Well, after 5 seasons it’s finally over. The last 25 minutes was totally unnecessary filler. To sit for 25 minutes watching Burnham’s irritating grin, and listening to her whispery dramatic voice was paramount to torture. I sat there just to see where it was finally leading to….nowhere. They should have just cut it off at Suru’s wedding, if they even needed to drag it out that long.
I’ll can now look forward to the next series of Strange New Worlds, if there is one. I’ll also sit in hope that The Orville is finally renewed for another series, although I’m beginning to doubt that will ever happen.
Goodbye Dicovery, you won’t be missed. Not by me anyway.
The show gets worse by every single episode. What the hell was that tribal chanting and behaviour? I just see no reason anymore for Beacon 23.
Disappointing is putting it mildly, DiCaprio good as always, but the movie is really bad, with silly humor that didn't even bring a smile to my face.
Stellar cast, wasted on a bad movie... I wonder how they got them to participate.
CW caliber acting/writing. Stargate SG-1 caliber sets. Comic-con caliber make-up/costuming.
...and some of the dumbest Jedi ever...
I could write a lot about why this film is awful but I can't be bothered to waste my breath after sitting through this
Worst film of 2023.
I was skeptical after reading the other comments, but it is indeed, the worst season of the show and by far.
Why didn't they send the replicas to space? They can't make another of the same replica, but somehow you can use someone elses if you use their tag? Conceptually flawed and predictable.
This show is so good at being serious and funny all in one episode
Great one liners from
Gordon “I’ll do it”
Bortus “they are awful” :joy:
Did Talla punch Lamarr in his face :joy: his teeth fell out, shit
By far one of my favorite episodes
Great to finally know the full story on the Kaylons
I dont like that Kelly had to use the cheating story, we really didn’t need to be reminded of that neither did Ed. He really do make work his no1 priority
Isaac about to go balls deep :joy:
Not only the best episode of The Orville to date but one of the best episodes of TV I’ve ever seen. Bravo to all involved in it’s creation! For the naysayers it’s no different than the TNG episode that allowed Data to be his own person and not just a piece of Federation property.
I actually didn't mind Leia this episode, though I'd still like there to be less of her in the show. I'm also really really really hoping that Reva doesn't turn against the Empire - I've had the feeling since the beginning that she would, and I just really don't want that to happen. I don't really like her character and plotline as is, and turning her good would just be a predictable mess.
We finally got some Vader/Kenobi stuff, which is the reason most of us are probably watching this show/were hyped for it. The scene of Vader walking through the town and killing people was great, but I found the actual confrontation between Vader and Obi-Wan to be rather underwhelming (although it was certainly pretty to look at). Regardless, this was definitely the best episode yet, and I hope it continues this way.
I'd like to give it an 8/10, but dumb stuff like Reva managing to get ahead of Leia without any rational explanation prevent me from giving it higher than a 7.
Okay first episode from a more than competent Star Wars TV director. Too much Leia and that Leia chase scene was God awful. Choregraphed by a child.
Should have been labeled 'loosely based on the books by Isaac Asimov'.... Absolutely butchered the books... Disgrace... Woke nonsense
On a positive note, it is beautifully made and the actors do an excellent job.
Another episode about feelings. Garbage. I think I’m going to have to drop this show after this season.
[4.8/10] Stupid stupid stupid. Why does it always have to be the Borg? Why does it always have to be some random, shocking twist instead of just sticking to what you’ve built to through the prior eight episodes? Why must it be chock full of credulity-straining retcons and cheesy coincidences?
The plot twists here are dumb as hell. The whole biological Borg “seed” being implanted in Picard’s never-before-seen son retcon absolutely breaks my willing suspension of disbelief for how convenient it is. The Borg getting a biological assimilation upgrade that basically lets them flip a switch and assimilate everybody is a cheap bit. And god, the fact that it only affects people under 25 is such a convenient dodge to get the old crew in the driver’s seat.
If that weren’t enough, the nostalgia-pushing here is so blunt and obvious. Yes, it’s very cool to see the Enterprise-D again, to hear Majel Barrett’s voice as the computer again, and to see that set recreated with familiar faces standing on it, ready to go defend none other than the now-Admiral Shelby. But the method to get there is so unearned, so full of psychological and narrative gymnastics to arrive at this destination, that the warm feelings built from seven seasons of the old show are muted by this new one’s transparent attempt to invoke them to cover for its dumb twists and reheated conflicts.
