappointed??? That they haven't gone to a real spa??? Bro, istg. This woman reminds me more and more of my colleague (who is through menopause, as far as we know (an info against our will)) who just can_not_ fucking enjoy something or joke around with it but instead whines and whines nonstop. :weary:

A glance to the promo of the next episode made me calm seeing that there will be 2 new tribes from (our) next week on. That is only fair cuz from the moment poor Zsombi lost that duel to Wendy, it was obvious that those 4 cowards would intentionally want to lose the game for the totem and vote Zsombor (or someone of the 3 remaining OG Buhawi) out. I'm glad that the director(?) noticed it and was willing to change the dynamics.

I don't get why Anett and Tomi (and maybe Zsombi, but he said multiple times that he hates conflicts) didn't dare to oppose Gergő or help Zsombor out when they sat down and revealed Gergő and Nóri's relationship. When the 3 of them (Zsombor, Anett and Tomi) talked about this a bit later, they both agreed with Zsombor. So... why do they never take Zsombor's side and just stay quiet, leaving him totally alone in the "battle" against Nóri, and now Gergő? Only because they don't want to be on Gergő and Nóri's hitlist? Or because they don't want to partake in any type of conflict to not be on anyone's radar? Ehh...

While I don't necessarily agree with the choice of leaving Wendy out because of communication issues (although it does seem valid to do so), I certainly don't get why would Wendy suggest Zsombor immediately - other than the obvious reason that she doesn't like him. I'm not sure if she said any argument cuz I didn't hear any, but dude... like... She insists that she's intelligent, she just cannot prove it because they don't give her a chance to. But tiny glimpses like this one prove that no, she's not smart. She wanted to leave Zsombor out of a challenge FULL OF physical components, when Zsombor is the 3rd strongest guy out of the 5 (and he's probably stronger than all 3 of the girls - only Anett would stand a slight chance against him). Just because Wendy doesn't like Zsombor, she wanted him to not participate in the challenge. Smart, right? She is smart, right? :person_facepalming:

Zsombi saying bon appétit to the Jarakay tribe...! :heart_eyes: And Zsombor letting Gergő to hold onto his arm after his (Gergő's) cramp...! :relieved:
I think the cramp was genuine, you could see the pain on Gergő's face. However, I really hope that this will make him the target of the vote. (Though I could see some truce being made between him and Zsombor in the sneak peek, sooo...)

I'm kinda bummed about Emma, but I also know it was the right choice for the tribe. She showed a glimpse of her true power in the last game where she stood for the longest out of the 3 people from Jarakay, but sadly that wasn't enough. I think her biggest mistake was that she was so incredibly passive throughout these 9 days. Barely ever talking, hiding in the shadows. Not even on the day of the voting. I think she knew she was gonna go home - hence the bracelets to Zera and Viki -, and she just accepted it without talking to anyone to see where their head's at, or maybe even convincing them to not vote on her. This passiveness was gonna be her obvious downfall from day 1.

Lol, I'm gonna be an asshole, but I love how Nóri nor Wendy were even mentioned as possible participants for any part of the game. :joy::joy: Once again shows them how useful their team thinks they are.

It's really sad that Gergő took the route of playing with the blocks like a 90yo (as Jani oh so beautifully said), but it's a whole another level of sad that he had to play dumb that obviously to lose because Zera was actually, genuinely incredibly bad at it. :joy: I'll laugh my ass off if Gergő's "trick" will be all for nothing and he'll go to Jarakay at the end. :joy::joy:
I was sad for Karagatan on multiple occasions because of Gergő's bullshittery, but this one... this one takes the cake. Olivér, Jani and Vivi were so fucking awesome in their respective parts, they were first (or a really close second, idk), only for them to be fucked over, once again, but this time really not subtly, by Gergő. I totally understand and feel their anger and disappointment, and just hope for the worst in this game for Gergő and Nóri. :blush:

You know what I don't understand? Why apply for a game when you're a whiny, weak, dumb and so easily manipulated girl (cuz she's older than me but I sure as hell don't see her as a woman) with your boyfriend whose only role there is to be with you for moral support or whatever? If you're that weak on so many levels, just stay home and let those people have the opportunity who actually want to do this game, who are actually fit for it. Mentally, physically and emotionally. I see NEITHER of these 3 in Nóri.

