A two and a half hours boring, depressing mess. In short, Zack Snyder.
And the dream sequences take more screen time then the actual BvS fight. Who thought this was a good idea?
As far as I am concerned this is the ONLY version of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice that exists. That other thing that Warner Bros. released in theatres is good but isn't a patch on what Snyder originally created. Snyder took an awful lot of flack for the theatrical release, but whatever you think about him as a film maker, you will have sympathy for him once you see how the studio took a hacksaw to his movie. This Ultimate Edition isn't simply another scene or two which adds 30 minutes but doesn't change the movie, it is a sprinkling of expansions to scenes throughout that solve its much maligned choppiness and lack of flow. Apart from the improved editing which allowed the film to breathe, this version of the movie makes you care about the characters more, especially Superman. Following the journey of Clarke Kent in more detail, seeing him actually do some investigative journalism, and understanding his motivations makes a huge difference. This is especially the case in his death at the end of the movie. Without earlier shots of him doing "Superman" things such as helping people after the Capitol Building bomb, as was the case in the theatrical release, I simply didn't care when he died. With the added tidbits in the Ultimate Edition, Supermans sacrifice brought me to floods of tears. Even though I knew what was coming, the gut punch was overpowering! This character expansion also benefited his nemesis Lex Luthor, who with just a few additional scenes (that he isn't even necessarily in), transforms from a spoilt brat into a criminal mastermind. While it was previously suspected, it now becomes clear that he has his fingerprints on everything, from the Africa scene by blackmailing the witness, to intercepting Wallace Keefe's cheques from Bruce Wayne, and Keefe himself being an unknowing puppet of Luthor carrying a bomb in the led lined wheelchair so Superman couldn't see it. Overall, my recommendation if you haven't seen Batman V Superman yet, or if you saw it in the theatres and hated it, is to give this version a watch. I loved it.
One of the best superhero movies of all time! Zack Snyder brought the comic book experience to the big screen! A+
Epicness defined. The movie is everything a comics fan would want. Yes, it is the first comic book movie that was actually made for the fans of the comics. Eisenberg's take on Luthor is spot on, Affleck as Batman is plainly brutal, and awesome. Gadot's little development was enough for us to see the Amazonian Warrior in it's full glory. Cavill delivered an amazing performance as a real conflicted Superman.
In my own personal opinion, and I know a lot of people disagree on this one, and I don't know why but I'm gonna say it, I LOVED the movie, it had everything I wanted to see, it had the batman I always wanted to see, Superman's amazing as always, wonder woman stole most of the show, overall, the movie deserves more reviews, it was DC heaven.
Thank you for making porn for all of my senses, and for taking me on an emotional rollercoaster.
And for making me fall in love with Gal Gadot.
And for awakening the part of me I thought I had lost.
All in all, critics are too simple minded to understand the epic scale of this movie and all hidden elements in it.
Cinematography, acting, music, effects, plot, and easter eggs are incredibly well done and I will see it at least 2 more times in cinema.
For those concerned with critics' opinions - don't be. Just go to the theatre, forget about everything and let the movie consume you completely.
Batman v Superman The Ultimate Edition is far superior to the theatrical release. Take a bathroom break. Line up your snacks. Settle in for a three-hour film experience that is a worthy successor to "Man of Steel."
This movie is going to be remembered for a really long time in history.
First of all, too long.
Second, one moment Batman wants to kill Superman, the next moment they're best buddies. Just because their mother have the same name. Ok. Great logic.
Third, did they need to include wonder woman? The movie ended with Bruce Wayne going full Avengers-mode and telling WW to go find her meta-ultra-friends to fight what Lex Luthor called up on Krypton Skype.
The idea behind the movie was good (what are the boundaries of a super-human? Who does he answer to? Does he have a conscience?), the result not so much. We don't need a DC Avengers' saga.
Great! I liked the theatrical version a lot... but this is a lot better movie.
Just one word that I can describe this movie, amazing.
I've already watched it twice and I'm going' to watch it over and over again.
Epic. One of the best superhero movies.
I gave myself time to wait a little bit to watch this movie two weeks after the premiere. It was in an excellent 300 seats movie theatre with only 3 people at 8:00 P.M. The movie, as a visual spectacle, works as such: excellent photography, good acting, very nice VFX's, and excellent music. The problem, is the narrative. For a movie, it's a bloody mess, that actually would work GREAT on a miniseries, with enough time to expand the plots and flesh out the characters. I didn't have problems to follow the story because I'm used to read books with hugely disjointed or dreamy plots. But this is a visual experience, and that sets a whole different level of expectations for the CASUAL viewer. DC Comics buffs won't have problems to find the virtues of this movie (and I must confess myself a fan of Batman) but I have to point out that the couple that was in the theatre with me, left the movie about 1 hour into the show, so I ended up watching the rest alone. I'm buying this Blu-ray (hopefully a director's cut) for my collection, but to be honest, BVSDJ needs one hour more of exposition and plot to really tell the story right. This movie will lose money, that's for sure. I just hope that fact doesn't mess with the rest of WB's plans, because I'm really looking forward for Suicide Squad and Aquaman (albeit not James Cameron's, sadly). As a bottom line: I'm sure there's a good BVSDJ movie in there, that was probably left on the cutting floor, and damn, I would loved that one!.
Great film, loved it , 10/10
I lost 15 years of my life watching this movie.
Not as bad as everyone was leading us to think. The first half is a bit confusing — too much happening in sequence without truly being sequencial, specially because it includes dreams — but still scream-worthy comic tribute. The second half is the best, goes by super fast and gets you wondering where are the other 3 hours of movie that you need. (I guess, for a franchise, it's the best feeling they can hope for). Ben Affleck is a great Bruce Wayne but Gal Gadot is the real deal, Diana couldn't be better on screen.
It sucks, even though not as much as I would have thought. Snyder’s kitsch aesthetics and bombastic directing style work well with this kind of material, if he only tried to make things entertaining for once. Why does it always need to be so lifeless...
The biggest problem is that he tries to do too many things and set up too many stories at once, only to end up failing at each. The buildup to Batman and Superman’s fights makes no sense, and its resolution is even more ridiculous. Not to mention that what is supposed to be the climax is one of the dullest monster fights ever.
Affleck works strangely well as an older, dumber, and far more tired Bruce Wayne. His Batman has little to do with the character’s usual traits, but I am alright with each film adaptation giving a different twist. His introduction scene was good, even though he looked like a shabby wrestler in his costume. Gal Gadot’s acting is distractingly awful, but the biggest problem with her character is that she serves no use to the plot. On the other hand, Jeremy Irons earned himself a sticker for his sharp and charming take on Alfred. We are tired of the teddy bear butlers we have seen up to this point.
