DELPHINE'S ALIVE!!!
Donnie is no longer re-enacting "Orange is the New Black".
Helena is back and killing bad people again!
Rachel is back to being that HBIC she's meant to be.
Today was a good day!
Oh god this episode was just brilliant, we got to see Sarah and "Beth" interact but to be honest that just left me wanting more scenes like that Sarah and Beth even tho it was with a dead person, Cosima lost her mind and was about to just do a suicide mission with the bot but thank you Felix for saving my baby Cosima and giving us hope that Delphine isn't dead or at least she wasn't killed on impact of the bullet, Mika talking to Kira I cannot wait to see why MK decided to do that but I hope that it's for good intentions and not any harmful ones, Alison trying to stay strong her children but the fact that the police ended up ruining Gemma's slumber party isn't such a nice thing because that ended up with ruining Gemma's birthday also I really hope that Mrs S or Sarah just pulls the trigger on Duko's head for killing Kendall and for driving Beth to kill herself and to conclude I cannot wait to see why Rachel was seeing that in her eye, is it someone hacking into her eye, is it a glitch?
Donnie's face when he saw Krystal was priceless. I hope they tell her soon about the clone story, she's smart and can help them. This show is getting more and more interesting.
Krystal is fitness goals, my god.
I feel like it's time to let Krystal into Clone Club, she can handle it. Okay, maybe she'll kick someones ass and flip a table out of a window but she'll handle it surprisingly well, I think.
EDIT: I feel like there's something up with Adele. Those worm things are for targeted gene therapy, right? So what if someone gave Adele one and used it to make her DNA a close enough match to Felix's that they'd look like siblings on a DNA test? I know it's convoluted but when is anyone ever happy in this show? Maybe it's just because Sarah's so suspicious of her, and that's transferring to me too but I'm really not sure about her. Especially when there are DNA changing face worms in the mix.
I laughed (Donnie/Felix), I cried (why Helena, why?), it moved me, Bob (Donnie/Helena). This season is bringing out the emotions in me. After last season, I didn't know if I could look forward to this show every week. Now I wish I could fast forward a week just to see the next episode.
Allison and Donnie are my favourite TV couple.
"Donnie, my sister has a robot maggot in her face. You tell me what a solid plan is." "Exactly. Now go rent a jackhammer."
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not gonna let it slide."
Another great episode, loving the dynamics between both Donnie and Helena and Donnie and Alison. I wonder what Felix' storyline has coming our way.
Some things never change: Kira is still creepy (and getting creepier by the seasons) and Sarah still thinks her hoodie is a cloak of invisibility.
Another amazing episode, I really hope they keep it up this season. Mika is a new interesting character that I'm quite intrigued by and so far all the story lines (Helena's twins, Sarah's worm, Fee's parents, Delphine's demise, etc) are promising. I'm glad the show got back on track after last season!
I was hesitant about the 'flashback' scenes, but they have been done very well. The flashback of Beth and Mika's goodbye was so sad. Beth didn't have to say anything, for Mika to know what goodbye meant :'(
That goodbye scene between Beth and MK just broke my heart :'(
Okay, those worm implant things are gross as hell. My whole face is itching right now. But how come Sarah didn't feel it earlier? In the previous episode the guy could feel it moving in his cheek and the one in Sarah's jaw looks pretty big.
My poor baby Cosima missing Delphine. I'm so sad for her, she's such a sweet ray of sunshine but she's been through so much. I just want her to be happy...
Helena's having twins! Finally we're getting something nice and positive instead of constant suffering! She was so excited when she found out. And Donny's a real treasure. So kind and supportive and genuinely happy for Helena. I feel a little sorry for Alison, though. This whole situation must be difficult for her, especially since she's the one who wanted to have a family and struggled with her inability to get pregnant.
Felix looking for his biological parents will be an interesting storyline. It's nice that they adressed the fact that S and Sarah are basically related and that Felix might feel left out because of that.
The scenes where the story switched between Sarah and Beth were the highlight of the episode for me. They were very cool visually and I like that we finally got to learn more about Beth, since Sarah witnessing her suicide was what set the events in motion in the first place.
Finally some more information about Beth's story! I liked it.
