I hope this isn't the last time we'll see Mayhem, she's a refreshing new character. I'm guessing each person sees something different when they're devoured into Tyrone's dimension? Connors wasn't there where Mayhem was. Or does Tyrone's dimension have multiple separate dimensions attached to it for each separate person that gets devoured, like cells?
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@legendaryfang56 In the comics, everybody who goes in sees their own personal nightmare. At least if they're evil. The cloak is actually connected to the Darkforce (which we've seen previously in the MCU in Agent Carter)
[7.7/10] There are three versions of the same motif in “Martial Feats”, three moments when Angela has her arms wrapped around someone, supporting their weight, before something major, and a little insane, goes down.
The first is the most straightforward. She, along with Looking Glass and Red Scare, help pull Chief Crawford down from his noose. It is a moment where she is losing a father figure, seeing someone she trusted, who was family to her, taken away from her by vigilantes. There is profound pain in her eyes when she watches the body bag zipped up, and tries to remain calm rather than immediately taking her revenge on Nixontown, even as her brutal beatdown shows how much anger she’s holding under the surface.
The second is a flashback to the “White Night”, where she’s holding her husband close, playing and flirting in the final moments before Xmas. Until all of a sudden, a man in a Rorschach mask barges in and, in a harrowing scene, tries to kill her. The result is an explanation for her closeness with Chief Crawford, a shared survival of something hellacious that hit close to home, that emboldened them to stay in the fight despite tremendous risks, that brought them together as something closer and more significant than two officers on the same force.
And the third is her lifting Will into her car after placing him under arrest. It comes not only after she has learned that her Chief, the man she trusted, was hiding a Klan robe in his closet, something to undermine the faith and love she thought they shared, but also after she learns that this man who claims to have killed Judd Crawford is her biological grandfather. It is something to tear her world apart, to rewrite everything she thought she knew about someone close to her, and a reason to take seriously someone who claims to be his killer.
What does it all mean? Well I think the key is in the opening scene, where we see the development and distribution of a letter to black soldiers fighting in World War II, asking why they fight for a country that treats them as something lesser, that doesn't give them dignity despite serving under the same flag. It seems like that sparked something in (presumably) Will’s father, a realization that despite serving with and under their white counterparts, there was a different war to fight, a level of trust and respect they were not going to get, which gave him, and now gives Angela, reason to question the justness of the battles they’re fighting.
A third of the way through, the Watchmen T.V. series is about the murky intersection of race and politics and service and our national institutions. But it also seems to be about an awakening in Angela, one that opens her eyes to realities she thought she knew, of lines between black and white she thought she understood, that are starting to become much more blurred with the light Will’s little lantern is shining on them.
Much of that falls on Regina Hall to carry, and she does an outstanding job here. Whether it’s selling Angela’s surprise at the revelation about her grandfather, her responding with determination and resolve and tremendous pain after hearing about how many of her comrades were gunned down, her reserve curdling into vengeful anger at Nixontown, or her understanding, concerned interactions with her son, all give Hall a hell of an opportunity to show the different layers and shades she brings to this performance.
It’s also an episode that helps build out the world, fill in the blanks for little questions that we might have assumed we knew the answers to, but couldn’t know for sure. We see what exactly the “White Night” was and how it affected the relationship between the police and “The Cavalry.” We learn that Angela and her husband adopted the children of her old partner who was killed that night, something the kids’ grandfather (Jim Beaver!) is clearly none too pleased with.
And we learn more details about the “Redfordrations” -- the financial recompense offered by the U.S. government in response to the violence enacted against black people in America, including the Tulsa Massacre of Black Wallstreet depicted in the opening episode. I’m apt to slate Watchmen a little for resorting to pretty raw exposition for this, but holy hell, it’s hard to complain when they have Skip f’n Gates do it, and include a DNA test to boot. It’s a revelation that helps connect the show’s political themes to something concrete, an effort to portray a right wing backlash to a left wing government trying to take steps to make amends for the abhorrent things in our country’s past, and to establish Angela’s place within that maelstrom.