Watched the "Ultimate Edition" and stand by my original thoughts about this film. Even with its overly complicated plot and occasional loose ends, it's cohesive enough to support Zack Snyder's amazing visuals and action.
I've always been more attracted to DC Comics than Marvel. Which is why it's been a bummer that other than Nolan's "Dark Knight" trilogy, DC has under-performed. I did like "Man of Steel". Its scope and incredible action, to the point of almost being too much, was memorable. Its scenes have stuck with me as much as any other action movie of recent years.
I've never gone into a super hero movie expecting an incredibly tight story but always with an expectation of amazing sights and effects. And that is exactly what Zach Snyder serves up here. The positives of the film far outweighed the negatives for me. The opening action that follows Bruce Wayne racing through Metropolis, a scene stitched into Zod's terraforming attack from "Man of Steel", was inspired. And I have to say, Ben Affleck's portrayal of Bruce Wayne and Batman is nothing short of fantastic. I thought that Batman would be flat and uninteresting here, but he's been positioned as a capable member among the gods being assembled for the Justice League. I loved his hand-to-hand fights with mob members. There's a great moment when a police officer spots the Dark Knight clinging to the ceiling of a darkened room. Batman is truly scary here and called the Devil by the very people he's saved.
Superman has his own set of problems. Time has passed since the destruction in Metropolis and many blame him for the thousands killed during his battle with Zod. The political underpinnings and moral dilemmas presented here weren't exactly heady, but were accentuated by the sheer rage of Bruce Wayne and his suspicion of Superman's motives. Or at least what Superman would be capable of if dissatisfied with something or anything occurring in the world.
Yes, the fight between Superman and Batman is memorable and worth the price of admission. The performance of Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, Jr. is not. While superheroes fly at supersonic speeds, deflect pummeling with iron and concrete, and even survive nuclear explosions, the most difficult thing to believe was that this version of Lex Luthor could plan a trip to the bathroom much less the destruction of Superman.
The final battle doesn't live up to the first half of the movie, even though Superman and Batman are joined by a feisty and very satisfying appearance from Wonder Woman. She practically steals the final scenes as she attacks the final "boss". She gets hammered but shakes it off with a smirk, clearly enjoying the chaos.
I'm going to be a bit disappointed with a lot of the criticism this movie will receive. There are some problems with story continuity, not to mention the sloppy way that the recruitment of future Justice League members is staged. Personally, I'm not exactly overwhelmed with the film, but I find myself repeatedly impressed by Zack Snyder's ability to convey amazing sights and action. I guess I'm stating that I will dismiss some loose ends for the adrenaline rush of great action and exciting visuals.
This movie was great Ben is the best Batman ever!!!
I will point out the best things according to me without spoiling and ruining the excitement . As a demanding person by nature as I am, I will present my point of view. Being aware of the recent unexpected and unjustified hatred towards the whole project, I decided to point out 5 best things about the movie and why you shouldn’t hesitate to check it out.
This is a review for the Ultimate Cut (IMAX) version released in March 2021. Experience is crazy!
"You're not brave. Men are brave."
This deserves a score bump after watching the ultimate edition. I really like the way Batman looked and how strong he felt while fighting. I definitely have some issues with the film such as how many lines Superman has considering his name is in the title, and Batman's detective skills are a little weak for someone who has been at it for a long time. Snyder knows how to make everything look really good, just could use some help in the writing department.
There's only so much additional context/runtime can do to put lipstick on Zack Snyder's deformed pig of a movie. The first hour, while absolutely depressing, is surprisingly coherent, but at the 1 hour mark, the wheels fall off as the script becomes laughable. Was he trying to make the DCEU in the same vein as The Boys on Amazon? Superman and Batman are assholes and both are unlikable. Who am I supposed to rooting for here? It just turns into disaster porn, 2012 style. Cave Troll is still hilarious. This wasn't as painful when I first saw this as I'm now able to watch bad movies and celebrate the clusterfluff that they are.
This movie is the superhero equivalent of watching a WWE match.
It's dumb, theatrical, fake, sensationalist and schlocky, but it presents itself as hard, cool and meaningful.
So, it's really no surprise that critics trashed this, and certain portions of the audience embraced it.
Pros:
- The action sequences that don’t involve a lot of CGI are great.
- Ben Affleck’s performance as Batman & Jeremy Irons as Alfred. I’ll also say that I like Cavill as Superman more than most.
- Some visual flair at a few points
- Score, especially the Wonder Woman theme.
Cons:
- Incoherent. It has too many threads, many scenes don’t connect to each other or don’t progress the ‘story’. We know it’s possible to do a narrative that resolves around a bunch of subplots, but in that case you need a strong throughline. Just look at Infinity War and how Thanos & the infinity stones tie the entire movie together. This film just has no structure to it, and whatever structure that might’ve been in there at some point is removed through the inclusion of things like Wonder Woman, Doomsday, unnecessary dream sequences, etc.
- Some really nonsensical story choices. I’m not just talking about the Martha scene and how that becomes unintentionally hilarious because of its execution, or the spear scene with Lois, or the death of Superman which has no dramatic weight. Let’s also not forget how the (hypocritical) motivations they’d built up for the two heroes became irrelevant when they decided to just have the villain kidnap Superman’s mom and thereby force him to fight Batman.
- Mischaracterized & underdeveloped main characters. Especially Batman and Lex Luthor aren’t faithful to the spirit of what those characters should be.
- The final action sequence is a visual assault on the eyes, and I don’t mean that in a positive way.
- Jesse Eisenberg’s acting is awful, and his performance doesn’t fit with the tone of the film. Gal Gadot’s also pretty bad, but she isn’t in the film that much, so I have less of a problem with that.
- Visually ugly. Yes, I know that’s unpopular to say, and I acknowledge that there are some visual highlights, which look great in a clipshow or trailer. However, when you take out a scene, especially one that takes place during daytime, it’s not exactly a good looking film.
- I respect the tone that this film was going for. I’m perfectly fine with taking a more realistic approach to these characters. We’ve seen it work in The Dark Knight trilogy and the Daredevil show. The difference is that they still knew how to keep the pace up, despite having a more serious dramatic tone. This film is painfully slow.
- Some of the dialogue is really overwritten, trying too hard to be lofty and deep.
3.5/10
2,5 hours of my life I won't get back. What a horrible movie this was.
Martha! Martha! Like wtf?
The only good thing about this movie was that I stopped with the super heroes genre after this one. It freed up some time for decent movies where the screenwriters don't think their viewers are idiots who will accept everything.
I had zero expectations from this as a whole but was pleasantly surprised going forward. But Ben c'mon please let go, it's over, stop trying to act
A great cult classic. Full of emotion and depth.