It's a great way to introduce a new clone.
Loved seeing more of the backstory on Beth, and being introduced to Mika (who seems like a very interesting character).
Nice back story to Beth! Oh geez that poor woman was really backed into a corner :(
Very good episode, made me realize why I love this show and its characters so much.
Good Question! When there is a vacancy in the office of Vice President, both houses of Congress must approve the replacement. This is according to the 25th Amendment, and has happened twice previously: Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller. The Senate alone picks the VP when no candidate earns a majority in the Electoral College.
Now that I’ve watched the entire series in literally one sitting, I’m ready to go back and go through it more slowly. Maybe take notes on each ep about the things I love and things that might trigger others.
There is just so much world-building for all that it is set right here and now. The layers of detail and the breadth of the world created is just fascinating.
Each location truly feels separate, probably because they did actually film on location heh. And each culture feels very distinct which creates such a sense of realism.
I am genuinely impressed with the technical aspects of this show: directing, writing, editing, cinematography, etc. But the heart of it is the chemistry between the main cast and how well they demonstrate the sudden intimacy that their new situations create.
Nothing felt inevitable, there was always a sense of risk and possibility. At the same time, the things that do happen feel right and true to the characters and situations. It’s masterful.
I feel so fortunate that this show exists and that I got to see it.
All that said, there are some incredibly intense moments in the show. There is a suicide in the early part of episode one. Later there is various levels of gore and violence. And if you have any bodily issues, the fact that the show in no way ignores the biological issues of cis women’s bodies might shock you.
As far as I can recall, however, there is no animal harm or rape/attempted rape. I specifically recall a scene where I was like, “oh thank fuck! he’s only trying to murder her.”
At the end of the day, the people I cared about survived and/or triumphed enough that the hardships they went through felt worth it. Intensity level-wise (language, sex, violence, plot) I would compare it to Starz’s Spartacus series. Quality-wise too, it’s that good.
Interesting episode. With the Legion of Doom It felt like they may finally have a place for Malcolm Merlin. He's been floating around the Arrowverse for a few years with no real purpose.
Also, it looks like Rip Hunter has turned up again. I was really enjoying the show with him absent, Arthur Darvill doesn't add anything to the show.
Then there's the whole time travel thing. I swear I'm going to lose my mind the way Legends handles it. Sarah basically said "screw the timeline", one week after giving Barry the holier-than-though speech during the 4-night crossover. The writers need to stop flogging Barry over Flashpoint, it's small potatoes compared to the damage the Legends have caused.
okay the dominators literally admitted they wanted to exterminate the metahuman kind and it was pretty obvious anyway that they won't be just satisfied with killing the flash, and yet barry still tried to "sacrifice" himself? yeah, makes a lot of sense... and i've been waiting for barry to get on waverider and meet its version of gideon since the first season of lot, so kind of bummed it didn't happen. also cisco wasn't surprised by gideon which was pretty weird. and dig forgiving barry was a bit sudden. otherwise a great episode with some enjoyable fights.
And here it is. The epic conclusion.
This was probably my favorite part of the crossover. The Flash part was a bit too rushed for my liking, and the Arrow part focused more on celebrating the 100th episode than the alien invasion. But this one? This one had it all. We got plenty of fight scenes and ass-kicking, but there were also some wonderful emotional moments.
I liked Stein's daughter drama. There was a lot of it in this episode, maybe a little too much, but it's an interesting storyline, even though I saw it coming a mile away as soon as Stein started having those visions of Lily. It's still good, though, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it's going to affect the future episodes of Legends.
Oliver's reasons for benching Kara were dumb as fuck. I firmly believe that that scene exists only because they couldn't include Melissa in most of the episode because of a scheduling conflict or some shit.
The Dominators really didn't put up much of a fight, did they? They just ran right back to their ships as soon as that bomb was destroyed. By the way, I totally forgot that Firestorm could transform things. I'm not entirely sure why they couldn't just have Kara throw the bomb back into space (come on, we all know she could easily have done that), but I guess it's because they wanted every hero to have their moment in the spotlight.
