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I was reading through the comments and was surprised that some people think Otis is trash this season... Literally the party scene was the only one where he did wrong so far. He's been dealing with his mom and Jakob's relationship (+ Jakob's personality), Ola, Maeve, his own and other people's sex-related problems for a long time - who wouldn't explode at some point?
Just like how Jackson had enough of one of his mother's dictatorship and almost broke down (well, technically with the self-harm he already did) and how Eric stood up face-to-face to Adam and told him his honest thoughts (yaaas, so proud! I was actually afraid that he would change his mind and back down, but I'm so glad that there's a character in existence who doesn't choose the "bad guy" bully at the end!). These characters had enough too, yet I don't see anyone bashing them. And Otis has/had a lot more on his plate than these two.

I'm conflicted about Maeve now. Last time I wrote that they're basically soulmates with Otis, and I really thought that... but then Isaac came, and now I'm kinda rooting for him? But I'm also rooting for Maeve just concentrating on herself? And also rooting for Otis to apologize and speak to Maeve about his feelings while he's sober?
Since Maeve and Otis are 2 of the 3 main characters, and almost the whole SE1 was about them starting to like each other, I guess they'll end up together, but it wouldn't be a first of this show to give things a twist and pair Maeve up with Isaac.

Jackson and Viv are getting closer, yaay! I mean, that was a strong gut feeling right from their first meeting, but it's still nice to see Viv starting to care more about Jackson (and vice versa), little by little.

I came to watch this movie with high expectations - hearing about all its nominations and seeing all the positive feedback. It disappointed me. Very big time.

Most of the scenes and dialogues in the first hour didn't make any sense. The two guys developed feelings from nothing, they barely even encountered or hung out with each other - let alone did something memorable that would lead to catching feelings for one another.

Like how other people commented here, the supporting characters had absolutely no role in the storyline, hell, maybe even the parents had unnecessary roles. But the most disappointing fact is that even the two main characters had no depth, no logical thoughts and actions. I get that Elio is supposed to be a 17-year-old, but even a teenager hasn't got that much random stuff going on in their head and in their actions as he does.

The sad thing is that the actors had a great chemistry but this storyline and these dialogues just stomped all that built-up passion into the ground. Like WTF was that scene with penetrating that poor peach?! Or that one where the movie got its title from? Why would you ask your loved (in this case, "loved") one to call you by their own name instead of yours? That's just f*cked up...

There were only 3 things I liked about this movie: the BGMs, the scenery and the penultimate scene when the father gives all that smart advice to Elio. This story had so much potential, but I guess people who read the book were right - this movie totally ruined it. I should've just read the book.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at Jessica&Mark's situation anymore. Like all of these outsider commenters, I, too, can obviously tell that Jessica is still hung up on Barnett and has been wanting him for herself ever since the pods. So why can't Mark see it? I mean, it's one thing if you're "blinded by love" (though I still don't know how can he love her with her sh*tty attitude), but you should be able to see if your partner is having more fun with another guy or when she's undermining and makes a fit out of literally everything you say.
I can somewhat see the realization on Barnett's face whenever he talks to Jessica face-to-face - whatever he's feeling, he's keeping his distance from her at least.

Sad that this reality show (and basically all others too) focuses much more on the obviously problematic people rather than the chill, genuine ones like Kenny and Kelly. I think only they will make it in the long run, maybe Lauren and Cameron too. But it's visible that Kenny and Kelly don't feel the need to cling onto each other all the time, and they're not making drama out of anything. They're chill and cute.

Okay, I couldn't hold these in any longer:
- Why didn't they put a knife in the "father"? I know, morality and all that jazz, but if they set their mind to kill him, wouldn't that be the most logical thought to try to actually kill him with a 100% sure method, not gamble with those crushed up pills?
- Why the hell didn't Margot just make a run for it when she opened the balcony's door? She stopped like 3 times just to make sure his "father" didn't hear anything instead of actually trying to escape.
- Lol, how TF could "father" dig a little hole into Seth's forehead just by pressing his finger into it?
- And what is Jules so depressed about since like episode 2? She's overreacting to everything, doesn't sleep, always has a dead look on her face... Oh, and...
- When Jules and Margot went through the House for the second time, why did it only contain Margot's fears in all of the rooms? I believe it would be time to know what Jules is so terrified of that she's on edge all the time.

As of the others who went in the House with them:
1) That bearded survivor guy knew too much about the system of the last "room". I'm sure he wasn't a first-timer, but then the question of his wife-or-not rises: who is she really? A girl who escaped from him and started a new life with a new husband in the House? But she didn't seem like she actually knew the bearded guy, so...
2) Remember those realistic face-statues of the participants in the first room? Only the JT replica's head wasn't torn apart. So how come he was killed by his House-self? Wouldn't that head signify that only he stayed sane or something like that? It's a shame they didn't think this through.