An improvement over the theatrical version, the Ultimate Edition is a better cut with some narrative patches, but not yet a great movie. Some scenes from the original release are trimmed and others totally missed (some very important for character development, as the fist fighter that Wayne helps in his match), as expected, because there is a limit of assets that you can have on the disc. However, the problem persists: the narrative is still very much disjointed and chaotic, with those lame dream sequences trying to serve as plot points and all the main characters developing telepathy by the third act, so they "know" where to go and what to do without exchanging a single word or even a glance. I would gladly give up half the screen time devoted to the action sequences in order to add more dialogue and clarify tons of plot holes and get rid of so many character contradictions, not to mention why in heaven and hell Luthor decided to put all these events in motion. When it comes to franchises, every director must play with the toys at hand, be grateful of having the chance and return them into the box in one piece, so others can play after him. So, you don't kill characters just to have fun (Kimmy Olsen), or alter a half a century old geography setting to place two N.Y.-size cities one across the other because it pleases you, just to name a few. Snyder is a great visual artist, and really I do happen to enjoy his films in a visual sense, but I don't like his vision for the DC's Extended Universe, and I can only really hope someone takes it from his hands before we end up with Darkseid as the antagonist in less than two movies (the Mother Boxes and the "dream" are so obvious). Remember: it took Marvel almost a decade just to place the chess pieces on the board for one single game with Thanos. After Thanos... it will be hard to find an all-powerful adversary. Warner is making a disservice to DC trying to play catch up and introducing their villain so soon. Take 10 years and a dozen movies to develop settings for the Darkseid battle. Enjoy the game, and let us enjoy it too.
Hot take: Eisenberg portrays a GREAT Lex Luthor.
Let's make one thing clear, the phrase "it's a movie for fans", is not an argument, let's go to the point.
Director Zack Snyder confirms here that he is a bad director, he doesn't know how to tell stories, he is so desperate to introduce the Justice League that the movie ended up being totally overstuffed and nonsense at some point. The montage of the movie is just HORRIBLE, like... one scene there's some tense moment and then suddenly, the screen turns to black and cut to a stupid scene of Lois Lane investigating something or Diana Prince checking her e-mail. Bruce Wayne's nightmare sequences are just empty, stupid and pointless.
The dark tone of the film is not necessarily bad, is not meant to be a joyfull film.
I still don't understand WHAT THE F*** is Laurence Fishburne doing in this movie, basically the same thing in "Man of Steel", nothing.
The movie it's so rushed for a 2 hours and 40 minutes that the epic battle between the 2 greatest heroes ends up being nothing but disappointing, and almost laughable at the end. Transposing scenes from the comics to the big screen is cool, but where's the context on them ? it's a buy fan ticket.
Doomsday........... Horrible, terrible, a visual rape, an insult to the cinema.
Lex Luthor................ no words worth it.
Wonder Woman: 5 minutes in the film and 5 as Diana Prince. But Gadot does a good job
Superman, it's actually better than in the previous film.
Batman is the best thing from this film, a bloodthirsty dark knight who can finally move his neck. It's the batman i've always wanted to see in the movies. Nice work Ben Affleck.
The other good thing from this film is Hans Zimmer's glorious score... Hans Zimmer is the god from this movie.
Conclusion: Could be the best superhero movie of all time, but ends up being worst as many of.
Too long, often boring, dark atmosphere and more like an psycho-drama-thriller than adventure-action-sci-fi movie. I expected more and was a little bit disappointed from this movie. I was really sure to give it 10 points score but I can't give it more than 7 and that's only for the final battle and Wonder Woman, otherwise it would be 6. There are two B v S scenes and that's really not much for the movie called Batman v Superman.
And the end with 10 mins funeral...well...another cliché we saw too many times. We know he cannot die because of another movies and series and yet we have to watch 10 minutes funeral...why?
And what about Lex and Crypton ship? The most-advanced tech inside the ship and you can access the system with the Zod skin on your fingers? No other bio-metrics check? With all that technology? WTF?
I believe we fans deserve more than this.
The movie feels like a forced publicity stunt for the Justice League movie, OMG, it's all so forced!!! And the Batman visions??? WTF WAS THAT?!?!?!?
Thoughts after leaving the cinema but before reading critics reviews: The plot actually very coherent, I had no problems following it whatsoever. Things happened for specific reason, they were deliberate choices that moved the plot along as opposed to randomly contrived events. Not only that, the narratives that were occurring concurrently made for a comprehensive movie that was multi-faceted and set up the future movies well. Complaints on my end were negligible, really not worth mentioning.
Thoughts after reading some critics complaints: I'm sorry that you don't have the brain capacity to sit down for 2.5 hours and pay attention to a movie with multiple narratives to tell a story. I'm sorry that you don't like films that deviate from common Hollywood narrative structures. I'm sorry that you keep comparing it to summer-blockbustery Marvel movies that are meant to reel in everyone and their dog and have become so formulaic and vanilla that my 9 year-old brother is getting sick of them. I'm sorry that you're not comparing it to Watchmen. I'm sorry that you wanted to hate this movie from the beginning.
My reconciled thoughts: All of this aside, I thought it was a comic book movie through and through. It's a real service to the fans who pay for comics and keeps the industry alive (also see Amy Robinson's review on BvS). Despite some deviating creative choices, for me, the essence of the characters stay true and pure to the heart of who they are and what they represent. Henry Cavill's Clark Kent/Superman rings to what a modern day iteration of him would be, not whatever New 52 has done with him. They really captured the depth and breadth of 75 years of Lois/Clark's love in the movie. Even the tension between Bruce and Diana is right on the money and calls back to the awesomeness of the pairing that is Batman/Wonder Woman that we all got a taste of in JLU and Blackest Night. Batffleck's Batman/Bruce is the Bruce after Jason's death, before Tim came along, y'know? The movie leaves a whole lot of room for the future Justice Leaguers and maybe even beyond to legacy movies where mantle is passed on.
Also, if we got like 5 minutes of Jason Momoa's Aquaman instead of 10 seconds I would have died and gone to heaven right there on the spot.
I'm not going to take the film's title into account here, but now it seems fitting. This movie started and I kept thinking that, while certainly not without flaws, people are being overly harsh. Overall I liked the first two acts decently enough. One scene in particular was really strong and interesting around the halfway point.
But then the final act showed up and all the smaller issues I had suddenly grew larger and more severe. They felt just like the boss battle because as I judged the problems, it took in that problem to become a bigger, stronger problem. I wish I had had kryptonite to kill the growth.
Oh well. Superman is still portrayed really well, Wonder Woman looks pretty interesting for a future film, and I like the new Alfred. I did not care for Lex Luthor much at all. I don't always want to see another crazy villain. I liked him before because he is normally written as a super smart jerk who has reasons.