Holy shit, Kara and Felicity are similar. I can't believe I've never thought about it before. And Ray's comment about Kara looking like his cousin was a fun little reference for all the Superman fans out there.
I'm glad that Barry and Cisco are on good terms again. And Cisco and Felicity geeking out aboard the Waverider were adorable.
It's so cool that Kara can travel between dimensions now. It's sure as hell going to come in handy next year when the CW needs another bump in the ratings!
I love group hugs! Especially when it's between grumpy Oliver and two precious rays of sunshine Kara and Barry.
Kara is freaking scary when she wants to be. Damn. Never mess with this alien puppy. She'll drag you so hard you'll never get back up, and she'll do it with a smile on her face.
That little conversation between Sara and Oliver at the end of the episode was such a lovely, underrated moment. It really did start with the two of them. I've never looked at it like that.
Overall, this was an insanely satisfying crossover. I enjoyed it a lot, even though it made me feel dizzy at times, with all these characters running around, forcing me to pause the episode and do a mental count of who's who and which show they're on. I'm still bitter that Kara was the only Supergirl character to appear - Winn would've fit right in with the Geek Squad, and I wanted to see Alex and Sara kick some ass together. Maybe Digg losing his shit over J'onn being a Green Martian. Whatever. This was still fun, and who knows? Maybe next year's crossover will take place on Earth-38?
7.6/10. Oof, it was a rough go with the dialogue on this one. There were some funny lines (Coulson’s “drunk on your own power or drinking your own kool-aid or drinking your own powerade” line was particularly amusing) but there were a lot of facepalm worthy action hero lines too. But hey, they tended to fall into “so bad it’s good” territory, and when the show is going for light adventure rather than self-seriousness, that works just fine for me.
The only catch is that they did get a little self-serious with Eli Morrow. While I like the tack they took with this character. His evil scheme was less about power for the sake of power, but rather being underestimated, despite his Ph.D. and intelligence, implicitly because of his race. It’s interesting subtext, but it’s just kind of thrown in at the end here, making it feel tacked on, and his poorly written monologues about the subject don’t exactly sell the themes either.
We also get a pretty solid face-to-face between Coulson and Director Mace. I’ll say again that I like Mace. He brings his own vibe to the table, and the idea that he is not a bad guy, just concerned about the image of Shield in a way that Coulson was only intermittently in the past. That gives him a clear, occasionally conflicting motivation that gives him reason to clash with Coulson and the original team without being an out-and-out bad guy (the same, now that I think about it, goes for Dr. Radcliffe) which is something the show could use more of.
And his back and forth with Coulson is interesting, if not especially well-written. The idea that he sent Simmons over to Senator Nadir to examine the Inhuman she had trapped in exchange for Nadir not releasing footage of Daisy helping a known terrorist is a cool reveal. It’s a nice swerve to make Mace look like a bad guy on the surface, but in reality, be trying to protect the organization and the people who work for it. He’s also right that Coulson hasn’t exactly given him reason to be trusting.
Yo-yo, for her part, doesn’t trust Mack. But the show pulls the trigger on them anyway! Let’s be real, the folks behind the scenes were pretty much just keeping them apart so they could eventually throw them together, but I’m a sucker for it anyway. I like the narrative that Mack was hemming and hawing until he got a taste of Hell through Ghostrider, and that showed him what was really important. Yo-Yo and Mack are two solid characters on the show (Yo-Yo especially gets some great lines) and they have great chemistry together, so the whole thing works.
The Ghostrider climax, however, doesn’t so much. Not the action scene that ends this part of the storyline with a bang, but rather the confrontation between Robbie and Eli. The whole family feud element has fallen really flat, and the weak dialogue and weak acting (which are hard to disentangle) make lines like “You had a good job. You had us.” come off as a big waste.
Still, that action follow up was one of the best sequence the show has managed. There was a lot of style for the sake of style in how this episode was shot – a lot of random dutch angles and weird perspectives that didn’t really convey much meaning – but the final big set piece with taking Eli out using the technobabble of the week was a complete thrill, and shot well to match.