We also see Veidt trying to make good on Dr. Manhattan’s suggestion that he might try to create a little life on his own. Ozymandias is trying to recreate tomatoes, emotions, people, and seems to be coming up short each time. His part of the episode seems to take place separate and apart from all the other goings on, without much of even a thematic tie. But it’s an intriguing side-story, one of obsession with his old blue compatriot, and one of trying to find passion and, yes, life in something he can create and control.
And last, but not least, we get a look at the “American Hero” T.V. show, giving us a scene of Hooded Justice’s backstory that...well...looks a lot like the aesthetic and style of 2009 Zach Snyder film. I’m not sure if there’s a broader point here, beyond vaguely slating the earlier flick. But maybe the purpose (along with the FCC’s disavowal) is to show the way that these exploits are still being lionized, still meant to inspire and give a hagiography for a form of vigilante justice that has nuts in Rorschach masks going on organized cop killing sprees. It’s a form of justice that the likes of Nite Owl and Silk Spectre once believed in, folks who may have something to do with Will getting picked up and carried off into the night sky.
They’re the other image that comes to mind when I think of two people holding one another in the way that Angela holds her husband, her surrogate father, and her grandfather here. I think of Dan Dreiberg’s dream of the two of them in the nuclear apocalypse. I think of the newsstand owner and his younger reader reaching for one another amid the squid’s blast. I think of these people reaching for one another in these horrible situations, seeking that last bit of connection amid terrible events. And maybe that’s what Angela is waking up to, a human connection that alerts her to something rotten, something ominous, waiting just beyond the horizon.
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@andrewbloom I think flyers were distributed in WW 1, not 2. Black soldiers were notoriously mistreated during ww1 by the USA, who sent them first to front lines. That also explains how the grandfather had this note in 1922's Tulsa thing.
Man I hate that trope they've used in the ending, it's always so stupid and annoying and feels like a cop out. Seriously.
On an unrelated note, think of all the inflation that's going to happen because this huge amount of money just went into circulation. I hope they'll address that in the last three episodes.
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@etonawa What's interesting is that it was a play on the troupe. The pop music played into the troupe, they'd they would meet up and live happily ever after. Instead it is dead silence, and they did end up getting what they wanted. Darlene takes care of herself, and Dom finally gets some sleep.
While at first you may assume it's the common troupe, it's quite a bit deeper than that.
Boy am I glad that psycho Janice is finally dead. Hope Dom survives.
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@kahnvalds Very good acting though. She was very believable..
Absolutely great episode, action, confrontation, background politics and the ongoing "runtime error", all at just the right composition.
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@david-the-dev LOL, the super computer-knowledgeable granny did it for me: "I hardened my install further than the standard configuration ..."
Ok, not the show I started watching, removing from Auto download list.
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@evlo What a mistake you made
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Ok, Angela did it with Ollie's ID and in his computer, then what? A SECURITY company doesn't have security cameras?
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@matheusvdo Neither security guards and access cards are just props. In the last episode, Mr. Robot entered as if nothing had happened, being a complete stranger without anyone noticing his presence.
Wow... three major deaths in one episode. Crazy stuff.
Kudos to the casting department, yet again, with young Peter this time. It’s insane how I can instantly tell who these characters are based on the resemblance alone. Incredible!
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@tvwatcha3 Casting department is on point. I love how we don't get the name of a character until seasons later and yet we know exactly who they are. I started to think that everyone is really related to each other. On the young Peter stuff, I've got to say that I looked him up and it turns out that the actor playing young Peter is indeed old Peter's son.
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This show's something else. There's so much to unpack each episode and I'm 100% sure that, if someone had seen my face during this episode would've been worried about me.
Am I the only one who paused for like 10 minutes when the family tree appeared and was like, wtf does all of this mean? I've always struggled with generations, family trees and guessing who's who. No matter the language. Even in my native one. And so I needed to make sure I understood all the connections before moving onto the ending.
Another show would've just saved the family tree for later in the season but not Dark. I can't believe that they gave us the whole family tree from two different worlds and it's just episode 2!!! This show is on a whole norther level.
I always suspected that Agnes' husband was important somehow, but he's the key to everything. Holy Molly! If we know who Tronte's father is... Damn, this show!