And then there's Batman. He never does anything that I outright despise I suppose, but at the same time he never really does anything interesting either. In case you didn't know how this went down, we do get yet another monotonous recall to his parent's death.
Oh, geeze, I just gave away a huge spoiler there didn't I. Now Batman is going to show up and shoot me to death with a gun, since apparently this Batman is cool with that.
Ok, so first thing. If you didn't like Man of Steel you WILL NOT like this movie.
This movie will also attract a lot of hate, but if you are a person that likes movies they like without listening to others, read on for my impressions.
I enjoyed it for the most part and went in completely blind (avoided all trailers/reviews/articles), there were a lot of great scenes and visuals but also a lot of terrible/boring scenes and visuals in a less but still substantial volume. Now some of the really great shots may have been spammed in the trailers so won't have the "wow" factor for people that watched all the trailers 50 times, but for me they were great.
A bit of overuse of CGI at points and some was bad, while other scenes had great effects. Some of the characters were fantastic like Ben's Batman, Jesse's Lex and Laurence's Perry White, while others should really move along... Lois looking at you.
I did find myself getting a bit excited for some of the fight scenes and "Justice League" setup. I will mention the lack of real "flow" for the first two acts of the films and I honestly think (hope at least) that if they release a "directors cut" it would solve the broken flow of the first two acts.
It may get called "Bad", but it's no where close to being Fantasic Four bad.
Just thanks Zack Snyder. The best superhero movie I've ever seen in my life.
Hard to enjoy with all these plotholes, either known or newly introduced. Here's a list:
1) Glasses are a perfect disguise
2) A hoarse voice is a good disguise, too.
3) Who's that muscular journalist?
4) Remember that dangerous alien ship? Yeah, let's just leave it there for everybody to enter.
5) Two guys above law complaining that each other is acting above law.
6) Where was that green stone coming from, again?
7) Was Jesse Eisenberg sure he is not on set for Zombieland or the Social Network?
8) "I can hear my girlfriend fart from 3000 km away, cool ey? Yo, where's my mom?"
9) Let's not shoot his ma until this bat dude is here.
10) US military stressing morals & ethics (after using drones). Seriously? oÔ
11) Martha apparently is the new "Adrian".
12) Aquaman. Full stop. Jason Momoa. Full stop.
13) Speaking of cast: Props to Henry "Muscle suit" Cavill. Boo to Jeremy "You're just not Michael Caine" Irons and Ben "always sobbing because my parents are still dead" Affleck
And that list goes on. What a waste of time...
"Your Mom's Martha?
Dude! MY Mom's Martha too!
We should be friends now!"
Are you fucking kidding me?
So, I’ve had my doubts about this since the infamous Doomsday trailer, but I wasn’t focusing on them, because I wanted to give the movie the benefit of the doubt. I’ve watched some spoiler free reviews that voiced by exact concerns, but mostly people were not passionately hating on the movie but saying that it was okay, passable. So I went into it with significantly lowered expectations but with naive hopes to be pleasantly surprised. And damn, was this movie bad. Like I’ve never actually seen more scattered, boring, messy and undeserving of its title or the hype around it superhero movie in my life. To be fair, I’ve never seen that horrible Fantastic 4 reboot, but pretty sure I’d put them close.
The party conversation we’ve all seen in the trailer is literally the only fucking conversation between Batman and Superman prior them butting heads. And it completely lacks the expected tension because, wait for it, they don’t even know each other's secret identities like the trailer made us idiots to believe. They are just dudes at a party.
The desert nightmare sequence holds no real relevance to the plot. It’s obviously just a blatant excuse for batman to kick some ass. Although I've enjoyed the fighting style and the visuality (and physicality) of it, very reminiscent of the Batman Arkham City I’m currently playing. The following Flash cameo was kinda awkward? And so was the Flash himself. (Though not even half as awkward as seeing Aquaman clearly holding his breath underwater.)
The placement of so many Justice League’ members as side characters or in small cameos is butchering and disrespecting them from the get go. Do we care for them with no build up? Is it right to see them in passing before their respectable movies? No fucking way.
Speaking of caring. Do we actually care for the Batman and Superman themselves and the feud between them? Is anyone seriously satisfied by them fighting because of Luthor’s jokeresque plan instead of their moral differences? Also isn’t Lex supposed to be a sane clever businessman and not a hysterical screechy chaotic clown that has zero believable reasoning behind him hating Superman - a person he had no history or opposing goals with whatsoever - so hard he orchestrates an explosion and create an indestructible monster from his blood (???) in order to defeat him; and everyone fucking acts like his psychotic behaviour is to be expected.
Even the Bats vs Sups fight that was supposed to be the core of this movie isn’t that good. They pummel each other (mostly Batman pummels Superman, let’s be fair), but, like I said, why should we fucking care? They are no one to each other, and frankly they are no one to us. These versions of Superman and Batman haven’t earned the audience rooting for them. I love the idea of those two larger than life characters fighting each other, but damn I hate the execution.
Superman is a fucking emotionless robot; Batman is a ragged killing machine. One of those concepts kinda works.
Why would Superman call his mother Martha… Come oooon...
And that’s what stopped Batman? Lots of people have that name. If Luthor's mom was named Martha, would they all the heroes shake hands with him?
“Why would you say that name??!!” barks Batman for the millionth time. What an asshat. The first time Lois’ interference was welcome.
People say the movie is dark - some pose it as a flow, others are convinced it’s a good thing and mostly bring up Marvel into their argument, like there’s no shades of darkness or any tone for that matter, like there are just those two extremities, and obviously those who claim this movie is too dark wanted a pop-corn flick (not saying all Marvel movies are all that, not at all). In my opinion this film is not necessary dark, but it is certainly lifeless.
The soundtrack is more off-putting than Lex’s hair. I cheered when Superman died.
I honestly never expected this to be as easy to follow, but all over the place and insufferably boring as it was. Anyone who isn’t absolutely stupid could have written the script for this, the plot is so shallow and the dialogues bad. The movie isn’t intelligent not it is creative. And neither it’s passionate. Definitely wasn’t written by a fan of comic books or at least of their heroes. This movie is just a dumb money maker. And because of that and the false hype it created it should absolutely fail. It won’t though, because people are dumb.
Like it for what it is. This isn't some happy go lucky shiny Marvel film with RDJ quipping his way through and appeasing the masses. This is classic DC darkness. It shows the side of both our heroes that needed to be aired. We finally saw the weight that Superman has to carry on his shoulders. Despite my initial reservations, Affleck did a fantastic job in this role and Gadot's Wonder Woman was also a pleasure to watch. She wasn't the wispy sex symbol I feared but instead a true force to be reckoned with including a hint of layers yet to be revealed.
Cannot wait for the directors cut.
