I always thought that this was such a cool sci-fi concept, and it struck me as being quite original. I wouldn't be at all surprised if something similar already existed (Star Trek: TNG's 'Remember Me' has some vague relation), but I have a strong memory of being pretty fascinated by this when it first aired. It's still good fun to watch now, and seeing Christopher Heyerdahl in the first of what will be many appearances in this and other sci-fi franchises is always a good thing. He brings a calming but emotional quality to his work, and I was always jealous of his hair.
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@lefthandedguitarist That hair is a thing of beauty.
3 things needed to be achieved in this episode to ensure the success of the season finale and the build up to an epic season 2.
1) Ellie is the strong element on the equation, she is truly special and not a clever little girl. She is a natural leader and powerful women (super clear during the talk in the cell and when she grabs that cleaver, cleverly );
2)that Bella Ramsey can be adult, raw, fearless and agressive . Her face covered in blood, the knife cuts and the fire behind makes it very visual
3) and finally that the the relationship with Joel is of love and dependence. They would do anything to save the other. When they meet at the end we can see it in their eyes.Thats why this simple episode needed an amazing performance and we got it. Truly incredible and remarkable with so many small references to the game and one HUGE one: Troy Baker :)
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@carlosluislopes
"cleaver little girl"
I don't know if that typo was intentional, but she is indeed a clever cleaver girl.
Character A is incapacitated. Character B revives Character A just in time to save Character B from imprisonment. Yawn. Such amateur writing no wonder every episode gets reddit gold. This weeks mega villain eats meat. So he must die.
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@htpcmac except character A never saved character B from imprisonment. the villain must die cause he's a pedophile who beats children did you even watch the episode
Very hard to watch as it’s in Japanese with English subtitles. Would’ve been great if it was all in English. It’s 2024, who’s got time to read. We all have busy lives and doing 5 things at once. This show prevents you from doing that.
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@whos_ur_buddha you're the type of person whose world ends 5km away from home. I'm sure if you come across aliens you'd expect them to speak English to you too. Free your mind Neo, the world is full of colourful cultures and language diversity.
Very hard to watch as it’s in Japanese with English subtitles. Would’ve been great if it was all in English. It’s 2024, who’s got time to read. We all have busy lives and doing 5 things at once. This show prevents you from doing that.
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Really?! Try Barbie movie. You gonna love it. Lol
Very hard to watch as it’s in Japanese with English subtitles. Would’ve been great if it was all in English. It’s 2024, who’s got time to read. We all have busy lives and doing 5 things at once. This show prevents you from doing that.
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Some mindfulness practices might be helpful for you. It's not the show's fault you're too busy. Aside from that, making it completely English would detract from the quality of the show. In fact, I wish the Portuguese was actually Portuguese but I get it's mostly an American show for American audiences.
I only remember the first few seasons from years ago when it aired on TV so I decided to do a rewatch/catch up beng watch.. and man do I regret it.
The last 2 seasons, it's like the writers gave up on the story, Sabrina barely uses her magic & don't even get me started on Harvey.. I wish I didn't do it, because now one of my favorite childhood shows was officially ruined.
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Very much agreed, I had the exact same experience. The first three seasons are great and the the fourth and fitfh are tolerable. But the final two, are just impossible. The removal of Hilda and Zelda took a lot out of the show, specially compared to the bland characters they were replaced by. I won't be able to finish season seven. Every time I put on an episode, I zone out now.
This episode was confusing af. And not in an enjoyable way.
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@the_argentinian Art and subjectivity are so weird. This to me felt like the best and least confusing episode of the show (I'm only up to here). That's not to say I know what is going on, exactly, but I feel more comfortable with the characters' motivations within the show's framework than I have at the end of any other episode.
quit filming in 4k can't see anything but shadows and darkness.ahhhh
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@lilaa2020 Darkness has nothing to do with 4k. Check your monitor's brightness and contrast settings, maybe?
[4.4/10] I really didn’t care for this one. All of the Roses were so inconsiderate and rude to one another, in a way that made them feel like they were reverting to their early season form. It really didn’t work for me.
Let’s start with the main offender. I actually like the idea of an emotional conflict where David is hurt that Alexis talks about how much she can’t wait to get out of Schitt’s Creek and Alexis is hurt that David isn’t more upset about her leaving, until the two admit they’ll miss one another.
