If you want coherent writing, or just good writing in general, with interesting characters that make interesting choices, don't bother watching this. [try the original graphic novels instead]
However if you're fond of head-walling, or need to watch dumb and reckless people doing dumb and reckless things without logic to back it up with, go right ahead.
The story in itself is great, but that's no excuse since it's taken right from the comics. The show just messed it up - if I am to believe the readers, as I haven't read the comics myself yet. And I do trust them.
I only kept watching because I am a completionist, usually.
But really, nothing excused the try-hard lazy writing, not even, or especially not the way they're randomly trying to be inclusive by just throwing things out there for about a second (yet discarding those things right away each time), like poly, queer or non-binary topics. It's like they're trying to be like "hey if we make our show hetero-normative but kind of touch on a queer subject, like not hate it, then that makes us cool right? Maybe do the same thing with other topics, should get us more viewers right? Right???"
...
Naw.
Glad I was right about the wall.
Liked Vera’s speech. It’s true. We could solve poverty, starvation, all of that. All the billionaires could fix it. The huge conglomerates. The world leading industries. They just choose not to. Because what would a world be where everyone has equal opportunities – not profitable.
The never more was a nice touch.
And then him quoting the raven I’ve been hoping for this. The rare and radiant maiden whom the angels call lenore!
While the show in itself wasn’t something I would give max rating, this last episode had a bunch of important things to say, so important in fact that alone deserves a 10/10 in my book.
Vera N.
Seems a bit “convenient” that the writers choose to have Lisa be absolutely heart broken about being pregnant, not wanting to get an abortion and then her body just doing it on its own.
Oh wait, those aren’t even legal anymore in the US right?
The upside down never looked more inviting :fearful: clearly…
With all this happening; I wonder what Dita’s take on all this is. She was barely mentioned, with this article on the side where it was mentioned how he had angry outbursts and would throw things. They got divorced and all that, but is she helping? I can get why she would want to do so quietly, if, I just really hope that she is, as that strong unbeatable woman she portrays to be :disappointed_relieved:
Let’s see how long it takes to put Warner away. If it ever happens. The systems favour the rich.
It’ll take a miracle for Bev to shut up, or better, fade into oblivion… but apparently this is a show of miracles so I shouldn’t lose hope yet! Right?
RE Pruitt: My first instincts called it. Nice.
Loving this season.
Rahim and Eric on the dance machine were just about the sweetest thing.
Jakob has started to annoy me. I don’t like when people act like they own someone else’s place. There’s a time for that, but I don’t feel that time has come yet.
Poor Aimee. It’s so typical. You think you’re the one inconveniencing everyone because well, it’s just a sneeze, but then you suddenly find yourself invaded and scared and triggered. Woop.
And what do we learn from this?
Always keep a (stolen) diamond in your pockets, it might come in handy some time.
But there's noooo way that guy got to the precinct, them figuring out he was innocent, and made it all the way back there to abduct Raol. Such a silly plot hole, not happy. If there had been two guys, sure. But not like this.
All right, now Ray's reaction from last episode made more sense. It wasn't because of her powers, it was because he thought she's betrayed them all. That's "better".
Interesting to see more about the "crazy lady".
I loved the scene with Vanya and the water. So well done and beautifully executed. Thinking she might have been able to expel the water from his lungs easier than the way she did, just vibrate them out.
Yet the more I watch this the luckier I feel for not having lived in the 60s. Sheesh, what a messed up time. I mean it's messed up now, as well. Maybe it'll always be messed up in one way or another.
"First things first"...
Uhm how about duct-taping the bad guy or some shit especially since you don't know when they'll be waking up. No let's just keep her lying on the floor, nothing unsafe about that whatsoever.
Kudos til the non-binary line I suppose, but again the whole show is a bit too much on the tryhard-track for me to appreciate their "lets try and be inclusive" fully.
And I really can't with these kids. Last episode they (although it was an adult to be fair) brought the crown key RIGHT to both crown and Dodge, and now they're bringing both unconscious Dodge AND the fucking omega key TO the fucking door?! What the actual fffffff I just feel like hitting my head against a wall and cry until this episode is over. Just... 24 more minutes.
