Maryanna Carvalho

[7.7/10] Given the dearth of LGBTQ characters in major mainstream works, I feel like there’s a tendency for fans to ship any two people of the same sex who shows the slightest bit of friendship or affection for one another. That makes me hesitant to suggest what I’m about to suggest for fear of falling into that trap, but here goes anyway -- Danny has better chemistry with Davos than he’s ever had with Colleen.

In fact, I think there’s a fair read of the final scene of this episode, where Davos sees Danny embracing Colleen in the rain like in so many romcoms, as Davos walking away upset that his crush is with someone else. But whether you consider it a bug or a feature (and I consider it the latter), what’s interesting is that the episode works equally well with and without that subtext.

If you choose to read it without that element, Davos still has one of the better motivated (and better-acted) presences in this show in just a couple of quick episodes. He is pulled in two directions, because he is clearly fiercely loyal to Danny (his “I won’t leave you” while Danny’s getting stitched up by Claire evidences that), but he’s also jealous and resentful of him. That makes his reactions to Danny and to the new life he’s scratched out for himself in New York layered in a way that really only Ward Meachum’s have been on the show so far.

On the one hand, Davos admits that he feels a little usurped by Danny, that he believed becoming the iron fist was his birthright and the fact that the monks chose Danny instead of him still eats at him. And, to add insult to injury, Danny abandoned his post, and set his duties aside. Danny has the thing Davos wanted most in the world, a thing that was denied him, and seems to be walking away from it, shirking his responsibilities. It’s the sort of thing that would bother anyone, and Sacha Dhawan conveys the restrained frustrations of his character well.

But on the other hand, Davos feels betrayed at a more personal level. When he tells Claire that he treated Danny like a brother and that he nevertheless just left without saying a word, you can see it emanating from a more personal sort of hurt, the type that believed they had a friendship that could not be disregarded so easily. That friendship is given texture by all of Danny’s previous fond recollections of the hijinx the pair would go together, and that adds depth to the conflict between the two friends when Davos questions Danny leaving Kunlun and asks what appeal this world holds for him.

And yet, it can also be taken a step further, that Davos is not simply hurt as a friend and brother in arms, but as someone who has romantic feelings for Danny that may not have been reciprocated or ever even acknowledged. I’ll admit this may be a stretch on my part, and perhaps I’m taking the completely dead romance the show has tried to sell between Danny and Colleen, in this episode especially, seeing Finn Jones have a modicum of chemistry with someone on this otherwise anodyne show, and concluding that by comparison, his concordance with Davos must be love. But either way, there’s clear affection, whether filial or something more, between the two of them, that creates interesting and conflicting motivations for the pair.

I’m as shocked to say it as anyone, but this also gives a really interesting answer to the question of why Danny left Kunlun. For a while, the assumed answer was a pragmatic one -- to find out what happened to his parents, but we also get an emotional one here. Danny, understandably, felt “empty” after what happened to him and his parents, and he thought that becoming the iron fist, reaching the pinnacle of the cultural collective he was brought into, would fill that in his life.

Only he finds that when he achieves what he set out to do that it isn’t as fulfilling as he’d hoped. He sits around at the gates of Kunlun stacking rocks and seeming like his duty is a tedious and hollow one. Seeing the bird flying free as a sign is kind of cheesy, but it still speaks to a relatable notion of having done what you set out to do, and yet it not fixing the deeper-seeded problems within. It adds a human dimension to Danny’s struggle that’s been lost in the usual orphan backstory and generic kung fu material.

We also get more hints that the Monks of Kunlun are not exactly sterling examples. It’s appropriate that Danny is expected to go into a cave to face trials to reach the next level of his training, because there’s a real Jedi vibe to all of his. Danny and Davos have been trained to suppress their anger and other strong emotions – such sentiment is not appropriate for a weapon – and yet it’s still there, haunting Danny and blocking his chi.

There is a sense, brought forward in an occasionally dull but generally good conversation with Claire, that Danny never really processed what happened with him and his parents, and those difficult emotions are still affecting him, even if he doesn’t acknowledge it. There are connections he has to this world that he just can’t shake using his Kunlun discipline.

Unfortunately, one of those connections is Colleen. The whole tortured “how could you lie to me?” angst between them is pretty awful, especially because we know they’ll inevitably overcome it and team up to help one another. Without good performances or writing in the overwrought scenes between the two of them, it just feels like a perfunctory bit of squabbling without any emotional punch.

And to add insult to injury, we get more Bakuto here, who plays the angry cult leader with all the charisma of worn hockey puck. There’s a common theme to this episode, with both Danny and Colleen realizing that the organizations that trained them may be less than noble, but since we just got introduced to this sect of The Hand and Colleen’s connection to it, her half of the proceedings have no weight.

The only bit of real intrigue is that we learn Bakuto’s sect is doing the same blood draining stuff that The Hand was doing in Daredevil Season 2. Otherwise, it’s more nonsensical, shoehorned in antagonist stuff that detracts from the better-than-usual things “Lead” pulls off here (including giving Claire more to do and showing off her sarcastic edge).

Much of that comes down to Danny and Davos, and whether you’d like to think of them as symbolizing an unrealized crush or simply brothers in arms, their connection has a force that’s been missing on the Danny side of this show (the Meachum side continues apace with some good if brief and kind of creepy, Joy-Harold material), and instantly adds a new dimension to Danny’s return to New York City.