This one’s not without its pleasures. Shaw sacrificing himself and calling Seven by her real name is a nice and well-earned moment. Data’s “I hope we die quickly!” declaration is a solid laugh. I’m glad to see Shelby in live action again and to get a reference to the USS Pulaski.
But this episode all but squanders the goodwill and good work the show’s managed to pull off over the course of season 3. After finding ways to channel high points and fond memories for the old show to tell new stories and move things forward, why are we back to Star Trek: Picard’s mind-numbing plot twists and threadbare nostalgia? What a waste of a fairly good build to this point.
So, the best episode of the Show Ahsoka is the one where Ahsoka doesn't show up.
It is not great or anything, but at least stuff happens.
They did strech out a little bit over the acceptable trhrshhold the suspense before the big reveals, but at least it was shorter than the pauses between lines of dialogue in the previous episodes.
Baylon and Shin are the only good characters so far, and we actualy got to see them develop on screen, instead of acting like mustache twirling villains.
Thrawn shows some potential, I guess... Not much to see yet.
The actor who plays Ezra has a voice very close to the original (unlike Sabine and Ahsoka). Is he the original voice actor?
Oh, the best part (besides no Ahsoka). NOBODY CROSSED THEIR ARMS!
musical episodes are the worst type of episode and you cannot change my mind
Funny how now the Empire Remnant has a secret underground resistance against the New Republic. How the tables have turned.
This episode was way better in terms of storytelling but it left me very frustrated. I know that the Mandalorians are not likely to win if they want to keep the mythology. But just for once I'd like to see them come out on top. Gideon has become a bit ridicolous. He's the archetype of a bad guy. He was more interesting when he wasn't flying around as a Vader look-alike. I hate to see Vizla die but I should've seen that one coming because I really grew to like him. Grogu inside IG ? Come-on, he's a Force user. Despite the fact he choose not to train with Luke he still has the ability, no ? And we still must have a monster, doesn't we ?
Now, those are personal and, yes, biased points on my behalf. Like I said it was a great episode as such. In the end I see it as a win for the author if he invokes those reactions from me. There were also moments that gave me serious goosebumps. Like when Bo told them what happened between her and Gideon and subsequent how Din told her why he's following her. The talk about Thrawn didn't surprise me. I expected that pretty much from episode one forward.
Only one episode left and I hope there'll be some silver lining.
Again, didn't feel like a Black Mirror episode at all. Could be "American Horror Stories" but not BM. What a letdown
This episode literally felt like a PARODY.... That is not a good thing
I almost never stop watching a series midway but this is just too painful to continue. It's everything wrong with Hollywood in our times.
To be fair I think the premise is pretty good and Alan Tudyk is a talented actor. He's doing his "schtick" admirably and delivers the alien humor well. It's the absolute 4th wave feminism that is intolerable. But the preaching of the new woke religion is too much.
It was evident from midway thru last season that this is where it was going but after S2E3 the writers turned it into talking points from a women's study syllabus and it's so forced. Women's pay gap? check Women being objectified? check Mansplaining? Check. Bright pink hair? Check. Unattractive fat women? Check and check and check. Stupid, spineless, buffoonish men? Oh yea. It's so bad they even have the kids joining in on the act. Can't let those little ones just be kids, we have to make sure to get em while they're young.
Don't waste your time.
I f*king cried, Luke at the end & R2 ?! best episode ever. This even tops the sequel triolgy for me. You know, this even makes 2020 a good year. 10/10
I liked this episode. This builds on lore about Khan from the wrath of khan, and on the temporal war, which is mention in enterprise and discovery. At some point we will need to see this two massive events, but I like how this episode builds on the lore.
What an absolute perfect ending, and I say this while admitting this ending didn't go the way I expected it to. Like honestly, how many of us actually thought Picard was going to survive this episode? I didn't, but I'm damn sure glad he did, even if we never see any of these TNG characters ever again, which I honestly doubt we won't given the ending. This was an emotional final send off however for this crew that honored and respected each of them throughout the season, every single one of them got their grand moment to shine, Riker with his asteroid, Geordi with his ship, Worf with his rescue, Crusher with her contraction discovery, Data defeated Lore, Troi rescued them in the end with her love for Riker, and Picard saved his son. And how about that borg queen, holy absolute hell was she horrifying looking or what? Anyway, what a beautiful ending that they all deserved, and one last poker game for the sake of it all. Am I excited about the future with Q showing up to tease the next series with the Enterprise G? Sure, but not as happy as I am that the old timers I grew up with got their swan song and somehow, someway, all survived. And if you didn't burst into tears when Riker and Worf decided to stay back to find Picard, basically sealing their death, then damn it I don't know what will satisfy you in life. Was this show perfect? Fuck no. Was the 3rd season without flaws? Bahaha, no! But if you can't appreciate what this really was meant to be here, I don't judge you, I just feel sad you couldn't feel the raw enjoyment the rest of us felt, because this was fucking awesome.