The thing about the movie is that it assumes audiences are familiar with the characters so it doesn't bother giving you much in terms of their backstories. This would be a legitimate comparison to the MCU--Marvel built up their audience's connection with individual characters in solo movies. The DCEU skips that and though I think it's possible that you can start with a group movie then branch into backstories and still be able to make the audience connect with a character, BvS needed to work on that a bit more. The movie tries to intrigue you about the characters so that you'll want to watch the other DCEU movies to find out about them.
But that being said, BvS felt like a love letter from DC to their fans. It felt like DC was saying, "Here's what you've been waiting for, you deserve this! I'm giving you all the treats!" I'm not sure why people keep saying that the first part was difficult to follow (I had no problems keeping track of what was happening). The pacing IS fast but if you pay attention (which, why wouldn't you pay attention to a movie you paid for) then you should have no problems.
I had an easier time connecting emotionally to Superman here than I did in MoS. You could really feel how 20 years fighting crime in Gotham jaded Batman and chipped away what little optimism he had left for fighting crime. And the cameos of the rest of the Justice League! The cameos were everything!!
The movie's not perfect but it's definitely an improvement over MoS.
Fisrt half is confusing, second half is wonderful
We want Bale back!!! He is the real Batman
Excellent movie.Ben Affleck,Gal Gadot,Henry Cavill is amazing and Jesse Eisenberg great.
This film is awesome. The Best Of 2016.
Just watch the ultimate edition it is way better than the original version.
A disappointing mess from the opening credits
What a meandering mess of a movie! (And yes, I've watched the extended edition in it's full 3 hour glory, the one that is supposed to fix things from the theatrical cut).
This movie is about humanity confronting their own inferiority in the universe. Coming to terms with an idea: "we're not alone in the universe and we're not the most powerful beings either." That's that feeling of powerlessness that turn good men cruel. Not just about a bad guy that does something bad and the heroes have to stop him. It's about heroes question their own heroism, of power been defied, of purpose being defined. This movie represent much more than what it straightforwardly shows. And that's why I loved it.
This will be an Epic movie. Cant wait till friday.
I really Loved Eisenberg's scenes in the trailer. He LIVE his play, I can see it on this trailer. The "good" next generation of Lex Luthor, GREAT!
The theatrical cut of this was not great. The extended cut is fantastic. Watch the ultimate edition, it totally changed my outlook on this film, the characters and my rating jumped up. Why does DC hate snyder? Whyyyyyyyyy. If I watch all of Snyder's ultimate cuts of these DC movies they are quite possibly the greatest comic book movies out there.
So much better than the theatrical release. The few added and extended scenes add to the story, characters and world this is building. Needs more love but seems to be one of the most misunderstood films.
As a fan of DC Universe I have only one thing to say - thnnk you Zack Snyder for the awesome superhero movie.
What happened mannnn...and Man of Steel was so good.... And then ppphhhffrrrrttt...it started out great and then slowly fizzled... I may give it another shot or maybe not...the Dark Knight may have ruined me on Batman movies
Man of Steel wasn't a bad movie, it just ended up being mediocre. Bvs DoJ was a bad movie. Whoever wrote the script and story should be fired. I get the dark and gritty Batman, but he was downright emotionally unstable. No one could get through to him, even Alfred, with all the reasonable and obvious arguments, but saying his mother's name helped him immediately reconcile all his differences? Am I also to believe that, for 12 years, Superman never made any real attempt to talk to the public? He was in such an emo mood he couldn't figure out maybe he should actually try and tell people his side, his thoughts, or something else? Eisenberg didn't do a bad job, but he didn't really work as Luthor. they basically turned him into a Joker-esque figure, and it didn't fit the feel. They needed a General Zod-Presque villain for the tone of the film. The movie definitely made some attempt at saying something important... but what that is isn't clear.
This movie is such a mess. It's not even worth your time. You would be better off reading the wiki notes for this one. Wonder Woman is the best part of this and the only reason it gets an extra star from me. The actual "Batman Vs. Superman" fight is a joke. It seemed to me more of a film about a pissing contest. I'm so disappointed with this.
considering there are many comments and critics about this movie, I think this is a great movie some people boldly compared to civil war which is unfair considering dc cinematic universe is still in infancy compared to marvel, it certainly has a different tone unlike marvel's which more dark and less humor with no post ending credit gimmick, I personally have a great expectation for the sequel
I saw the extended version.
I kept hearing many people didn't like it, but, I thought it was really good. Not perfect, but, still very good.
Pretty predictable though; I think everyone could've guessed the minute they heard the names of the 2 combatants that of course kryptonite was going to be used (lame), but, for being titled "Batman v Superman", a VERY small percentage of the over 3 hour long film was actually dedicated to them fighting. They had a quick and dirty fight, then predictably teamed up to fight someone else .....
And since when did Wonder Woman have an accent?
The best scene throughout the movie when Doomsday arrived. Batman V Superman fight sucks! If you like to see a better fight between two icons see - Freddy V Jason or Alien V Predator.
As a Fan of Batman AND Superman i loved the movie! I would also love seeing those 2 sitting next to each other and eat some french fries. The Storytelling was a mess, but the Sound and pictures were just AMAZING! 8/10
This was an awesome awesome movie..a cinematic EVENT
Without any spoilers it really followed a lot of the comic lore, and I like how they pulled it together. Ben Affleck is no Christian Bale but luckily the movie doesn't revolve around him, and Henny Cavill is still a good superman, and their combination worked, but the biggest and most interesting surprise was Wonder Woman, who turned out to be a bad ass which I am looking forward to seeing. Forget the critics and watch it for yourself.
I know that any enthusiast of the genre has to watch this movie (like the Green Lantern...shudder...) but I thought this was awful. Maybe the plot setup for the Superman / Batman fight occurred during one of the moments I feel asleep, but I still don't understand why that happened - or how it suddenly stopped happening (that was just so unfeasible).
I quite liked the whacky Lex Luther (even if it wasn't true to the source, and some audience members confused with the Joker). I didn't get Wonder Woman (check out the last fight scence to see which hero gets the biggest beating). The Batman was the dark, broody version, and reminded me of the 1989 version). Superman also tried to be dark - but just seemed to be really frowny all the way through
But the fight scenes just escalated to what I thought was ludicrous levels (does so much bright explosion make the special affects cheaper because the viewers can't see detail).
I went in with low expectations - and feel like there were justified.
Today I could finally see one of the most anticipated moments in the world of superheroes: the "Trinity" from DC Comics, Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman, together at last in a film that opens in style "Universe Extended DC "in theaters.
First, we note the obvious virtues of the film. The first, the music has an incredible soundtrack, made by Hans Zimmer (who reprises of steel -Man Man of Steel-) and Junkie XL. An epic music when required, which helps a lot to do most spectacular scenes. Then we have visual effects, another point very well done. The fight scenes of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, but I do not see them as "the best film" as put at first, are amazing.