So, let's summarize my thoughts 'cause otherwise I'll drive myself nuts. Noah's father is Bartosz together with a Silja, who, I'm guessing, is the girl from the future. So that means that Bartosz was killed by his own son and had an affair with Martha, who's Turan out to be his second cousin twice removed (or something) and his own great grand daughter in alternate world. Seriously, my head hurts.
I remember that I was always curious to know who Tronte's dad was and in my recent re-watch of the season, I remember Agnes saying that Tronte's dad was a priest. So, I'm guessing, maybe Peter? I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
One of the bits I'm loving the most is the generation trio. I'm both mesmerized and terrified by them. It's so weird to explain.
Ulrich and Katharina. My heart hurts. It was really touching and it hurt me more than I expected. Old Ulrich actor is AMAZING. You can see the pain in his eyes. I still remember the day when I thought it was just the same actor with make-up on. This is seriously one of my favorite scenes on the show.
I've always been against adults terrifying children or just even pushing them, but when Katharina pushed young Hannah against the wall and told her to keep her hands off of Ulrich and Mikkel I was like, there you go girl!!!
And that poor Claudia's secretary! Did anyone else think she was pregnant? Poor girl. I loved the scene when she told Tronte that everything started with that white-haired woman and her dog. Like, go Gretchen! She definitely has a part to play.
And the father of the year award was to Tronte. I can't believe how messed up this show is. In order to save Regina, Claudia has to ask Tronte to kill their daughter in order to push Claudia to be more focused and save everyone.
Also, how the hell did Tronte survive the apocalypse? He wasn't even in the bunker. And young Noah talking to Elizabeth. Something tells me that Elizabeth would be the one killing her father. This is one relationship I'm looking forward to getting to know more about.
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@vero-winchester :exploding_head::exploding_head::exploding_head: Old Ulrich is not played by Oliver Masucci, i always thought it was make-up but it's another actor, Winfried Glatzeder!
Thanks for the info !
Review by Vero
This show's something else. There's so much to unpack each episode and I'm 100% sure that, if someone had seen my face during this episode would've been worried about me.
Am I the only one who paused for like 10 minutes when the family tree appeared and was like, wtf does all of this mean? I've always struggled with generations, family trees and guessing who's who. No matter the language. Even in my native one. And so I needed to make sure I understood all the connections before moving onto the ending.
Another show would've just saved the family tree for later in the season but not Dark. I can't believe that they gave us the whole family tree from two different worlds and it's just episode 2!!! This show is on a whole norther level.
I always suspected that Agnes' husband was important somehow, but he's the key to everything. Holy Molly! If we know who Tronte's father is... Damn, this show!
So, let's summarize my thoughts 'cause otherwise I'll drive myself nuts. Noah's father is Bartosz together with a Silja, who, I'm guessing, is the girl from the future. So that means that Bartosz was killed by his own son and had an affair with Martha, who's Turan out to be his second cousin twice removed (or something) and his own great grand daughter in alternate world. Seriously, my head hurts.
I remember that I was always curious to know who Tronte's dad was and in my recent re-watch of the season, I remember Agnes saying that Tronte's dad was a priest. So, I'm guessing, maybe Peter? I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
One of the bits I'm loving the most is the generation trio. I'm both mesmerized and terrified by them. It's so weird to explain.
Ulrich and Katharina. My heart hurts. It was really touching and it hurt me more than I expected. Old Ulrich actor is AMAZING. You can see the pain in his eyes. I still remember the day when I thought it was just the same actor with make-up on. This is seriously one of my favorite scenes on the show.
I've always been against adults terrifying children or just even pushing them, but when Katharina pushed young Hannah against the wall and told her to keep her hands off of Ulrich and Mikkel I was like, there you go girl!!!
And that poor Claudia's secretary! Did anyone else think she was pregnant? Poor girl. I loved the scene when she told Tronte that everything started with that white-haired woman and her dog. Like, go Gretchen! She definitely has a part to play.
And the father of the year award was to Tronte. I can't believe how messed up this show is. In order to save Regina, Claudia has to ask Tronte to kill their daughter in order to push Claudia to be more focused and save everyone.