The problem is just that they’re such frickin’ assholes to one another over it. David treating Alexis’s trip like it’s just a vacation, to where he’d have his wedding without her on short notice, feels downright cruel. His unwillingness to apologize for it is borderline mental. Alexis likewise lashes out rather than just expressing her hurt, and her trying to turn the fact that she accidentally booked her flight for the wrong month into a “wedding gift” to David so he can have his dream venue is terrible.
Neither of the Rose siblings deserves forgiveness or sympathy here. They’re just shitty to one another, and it makes both of them pretty unlikable. The one saving grace is Stevie’s reaction to it all, which is pretty funny, and the hints that she too is reconsidering her future.
Likewise, the Moira/Johnny story is broad at best and harsh at worst. Once again, there’s meat to the notion of Moira having a “near-death” experience that convinces her to retire from acting, only to immediately jettison her new perspective on life when she learns that her movie’s been picked up by a streaming service. But the way she entirely neglects Johnny and leaves him to get picked up by a cop for skinny dipping because she’s so involved in her own conversation with her agent seems pretty horrible. Moira is the character who’s arguably grown the least on the show, but even this feels like a bridge too far.
Overall, this is another disappointing season premiere for the show, which used to be something of a tradition, but one Schitt’s Creek had seemingly broken itself of. Sadly, that’s not the case. This may be the worst one yet.
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@guenguer Your unironic use of the term "snowflaking" instantly invalidates your opinions.
Enver Gjokaj (Lukka) looked so familiar, but I couldn't place him. Turns out he also played Victor, one of the main Dolls in Dollhouse, which I watched so long ago that my memories of it are hazy at best. (It's probably time for a rewatch.)
I didn't notice until this episode that Andre is Theo Huxtable—both played by Malcolm-Jamal Warner. Would never have figured it out on my own; I just happened to glance at the guest-star credits as they zipped by this time.
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Andre is Theo Huxtable—both played by Malcolm-Jamal Warner.
The writers threw in a small joke about this in the first episode Warner was in. Jeff tells him he's wearing a nice sweater, and Andre says, "It was my dad's." It's a very Bill Cosby-esque sweater.
Character A is incapacitated. Character B revives Character A just in time to save Character B from imprisonment. Yawn. Such amateur writing no wonder every episode gets reddit gold. This weeks mega villain eats meat. So he must die.
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@htpcmac "Villain eats meat, so he must die" is an interesting way to characterize it when the villain is a pedophile leading a cannibal cult.
Filler episode that added nothing to the story long-term. Meh.
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Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, it just confuses me that with a long journey people would think they wouldn’t run into obstacles especially in a post apocalyptic dystopian world. Makes me wonder why Peter Jackson spent 11+ hours on 3 films to tell the lord of the rings(we’re not going to talk about the hobbit)when he could have much more easily spent 30-45 minutes having Frodo walk to mount doom throw in a ring and go home.
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VIP10Very slow, very boring, very pretentious, very crap, I would rather sever my leg than sit through another episode.
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Wow, tough crowd. Don’t watch it then?
That was just painful, in SO many ways...
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@cmonster Care to elaborate? What was painful? That it's ending? The acting? What?
Show is Getting worse.
Inserting propaganda.
The moment the uttered the words “right wing”, I lost respect for the show.
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All domestic terrorism in our recent history has been of the right wing variety. Makes sense.
New season, Same shit.
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@redouaaane Second that.
"Hey some funding", "damn we fucked up", "oh some new funding", "we got screwed", "saved b4 season finale, woho"
Only thing new in the seasons are some good "programmer dad jokes". The rest is just a story on repeat. boring.
How is it that a small base in the middle of the forest has methods to check if they are letting a human or an android into their base? Yet the big base in Boston that even has an EMP available just brings anyone in?
This lapse in thinking through their story points basically makes the climax of the movie, and everything thereafter, null and void.
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@gamallama plus NOBODY is standing next to the EMP in Boston with a walkie-talkie in their hands, ready to press the button? Only the woman who has just given birth thought about the EMP in the whole city, right?
Just to remind myself, if I ever rewatch this, to skip episodes 3 and 7.
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@baroines I hope they didn't damage you too severely.
Great episode, but (minor nitpick) they shouldn’t have had Bella go from crying to being perfectly fine and the two of them walking away (and towards a lake? They gonna swim in it or something?) at the end. Bella should’ve cried a tad longer so it didn’t seem to abrupt. She also didn’t cry “Joel” like in the game which stuck out to me.
Again, minor nitpicks but great overall.