Enough of these lowlifes though. Zsombi, MY BOY, ZSOMBI was amazing!! Truly the gamer, the logical thinker. I have no clue why Zera didn't just do the easiest and fastest way (that Zsombi chose, and I guess what Gergő would've chosen if he didn't throw) and just try every block's each side, every (main) angle one by one. It wasn't a game where you had certain amounts of tries, you could literally go HAM and speedrun it like Zsombi did. I hope this guy has earned some (more) respect from the others this way. :blush:

Brooo, hahahha, Zsombor was attentive enough to see the looks Nóri shares with Gergő, omggg! :laughing: How idiotic can Nóri and Gergő be to think no one would notice if they took glances at each other? Like bro, these 2 are living in their own little world and just ruin the game and the experience for everyone else with Nóri's uselessness and annoyingness, and Gergő's throwing.
Man, I really wish Vivi would've said "You fucked us over for Buhawi? Alright, then we'll go there with Jani, so your plan to join Buhawi can go down the drain". She's smart for figuring the Gergő-Nóri thing out (tho Gergő apparently wasn't smart mentioning his girlfriend's name and writing N-s in rocks like a teenage girl), and I truly hope she'll be able to use that info against them in the future.

I LOVE Tomi's choice of bringing Zsombor and Anett with him! I was already prepared for him to choose Wendy - and by her death stare, I think she was sure of it too :joy: -, but I'm so so glad that he chose Zsombor instead (Anett was evident for me). Tomi has grown in my eyes a bit. (He said his choice was not tactical, I don't fully believe that in the case of Zsombor, I'm still cautious with my opinion on him, but this, indeed, was a fair choice. Unlike Nóri saying Wendy did the most for the tribe. :joy::joy::joy: That was cringe af.)
Aaand there it is, he lied about it being not tactical. :')

I totally feel Vivi on this one, and - surprise, surprise - ever since she isn't hanging out that much with Jani (or at least not on camera), her personality and thinking process are much much more like at the beginning when I heard her talk for the first time and I was like "okay, I think I'll like her". Same goes to her as to Tomi - I'm being cautious with how much trust or sympathy I give her, but as of right now, she's alright.

Okay, so at the end of last episode, we knew which 2 tribes were gonna vote someone out. By the end of this episode, we still don't know who'll leave Jarakay. :expressionless:

Okay, yet again I wholeheartedly agree with Zsombor: this is a diplomacy meeting. Wendy doesn't speak Hungarian on a native level (duh, even some Hungarians don't :joy:). I get that she wants to prove herself, but ffs... choose any other challenge, physical or intellectual, just NOT where you have to use the Hungarian language.
I was surprised that literally no one voted for Nóri though. I would've given her the opportunity to prove herself this time instead of Wendy. I'd rather have a tribe member there who can speak Hungarian fluently than someone who cannot but kinda has good charisma. Zsombor was once again super raw and harsh, but I think he spoke the words everyone thought of: the other two tribes will laugh at them if they send Wendy, the only foreign person, to a meeting where you have to use the Hungarian language as your sword. (Or, well, since this is diplomatic, then... olive branch?)

It's funny how after the diplomacy meeting, Wendy said that she thinks the Karagatan tribe was honest and truthful, then just 10 seconds later Tomi said that they (the K. tribe) applied emotional blackmail and manipulation on them (Wendy and Tomi). :joy::joy: I'm sorry, witnessing all of the meetings, I'm not sure how would I have reacted either if I only knew one side (of the K. tribe's talking) and the other not, but Wendy's and Tomi's differing experiences might have just proved Zsombor's point - that Wendy just doesn't speak Hungarian that well to see the hidden meanings. Or she's just bad at reading people in general. :sweat_smile:

I love that they all played one of the other tribes, so now I literally do not know (I'm still mid-episode) who each tribe will pick. Well, since the youngsters did agree beforehand that they would pick Jarakay as their allies, I guess that's solved, but I have no idea about the others. I feel like the oldies are being played super hard. Especially if they're gonna get 2 votes. :') (I'm glad Zera noticed the body gestures though, like Vivi's intense stare and Gergő not even looking at them while speaking.)
I'd be really disappointed though if the youngsters would vote on the oldies. Firstly because they had such a cute bonding moment together, and even when Zera and Attila later told it to the J. tribe, they were all so adorable and smitten with "their kids". :cry::heart_eyes: Secondly, because, well... they fucking agreed to try to become allies with the J. tribe before they went on this meeting. And Wendy saying that she won't try to change Tomi's mind and is on board with the plan - only to then try to make Tomi vote against J. anyway... I think that says a lot about how much one can trust her word.

Oh. My. God. The first time Tomi disappointed me. Why?! Why TF vote AGAINST what y'all AGREED on with your mates???
AHAHHAHAA, Zsombor immediately realizing real lies with his real eyesss (or rather, ears)!!! :joy: Not gonna lie, I genuinely didn't think he's this smart, but boyyy was I wrong! To notice these patterns and behaviours, like that if what they said was true, Wendy would've most likely spoken a lot more... Duuude, this bloke is epic.