Also, how the hell did Tronte survive the apocalypse? He wasn't even in the bunker. And young Noah talking to Elizabeth. Something tells me that Elizabeth would be the one killing her father. This is one relationship I'm looking forward to getting to know more about.
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@phoenix-calypso The fact that a vast majority (me included) thought that it was the same actor with prosthetics speaks volumes about the amazing casting they've done for the show. Up to one point, I'm gonna start to think that even the actors are closely related to one another.
After S1 I thought it was good but confusing show, after S2 I thought it was great and really well thought out one. Now after rewatching both seasons for the first time I think the show is fucking masterpiece. If they stick the landing with season 3 it could be up there with the best ever.
God, I'm excited for this.
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@steev1st Oh wow I couldn't disagree more about S3. I absolutely loved it and think it was a perfect send-off.
Changing my comment on this to a Perfect 10 because I guess my initial thoughts hurt someone's feelings.
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@whitsbrain Just because you're incapable of following the story doesn't mean its bad.
This seemed like an abrupt, slightly rushed finale. I can't quite put my finger on it other than that. I'm pretty sure there was meant to be a few more episodes to the season, not just two or so but more like four or five, and COVID-19 put a stop to that, and that's why it felt the way it did, which was also a little disorienting.
But despite that, it was surprisingly enjoyable, and that's why I've given it a rating of seven out of ten instead of a six. I certainly wasn't expecting the season to end on a cliffhanger, but I guess it makes sense given that it wouldn't have made sense if it didn't end on a cliffhanger and the Candlemaker was defeated, just like that. I wonder if it still would've ended like that or relatively close to what we got if the season didn't get shortened. Even so, I'm mostly glad that the season is over.
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@legendaryfang56 there was only one more episode planned before shutdown.
bro, where are they going to take this in season 3. im so intrigued, i have no idea!
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@abstractlegend I think Boba might get a spin-off mini series. I hope in S3 we see Din and Bo go back to Mandalore while paralell we get some scenes of Luke training Kiddo. I can't imagine Disney not staying with the Little Guy as he is one of the main sellers for the show.
bro, where are they going to take this in season 3. im so intrigued, i have no idea!
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@abstractlegend watch the trailer after the credits
Mando recruits an old friend to help find coordinates for Moff Gideon and shows he will break many rules if he needs to in order to get Grogu back. The action in this episode was fun and exciting to watch. Mando's face reveal felt anticlimactic in a way that one may have been expecting more from a character who hasn't shown his face until this point in the series. I'm hyped for the seaon finale though. More Mando and Moff action!
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@j_pereira8 He showed his face in the season 1 finale
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@kd6-3-7 It's not filler if it both leads the main character to his objective and provides meaningful insight into the universe that the characters are operating in
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I feel like you are being unfair. Mando is more about the world than the adventures of metal man and child
Maybe it’s going to be an issue in the next episode, but Mando left his jet pack on the hillside, and never retrieved it. If he had, he would have been able to get to Grogu in time.
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@linrey "If he had, he would have been able to get to Grogu in time."
and that's why he had to drop it in the first place. But my guess is he'll still have it. We just didn't see him picking it up.
Mando trying to teach Baby Yoda to be a electrician. Best scene ever.
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@jim222001 Yeah, that made me genuine laugh and think about stupid design decisions - putting that cable box in a place no human sized being can reach...
Let's get the elephant out of the room now - Gina Carano needs to go. Her acting ability isn't exactly the best, sure, but combined with being the worst performer on the show she's also an awful person in a franchises whose modus operadi since 1977 has been one of inclusion and tolerance. And it's a shame too cause Cara Dune is a great character who has a ton of potential - a recast would do wonders.
Outside of that obvious, glaring frustration, this is another great episode, and one that showcases Carl Weathers' ability to direct action and puppetry extremely well. He treats his episode with a light touch, going along for the ride with a healthy dose of humor for good measure. All of the plot dumps and questions the episodes raise seem to indicate we are heading into Episode IX setup, which may divide some fans but I appreciate the sequel trilogy love (and other Legends love at the end of episode) just as much as original trilogy and prequel trilogy. Overall another solid entry in a much better season.