@everythingafter you needed to watch the Boba Fett show. It’s basically Mando season 2.5. We see what happens with Grogu and Luke
Yeah, no thanks. I have a feeling this is going to get worse. Better to stop now.
"To the Undiscovered Country - The future."
I lost track of how much talent is in this episode. I kept getting distracted by Bruce Boxleitner reprising his role as the President of Earth. What a lore-rich and beautiful episode this is. I think there is something for everybody. From the classic humor in the simulator, to getting deeper into Krill lore, to seeing multiple space battles.
To the above quote, this is The Orville's version of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Right down to the Abrahamic leader figure. And this time the subversion is that peace goes to shit and all anyone can do is simply prevent going to open war on multiple fronts. The wildcard, that I'm mad I didn't see coming, is that Ed got Teleya pregnant and she now has a Krill-Human daughter that could upset galactic politics and cause an uprising on Krill. Ed is now sitting on an H-bomb, and he might have to press the trigger.
Overall this episode has such a warmth to it, even on Planet Ibiza. All the vistas we get to see, all the held shots and silent moments. Seth said that every episode would feel like a movie, and so far that holds true. This is best one so far, and also one of the best of the entire series.
I cannot stress how meaningful it is to me that the camera is allowed to be in a fixed position for several seconds at a time! After finishing Obi-wan, I am so tired of free-roaming cameras and additional shaking being purposefully added in post when the scene is just someone talking.
I'm just going to keep saying it until it stops being true. Right now, there are exactly two scifi shows airing that are telling stories of this caliber. Neither of them are called Star Trek, but both of them are being worked on by Star Trek alumni. I'm at least grateful that science fiction that prioritizes smart storytelling is still an option. Gene would be proud of both of them. And I'd like to think he prefers this one. :)
What is the point in these ships even having weapons systems? The star destroyer couldn't even shoot a super basic defenceless ship out of the sky! It has been utterly infuriating watching the action sequences in this show.
"I will do what I must" made me cringe. It was like bad fan fiction. The fight wasn't great, though it was definitely better than the fight back in episode 3 of the show.
Reva might just be the most pathetic force user of all time. How the hell did a couple of random farmers hold their own against her? Again, the action in this show has been consistently dreadful - just straight-up bad decisions by the writing team, and laughably poor choreography. Also, she literally just took a lightsaber to the gut hours ago and was left for dead, yet now she suddenly appears absolutely fine walking around on Tattoine? WHAT IS THIS SHOW?
Glad we got the Qui-Gon cameo at the end though.
ahhh, the olde hide child in trenchcoat trick! that can fool anyone on any military base.
Oh man, all this is such a lazy bad writing... so they're going into an unknown potentially dangerous place. And the alien race warns them specifically saying that is a very dangerous place indeed. They come there and who goes into the recon mission? The admiral, the captain of the whole ship, the first hand, the main doctor, the main engineer - so, all the "head" of the ship. So if something happens the whole ship has nobody to command. It's an official union explorer ship with hundreds of people on board and they have no exploration team who goes first at all. Okay, even if I can forgive them that stupidity for the sake of tv-show excuse to show the main characters more often. But what's next?
Do they go into this dangerous place in space suits with weapons? Of course no, they go just like that and admiral literally put his face into some weird looking bio-thingy. It's like Space 101 of what not to do. Of course he gets infected, of course he's a trojan horse. They don't even secure him anyhow, just walk and go, do whatever, infect others. Then we going to spread around the ship while having no weapons at all, because why would we, we're going to have them for a minute at the end of the episode otherwise no thrilling moments.
If you think you already seen all of that somewhere but in a much less stupid way - you are right, the episode of Firefly had exactly this, but much more logical.
Bit of a disappointment so far, which seems to be a reoccurring theme with these Disney+ shows and their IPs. Maybe some better showrunners? I came into Obi-Wan pretty high on Deborah Chow, but maybe I was wrong. Some things have felt fluid, and others really clunky (the woods chase is as bad a scene of choreography, as I remember). The actress playing Reva feels like someone desperately cosplaying as an Empire based character.