The youngsters playing in the water, having fun, building a tower out of the totems... bro, I couldn't be prouder of my generation! :laughing::heart:

Zera does have a truth in her words, however from her phrasing and "knowing" her personality, her intentions aren't pure either. It's not "the guys don't let us, women, speak", but rather "the guys don't let me speak". Which, I know, can be frustrating too, I'm not arguing otherwise. However, from what I've seen so far, Zera didn't have any mindblowing ideas or tactics. So it's not like "the men are dumb that they don't listen to the voice of reason". I'm still agreeing with her, that yes, everyone should have a say in what they will do, what the technique will be, but since Zera herself didn't remember/realize that they had to put the n1 barrel on the platform first, I'm not sure why is she so pissed that they didn't listen to her. That was their team's only mistake, and it was huge because NONE of them knew that they should put the barrel first.

I was super surprised how Zsombor told his raw, honest opinion about Nóri and Wendy. I wholeheartedly agree with him (though I most probably would've tried to deliver it less harshly like Tomi did), and it's so sad to hear Nóri deflect these "allegations" and instead blame Zsombor and overall the boys. Yeah, they're not buff bulls like Jani or Kori, but for their fitness levels (especially the gamer boy, Zsombi) they are doing really well. Nóri and Wendy are deadweights in this team. Sorry to put it this harshly, but it is what it is.

Also, I just remembered... Didn't Emma say she trained for this show for 6 years? That's one thing that she passed out at the beginning - that can happen to anyone -, but she willingly steps out of the games. Aren't the games a core part of the Survivor experience? Then why rob yourself of that? She's far from the strongest, she's far from the smartest (or at least she hadn't said any good ideas out loud yet), she doesn't participate in the games, so... what were all those years of "training" for?

(Sad English comment on a Hungarian series)
Bro, I would be FUMING if I were on team blue, knowing what the viewers know. Like imagine having a teammate who, basically from day 2, SABOTAGES the team because tHe LoVE oF hIs LiFe is on the other team. I didn't like his previous comment either (if he had to choose between loyalty to his gf and loyalty to his team, he'd choose his gf in a heartbeat - super romantic (:face_vomiting:), but still fucking over his teammates who are innocent), and now this... Dude, if you can't put aside your relationship in a game... no, rather if you apply for a game from your own free will, knowing that you'll most probably have to play against your gf (who also applied from her own free will), PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY.
Even in gaming, I'm so pissed at (mostly) kids who start to throw because of petty reasons, but man, this is a whole another level. Them being all lovey-dovey was annoying af already (which is cringier than puppy love cuz these people are 29 and 32 yo), so now I can't wait even more for the teammates to realize they have been hindered with by the loverboy.

Zsombor's worst-case-scenario being him crying from the pain or feeling sick cuz he "can't allow that to himself" makes me shake my head in disbelief so fucking much. I cannot believe that from team yellow, the fucking 22yo, the youngest(!!) is the most mature and logical one. Almost all of that team is a mockery of my generation. (And yes, I wouldn't be able to do all these tiring games, be on the lvl heatstroke sun, eat minimal food, and sleep badly. But since I know my limitations, I'm not even thinking about joining Survivor. I do have the mental strength, I believe - which Zsombor obviously doesn't, if crying is his worst nightmare -, and I also have the brains to know that my body couldn't handle this environment.)

The youtuber guy, however, is still a mystery to me. Sometimes he's really level-headed and says things that suggest that he's mature enough to think like that, and other times he seems like a typical gamer guy with no irl skills. (I'm sorry, I know this is harsh, but I genuinely hope he'll break the gamer stereotype.) Like forgetting the fucking fire-maker device in his pockets when going swimming. :joy::joy::joy:

So uhh... Iván really deducted all of that bs about Patrick after he took the fall and blame for the things Cruz did, even making the painful decision to let his love go after he realized he acted kinda foolishly? Patrick literally admitted his mistake, yet all Iván concludes from all this is that Patrick is selfish? What?? Not to mention Iván not seeing anything wrong with kissing Isa, his friend, ON THE MOUTH, just a few minutes after calling himself Patrick's boyfriend? Two words: good riddance. Hope Patrick can find a decent guy next time. (He'll most likely end up with Iván again, I know, but a girl can dream. :person_shrugging:)

On the other hand, the best boi award goes for Dídac for not just considering Isa's words that he may not know his childhood friend that well after all, but also going out of his way to get the truth out of Javi, record it, show it to Isa (and Sara), apologize to her for not believing her, and offer to throw his guilty (ex-)friend in front of the bus without any hesitation - because he believes that justice should be served. This is how people should be. :muscle:

So uhh... after 4 months of literal nothing, no contact whatsoever, one day they just go back to the way they were? Without talking about the past 4 months?

Those "endings" were really cringe and so useless that I kept skipping through them. They don't connect to the real story in any way, and they're not funny or interesting at all. This episode has been made unnecessarily long with these filler scenes and by stretching out the pre-meeting, depressed scenes as well. And breaking the 4th wall even with the "final" ending... eh...