Random thoughts while watching the movie:
- That teacher didn't see at all that everyone was staring at Lynn's hand (or at least at her direction) who was sitting in the first row? Not even when only like 15 kids were left there writing the test? Lol.
- I get that they were mad at Bank who crashed their car's mirror (accidentally, I believe), but isn't beating up and throwing a teenager to a dump a bit... I dunno, exaggerated? [Lol, I wasn't suspecting foul play without a reason.]
- That barcode part is genius, but I don't really get how they want to realize that plan. It's not like they have the time or equipment to create pencils with the answers while they're taking the test. [Ah, okay, nevermind.]
- Bank's rage scene when he found out that Pat sent those jerks to beat him up was 12/10.
- That phone-in-the-tank-of-the-toilet plan could go wrong in so many ways. Like what if you can't take off the lid in the toilets of Sydney (or in that particular building)? Or what if someone uses that exact toilet you chose to hide the phone in in the break? All that planning can be ruined in a split second. [I really should be a fortune-teller...]
- Standing up right after the teachers says the word "break" is a liittle not so subtle.
- Wooah, that effect when Lynn slided across the exam room to the piano!
- Okay, now, I'm 103% sure that Lynn choking on her pencil was noticeable for... basically everyone in that quiet and still room. Yet somehow everyone acted so surprised to see her vomiting.
- Why are they chasing Lynn? Because she just left after throwing up? I don't think they have evidence on her since she hid the phone. And chasing her all the way down the streets and the metro station...

I was stunned by the acting. Good Thai actors are so hard to find, especially young ones, so I was really glad about the cast.
The planning of cheating on the high school tests and on the STIC one was mind-blowing. So creative methods!
I was a little meh about Bank turning into a mad businessman at the end - that's absoluety not his character (he almost threw up from actual anxiety or panic in the toilet!). It would've been somewhat believeable if they hadn't have gotten caught in Sydney - giving him adrenaline, money, good scores and all that jazz, but this way... I don't know. Though I guess that had to be done in order for Lynn to have her happy(ish) ending.
I would've watched this movie for a bit longer, just to know where the 4 main characters end up. Or to learn what kind if punishment did Lynn face at the end. I feel like this ending was left too open for the viewers.

Overall, I really enjoyed this movie. At first it seemed way too long, but now I understand why. The plot had its small holes (like every other one), but I would recommend it for anyone.

Okay, let me just stop right at the beginning before I continue with this episode... A panic attack? I had my fair share of those and in none of those situations was I even nearly close to collapsing and/or losing my consciousness. That looked a hellofa lot more like a heart attack. Panic attacks don't make you lose your balance or drop the milk that's in your hand. They might make you feel weak, you might need to sit down, your vision might go spotty or even pitch black for a really short period of time. And you might feel like you're about to collapse or even die, but you don't. That's a big difference between panic attacks and heart attacks.

Well, I just wrote like half an hour ago about Evan and Casey's relationship, aaand yup, here we are. I see Casey's side of the pizza place incident too, but let's be honest: Evan is in the right here. Pretty cliché TV show scenario, and it's usually the other way around (the guy having the elite friends and ending up offending the girl), it was still an okay scene here. Evan might have overreacted a bit since he felt somewhat threatened by Nate or that group as a whole basically taking Casey away from him, and he definitely felt a sour feeling of not belonging between the elite kids. Why I side with him though is that Casey does seem to share more about her private life to the Clayton kids than to Evan lately. And while Evan tries to get closer to Casey (in an emotional sense), she seems to have an overall avoidant behaviour towards him, or at least compared to the Clayton kids again.

Okay, I just can't hold it in anymore... This Bossman gives me so serious pervert vibes. His long(ing) stares, staying up late to wait for the new girl alone, the beer bottle incident, deciding that he wanted the new girl immediately when he saw her boobs (and slimness), asking for girl rankings from the boys and boy rankings from the girls (like how old is he? 13?), waiting in front of the playroom when the new girl and other new guy were there, doing those push-ups, talking about taking the new girl's "Rainbow Bridge virginity", applying lip balm on the new girl and kissing her afterwards... Dude, that person is disgustingly pervert. But I don't really have any feelings towards the new girl (other than that she seems stupid), so I guess this pair would be okay by me. Just leave the show, please, lol.
(Sometimes Kai gives off this vibe too, but not to the point where I dislike him.)

Oh, maybe Yume isn't as stupid as I thought? I mean, she visibly wasn't pleased when Boss did all that shit, but she always continued with a smile as if nothing had happened. So I was wondering the same as the hosts: does she really like Boss but isn't happy with how fast he wanna move forward or is she just a slut? xd I hope it's the first one, and I also hope that even if Shion doesn't end up with Vivi, he won't end up with Yume either.