In particular, Yo-yo’s Quicksilver-esque adventures to run into the fray, disarm who needed to be disarm, and set Eli up to be sucked out, was a very well done sequence, in a show that continues to use her powers well. I also enjoyed that Mace got onto the battlefield for once, though his powersuit was corny as heck, and the idea that he would show up in public wearing it gave me flashbacks to George W. Bush in his flight suit or Michael Dukakis in his tank. It’s a silly idea, but hey, it’s a comic book show. Silly ideas are the stock and trade.
Of course, we get a conclusion (for now at least) to the Ghost Rider saga, with Robbie having a chance to escape, but rejecting it, giving into the Ghost Rider, and letting him take Eli to Hell. It was entirely predictable that he was going to toss away the chain, but it’s still a solid enough beat to end on.
And Daisy’s back! Kind of! Never thought I’d be glad for that, but here we are. I liked the concept that the earthquakes were the result of a combination of Eli making something out of “nothing” (whether it’s carbon via the diamonds – a cool demonstration of his power – or water) and the reality of the law of conservation of mass which says that it has to come from somewhere. It also gave Daisy something to do, and the fact that she could absorb the quakes was a nice touch and use of her powers.
This being Agents of Shield however, we have to tease the next big threat. Let this be a lesson to you kids – anytime somebody on a tv show or movie says they’re going to do something fun or meaningful “right after this is done” something will prevent them from doing it. It’s just the rules of fiction for some reason. So of course, Aida is going a little mad with power, and it turns that May’s “milk run” resulted in her getting replaced with an android duplicate, preventing the flirty bottle-opening bit with Coulson from being legitimate. Who knows where they’re going with this Life Model Decoy bit (and between the mask-shifting agent who teamed up with Evil Ward, can May catch a break with being copied already), but it adds an “anyone could be working for the bad guy” atmosphere for the second half of the season that has promising.
Despite all the action and fireworks, it was also nice to see the whole gang together in one spot. I make fun of this show a lot in these reviews, because at it’s cheesy as all get out, and the writing’s often bad, and the plots don’t always make a lot of sense. But despite that fact, we’ve made through 74 episodes with (most of) these people, and that breeds a certain amount of investment, a certain amount of appreciation for these characters, and their trials and tribulations, no matter how cartoony. That makes it very pleasant to see them celebrating together once more, getting to enjoy their victory and their reunion, before the next robo-antagonist rolls into town. See you in the new year, Shield.
The crossover continues! Right in the feels. That was heartbreaking. Sometimes I think the writers love torturing us. This episode felt like Runaway Dinosaur in The Flash with that dream reality and the team outside trying to bring the heroes back.
Ollie saying goodbye to his parents and Laurel broke me, but not as much as Thea begging him to stay. That destroyed me. I lost it after he was about to get out and everybody reminded him of the man he've become. Everything in that reality was beautiful. I just want to take a moment to say that Arrow has been in space, and that they have been on a spaceshift, and then in the Waverider. One small step for Legends, but a giant leap for Arrow. There I said it.
I loved Thea's speech to Ollie about staying in that dream. It felt so real and so true to herself. One of her best acting in the show. Dig was amazing. He truly is a shitty drawer. I loved seeing Laurel again. It reminded me of the hole she left. It was really emotional when Sara and Ollie said goodbye to her. That "I love you" gave me goosebumps. I loved Malcolm's appearance, long time not see. I loved the return of Moira and Robert. Just hugging their parents gave me feels. And I'm going to say it: the Russian maid. The true gest star. And the show breaking the 4th wall was so epic: "Tommy is a doctor in Chicago". I laughed so hard at that one. And Ollie finding that alien weapon, seriously, I thought it was just decor.
That fighting scene. Seriously, I've never been so happy to see Slade before. I just missed the fact the he didn't take the mask off. I wanted to see unmasked Slade and Manu's sexy voice. And Thea shooting an arrow into Sara's hand was so badass!
Now the dominator are Jewish? OK, that's weird, but funny to know, though.
I'm more hyped than ever. Looking forward to Legends. Wonder how Ollie would react when he seed Vixen.
Thank you Arrow and big congrats! Thank you for reminding me why I love Arrow and I always will. Thank you!
You know what the sad thing is? I didn't appreciate Laurel enough when she was on the show. This episode only reminded me what a big hole she left when she died. And damn, it made me emotional.