Oookaaayy, breaking the 4th wall even more with the final final ending... Not a fan of that tbh. Pretty weak ending, it would've been so much better 1) without the Disney scenes, 2) without including the series' author in the story, and 3) with less stretched scenes at the beginning of this episode.
I would've liked to see a happier ending for Aey, not to cry and be depressed alone in his condo after pretending to be totally okay on his live. I would've loved to see Tiffy and Tum in more scenes - regarding their relationship and their business/agency together(?). Like I mentioned earlier, the change was too sudden for me when SibGene went from 4 months of 0 talk to kissing and loving each other from one day to another. I know their love probably never faded during those 4 months, but let's be real, their meeting should've been awkward at first, or at least include some talking and catching up.

So yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in this final episode, but overall the series was really refreshing. Gene's actor's acting really got me quite a lot, he did a great job portraying anxiety, depression and negative emotions/feelings like confusion, guilt, regret, etc.
This might sound weird but some of the scenes in this show really made me think about my own life, the problems and issues I have to deal with, so it was hard to watch the episodes sometimes. But I'm glad I did.

I'm glad they included both the delusional fans and the egotistical celebrity (Aoey with the "pity me" IG live) - there are a looot of those in late years. That's why I have 0 interest of becoming famous. Just the thought of your "fans" stalking you and acting like paparazzi, or them wanting to have a say in every aspect of your life, especially your romantic and family life... brr... Or if you're happy with your SO and another celebrity makes that situation all about themselves (like Aoey is doing here)... Ugh.

Okay, I take back what I said about Tiffy. Why tf is she blaming Tum for all this? He's not even involved :person_facepalming: I'm really not happy with this show's plot in the past few episodes. I praised it so much for being realistic and having not braindead characters, but I guess they couldn't avoid going back to ye ol' Thai BL roots of ridiculous scenes...

I get Gene's point, but why say "Let's end it" to Sib? Like they literally live right next to each other, they can meet and hang out at home anytime they want after Sib's shootings. Sure, the production crew may demand more drastic measures (like actually making them break up), but realistically speaking, they still live 2 meters away from each other, so it's not like the crew can actually make them fully break up without any contact. That's why I don't get Gene "wanting" to end things with Sib. Well, if it's for his (Gene's) own mental health, then yeah, I totally get it. I'd overthink and have a shit ton of negative feelings too if my boyfriend would be known to be in a relationship with someone else, even if I was 100% sure that said boyfriend only has feelings for me.

Oh, for a minute I thought Gene packed his things then changed his mind and went to Sib's condo... But apparently Sib was in Gene's condo, and Gene just left...?

Yess, another great little detail that shows this drama is a lot more realistic than other BLs! Tell me, how many times have they had one of the main characters admit that they were in a relationship with other people before reuniting with their true love? Most of the time they say there were a lot of people interested in them but they could only think of and wait for the one to come back... :rolling_eyes: Sadly life isn't like that. There's a really big chance you lose someone forever when they step out of your life (or you step out of theirs), so it's a lot more realistic for Sib to try being in a relationship with other people because of the uncertainty of not meeting Gene ever again.

It was weird that when Sib's brother asked Gene directly "So are you two together?", Gene answered "Not yet" so calmly and normally. So either the translations were a bit off somewhere (cuz in the previous scenes Gene was really concerned to keep this bro-bro image of them in front of Nueng) or simply Gene's reaction here had no visible development whatsoever. It really felt like they talked about this with Nueng before but that wasn't the case.
Wait, then he goes back to saying there's nothing going on between him and Sib? Whaat?

Awww, Tum walking up right next to Tiffy like it's the most natural thing ever :heart_eyes: I really-really love their chemi!
OH, and was that yet another shade by Tiffy when she said all BL actors' managers argue? :joy: I'm sensing sad AePete vibes...
Umm... Tiffy? What? Why??

Oh no, please don't make this into a ransom kinda thingy that Aoey made Sib drink a lot (or he himself decided like that) and now Aoey is gonna make a move on Sib unless Gene comes and saves him from Aoey... :person_facepalming:

OH, them not being blood-related makes things a loooot less complicated... :laughing: With these Asian ways of calling random people "aunt" and such, I got confused and thought they were actually related, especially since they had a family (well, "family") picture too... Then Sib only didn't tell Gene about them knowing each other from the past - it's way better to forget a person who you were quite tight with in your childhood / teenage years than to forget your own fucking cousin. :joy:

Okay, first of all: why do you ask the child if he's still mad when you still haven't apologized for leaving him alone? Like... why do you expect him to be all okay with everything when you can't even say sorry?
Second of all: in one of the past episodes, I scanned some text messages on my phone because the subtitles were off, and for Sib's name it said "count to ten". Now in these flashbacks (even though the subs say "Nubsib"), people are calling Sib "Sib". So I wonder if he changed his nickname to Nubsib (= "count to ten") after this hide-and-seek game?