Oof, I kinda agree with the girls here and kinda not. I'm a shy person too, so asking people out is definitely not my forte - but then I don't apply to a show where this aspect is pretty important. So I get where for example Ruka's anxieties come from (though imo it doesn't make him feminine if he's shy a bit), but it's still a little disappointing because they're literally in a show dedicated to guys and girls living together and asking each other out for dates.
I wouldn't categorize the other two guys under the "disappointing" label because they just seem to not have a crush on any of the girls. Like they mentioned, Shohei asking Kaori out was a big first step, but he really seems disinterested in her now (romantically). And Kenny... Well, he's a bit of a mystery for me at the moment - he expressed (physical) interest in Haruka, on the other hand I still think he's the cutest and most chill with Kaori.

Ruka climbing up the stairs on all fours is a big mood. xD
He was sooo cuuute! Although I still think it's just an "it didn't work out with Haruka, I see Risako only as a friend... let's see the last option!" kinda excuse. Like no, women (and men) are not just other options if something doesn't turn out well with the one you wanted. I despise the "somebody is better than nobody" mentality, so I truly hope he's genuine with Kaori.

Mkay, I'm not gonna declare that I like Haruka or hate Risako, but that was a reeeeally bitch move of the latter at the end... It was so clear that Risako wanted to humiliate Haruka (or at least make the situation awkward between her and Kenny) that I just wanted to slap her in the face. Not understanding others' feelings - my ass... of course you do, and you used it against a person who trusted you with theirs even though she was uncomfortable with telling.
I applaud Haruka for still trying to talk it out with Risako. Maybe it was because of the cameras, maybe it was genuine, but I, for one, definitely couldn't have faced(? Is it the right tense? idk anymore xd) Risako with a smile and kindly phrased questions after that. So kudos for Haruka, and a medium "fuck you" to Risako.

"I understand that I hurt you." - Sooo... still no apology? And Eric wants this guy more than Rahim? Ughhh... Don't want to be a d*ck, but I really hope that Eric will experience Adam not being able to catch him. The only moment I almost teared up was when I saw Rahim crying. I really like his character, it's a shame that Eric just had to choose Adam anyway. I mean, of course, feelings should come first (most of the time) if you choose a partner, but I just don't get how can he fall for and choose his dumb ex-bully over a sweet, honest and smart guy. This plotline was a huge disappointment.

Viv and Jackson, on the other hand, were adorable! They were so cute hugging and holding hands while walking! Even if just as friends (for now, hihi).

Oh, how much I knew that Isaac would delete Otis' voice message... I get that he wants Maeve for himself, but using dirty tricks to achieve that because he knows he'll lose the fair way... Back to 100% Team Otis.

I didn't really like Erin from the start, it was pretty obvious that she was gonna start using again, especially when she was caught in her lie about her being fired. I really pitied Maeve for having to deal with a "mother" like this - after being neglected and abandoned by her in her childhood, she comes back, makes Maeve believe that she's changed, then ruins her life again by starting the vicious cycle from the beginning. And she dares to say she'll never forgive her own child for reporting her for the sake of saving Elsie from what her other children had gone through. (Oof, this sounded a lot less difficult of a sentence in my head. xD)
Anyway, Maeve is a wonderful and brave human being. I just hope she won't date Isaac for too long in the next season before getting to know the truth about Otis' feelings (because I guess this will happen, too, if they went cliché with the "bad guy" topic regarding Eric).

Not to downgrade Pharm's... feelings(?), but why was he so against Dean starting kissing and touching him (both in a "non-animal" way)? Like they kissed many times before, they held hands, they hugged, they slept together in a bed, so why get mad at Dean for trying to take a bigger step? (Again, it's totally Pharm's right to say no, I just don't understand it since Dean wasn't really violent or anything.)
[Oh, I just read that apparently in the novel it's actually explained that sometimes Korn takes over Dean, and somehow Pharm can recognize these moments, these "traits" as Korn's, that's why he pushed "Dean" (Korn) away. It actually makes a lot more sense like this. I'm sad that the series doesn't explain this at all.]
That part with the grandma clarifies this a little bit, but I'm still not sure if it's just Dean communicating Korn's thoughts or it's actually Korn talking (in the series, because now I know that it's Korn taking over sometimes in the novel, but idk about here).

Umm... Can someone tell me when did Win and Team get this close? Last I checked Win went bold with an obvious flirting, but that was it. And now Team just casually goes to sleep at Win's... at 1 AM. And apparently it's not the first time Team couldn't sleep. Ookaay...
Not that I'm against them, but see, this episode is full of rookie mistakes. Most of the people who watch these BLs don't read the novels they're based on. And instead of making either a remake of the novel or basing the series totally on it, Thais kinda mix these together and leave lots of parts out - making some scenes in the series random or too fast-paced. Thais reeeally need to work on this because the lack of logic in a relationship's development can ruin a story as much as the lack of good actors. :person_shrugging:

Thoughts while watching the movie:
- (Didn't take a look at the actors beforehand) First visible moment of the movie: "KANG HA-NEUL!" Omg, I love this actor so much.
- I almost never even flinch at jumpscares, only really rarely (thanks to Pewdiepie for making me almost immune xD), but that woman got me at the kinda beginning.
- Okay, this hyung either has a multiple personality disorder or he's living a double life, OR perhaps it really is all in dearest Kang Ha-neul's (Jin-seok's) head. That jumpscare woman definitely is, but idk about the hyung. Not wearing/needing his glasses, the limp disappearing, smoking, swearing...
- Either I didn't pay close attention (though I rewinded that part) or the hyung listed the taxi too at their fight even though Jin-seok didn't mention that to him. Hmm... [HA, I KNEW IT!]
- Okay, well, something is still wrong with Jin-seok too because he keeps seeing these weird dreams and hearing noises from that locked room. And I don't think that these have to do anything with Yu-seok (or "Yu-seok"), only if it's his torture room or something. :'D
- Ooooh, mom is in it too! Or, again, it's all in Jin-seok's head.
- Lol, "Mr. Park"? "Mr. Choi"? Are they doing some sick experiment on Jin-seok? Come to think of it, that mover guy even asked Jin-seok if Yu-seok is really his brother (Jin-seok laughing it off with an "I know we don't look alike" comment). HMM... At this point I'm not even sure if the medicine they give Jin-seok is really an anti-anxiety medicine. [Hehe, call me detective. xD] He first followed his hyung when he forgot to take it, so... :thinking:
- I love that last time when Jin-seok stepped out after 12:30 AM, there were quite a few people, but when it's a chase where he would be in need of someone outsider, there's literally no one on the streets. :'D
- OH, SNAP. So I still bet either on the sick experiment or the brainf*ck. His "family" propped the house full of older stuff, they used flip phones, he even had a Discman... but how could he not notice all the modern sh*t when he stepped outside? Only when he went in the police station? And he never looked in a mirror before to not notice his age? Eh, maybe it is his mind playing games with him, not actual people.
- Wow. The plot is becoming too wow.
- Uhm... yeah. No wonder why did he erase that period from his memories.
- I don't get why did Jin-seok lie and protect that scum doctor, but I'm glad that the hyung (well, now dongsaeng, I guess) didn't believe it.

Sooo... I came to watch a thriller and be spooked, but that only worked for about 1 hour of the movie, the other (almost) half just made me sad. The ending was disappointing for me; I was hoping for something more of an experiment or hallucinations (like I tried to guess above), but at least it answered the first half of the movie.
So let's see what we got instead. A car accident, a broke and desperate survivor, a likewise broke and desperate father, an unfortunate accident, an unfortunate following semi-accident, a quarrel leading to a fatal accident... then, 20 years later, a sick interrogation method, and finally a double suicide.

And all I wanted was some spooks.

The first battle was a close one for me because I totally agreed with what the spectators said regarding both teams. YG shouldn't have done that awkward part with the music changing and all that jazz (even the voting people looked so confused), and when they mentioned that they couldn't hear what the AOMG contestants were saying (maybe only as a diss), I started to listen to that aspect. and they were actually right. But for me, YG's "mistake" was more noticeable, so I would've voted for AOMG.

Pffft. You don't want me to get started on this whole Brand New drama. (But I will anyway.)
San E and Verbal Jint are both mature, grown men. They made a decision on who to eliminate, and (if I remember correctly) they even mentioned that their decision took the longest time to make. They obviously made a choice of favoritism since Hanhae made a bigger mistake and he just happened to be the one who advanced under Brand New's wings. I get that after hearing mentors, contestants and fans of the show express their negative opinions about this decision, they regretted their choice. But the show must go on. If they don't give contestants a second chance after a bad performance, they shouldn't give mentors a change of judgement either. It's unfair to all the contestants and mentors.
I 100% agree with and understand Hanhae's, Black Nut's and Team ZiPal's feelings. It was pure nonsense to change Hanhae to Black Nut when 1) Hanhae's been working really hard to make up for his mistake, 2) Black Nut was furious because of his elimination and the producers asking him to come back (and I can totally understand him TBH), 3) Team ZiPal was already done(?) or half-done with lyrics regarding dissing Hanhae so they had to change at least Mino's verse entirely.
This show is getting more and more ridiculous with its stunts.

1) Poor Patrick doesn't deserve this.

2) Ari is, has been, and most probably will continue to be the biggest b*tch of this series. Seriously, I have no idea why does every second guy fall for her in Las Encinas. Prettiness is one thing, that's preference, and I'm not gonna say anything rude towards the actress - but the character is so annoying, selfish and vain among other things, that I am just baffled that even the amazing guys like Nico want her. Both him and Patrick were totally right, they summed up Ari in this season (if not in the whole series): she's just out for men (well, specifically one body part of them), and she's ruining everything good she has with her behaviour and by drinking all the time. At this point, I would watch the series even faster if the next season would start with Ari bleeding out. Yes, I know, too harsh. But damn, she's annoying af.