Second, we must mention another of the strengths of the film: the actors. Ben Affleck as Batman I like. Do not know if it would be the best Batman, but I would definitely stay good paper. Besides, I do not dislike much that his "Batman" will be one more violent and cruel compared to comics, though certainly divide the fans for long. Jeremy Irons as Alfred charm me with his sarcasm and willingness to help "Batman" in his adventures. It is the closest hotel to comic I've seen. Henry Cavill to repeat as Superman, we could say it was closer to the vision that we could have the comic of the superhero, although it is like my favorite interpretation, that's for Gal Gadot and Wonder Woman, whose appearance, albeit short, left with wanting more for individual film next year. Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, although it is true to narcissistic crazy enemy of Superman, I feel that exaggerated the part of "crazy". In any case, the performances were generally magnified.
Now, the weak point of the film: the script. Do not be fooled, it is generally good, entertaining and understood, and I think that criticism tildarla exaggerating a bit of "bad". Will not go into details to avoid falling into spoilers, but if I tell you: make no mistake, it has its flaws and can not be denied. A couple of scenes that leave some of the main plot, a few moments that I miss them more explanation or a battle that was somewhat forced. It is ridiculous to say that ruins the movie, as there Marvel movies that equal or worst mistakes committed. It's magnificent history, and enjoys entertaining, only could be done better, but leaves a great prelude to what will be "Justice League" in the coming years.
Therefore, it is a great movie, I recommend seeing as this, DC comics and rich universe of superheroes finally have a worthy Cinematic Universe that will make war on Marvel. That if, forget the tone of the "House of Ideas" with his films. This is not another of Iron Man with Captain America paid by Disney. It is another study, another tone. In any case, I recommend watching this movie. For my part, I give it a 7/10.
Like Zach Snyder's crusty underpants, this is a joyless grey mess.
The movie was fair. I was not blown away but also not heavily disappointed. Affleck did a decent job as Batman but Christian Bale is still the best one followed by Michael Keaton.
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This film really has divided opinions of just about everyone who's watched it. My opinion, for what it's worth, is that this film is nowhere near as bad as the negative reviews will have you believe. Is it a great film, probably not but it's certainly a good film and there is a lot that works. Ben Affleck as Batman is phenomenal, definitely the best Batman to date IMO. Gal Gadot is excellent as Wonder Woman, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing her in her own movie. Henry Cavill holds his own as Superman but doesn't quite stand out like the other two. Jesse Eisenberg gives us an interesting twist on the Lex Luther and again IMO does a good job.
One bad point for me is that certain parts of the story seem to just happen without being explained or even giving us a clue as to why they are happening. Maybe I need to watch it again to be clearer on that bit.
I think an amazing part of the film is the fighting scenes...wow! Batman has never looked so animated and...well...bad ass!!! Wonder Woman kicks some propa ass and I think Gal Gadot portrays her brilliantly. There's a bit where she gets smacked down and she looks up, smiles, and jumps straight back into the fight...I loved that bit.
To end this off, I've heard an interesting rumour about where this story will be heading next and if this rumour comes to pass, the DC movie universe will be kinda awesome...time will tell.
Don't let the negative reviews dissuade you, check this film out.
I agree that the main story seems a bit far-fetched and contextless.
But as far as acting goes this movie was great (especially Ben Affleck as Batman). Also the visuals were extremely good and there were a few elements that could get really interesting in future movies. I'm especially referring to the dream sequences with Flash and Robin's suit.
The fighting scenes were done really nicely and the setting war reasonably dark. Also there's the fact that I'm a big Batman fan thus I enjoyed this movie move than others would. And I like how this Batman is more like the one of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight comics.
Please watch the movie yourself because giving opinions. Personally I really enjoyed the movie. Sure, there were moments that you wished they could've done better but overall it is worth a watch.
I thought it was fantastic. Only negatives are I thought that Wonder Woman would have had a bigger part, and there was no explanation about what Doomsday was. No build up. And then he was destroyed too easily.
Also, Batman turned good too easily. Like Anakin does when he became Vader.
I agree with it all. I think I just would have preferred more Doomsday/Wonder Woman development, and less Batman origin story because everyone knows it! Like Spiderman's.
I'm going back tomorrow as well!
I think Captain America is gonna be bigger
The beginning was boring. The story didn't really flow so well (I would love to see the 3 hr version). The action scenes were fun(mostly CGI). I feel this movie should have been split into two different movies but they rushed it for justice League.
Ben was a really good batman (I'm personally not a fan of bale...I like keaton). Lex Luther was very weird in this movie and I just couldn't connect with the character.
One thing I would like to see in the future is a physical villain for the DC superheroes to fight, so that the fighting scenes are not just CGI.
Best Comic book Movie Ever!
First of all: I didn't expect much after Man of Steel!
Second: English is not my native language so please forgive my bad grammar and possible missuse of words or phrases...
That being said, i think it is a bit weird storywise. There were many hard cuts between the scenes (concerning the story) and it was not clear why things happened when it was shown.
In the end i couldn't shake the feeling, that the makers made it up as they went along - just so they could use all the special effects that they already paid for.
Besides that part they seem to be really determined to build a cinematic universe very fast - perhaps a bit too fast.
Why am i thinking this? Because they more or less put 4 origin stories into one film.
1st Batman's Origin
2nd Wonderwomans Origin
3rd The League of Justice
4th Lex Luthor's Origin
If you thought about it and did a bit of research about DC Comics before watching like i did you could expect this - For someone who doesn't have a clue about the original DC Comics (like most people in germany) i think it was not.
So if i think about the time they had for the movie and what they had to tell in it i think they did a solid job. But to be fair: I think without wonderwoman and a less dangerous monster it could have been a better film - they would just have had more time to build a real story - not just fragments of it which the viewer has to piece together himself.
That should be it for the story without spoilering it^^
To the Special Effects:
They seemed to be pretty expensive and they are a lot of fun to watch as long as you don't look too careful.
For Example: The Objects they used to calculate the breaking of glass seemed to be big quarders instead of small pieces (Superman crashing into a skyscraper must have been at least four times the size than he was in the picture to create a glass breaking as it was shown).
In another scene you can't see the skyscrapersthe camera is pointing up and it is in the middle of (Metropolis or Gotham - i am not sure...).
My resume:
If you are a DC-, Batman-, or Superman-Fan you have to see it.
For everyone else: It is a good Action movie with modern Effects, but don't expect it to be the best film you have ever seen.
This movie was way more Lex Luthor vs. Superman than the title. It is a nice twist to it.