Hahaha, I definitely see myself in Gene sometimes :joy: Like when he said that Sib has to prove that he actually means what he's saying, that he shouldn't have this good boy act, just say what's on his mind - but at the same time when it's too much, he's like "OKAY, THAT'S ENOUGH" :joy::joy: I'm looking forward to Sib finally acting normally in front of Gene, and please, for the love of God, drop the "Khun" (~"Mister") when you address him, Sib!

It's a breath of fresh air watching an Asian series without cliffhangers at the end of the episodes. I think it was only the last one which had a cliffhanger, but these calm, closure-like endings are much-much better imo.

Eyy, a pansexual in an Asian BL, let's gooo! :star_struck:

Did... did I just see OhmToey when that woman was googling LGBT? Bro, my feels :sob: I miss them so much...

OH. Well... This blood relation plottwist is definitely uhh... unique for Thai BL. Idrk what more to say on this matter, like... Did Gene's memory just wipe out Sib completely? Because he never once seemed to recognize him, not even Sib's (pretty unusual) name rang a bell for him? From those 2 little flashbacks, it seemed like they have been together since childhood, and especially if they're cousins(?), they should remember each other, wtf... :joy:
Dude, imagine the mental breakdown Gene had to suffer through not only to deal with himself liking/loving another guy but himself liking/loving his guy relative... Yikes...

I love when a character says "please, listen to me" or "I had a reason for that" but then doesn't say anything more... like dude... Gene was waiting for solid 2 minutes while you were looking into each other's eyes but you didn't say a word. Then when he moved away, you suddenly remembered you wanted to explain yourself (and didn't do it again)? :person_facepalming:

Also, where did Gene go? Cuz that room wasn't the same as when he stayed at his home-home, but he left his condo, so it's not like he just moved to another room in his own flat (plus that wouldn't have made much sense anyway :joy:)...

Aaah, yisss, I love me some strong women like Tiffy! :muscle:
I really like Tiffy&Tum's dynamics. They seem like fun-loving buddies who tease each other but there's also a deeply respectful and understanding side of them towards each other. If only the main characters would be like them in hetero series, I'd switch back to those :laughing: This series isn't the best, but I see some super strong development in the mentality of the directors/producers. The characters, their thoughts and interactions are much more realistic, there're a lot more boundaries and consents respected, and I LOVE to see this change! :smiling_face_with_3_hearts:

YESS, I wanted Gene SO BAD to say "me" when Sib asked "Then do you know what I like?" :laughing: That's the kinda chemi I'm all-in for! :muscle:

Aoey's family drama is a bit... uhh... bringing this show back to the cliché Thai BL plots... :sweat_smile: I'm curious how's Mhok related to the family tho, and what his relationship is like with Aoey in general. Because you don't just kiss a person you don't like just because your day was shit and you're heartbroken and angry...

Ooh, Aoey's actor's tearing-up at the very end was really good! I think that might've been genuine crying because it must be really hard to fake those kinda trembles on your chin. And judging by his "crying" scene at the family reunion (which was pretty bad), I think this one was a legit cry. :joy:

Aw, come on man, you can't leave us hanging like that...!

Aaand yet another shade thrown at the ridiculous sponsor scenes :joy: And also with faking kissing scenes, lol.

So, I'm a bit confused... Does Aoey like Sib or Gene? Because he kinda flirted with Sib when they were on that ceremony in the last episode, and I thought seeing the IG post about shipping Sib&Gene was about his jealousy towards Gene... but I remembered that he researched Gene's past novel and gushed about it in the past episodes and now too, so... Is he trying to make Sib jealous or is he out to get Gene? :sweat_smile:

What was that awkward scene with Tum being in the women's changing room? Maybe it's different in Thailand, but I don't think I've ever seen a men-only/women-only changing room in a shop. Especially if the little "rooms" are closed off with curtains/doors, why not make it unisex?

MY GOD, THAT SCENE-IN-THE-SCENE GAVE OFF THE BIGGEST SOTUS VIBES! :joy::joy: Omg, how much I loved that series...
As a side note: Sib's actor is so much better playing the hard-to-get, cold, tsundere characters (Kin) than what he plays now (Sib)... They didn't do him justice here. :sob: Not saying that Gene's actor is doing a bad job, he's actually quite decent. What I'm saying is that they basically put together two actors who're both good at playing cold characters but one of them has to play a kinda puppyish one, and the difference between Kao's Sib acting and Kin acting really shows.

Woah, wait, we're only at the end of episode 3, and they already spent almost a month living together? Welp, we didn't get many moments out of that...
Oof, that ending... I mean, I thought I knew all about avoidance anxious types, but I never would've guessed Gene would react like this just for being called cute (yes, he also had those flashbacks, but that's even more of a reason for him to want Sib to stay, no?).