3) Isa is adorable. Dídac is adorable. Polite. Patient. Understanding. Amazing. I love them separately, and I sure as hell will love them when they end up together. Isa deserves a loving and trusted guy like Dídac. I hope the creators of the show won't screw this up, and we'll finally get to see one healthy couple. Please.

4) Oh, Sara... Other than Mencía's advances on her a few times, she (Mencía) did a wonderful job trying to help and guide Sara. Explaining that she's been through this too. Understanding her. Fighting for her even when she (Sara) herself doesn't see things clearly.

I might belong to a small camp here, but I totally understand and accept Lea's answer. If you look at it from her perspective, just think of how thoughtful of a decision it is to give up on your own feelings because you don't want to be a burden with your baggage to that person. And yes, she has to put herself first because it's her life. Doesn't matter if we're talking about an autistic person, a drug addict, a handicapped one, a depressed one... if someone feels like no matter how much they love that person, they just can't deal with them in some way, that someone has every right to reject the other one. (They have a right either way, but you get what I'm trying to say.)
Even from the "other side", as someone with anxiety and depression, I don't want to be with someone who can't deal with the shit that comes with these mental illnesses. Because, sadly, even though I'm healing, they still shape my mentality and way of thinking in certain ways. So it's only natural for me to not want my partner to bend over backwards for me or feel uncomfortable/scared/annoyed/etc. just because they don't know how to deal with me when I have an anxiety attack, for example.

From Lea's POV, she knows her "faults", weaknesses, pet peeves, etc., and if she needs a boyfriend who, idk, hugs her a lot for example, she won't choose Shaun. Why do some ppl in the comments think Lea should give up her wants and needs in a relationship just to make Shaun, who happens to be autistic, happy? Fuck that. I totally get Shaun. It was a hard and brave decision for him to tell Lea how he feels. But no one is obligated to get into a relationship with him and cut down on their own needs just because Shaun is autistic. Both parties deserve happiness, comfortableness and their needs met in a relationship. If Lea doesn't want to compromise that much just to please Shaun, that's entirely understandable.

The execution could be a lot better (not this cringe, overdone acting), but the main message is super important and well-shown: don't jump into conclusions. You're not a mind-reader. You can never be sure what the other person is thinking unless you ask them about it (and, well, even then you may not get the truth out of them).
And it's not just with romantic relationship stuff like "Is he grossed out that I touched his hand?" or "Why doesn't he say anything while eating lunch?" - it applies to every type of interpersonal relationship. "Why did she cancel the meetup just a few hours before it?" - maybe that person has an anxiety disorder. "Why doesn't my friend want to hug me?" - maybe they don't like skinship but they still care about you. "When will he finally stop people-pleasing?" - maybe it's a coping mechanism from childhood.
So yeah, I really love how these episodes encourage people to talk to their SO and friends to clear misunderstandings and lingering questions. Communication is key in every kind of relationship.

The volleyball guy (Toyoda?) is sooo adorable looking out for Ida, supporting him and cheering him on subtly! :heart_eyes:

The last bit was truly amazing. That's what I want(ed) more of in this drama. People realizing that lesbian/gay/bi/etc. people aren't gonna hit on everyone from the gender they're attracted to. Just like how straight people don't get the hots for everyone from the opposite sex. I, as a straight female, can have a sibling-love towards a younger boy, a friend-love towards a guy my age, a respect-love towards an older man teacher of mine - and everything in between. Or nothing at all! Because I don't feel strong emotions towards every male I encounter.
Therefore, as it was explained in this episode in a simple and easily understandable way, Aoki (however he identifies) can feel a brotherly bond towards the tutor guy - nothing romantic because those feelings of his are only towards one person: Ida.

Oof, I knew Casey was younger than Sam, and we knew that Sam is 18, but still... She just turned 16? So she slept with a (probably?) adult guy when she was just 15? Huuuuge yikes. :grimacing: Drawback of casting actors and actresses being and looking 10 years older than the role they're supposed to play.

Aaand there is my prediction about Casey and Izzy... Ugh. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a girl&girl couple, I just think the storytelling was too off to make them a pair. It was kinda rushed with Evan too, but at least he wasn't a douche like Izzy. And how Izzy said she was afraid of losing someone she loved (aka Casey, as it turned out), like... then she would've believed her, not Nate. Then she wouldn't have acted like a dick yet again. Then she wouldn't have written 'ho' and 'slut' on Casey's shoes. These are NOT things you do out of love. Everything in this (obviously starting) relationship screams toxic. And I said it before, I'll say it again: I'm truly debating on continuing this show if (or more like when) they make the poor choice of putting the girls together in a couple.