Just so much is wrong with this. Dodge most likely still duct-tape free (I'm a fan of duct tape plus everyone has that in their house, easy) under there, and now they're trying to open a door they have no clue what does to no-clue-what-end but Tyler is awful positive about that it WILL be an end "Let's end this"... you have no idea how this works, how do you suppose you will end it by opening an ominous door a fucking demon is really crazy about opening? And they all just cast away that odd thought about where the crown is, clearly it would have to have been on Doge, and how come there were no keys on her either, did they even bother to check? No, let's just wrap it up and toss it. And of course we don't get good camera-angles when the bullets fly out, we wouldn't want anyone to accidentally see what happens.
ARGH. I need to stop ranting.
Well after all this baiting for a second season we'll probably get one. Unless they decide to drop it, and I wouldn't be sad.
Omg did that really just happen... :scream:
Not like we already saw it from the beginning, but it could have been some sort of dream-episode. Could. Glad mystery-man suddenly showing face (to Syd anyway, not us), but I hope she realised that the way he's been approaching her was a little dubious to say the least. And he has to wait before casualties happen before he decides she's worth showing up to? Yikes.
Excited for season 2, this one went over way too fast. 20 minutes per episode is just like one little brew, haha.
“What makes you think it’s your problem? If you were my girlfriend I’d have you come in less than a minute.” walks out
:microphone:
What the hell? Four seasons and now they want to kill off Vilanelle?
Plus, taking a daughter for an “adventure” and outright killing someone’s person is barely measurable. What the heck. I hope this isn’t what happened. I do realise the show has Eve’s name, not hers, and I realise the title, but still.
What the heck. No.
In other news… the 12 started as a student atheist group? Or were they already assassins and agents all of them? Hmm.
Good start and good continue of a show.
Classic riddles, anagrams, encrypted messages. It's a beauty. But then you realise it's just 5 episodes and maybe you should take it a little slower.
And I thought where the last episode took us was already intriguing, but look what's happening here. Juicy.
Also really makes you wonder who steers the game. Seemingly, nobody at the beach, but it also just seems like whoever does, has full control over even what's going on at the beach. What could be more convenient now than to kill off most of that army that's been trying to find a way out of the game in one huge thing that targets only them?
I agree with how some actions don't really make sense anymore, but to be honest, there's always been some illogical ones in this show. I guess now that it's peaking, as with so many others, it just overloads into more craziness.
I find it interesting we get some sort of background story to the characters now, even if they don't necessarily make the hugest of senses. Like, if you got bullied as kid, you don't normally end up like the one who bullies everyone else. But then again, it's probably different if you get picked up by some gang members or yakuza in Tokyo with the purpose(?) to avenge yourself... or whatever. But still, I enjoyed the little views into their pasts. Especially "Hikaru's", that was beautiful and unusual.
Well, who do you think the witch is?
Following the "team's" logic, it shouldn't be anyone from the militia... Yet it being Aguni would make sense, as i guess a lot of us are suspecting him to be the Hatter's murderer. Plus, him being so passive during the hunt, just kind of overseeing it.
Then there's Chishiya, who's always been suspicious as fuck. I had suspected him as game master the first time they met him, then the suspicions were diverted (as his actions could well be justified by him being part of the beach), now I'm kind of suspecting him again. But as game master he wouldn't have to kill people on rooftops the way he did. (As a witch however, he might)
Somehow, we're all made believe the first scape goat and best friend of the murdered girl isn't it. Although it being 10 of hearts suggests a huge betrayal.
...
What about the murdered girl actually not being dead? Or it having been suicide or something? The way the show handles realism I'm pretty sure they allow someone to stab their own heart sufficiently with a knife. But... eh.
I guess I'll have to wait and see :upside_down:
“Wow, that’s the best soup I ever had.”
“It’s whisky”
:joy:
Wow I hadn’t recognised the patient for who she was. Damn.
But also, Tammy and Bill having one big argument, and they’re already on “I walk out the door, I’m not coming back”-thing. Bit dramatic.
When Rodrick was talking to the wall again. I was like… oh gods, did they put Anabell Lee into the wall… or maybe it’s the ex-boss. But we never heard what happened to his first wife, I think. So there’s that.