Bryn... I miss the old SMTM times where it was actually about rapping and not just looks. Jamie was okay, but I didn't like Bryn's song at all. When she raps it's as if she was just raising her voice. No intonation, no melody or rhythm in the rapping parts, just... shouting, basically.
Aw yeeeah, Coogie! :heart_eyes: They did good with Donghyunie - but again, I'd love more rap in this show...
Aww, Choi LB and Suran with the umbrella, so cute! :heart_eyes: The song was alright, but probably not a winning performance for me.
Yaaaas, that's what I wanted! Young B with that badass beat from VJ - I'm sold! The beat, the lyrics, Young B's voice, Vinxen (first time actually seeing him even tho I've heard him mentioned lately, still dunno who he is :joy:)... everything was amazing. And the fact he was actually, visibly shaking right after his performance, aww... Shows how emotional he is behind that mask.
DONGHYUNIE GIVING A FLOWER TO CHOI LB :sob::sob::sparkles: This precious child, omg
Whooo, Magma was amazing!! Again, just like with Young B's performance: the beat, the main artist ('Nello), the featuring (Hangzoo), the power, the badassery... MY GOD. At first I was unsure about it when I heard the beat in BewhY's studio, but man, that drop... and that 'Nello (and later Hangzoo too) actually crouched in perfect sync with that drop... just pure blessing to my eyes.
Idrk what to think about EK's song... It wasn't bad, but I didn't like it that much either. The beat was good, Justhis was... well, f*ckin' Justhis, what else do you expect... :joy: But I never really liked EK's voice/rap, so probably that was the no-no for me.
Ehh... The only rap part saved Jjangyou's song. Again, loved his voice, loved the power in his voice, but this is a rap survival show, so maybe don't sing 90% of the song?
I don't really wanna write anything about Takuwa's song... I still hate his voice and "rap" style of random screams. The only good thing (aside from the okay beat) was Han Yo Han who was a big surprise as a featuring artist. :heart_eyes:

'Nello interlacing fingers and swinging hands with Donghyunie and Young B is too precious! :sob: Love these cuties.

The only elimination I don't agree with is Jjangyou's. I really don't think Takuwa deserves to be in the top 4. Or if I don't wanna phrase it too harshly, I'd rather say there are many people who would've deserved to be in the top 4 instead of him. (It still sounds harsh, but oh well... :joy:)

This Kao guy is a literal stalker. Thailand, please, stop romanticizing stalkers, thanks.

It's a breath of fresh air to have male characters who don't make a big deal out of liking another guy. How casually Kao mentioned it to his stepmom(?) and Solo to his friend - that's what I like to see. Maybe not this early though. Both of them started to like a guy after one encounter where they barely had any conversation (well, Kao apparently spied on Phu before, but yeah).
Solo's case is a bit different, he seems like a kinda depressed guy (which is also a wonderful new representation in Thai BL cuz we always see happy or grumpy characters but not depressed ones :rainbow:), and for depressed people, even the smallest act of kindness and caring can lead to attraction (that can be romantical or not).

Ah, yes, spreading malicious rumors about a guy who apparently doesn't mingle with anyone... so no outsider can prove that the rumors have even a slight truth in them.

Are we supposed to know those "doctors" from somewhere? I feel like if this is not a sequel of something, they shouldn't expect all viewers to know characters from a different drama... [Edit: Okay, nvm, it was just really badly phrased.] (And also, did he really check the guy's heartbeat to see if he has cold? I can also do nonsense things, where's my doctor's certificate then? :joy:)

Solo scratched his left arm, why is the bloody spot(?) on his right arm then? Also, Gui grabbing his arm was a bit too dramatic, lol.

Wait... did that peck on the cheek actually happen or it was just Solo's fantasy? :open_mouth: Either way, things are moving a bit too fast. They don't know anything about each other yet Gui leaves his home just to let Solo inside the café and make him warm milk, and Solo accompanies Gui back to his home...

Omg, seeing the two kid actors made me be so proud of them! They brought that "deep connection" vibe in less than 10 minutes.

OOOH, the air is already super hot between the guys in the present(er past)! I'm a sucker for (healthy) love-hate relationships, and Oh's actor was impressive from the beginning of his screentime (really natural movements and reactions), so I'm looking forward to the next episodes (and the remaining half of this episode :joy:) even more!
It's a bit cringe to watch Teh try to look like Oh and snap pics like his just because... umm... why exactly? Teh saw that Oh's score on the Chinese test was 9, his (Teh's) was 29, so why does he want to be like Oh now?

Oh no, now I ship Oh with Bass. Hard. They're just too cute together. I love the calm, peaceful and quiet atmosphere between them.