I could kinda sense this in the previous episode too, and I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but it seems that maybe there will be more between Casey and Izzie? It's just suspicious that Casey and Evan's relationship is going way too good, like even if there are some bumps here and there, they are able to talk it out and resolve it relatively quickly, within 1-2 episodes max. So I'm thinking (or _over_thinking lol) that maybe Casey will want something more exciting like her daytime drinking with Izzie, who, btw, totally gets her situation (basically having to be a mom for her siblings).
Like I said, I'm really hoping I'm wrong but something does feel fishy about this situation for me. Evan is the sweetest guy I've seen in a TV show since many-many years (or ever), and not in the I'll-do-anything-for-you-my-queen way but in an actually believable, real-life scenario way. He's funny, loving, caring and patient. He wants to solve their occasional problems with Casey, but he's not being pushy or a dick about anything. He knows boundaries - and that's probably the best way to describe him. Their chemistry with Casey is super good. So if they end up breaking up, I'll seriously debate to continue with this show because that would be the dumbest decision ever to separate them.

OMG, I'm back in the game after a month, and a Thai BL series' first episode's first minute just threw shade at the BL scripts that contain sexual harassment and pass it on as romantic gestures??? HELL YES!! :muscle::heart_eyes:
Damn, I want to learn how to fiddle with a pen like that :joy:
I really hope that 'Bad Engineer' (the title of Gene's first BL) is also a shade thrown at all the cliché Thai BLs where the protagonists are studying as engineers :joy:

So I have a question for my fellow BL lovers. I've been googling Kaownah and Turbo because I didn't know who they were when those interviewers and fans spotted them. I thought it was a crossover of some kind when a couple of an existing BL series pops up in a new show as guest stars. But I couldn't find any existing shows where they were together. Like I saw that they're here as guests and on Oxygen as guests (I still remember that, lol), but not as characters, they are called by their real name. But even after looking them up, I couldn't find any source of their "origins", like did they get famous for being together on IG/Twitter or somewhere? They've been cast on a show together, but that will come out in the future, so how are they this well-known already?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can answer! :hugging:

Did I just witness another shade when they hinted at some BL writers being a pain in the ass to work with when adapting the novel into a series? :joy: Istg, I don't mind the usual cringe "funny" scenes, all this tea is making up for it! :laughing::tea:
I wonder why they brought up that casting an IRL gay person may cause problems. (Was it because of the drama between Mew and Art? :thinking:) I mean, sure, there's always a chance that a gay guy will fall in love with their also guy co-actor... but it's basically the same risk as in hetero series with a female and a male lead, so... :person_shrugging:

Ooh, I would've caught that girl too, ngl! :laughing:

Eh, really disliking the moving-in part, I hate that in any kind of story. If there's actually a legit reason why it would make sense, then I'm okay with it, but 99% of these kinda plots couldn't be applied to real life because let's face it - no one wants to move in with a basically random stranger (unless it's only about sharing the costs, but that would be a whole another story).

I don't want to jinx it too early, so I'm not gonna write the sentence what I want yet, just gonna emphasize how proud I am of my boy, Bass. He poured his heart out to Oh in front of the whole class as a total introvert! Damn, I'd love a SO in my life like him... :sob:

Okay, I get the part where Teh doesn't know how can he like a guy if all his life he was attracted to girls. That would be a bit frightening for me too. But the "If I date him, how can I tell my friends?" part... Bish just proved again that all that matters is him and how others look at him. Bass literally told that he liked Oh in front of the whole class - girls, boys, their friends and even their teacher! How did their friends react? They didn't care (in the phrase's positive meaning)! So why would it have been different if it was Teh instead of Bass?
Anyway, I'm not complaining, I'm still waiting for the outcome to see if I can write that sentence down. :joy:

I was actually cheering with Tarn, the guys, Bass and Oh, wth! I may be a little too invested in this story... :joy:

I... don't understand... When Oh ran back to Bass I was happy at first, then I was like "wait, what if it's his goodbye to Bass?", and now I'm confused because it didn't seem like that, but Oh apologized to Bass for not being ready (or not wanting) to see Teh sad. So... what now?

Yup, thought so that this will get a shit ending. Teh doesn't deserve Tarn as his friend and definitely not Oh as his boyfriend. But if Oh is that stupid to go to him instead of Bass even though Bass never once treated him wrong but Teh yes... That just means that Oh is an idiot. :person_shrugging:
I would've given this much more points if it would've finished with Bass and Oh together, but hey - Thai BLs often have a habit of romanticizing psychos, stalkers and abusive people, so I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise that Oh ended up with the narcissistic and possessive main character instead of the genuine and caring supporting character...

The cameraman having a 3-min seizure during the fighting part did no good for the outcome. Seriously, why shake the camera / add a shaking effect for a long amount of time? It only makes people dizzy. That blood pouring out of Luis's head with serious lag issues was a joke too.

The plot... Well, yeah, it was clear last episode that it wasn't Luis because this show has just only started, so of course they won't reveal the sicko (changed the "mastermind" to this more accurate noun, lol) right away. I'm suspecting the secretary now since she observed Sofi pretty well + she loves the gossip. Though idk what her motive would be with all this... My other suspect is Alex, not (only) because she helped Gerry get out, but she, too, seems to read people well. Plus, it was even said by Sofi that Alex doesn't like anyone, soo...