I actually love the "characters are in a simulation and start to realize that something's not right" storyline. This was really well-done.
I wondered where the newbies were during last night's episode. I'm not that fond of them, but I'm glad they included them here, if only for the sake of continuity.
Kara and Barry's high five in the middle of a fight was just the cutest thing ever. This is one of my favorite relationships in the Arrowverse. They are absolutely adorable together.
Holy cow, that spaceship looked freaking amazing. And I'm happy that the Waverider and Nate made an appearance. I guess we'll see everyone in the Legends part of the crossover. Maybe we'll finally get some actual alien ass-kicking.
Oh, and how could I forget? This is the 100th episode of Arrow! Congrats! It hasn't always been smooth sailing, but I'm still happy for the show. It was great to see all the characters we've lost along the way and remember how much Arrow has changed since the pilot. Some of the changes have been for the better. Some for the worse. But all in all, I still enjoy the show and episodes like this remind me why I fell in love with it in the first place.
I was missing these Olivarry interactions, they make such a great duo. Ollie would never admit it but he is Barry's #1 stan.
But Kara saying she will always trust Flash ❤️ and her interactions with Mick lol.
Cool that Stein has a daughter, but we actually don't know if Clarissa is her mother, I hope she is.
Great fighting scenes, can't wait for the rest of the crossover!.
So much epicness. And it was only part 1! It felt like a 42 minute movie! I was jumping up and down. I think I might have broken my chair. We've had crossovers before but this was way above the others. The cast was amazing. I'm a big big fan of the four shows but seeing them all under the same roof was amazing. The dominators look good, even though they didn't do much. I really loved the fighting towards the end, especially Sara and Oliver. It felt like Civil War airport fight for TV scale.
Where do I start? Sara was brilliant, always saying what we are thinking "are we supposed to pretend like we don't hear him?" Dig's simply amazing. I will never get tired of his reaction when he meets Barry: "My life was somewhat normal before I met you" or "You know why I never did drugs? I was afraid to see weird stuff", I had to pause, calm down and start again. When he said "It's a trap" that meme was echoing in my head. Mick was also amazing. He's growing on me. He calling Supergirl skirt was so Mickish.
But the MVP of the episode was Oliver. I agree with Iris, Oliver just got so much hotter, how can that even be possible? His dialogue felt brilliant, especially in the time vault. That scene brought chills to my spine "you're not a God , Barry". I loved his wtf, Barry expression at the beginning of the episode. I can't get over it. That and the "one sci-fi problem at a time". So epic. he run out of arrows, holy cow, I thought Legolas and him were somehow related.
The subplot was good, except for Wally. Stop winning and train, assbutt. And Cisco, why don't you blame the drunk driver? I have a feeling he's becoming Reverb. I didn't like erroneous turning against Barry, but helped to move the plot forward so I'm cool with it.
"Tell your mother I'll see her soon". Writers, don't you dare to kill Grey.
I'm so hyped for Arrow's season 1 callbacks. Where's the Waverider when you need it? This is going to be so awesome I think I might explode.
That star labs warehouse is a not so subtle future hall of justice for this superfriends team :-) got very nostalgic how they designed it to look exactly like the headquarters of the superfriends show back in the 80s :-) awesome crossover week!! I am a marvel fan but CW nailed it with this 4 shows. Lucky network :-)
Crossovers are the best thing mankind has ever created. HOLY SHIT. The hype in that episode of Flash. We finally get to hear what was in that message of Future Flash. And everybody losing it over Barry fucking up the timeline. Loved Oliver's speech though. Flash and Arrow, best bros for life <3 Cisco blaming Barry because he changed the timeline. I mean I get it, he did lose his brother but it's like Oliver said, would he seriously not try to change the timeline if he could? Would he seriously not try to save his Mom and Dad if they were dead? I distinctly remember him asking Barry to change the timeline at the start of the season xD
The action stuff this week was absolutely hype. So glad to have Thea in the team. I missed Speedy :D
So excited for tomorrow's episode of Arrow :D
I was really hoping to see how Cisco and Winn would interact as they're both goodhearted nerds. Maybe during next years crossover :)