Those damn text messages cause a lot of editing fails... Or is it this bright at 6PM in Thailand? :joy:

There were some awkward silences filled with smiling and crying or just Teh being awkward by himself, but overall it was a pretty strong pilot episode. I've read some comments about the recent look of the story (may have a bad ending?) which I hope will not be true. Or if "bad ending" is Oh getting together with Bass, I'll take that anytime. :joy: Anyway, I'll continue to watch this since both the story and the actors seem promising. (And I didn't even talk about the actors learning/knowing Chinese! I don't speak it, just watched some Chinese and Taiwanese dramas, but they seem to have a good pronounciation.)

[Edit: name correction.]

Thanks, power outing, now I have to write the beginning of my comment again...

It's a great idea to involve SMTM fans with this new addition, and the chance that their beat can appear in the show is a great motivator + then the SMTM judges don't have to come up with beats themselves. Win-win.

Takuwa's voice is still annoying, but his confidence made his part better than Woodie's. Woodie sounded like he was out of breath a lot. But he was so adorable thanking even the backstage staff and bowing before them. :sob:
Punchnello didn't disappoint. Although the gap between the votes was huge, I understand it because Punchnello's energy and talent just shined so bright that it was an "obvious" choice.
Zene and EK's stage was a real one. True professionalism. The song was average, but how the guys behaved on-stage was awesome to watch. Personally I preferred Zene, but in this case I was surprised by the difference in the votes because it seemed to me that the two guys were basically on the exact same level everything-wise. I'm sad to see Zene go, he was such a refreshing and calming addition to the show this season. :c
Aw, the WYBH duo were cute, although the song itself was meh for me. I didn't like how Choi LB "said goodbye" to Seungmin, it was pretty rude professionalism-wise and friend-wise as well.
Hell yeah, YunB and Young B did a great job together! Their harmonization at the hook and chorus was superB! (Aww, Donghyunie gently taking off the confettis out of Young B's hair! :laughing:)
OMG, Bryn looks so gorgeous with the hair extension and these clothes! :heart_eyes: Mckdaddy was way better imo because Bryn was kinda shouting all the time... I know she wanted to sound fierce or whatever, but she overdid it a bit. Mckdaddy's rap was solid. I loved the beat and the concept, and I also loved how cute they looked/behaved together everytime, as if they were really an uncle-niece duo. :smile: I liked Mckdaddy, he was so respectful and a real underdog with talent for me, so I'm sad to see him go too. :c
Yunhway did an awesome job with their song, and although my choice would be Jjangyou rap-wise (because Yunhway didn't really rap at all this time), the girl's charisma and voice was just too perfect. The difference between the number of votes was surprising here as well...

I'm a bit torn regarding Lil Tachi... It's obvious that he was struggling mentally, so I would've expected the mentors to be more helpful than just saying "wake up" and "you have to be brighter"... like dude, depression doesn't go away like that... (I'm not a doctor or anything similar, I just read Tachi's behaviour and body language, and it was pretty obviously depression for me.) I'm glad Swings called him aside in that room and talked to him alone, these kinda talks (ofc with the right content) can help a lot.
So yeah, I'm torn because he's young, he may not know how to deal with depression or this amount of stress, so I'd expect the judges to guide and help him in the right direction. On the other hand, he was on HSR, that rap survival show is exactly for his age (and he was on SMTM before too, I think), so he should've known that this is a harder competition with adults and a lot more audience.

Gotta be honest, I liked Tachi's rap more, but Donghyunie's voice is just so unique that he easily stole the spotlight (again). It wasn't really a fair fight because their tone is really different + the bigger "problem" is that Donghyun is a singing rapper, and while his part was good only because of the singing parts (imo), Tachi actually rapped. It was good to have someone so honest with his words and gestures on the show.
I think if the audience would've been shown how much YunB prepared for this song and how Young B didn't show up on a creating process session and on an official practice, maybe the votes would've been switched for them. Obviously, it was the right choice to only show the people the performance, but still...

Lol, saying that Choi LB is your strongest rapper next to Young B... :grimacing: For me, it was immediately evident that they wanted an easy fight between their team members so they chose the strongest and the weakest one, but okay, producers, keep telling these blatant lies... :joy:

So Bohn is that typical Thai BL character too who can't spit out one sentence in his defense ("Mind tried to kiss me, but I refused him"), therefore causes even more unnecessary drama. Really, all he had to do was say the truth because he really wasn't into what Mind was doing, and if Duen knew that, maybe he wouldn't have been this upset about the whole thing. Instead now he feels cheated on (because Bohn STILL didn't say a word about the kiss not being mutual) and Bohn just promises that he won't lie ever again... Okay...

I'm still not fully happy about the main pair, but gotta admit that their kiss was pretty cute. ^^ Especially because it's rare to see a first kiss in Thai BLs where both of the characters lean in (one of them is usually refusing or is immensely surprised at first).