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@legionwrex You people are able to separate the character from the actress or artist from the art when its one of your own, but if its someone you disagree with on a political level you want blood. Pathetic. You're so far programmed to hate anyone whose opinion is not your own you can't even watch them ACT in a sci-fi show. You're saying that people who don't confirm to your opinions don't deserve to make a living acting. That type of thinking is honestly quite Imperial of you, Try to take a moment to reflect on that.
Also I'm not taking her side, but freedom of speech is a thing, no matter if I agree of not.
Let's get the elephant out of the room now - Gina Carano needs to go. Her acting ability isn't exactly the best, sure, but combined with being the worst performer on the show she's also an awful person in a franchises whose modus operadi since 1977 has been one of inclusion and tolerance. And it's a shame too cause Cara Dune is a great character who has a ton of potential - a recast would do wonders.
Outside of that obvious, glaring frustration, this is another great episode, and one that showcases Carl Weathers' ability to direct action and puppetry extremely well. He treats his episode with a light touch, going along for the ride with a healthy dose of humor for good measure. All of the plot dumps and questions the episodes raise seem to indicate we are heading into Episode IX setup, which may divide some fans but I appreciate the sequel trilogy love (and other Legends love at the end of episode) just as much as original trilogy and prequel trilogy. Overall another solid entry in a much better season.
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@legionwrex So a few points here:
a) Yes, Carano isn't the most convincing actress - funny thing is that people saying it were labeled sexist less than a year ago
b) It's sad that she has fallen victim to all the recount stuff
c) It is even more sad that I actually know about it not being eligible to vote in the US, since I am not a US citizen nor do I live in the US
With that being said I need to get something off my chest that has been boiling for months now:
You can't freaking have it both ways! You can't say everyone has to be allowed to say what they want and then crucify people for doing it.
You should take a hard look at the situation in your country and then take a look at the situation of countries in which people separate their political, personal and professional lifes.
Yes, people in my country disagree with each other as well, and we do have different oppinions. And if we don't share those we probably won't go out together or start a family together.
But just because we have opposite oppinions or even think the other persons oppinions to be stupid doesn't mean that we call their employer and demand they get fired (Which you are doing here) and never ever get hired for anything ever again (which you are doing as well).
It is one thing to tell people that an actor/actress is a bad choice because of reasons when they are being cast. But calling for a recast because you don't like the conspiracy theories they believe in is just making a double standard.
All you are doing by callign for peoples head for believing in this bullshit is reaffirming their belief that people who speak up against the supposed conspiracy get silenced.
Let's get the elephant out of the room now - Gina Carano needs to go. Her acting ability isn't exactly the best, sure, but combined with being the worst performer on the show she's also an awful person in a franchises whose modus operadi since 1977 has been one of inclusion and tolerance. And it's a shame too cause Cara Dune is a great character who has a ton of potential - a recast would do wonders.
Outside of that obvious, glaring frustration, this is another great episode, and one that showcases Carl Weathers' ability to direct action and puppetry extremely well. He treats his episode with a light touch, going along for the ride with a healthy dose of humor for good measure. All of the plot dumps and questions the episodes raise seem to indicate we are heading into Episode IX setup, which may divide some fans but I appreciate the sequel trilogy love (and other Legends love at the end of episode) just as much as original trilogy and prequel trilogy. Overall another solid entry in a much better season.
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@legionwrex I don’t like Trump either. If that is why you don’t like Carano. I can’t picture anyone else playing the part though.
POOR MYTHROL!
Another fun episode following Mando and the Child back to Nevarro. I've got to say: I like how Nevarro has changed. Not only has Cara Dune cleaned up the town, but they've established a school in place of the cantina! How awesome is that?
Baby Yoda's (the Child) shenanigans were fun. First Mando gets him to help rewire the ship (I'm surprised he didn't die from the electric shock) and later steals some macaroons from a kid at school. Just all-round hilariously cute!