First time watching this been on my watchlist for a long time. Didn't expect much from the reviews and ratings but I actually enjoyed it, for a movie that was 3 hours long it actually went by pretty quickly the only scenes that were a bit overdone in my opinion were the dream scenes. The introduction to the characters in the upcoming movie was done pretty nicely. My king Henry Cavill is irreplaceable as Superman I don't know how to describe it he is just perfect and born for this role, Ben Affleck was solid but the actor that suprised me the most was Jesse Eisenberg he embodied that role perfectly. I'm giving this movie a 7.4/10
When I was younger I gave this 9 (maybe 10 if you asked me on certain days). But rewatching this after rewatching the batman (2022) made me realise it's a 6 (and thats me being generous).
So, Batman has a beef with Superman destroying half of Metropolis during his fight with Zod, Lex Luthor tries to create a weapon against Kryptonites - and he raises the anti-Superman tensions.
Honestly, for most of the movie I was too reminded of Batman vs Joker in Dark Knight, the insane giggling, the plotting just to cause chaos... it's really a poor copy. I don't buy Affleck's Batman. He lacks the depth and also the sophistication of Nolan's Batman, and I really disliked seeing him seeing use so many guns. He was too easily swayed by his anger and hatred (all in the name of "justice") - and only the name Martha was able to snap him out of it? Urgh.
So, overall, a rather unoriginal story, characters who remain pretty 2-dimensional... and honestly, the addition of Wonder Woman was more hindering than helping the mood of the movie. Definitely not a movie that whets my appetite for more.
This is a hot take, but I love this movie. I read The Dark Knight Returns for the first time right before watching this, and Batfleck really harkens back to that Dark Knight. I’m also a big fan of this Lex Luthor, however I definitely see why people don’t like him. I really like the Knightmare sequences, as I’m a fan of the “Evil Superman” spin on stories. Overall, I think this one is overhated. 9/10
This movie is far better than it's given credit for. I think a lot of people simply completely misunderstand the story of the movie, and especially misunderstand the Martha scene, and that has completely warped the public reception of this movie. It's a lot better than people give it credit for. If you didn't like this movie, I hope you read this comment and consider rewatching the movie with these things in mind, because I think you'll end up appreciating it a lot more. Also, you MUST watch the Ultimate Edition.
At its core, it's a movie about how humanity reacts to tragedy. Ben Affleck plays a Batman who has been brought to his lowest point after the death of Robin, and then gets driven even further down after he loses a ton of people he cares about in the Metropolis battle from the end of Batman v Superman. This obviously enrages Batman. He doesn't see Superman as a friendly character. He doesn't see Superman as a man. He sees him as a monster. A totally alien, unrelatable threat of a monster whose continued existence brings the earth one step closer to destruction.
Lex Luthor has a similar worldview as Batman, although he takes some different approaches to try to accomplish the same goal. Lex Luthor I think is an interesting character whose story is just completely trashed in the theatrical cut. Lex has this elaborate plan that involves Lois that is shown in much more detail in the Ultimate Cut, and it's such a crucial element to building the story, that the theatrical version really ruins the story by tossing so much of it.
The movie focuses on the point of view from Batman and Lex's perspective that Superman is a threat. So much so, that even when we see things from Superman's perspective, it's all about having him even doubt himself. This is important, because it should push the audience into thinking hey maybe Batman and Lex are kind of right, that even if Superman sounds like a nice idea in theory, there's just so much potential destruction that could be caused by his existence that honestly yeah, his existence is something that is dangerous.
So ideally, the audience should be on Batman's side when the ultimate battle occurs, at least ideologically. While we know Superman isn't evil, we also know just how much destruction he can cause, as we've seen it ourselves in the previous movie. We don't want Batman or Lex to succeed in killing Superman, because we know more about his history than either of those characters do, and we know Batman is better than this, but we still understand Batman's pain.
In this moment, Batman sees nothing but the monster, the alien. So when Batman is about to accomplish his mission and Superman cries out for Martha, Batman can only assume that Superman is mocking the fact that Bruce was unable to save his mother as a child. This enrages him further, causing him to lash at Superman, demanding answers for why he's mocking Bruce's mother. When Lois steps in and explains that Martha is actually Superman's mother, and that he's crying out in a desperate attempt to save his mother, Batman's entire worldview has completely been shattered.
Watch Ben Affleck's face in that moment. It's like he has just been hit in the face by a pro boxer. All Batman ever saw was the monster, the alien. A violent threat against the world. He never saw this guy as a man, and especially not a man who loves his mother. Bruce saw himself in Superman for the first time in that moment, and not only that, but he saw that he was about to become the very monster he set out to destroy when he became Batman. Batman exists because a little boy lost his parents, and Batman is about to become the cause of another little boy losing his mother.
It has NOTHING to do with Bruce realizing their mothers have the same name. That has absolutely nothing to do with this scene, and it's why so many people get it wrong. It has to do with a man building up this entire worldview and having it completely shattered, about becoming the monster he meant to destroy. It is crucial in changing Batman from the murderous rampaging beast that was created after the losses he experienced, and bringing him back to the hero that people could look up to. The type of Batman you need in order to form a Justice League, for example.
Another point is Lex. A lot of people are annoyed that this isn't the Lex we all know from the comics. Well... they're right. That's not who Jessie Eisenberg is playing. He's effectively playing the son of that Lex. Think of him as Lex Jr. I personally think his performance is quite strong, and from the perspective of a young man inheriting his father's business, it's a portrayal that makes a lot of sense.
I think when you consider all of these things, and also think about just how bloody gorgeous this movie is, and the music, I think this movie ends up being very special. It's up there among the best superhero movies for me. Not as good as the Nolan movies, or the top 3 or so of the MCU, but I still rate it quite highly among the superhero movies I've seen.
"Ultimate" version it's a bit long, but you have to create this universe somehow if you've slept in the last 10 years. ;)
I read all the bad reviews before watching it, and I was sure that I'm gonna hate it, but I watched it anyway and WOW...
It was an amazing experience, LOVED IT
I love almost everything in this movie, even Ben Affleck. If it wasn’t some plot holes and Lois lane stranger decisions around around water, it would be the best super-heroe movies ever
considering how much was spent on this movie.. it may be one of the worst movies ive ever seen. lazy editing, poor story telling, boring, after the first hour of basically nothingness.. you wonder why they even bothered to show up.
I know my ratings sometimes are not equal cause this movie is really good and I would watch again. However, I kept finding myself thinking this could be better. The dream fight sequences were just not super hero-like more supernatural than comic book fantasy. Then Luthor is not manic, he is more poised, devious, this guy sucks... Everything else was cool.
haven't seen the theatrical cut and i still can't believe this was three hours long, but it's a very well done movie and i don't know that any of the scenes could've been omitted—maybe bruce wayne's montage of working out.