This show! Jim is officially using “they” pronouns and apparently most of the crew is gay. Queer pirates, what more would you want! Well I guess, as for this episode - oranges.
Love how Lucius catches the “drift” and chews Ed out for it. I also think there can be two captains in a ship, we got that for airplanes too! :joy:
“Oh my god I think I just swallowed one (fly)”
“At least you got lunch. I’m starving”
That bathroom scene was great. All theatrical and sexy, and then… realistic and awkward hahah.
So things are trying to get us back to thinking Carolyn is (in) the 12. In that case, why hire Eve in the first place? To see what she’s got and possibly recruit her if she turns out to be pliable enough?
That deadpan lifestyle amazes me. “Oh you tried to kill me? Ugh oh well. Just another Wednesday.”
So I think eve may have an addiction. To powerful, ruthless, murderous women.
Why the magical trap would only work on the unicorn but the slug things get through, when it was designed to ensnare monsters, doesn’t make any sense.
Hope and her harem squad.
Good point. Being suicidal and thinking that’s just the logical thing to do. Yeah.
Just having finished “it’s a sin”, the joke about aids was terrible hah. But I guess it’s ok when a gay character makes it?
What a crescendo! So much tension in this one. Didn’t disappoint one bit. A masterwork I hadn’t expected from Netflix. I blame the Icelanders for delivering quality. And goosebumps.
So far I really enjoy the world-building and characters. Hope Philo has some good reason for why he left himself for dead. A real good one.
Intrigues have always been an audience-favourite, let’s see where this one / these ones lead.
Not yet sure what to think of the beauty and the beast theme here. Bit tropy.
Wow, that scene at the barn was incredible. All of it. The fight with Lila in itself was so intense, and I really feared for Allison. The whole thing with the handler, but something had to happen to stop her so I thought at first either one survived it or Harlan comes around and does something... And boom, at that point I had all forgotten about the Swede, fantastic cinematic deception here.
And the ending is so wonderful and bittersweet at the same time. I mean, it's mostly fucking heartbreaking. In a "I guess it had to be that way but wish it didn't fuck I hate life" kind of thing haha. I'm really happy about how Vanya is now a bigger part of the family, accepted, closer.
But so many sacrifices on the way. Sure, they saved the world, I guess. But for a fate. At least they've got each other, one could say.
The part at the end with the Swede and the bus ahahahah! It's like he's "Oh boy... here goes nothing" :joy:
I did suspect Harlan still having some residue of power. And I'm thinking, he's what like, 10 in in the 60s... so he would probably still be alive in their real time-line... Is that what season 3 is going to be about? In that case I'm not really expecting it to be the sweet "here-we-meet-again" as one would hope.
Love how Klaus took the hat. He's such a fashionista. "We actually succeeded at something?!?! That's incredible!" Bless you and your heart.
THE ENDING THOUGH
THE ENDING
YES
Sorry, but it just makes me happy when time-travelling is involved and people of COURSE mess up shit so nothing is as expected. Just... OH SHIT hahaha.
So looking forward to the next round, this one was incredible.
How would Edith’s little speech to Viv pull any weight whatsoever when she knows just exactly how brutal and dishonest Presidio are? Science vs family? Really lady, that’s your approach? Ugh.
And why did the show have to bring in so many tropes in the past few episodes? Here we get the “oh shit someone is out to kill us and they’re basically breaking the door but I WONT MOVE UNTIL I GET ANSWERS!!!” ... really? :expressionless:
Still a good show all in all, I enjoyed the story. The writing in the beginning of the season was more enjoyable somehow. They’re baiting for a second season, but I doubt it will be a good one. Unless they catch themselves somehow and stop it with the tropes. Give the characters some time to breathe, to develop themselves properly.
I love David the Demon xD
And the cat king is fantastic. As is Niko.
I love how they bring up things that have happened to them on the past without explaining anything. Why would they? And it spurs on the imagination. Like what is the great chewing gum debacle?! What could that possibly be?
The kittens and the worm were a really nice touch. (Badumnts)
I like these little therapy sessions in Jen’s mind. And of course he would be an inappropriate crush. He seems so caring and proper. And fit for anyone with daddy issues
What a lovely finale
I even had some tears in my eyes. Wonderful show, wonderful resolve.