This episode also gave us some insight into Moff Gideon's plans. He's got some weird science experiments going on and when Doctor Pershing says "M-count", I'm guessing he was talking about Midichlorians. I mean, they're stealing midi-chlorians from Baby Yoda and injecting them into other people?. Is Moff Gideon trying to make force-sensitive super-soldiers?
My only complaint about this episode would be the conflict. Although the episode delivers a crap ton of new mysteries, our heroes kill stormtroopers way too easily, with the sense that there wasn't any tension and I never felt they were in any peril.
Overall, it's a fun episode, with new mysteries that I can't wait to find the answers to in future episodes. Also, I haven't forgotten about Ahsoka! PLEASE, SHOW ME AHSOKA!
IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK ON NEVARRO.
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@clobby-clobsters Perhaps the Proto First Order is using the midichlorians to create Snoke? I remember having that theory after episode 1 of the series and this episode seemed to support that. Seemed like in the tank were possibly failed clones.
Very disliked Dave Filoni's appearance. Do not want to see him in any acting roles. They have to always cast professional actors and completely forget to use their families, nieces, etc for acting roles. These are not your personal home videos. It completely takes you out of the story.
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@atlantis14 The only reason is that you recognized him, otherwise you would've thought nothing of it. All X-Wing fighters in the prison episode were episode directors as well. The results are just like every acting in the original movies: normal and otherwise totally fine.
Awesome season starter. That final shot tho... wow
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@mattdeezly1996 finally seeing a Krayt Dragon on screen, that famous armour, the final reveal that Boba Fett is alive
No joke, this single episode is the best Star Wars I've seen since the throne room sequence in Return of the Jedi. I can't think of anything else that comes close except maybe the ending of Rogue One.
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@xaliber Compared to the prequels and the new movies. Yes, this is StarWars.
Finally something actually happened after they dragged the season for absolutely nothing.
After four mediocre episodes in a row with three of them being filler, this episode is decent enough. Those previous episodes serve no actual purpose other than waiting for the plot to trigger itself by that call.
The dialogues in this episode could be better and so could the way the scenes are cut, especially for the first half. People seem too eager to join The Mando in his quest for the sake of moving the story. However the last 5-10 the minutes is quite watchable with enough tense. The brute killing in the last scene seems to suggest they're going with the "evil Empire" cliche, but I wish they could do better than that next episode.
It seems like the story just started to be set in motion and we will be left with more questions as Season 1 ends, which unfortunately seems to be Disney+ business model: just make cute Baby Yoda stuff for moms and Star Wars reference for dads, figure things out later in Season 2.
On positive notes, it's nice that they attempt to do more world-building like shocktroopers having signature tattoo, each Imperial province having their own insignia, and the Imperial warlord trying to convince people that the world is better with colonialism.
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@xaliber why do you bother even watching if you don’t like it and just want to complain. :person_shrugging_tone1: I’m quite enjoying it.
The music in this one increased the anxiety and emotion to a huge degree. It was like a Trent Reznor/Atticus Ross Star Wars score at times! Honestly, it was making my heart thump.
I knew Order 66 from the perspective of this show was going to pack a punch, and it was as powerful as expected. Did Rex shed a tear as he tried to resist? Ahsoka's escape was maybe all a bit contrived but was also true to her creative nature. Mace Windu pointedly addressing her as a "citizen" was really cold.
I did love the way she subverted expectations upon rescuing Maul, and then telling him no they were not going to work together - you're just my diversion.
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@lefthandedguitarist Did Rex shed a tear as he tried to resist?
He most definately did. That was an amazingly emotional scene. Take into account the conversation they both had just prior and it's gut wrenching.
Welcome back, Clone Wars! While the members of the Bad Batch kind of feel like they're ticking of a list of stereotypes, they are fun to watch. And this series always excelled with episodes focused on clones, they can provide some of the best stories. I particularly liked the tension between the "regs" and these guys.
Great tease about Echo being behind it all. It can be difficult to keep track of who's who with the clones, but members of the original Domino Squad did stick with me.
I can't believe how good the show looks now. The technology and artistry and experience involved has moved it up to a new level.
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@lefthandedguitarist Agreed. They really upped the visuals AND the audio in these episodes. Even the change to the end credits theme sounds awesome.
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