Well the film is garbage for many reasons but the DCU as a whole just has crap villains
Bad bad bad bad bad
MARTHAAAAA!!! Ben affleck good but plot is all over the place.
"Tell me, do you bleed? You will".
"Well, if it bleeds, we can kill it".
Superman has become the savior of Metropolis - but also a threat to many who fear his god-like abilities could lead to disaster. Gotham City's own Batman is among them, and he goes to confront the Man of Steel - but as these two titans clash, a new evil arises - one that poses a far greater threat to mankind.
The wait is finally over everyone, but was it worth waiting three years for? kind of. But how amazing is it that two of the most iconic superheros of all time are finally facing off with each other in one single movie. Unfortunately, not everyone was excited for it after the very mixed 'Man of Steel', as fans either loved it, liked it or hated the movie. Everyone was Curious, but also worried about Zack Snyder directing this movie, since he normally choices style over substance in his movies. Everything got worse when it comes to news, as the movie kept getting delayed, some casting choices that people got really angry over and the fact that movie was too crowed with it's characters. But hey, maybe Snyder has learnt from his mistakes from Man of Steel and might actually give us the faithful Frank Miller adaptation we've been waiting for.
After seeing the movie myself and letting it sink in for a while, I don't think this movie was terrible or good, but it could have been much better then the one we got. Batman v Superman has many problems with the plot, pacing and characters, but there's also some good things in it as well that I will get to later on in the review.
I think Zack Snyder took a bold move by taking the biggest criticism of "Man of Steel" was that Superman lets way too many people die (or just wasn't heroic enough), into the main story line of Dawn of Justice. I think it's a great way of replying back to the biggest problems fans or moviegoers had with Man of Steel, as it shows that you are aware and care of what people say. In this movie, Snyder sure dose make it as close as the comic when it comes to visuals and making it seem like the comic is leaping out of the comic book page on to the big screen, but sadly, Zack Snyder did what I feared he would do and that's doing the style over substance, with pretentious symbolism and very messy directing. Just when I thought he would fix the problems from Man of Steel, but instead make bigger problems in this movie. Now I don't want to give off the impression that I'm disliking Zack Snyder, because I don't want to, as I think he is a brilliant visual director with many ideas that doesn't always work out. I'm not a hater Snyder, but I had to be honest with you.
Ben Affleck as Batman was probably the biggest "WTF" casting ever and even I was a bit turned off by it when it was first announced, since at the time I wanted Josh Brolin to be cast as Batman. But just like Michael Keaton as Batman, Daniel Craig as James Bond and Heath Ledger as The Joker, we were all wrong to judge something without seeing it and that's once again the case here, as Ben Affleck wasn't the worse part of this movie, but rather the best part. Ben Affleck absolutely nailed it as Batman and I'm glad he proved everyone wrong. It's always a pleasure seeing annoying fanboys being proven wrong (like always). I can't wait to see that solo Batman movie starring Ben Affleck.
The fight scenes between Batman & Superman was really short and I wish it was a little longer, but it was enjoyable. Jeremy Irons as Alfred was excellent and perfect casting choice. Henry Cavill did a decent job playing Superman and the music in the film was pretty good. Gal Gadot did fine as Wonder Women, but her acting was a bit wooden and I hope she dose improve in the upcoming Wonder Woman movie that's coming out in 2017.
Now for the problems: Jesse Eisenberg was god awful as Lex Luther. I don't understand how some people think he's performance was good in this movie, because he was really cringe worthy and laughable. People will find away to defend his performance and over analysis the sh*t out of it to the point where it's really reaching for it. I don't put all the blame on Eisenberg, since it's mostly the directing and the writing that's the blame. It's awful to see a good actor like Jesse Eisenberg sadly being miss cast in a role that should have went to someone else.
Doomsday is in this movie and this isn't a spoiler as it's already been spoiled in the trailers and advertisements. Doomsday is one of the best villains in DC comics, because it's best known for being the one that killed Superman, but in this movie he's nothing but a big CGI monster that was shoehorned in the last few minutes. Also Doomsday looks like that troll monster from Fellowship of the Ring mixed with a Ninja Turtle. It's that bad.
The film itself is joyless and kind of dull at times, because every superhero movie (Mostly DC films) always try to be that dark and gritty movie that it's never going to be. This is 2 hours & 22 minutes of DC trying to catch up with Marvel, now I'm not comparing this to Marvel movies like some critics are, but it's very noticeable that this movie is leeching off the Marvel formal of setting up future movies.
Overall Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a very messy movie that really dose lose focus on what it's doing. This is called "Batman v Superman", how is this movie not the most awesome thing in the world? it's kind of disappointing just thinking about it. If you like this movie and disagree with me on the problems I had with this movie, then that's fine and I'm glad you enjoyed the movie better than I did.
The ultimate edition is definitely an upgrade from the theatrical cut... character development, more depth to the characters (specially Superman) doesn’t feels rush etc... I won’t be seeing the theatrical cut again...
This could have been such a good movie.
Well, I finally got around to seeing it... again... for the third time.
However, this time I saw it with my dad, who isn't the biggest superhero fan in the world. Much to my surprise and enjoyment, he actually really liked it. Considering he's never been a big fan of any Marvel or DC properties, he said this was his favorite portrayal of both Superman and Batman, beating out all previous performances. He even liked Jessie Eisenberg, which is what I was worried about. Yes, I only showed him the Ultimate Edition. There's no sense in showing him the butchered mess that was the theatrical cut. Even he wondered what they could've possibly cut and couldn't imagine 30 whole minutes being chopped out. It was fun getting to see it again, and I understood even more things this time around. Now that I knew what was going, I could actually sit back and enjoy the movie for what it is. Still remains one of my favorite superhero movies to date.
The theatrical release was turgid, undercooked, bleak nonsense. 4/10
The Ultimate edition is much more enjoyable and rounded. The story makes sense and the flow of the film is much better. It's epic now. 7/10
Why not a higher rating? Casting. I cannot abide Henry Cavill as Clark Kent. I can barely tolerate Amy Adams as Lois Lane. And Jesse as Luthor... Just no.
6/10 as a combined rating across all - but watch the Ultimate version only. Everything else is a waste of your time.
You want a epic movie... But it is so so...
"Batman v Superman is a great film and a spectacle that marks a new era for superheroes."
On rewatch(es) of this giant (I’m definitely talking about the Ultimate Edition) I realised how unwise it had been for the part of the Studio to misjudge its potential. Today we viewers are more open to Netflix and binge watch of giant tv shows in a day. So we would have really appreciated this phenomenal screening of the Caped Crusader and the Man of Steel.
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I REALLY don't get why most people didn't like it. In my opinion it really worked quite neatly