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@malus92 fine? you call that despair and shock and utter dissociation on the look on her face fine?
Filler episode that added nothing to the story long-term. Meh.
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This episode shows how the two have grown closer, showed Ellie dealing with a problem on her own (two including Joel), and is world building showing some of the groups of people that have come together after the “apocalypse.”
Mindbogglingly boring.
I am a huge scifi fan, I love almost everything in the scifi and fantasy genre. So of course I was looking forward to this, two parallel worlds where the protagonists meet and interact, how cool is that premise?
Turns out it wasn't, isn't nor will be cool or even interesting. It was dull, forseeable and an utter piece of crap.
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@bardolph77 I couldn't disagree more, and I don't really understand people like you who love throwing shade. When decent people dislike a show, then as soon as they realize this, they turn it off and walk away as their time is valuable. They understand that others might enjoy it and don't get a thrill trying to shit on them. Also, "Loving almost everything in the scifi and fantasy genre" doesn't make you an expert. You've lumped together an astoundingly broad and massive set of MANY interconnected genres and sub-genres spanning back over 100 years. Nobody loves it all because there is something for everyone. Even you. I'm an old geezer who's been reading and watching all the Sci-Fi i and Fantasy can get my hands on for 40 years, and can say that the more one learns, the more they realize they haven't learned anything at all. It's a very big world.
To everyone else, I just watched Counterpart and very much enjoyed it. It is a "thinker fiction" series, in the spirit of The Twilight Zone from the 60's and to my tastes feels a bit like taking single episode of TTZ and expanding into a full modern series. Human drama unfolds through an interesting "what if" story concept. I find it fun and fascinating, and will definitely be watching each week.
:: Bottom line ::
If you want flashy action Sci-Fi, you will be disappointed. Worry not, there's an endless supply of that kind of fiction elsewhere.
If you enjoyed "11.22.63" or "The Man in High Castle", you will probably like this show quite a lot.
it was really magnificent, cannot understand how can be IMDB score is low, there are a lot of garbage movies are higher than the movie :(
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@anjektus_film You're grading the movie based on something it isn't. A movie is never a book, nor is a book ever a movie. As a movie, this is a good flick. As a book, it is a good book. Both are different mediums and therefore different versions of the same story. You can like or dislike both. Nothing wrong with that.
Good cast. Boring movie for me. I just didnt care about the sales people. Every time I watched Jack Lemmon's character I just thought of old Gill from The Simpsons. Pacino seemed cast for his voice and the monologues.
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Literally all they do is snap at each other with the same attitude and same insults lmao
First 2 seasons are definitely recommended. It got "woke" in season 3 and isn't worth the time anymore. Unfollowed.
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@martlet I just don't see it. None of it seemed forced to me. They certainly touched on a bunch of subjects but the entire concept of things being "woke" is flawed in and of itself. In the context of entertainment media it's a label pretty much exclusively used to deride anything that even remotely covers a social or political statement people on the right disagree with.
I personally don't think it's a bad thing that media nods towards current social affairs and it's not a new thing by any stretch. Things like racism and sexism have been topics plenty of times in shows and movies in the past, but it's only now that certain people go into apoplectic meltdown when it comes up.
First 2 seasons are definitely recommended. It got "woke" in season 3 and isn't worth the time anymore. Unfollowed.
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@martlet It's a great show. The idea that it's "woke" is just the standard alt-right nonsense that gets regurgitated every time any show covers any progressive subject.
Bored by this show by now
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@lynchreborn But you gave it a 7?
how could a film that bases an entire storyline around a Ratatouille joke not be absolutely fantastic?
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@samtasia I think you mean Racacoonie?
I really really REALLY wish the show doesn't steer into The Walking Dead direction. All I want is creatures and intense edge of the seat scares.
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@typongtv The game wasn't mainly about the creatures, so I doubt the show will be. Maybe watch Silent Hill instead?
Started off fine but then the exposition became really annoying and the long runtime started to become an issue. I have no idea why they tried to keep Ellie’s secret hidden, just made me irritated.
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@eriohm They revealed it the same way the game did, although in the show the moment passed fairly quickly as they were rushed to get out of there. In the game they discussed it for a minute, asking why Marlene set them up. It was a pretty big moment in the game so I can see why they waited to show it there. I'm guessing the beginning of the next episode will focus a little more on them confronting Ellie about it.
Personally, I didn't feel the length at all. It felt like it was over sooner than most 45 minute episodes feel. I was just drawn into it so much I guess.