The Chinese cutie's adorable chuckle strikes again! :heart_eyes::joy: The actor has a really smooth and natural chemistry with Boss's actor (whose contract is apparently terminated, I read... Hope they can figure it out).

Sorry, I have to be a bit vulgar here, but BITCH WHAT?? Seriously, BohnDuen and MekBoss got their closure, but KingRam got a cliffhanger???? (And also TharaFrong, but they didn't have much time together to develop into a solid couple in this season.)
Oml, KingRam is one of the best things that has happened to Thai BL series in the last few years. Their interactions, the glances, THE KISS! I'm actually so glad I gave this show another chance, but basically only because of KingRam. King is a perfect boyfriend material - he has his flaws, but he's genuine, kind, caring, attentive, selfless, smart... And it was so good to see Ram slowly opening up to him. These two are really well-formed and realistic characters.

Okay, I didn't want to mention that idiotic boxing scene on school grounds, but there was a doctor with them... who didn't do anything at the end when Bohn clearly got bruised and Ram was in pain too. :person_facepalming:

This is a reoccurring question in Thai series... Surprisingly, I don't mind it here that much, but let's just look at it from this way: we have 2 university students (~18 and 19/20 years old) who agreed to being boyfriends without ever kissing each other? Don't get me wrong, I don't want BLs to become porn series, but if you really think about it, which adult in the modern world agrees to a relationship with barely any physical interactions between the two of them? I think before this episode, it was only one kiss on the cheek in the first or second episode - and that's it. (I emphasize again, I'm not degrading their feelings and emotional development, but how can you be someone's boyfriend as an adult if you're still dodging from a kiss on the cheek from them?)

Lol, next time I meet a guy who flirts but "doesn't mean anything by it", I'll just show them scenes of Boss&Mek and ask them if they think this is appropriate. I would've definitely ditched Boss a long time ago if I was Mek. That fake flirting and always asking for favors is so toxic. And he didn't even put a blanket on Mek or moved him or something when he saw him sleeping on the table... Is this how you treat your "best friend"? Smh.

There are two types of adorable on SMTM: 1) confidently starting the team chant like Zene, and 2) awkwardly smiling and barely even trying to flex at the team chant like Mad Clown. xDD
OMG, Yunhway the genius putting the mic under her shirt so no one could snatch it! xD
I'm glad Mckdaddy held back just the right amount so that he didn't flex for beating Bryn easily in the thigh game but he won the challenge for his team at the last few seconds. He did the right thing on both fronts. :clap:
Regularly chaotic Jonathan Moon as a confident and successful goalkeeper, and temporarily chaotic Mckdaddy falling down 3 times and not finding the ball are two big moods when I play video games, lol.

I so love these activities because of the same reasons that the contestants and producers said (but no words were needed, you just had to look at their happy faces while doing the challenges): even if it's a rapper survival show, doing these events bring them together as people and as a team. Plus, like they said too, it's a good way to just take things easy (or easier) and have some fun.

Ooooh, someone give Jjangyou a contract (if he doesn't have one already)! He has the rap skills, singing voice, charisma, confidence and looks - what else do you need? Oh, right... good lyrics. I loved everything else, but his lyrics were weak for a diss battle. It started out good and funny with the "you're gonna forget your lyrics" "hypnosis", but that can be applied to anyone.
Haha, loved Yunhway's genuine laugh when she saw Punchnello. xD But OH SHIT, PUNCHNELLO GOT US ALL FOOLED THEN WENT HARD AF! OMG.
Ohohhooo, Donghyunie... No wonder why did Jay Park hire him to H1GHER.
I'm ready to bow before Zene. I knew it was going to be lit in the moment he came up with the idea of rapping to EK's "GOD" and changing the hook to "집에 가 가 가" ("go go go home"). He's a genius. I didn't like him that much in the previous seasons (or rather didn't pay attention to him), but damn, he's shining both personally and rap-wise in SMTM8!
I mean, knowing that Young B peed himself in a show(?) is a biiig weapon in a diss battle, but repeating that one fact on and on is a bit boring... And all my respect to Young B that he seemed to be unfazed after those punchlines - and that he even complimented YunB's rap afterwards. On the other hand, YunB taking his shirt off and kinda "threatening" Young B by putting his fist in poor kid's face... lol.

Young B handing his drink over to Chillin Homie, aww... If I hadn't emphasized it enough, yes, Young B changed in a super positive way throughout the years, and I'm so proud. :muscle:
Also, Donghyunie hugging Homie... :heart_eyes: Love the love.

I understand the little difference between the votes of the second match, but eh... Punchnello's verse alone would've been enough for me to vote for them, it's unfortunate that less than half of the audience thought the same.
Aaand Donghyunie hugging Homie again, aww...