I guess I'll find out the answers to some of my questions in the next episodes (like if Sofi and that man are in a relationship or do they want to keep their meetings a secret because of another reason), but I was dumbfounded when they kept repeating that Pablo was cheating on Isa, so either I missed something in the video or somewhere else, or it's just a plot hole. I believe Pablo's secret was only his big D, but apparently he cheated too. :person_shrugging: [Edit: Okay, I think I know where I should've watched more carefully. I thought that that was Isa with Pablo in the closet, but nope.]
Other annoying thing is that they keep sending the messages (and now even Pablo's asshole "parents" wrote the note) in English, but they speak Spanish all the time. I know they probably want to make the international audience's understanding better, but it just makes the series more unrealistic. (And now that I think about it, Isa is suspect-material too, since she spoke in English to the headmaster and her mom + she even said that she would've told her secret with time to her friends... If she is the sicko, then the text messages' language is excused, but not the note for Pablo.)

This idea has so much potential, but these mistakes ruin the show for me.

Some thoughts for this episode and the past two:
- Lord, that third-wheeling in the forest... Too much second-hand embarrassment, especially because it's obvious that Addy wants Coach, and it's getting more and more visible that Coach wants Addy too. The only question here is that how can such a smart girl like Addy not see that if she was to get together with Coach, she would be Coach's third partner in just a few weeks? Girl, you want a double-cheater? Or by seeing the last scene this episode... do you want a friends-with-benefits situation with your toxic best friend?
- That scene when Addy entered the house and Coach just let her wander around without having any interest about why Addy is in her house at the first place... Why? How was that even a remotely realistic scenario in the director's mind?
- I guess "fetus" is supposed to be this unique bully-name that makes this show even more distinctive, but it just doesn't do it for me. She's just a few years younger than Beth and the others, and even though the actress does have a baby face, it still doesn't have much effect for me.
- The random di-- I mean vagina-swingings are just cringe. The "stomping it out" last episode, the "ice off" this time... Ugh.

Ookayy... So Sarawat stepped down from getting Tine to the hospital himself - good. But it didn't even cross his mind to ask Mil about which hospital is he taking Tine? Like a normal person?
And Tine... I understand that he's hurt, jealous or whatever - I would be too -, but not even giving Wat a chance to explain himself? Wat wasn't kissing Pam or anything, Tine literally only saw Pam hugging Wat (which wasn't mutual, either). Other than that, there's nothing. If Tine would've caught Wat cheating (even just saying something romantic to Pam), I would 100% understand him not wanting to hear about Wat again. But this wasn't the case. And I'm not only saying that because I know the cliché drama-at-the-last-episode part's cliché endgame. Wat has literally not been seen cheating on screen. Ever.

Sooo Tine is super mad at, disappointed by and hurt by Wat, but he sat down with Pam (somehow still believing that Wat loves her)? Excuse me, wtf?

Alright, I think when Wat was writing that song, he wasn't in bad terms with Tine, so why say that in the audio recording? And second... why even include that in the file when you can just say that to her in person? So that everytime she listens to it, she'll be reminded that Wat doesn't love her but loves Tine? Lol.

Ugh... Mil and Wat's brother's relationship is just so wrong. Like the latter literally accepted that Mil only chose him because Tine wasn't available? Dude...

So... no kiss whatsoever? Bruh...

Kaori and Kenny are super cute and chill together. They're both mature, kinda reserved (but in a good way) - I could see them as a couple. Kaori was my favourite from the moment I saw her, and "getting to know her", I just fell in love with her even more. Even though she's on a date (and will be on a second one) with Shohei, I only sense a friendliness from Kaori towards him, not much more.

From the boys, at first I had my eyes on our notorious blushing boy too. xD But I didn't want to comment right on the first episode because I wanted to see more of these people. And right now - though I still like Ruka - Kenny is the top for me.
Like the others mentioned it too, he was really reserved and kinda quiet on the first day - but then I had to agree with Kenny's bandmates: who would be fully themselves without any reservations on the first day with 5 strangers? So now that he's slowly opening up more, (imo) being himself especially with Kaori, and sharing more of his opinions, I'm drawn more to his mature and chill vibe rather than Ruka's cute- and handsomeness.

The two (yet not mentioned) girls were the second reason why I didn't want to comment right at the beginning. I had the same first impression of them as the hosts: they're gonna cause drama with their attitude. :'D Especially Risako. But right now Risako seems a lot more chill and a lot less... intense. Even if it's only because she thinks she has Ruka in her pocket already, I enjoy seeing her like this way more than competing for people's attention.
Haruka, on the other hand... Idk, I'm the first one to appreciate a girl with "not-so-girly" interests, but this kinda bragging about it... Eh... And those looks she gave sometimes when a guy was listening to another girl (especially felt her jealousy when Kaori and Kenny were talking about drawing at the table, and she felt left out, so she asked Kenny to teach her how to play the guitar)... xd (Also, why does one have a guitar, especially one in a hard case (which is a lot more expensive), when they don't know how to play it? That plucking technique was awful...) So yeah, she might be the one who I'd have problems with behaviour-wise. xd

I may not be an expert, but when one of my strings snapped a day before a competition, we only changed that string, not all of them. Why would you change all of them if they're in good condition? Especially right before a concert, you have to tune all of them literally every minute to sound good after you put them on. Why not just struggle with one string's constant tuning instead of all 6's? :person_facepalming: (And, as I thought, his strings were perfectly in tune through all that song. That's not how it works if you changed them just minutes before.)

But moving on... Omg, that song, Mafuyu's voice, the animation... so awesome! It was a really fragile moment when Mafuyu walked to Ue after the song and they went off-stage without a word. So pure. And finally a kiss! And Mafuyu admitted to himself (or Yuki) that he found a new love in Ue! Adorable.

Yuki's voice is really nice! It's a shame that this voice actor's character is dead...
Mafuyu thought some deep things regarding that date. No matter how much you enjoyed some moments in your life, you're gonna forget more and more details of it as time passes.

I'm crying that they censor out almost every inch of skin on Jay Park just because he has so many tattoos. :'D

I agree with Eung Beom - though he wasn't that great either, but for Superbee to diss him in all of his part, to forget his lyrics and to mess up Eung Beom's part with his mistake... Man, the judges weren't fair.

It's one thing that Black Nut raps well, but is he really necessary for this show with his rude behaviour? I get that he must have brought many views, but I can't imagine him working along with any of the mentor teams.

Oh, man, One and Hanhae... TT__TT

I get why nobody wanted to befriend Heo In Chang. He really rapped for just 30 seconds in the 2nd round, then he played some kind of mind game with Seo Chul Goo and was mad at him for using less polite addressing in one of his sentences... What he didn't take into consideration was that Chul Goo was polite with him at first, even addressed him as "hyungnim" instead of a simple "hyung", so I can 100% understand Chul Goo having enough and dropping the "-요" ending and saying "네" instead of "예" after Heo In Chang's stunts with the beat choice. And he dares to call Chul Goo disrespectful when he asked the judges if they adjusted their in-ears right (just because they said they didn't hear his rap clearly)??? WTF.

OMG, I thought it was going to be YDG or someone Korean, but mAN, INVITING SNOOP DOGG?? Whoa, that's big!
Also, that sudden mission was a really good idea to bring some variety in this show. But, though I get that they were probably busy, I'm still a little sad that Tablo and Paloalto couldn't have been there.

1. So Eun Sol just happened to solve the mystery of how that kid's body was 5 meters from the wall - while she was almost unconscious from all those pills. Yeah, sure.

2. I think I couldn't express more how I hate when there are a ton of recurring characters by silently mentioning that I didn't know who the killed person was (in this episode's last 5 minutes). Not by taking a look at his face, not by his name. And it wouldn't be so frustrating if the other characters wouldn't make a big deal about it - being all shocked and crying when I literally can't remember him even the slightest.

3. I love these assumptions like "one glass was smashed, but there's another one missing just because in the second row there are 3, and in the first one there's only 1". Why be so sure about it just because that would be symmetrical? Maybe he broke it long ago, so there's only 5 in total now. Maybe the 6th one is in the sink, the fridge, the dishwasher or anywhere else. Really, why make assumptions based on what should be normal?

4. At first I really liked Kang Hyun, but in these last few episodes he's just getting on my nerves by pointing fingers without real evidence. Did he really get a warrant to exclude Baek Beom from doing an autopsy on Seo just because he was the last one he called before he died? Not even gonna mention those 3 other people who he called 1, 2 and 5 times respectively on the same day? I hate being the drama-killer, but man, this chap has to back off with his temper and grudge against Baek Beom.

I have a few questions (as usual):
- Why did the show appear again in TV after both Mike and Eddie were stuck in that other world (Candle Cove)?
- Why was Eddie a tooth monster? If I remember correctly, Gene "only" broke his finger, so he could've been a bone monster or something, but there wasn't anything related to teeth in their childhood fights.
- Why could only children "find" Candle Cove on TV (or more accurately: why did it appear only to them)? And what was that in the show that made children attack people, kill them and obey to Eddie? There weren't any hidden messages, orders for assault or anything like that in the episode snippets we've been shown...
- Why did the children listen to Mrs. Booth? Just because he sacrificed his son to Eddie?
- If Eddie was the real creator of Candle Cove, how did he make the show? How did he broadcast that on a secret channel, only to children to be seen?
- What kind of powers did Eddie have to have been able to stop Mrs. Booth's seizures?

I know it's fiction, sci-fi, but I think they could easily have answered all of these plot holes. Not with down-to-earth things, but I'm sure they could've think of something if they just took more time to build a better plot.