Why interview the mother? Saying these people trying to track him are 'crazy, 'stalking' and 'acting like high school children' when trying to find him? Does she not comprehend that her son killed around 4 cats, a dog and a human being? Sorry, but they have every right to use any means to track this fucker down. She doesn't seem to have any remorse for what her son did. She's delusional if she doesn't think her son did it.

Weak stomachs should avoid! :nauseated_face: :nauseated_face:

I am not really sure on the message of the end. Does she realize she couldn't do this without Tedros, or does she go back to her abuser after seemingly breaking free of him? Straight trash.

Inzaghi the endgame .. and his buddies dropped by and "rained" doom on the enemies thereby paying back Vincenzo

Inzaghi is the best bro you could hope for and that is why need to be nice pigeons and not install spike on the roof.

Oh no, Alma! that was so heartbreaking!!!
Alma wasn’t the “perfect” mom and they didn’t have a traditional mother-daughter relationship, but she loved her and supported her so much!!! I loved when Beth used to tell her all about a game and even tho Alma didn’t understand it she would always listen and care.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
hands down best episode this season and one of the best overall

I was laughing the whole time during that kinky dragon shit LMAO.. very enjoyable episode

One thing I'll say is that I kinda want to know what Rick and Jerry saw inside the cat's head but at the same time I don't.. It seems very very bad that even Rick wanted to kill himself!!

what did that talking cat do ..

Does he really have to sleep with every woman he finds in the way? He's suposed to be a sharp spy and succeed in his mission, but that's quite a stupid thing for him to do. Unless it's just for the sake of seeing Tom Hiddleston having sex, then it's stupid too (as much as I like it)

It's the third time I've seen this episode and I still don't think I have ever seen a more disturbing death scene in my entire life

A great way to end that season ! Deanerys is for me the best queen

"Sam and Gilly meet an older gentleman". That may be the single most misleading synopsis bit I've ever read, LOL An older gentleman indeed. Anyway, not for the first time, I LOVE Tyrion Lannister. He's my favorite.

I'm seeing some negative reactions in here. Well, I quite liked it tbh. Had me glued to the screen the whole time. Maybe I don't remember the quality of seasons 1-5 or maybe I'm just happy with little, who knows. Everyone seems to hate this season and I have to say I'm not 100% happy with it. BUT. I really liked this episode. Anyway, what can I say.

He's back ! Vader enters the picture and immediately the heat is literally turned up. One shot, one breath of him has more weight as ten minutes from the Third Sister.
I had not imagined that him and Obi-Wan would meet that early. And now we have the question of continuity. There has to be another meeting because that one could not have been what Vader was describing in Ep IV (with Obi-Wan being the Master and he the apprentice). Yes, those things matter to me. But as one-sided as the duel here was it had me on the edge of my seat. The lightsabers in the dark, the musical score, Vaders voice - that was an amazing sequence.

How on earth did Reva get past Leia ? There is one tunnel leading to where the pilot was waiting and she had to pass Leia to get there first. Yet she was there waiting, the pilot already dead.

All in all by far the best episode. Obi-Wan talking about Padme and his memories of his own family was another great scene.

Now I'm hyped.

They'll just build a new one... and make the White Walkers pay for it.

That was seriously some of the best star wars i have seen TO DATE. PERIOD. BAR NONE. This show is fantastic!

how bright was the lightsabers my god. My oled tv and those lightsabes *chefs kiss

Best lines
I’m waiting for an old friend - Bran
You left me for dead - Hound
I also robbed you - Arya
I’ve always had blue eyes! - Tormund
Whatever they want - Dany
but
It had its moments - Sansa

They need wheelchair ramps in Winterfell. They left Bran in the courtyard overnight!

Parallelism between Season 1 Episode 1 and Season 8 Episode 1

1. S01E01 Winter Is Coming. S08E01 Winterfell.
2. Opening shot of the King and Queen arriving with the same soundtrack called "The King's Arrival."
3. S01E01 Winterfell showed grass but S08E01 it’s covered in snow.
4. The kid from the beginning was climbing on trees to get a good view, similar to Bran climbing the castle to get a good view. He was made to look similar to Bran in the Pilot.
5. Arya being a kid watching the King coming, compare to her letting a kid get a good view of the Queen coming.
6. S01E01 Jamie is arriving at Winterfell taking off his Golden Lannister Helmet and showing his blond hair, clean shave, and everyone staring at him. S08E01 Jamie arriving in Gray cloaks and taking a hood off to show darker hair and a beard and no one except Bran noticing him.
7. Both episodes ending with Bran and Jamie, except this time Jamie looks terrified.
8. Both episodes have amputated limbs from the white walkers spread out in a gory way to send a message.
9. Scenes in the Winterfell crypt except instead of visiting Lyanna Stark they are seeing Ned Stark.
10. S01E01 Cersi and Catelyn Stark talk about their kids possibly getting married while looking at them from a distance. S08E01 Varys, Tyrion, and Davos talk about Dany and Jon while looking at them from a distance.
11. S08E01 The reunion of Jon and Arya at the Godswood (weirwood tree) is similar to S01E01 Ned and Catelyn at the Godswood.
12. Incest between visiting monarchs and Bran watched both lewd acts. Bran controlled the staring scene from Drogon. Another interpretation is,
13. Dragon and riders can have personality. Drogon’s emotional expression is essentially warning Jon that this is all smoke and mirrors (as Varys noted earlier, nothing lasts). The “real” Daenerys is not the flirty kissy-face girlfriend joking about eloping; Daenerys’s true nature, underneath the playfulness, is reflected in Drogon’s intensity and focus. That’s who she is, and Jon shouldn't forget that.
14. S08E01 brothel scene with Bron is similar to S01E01 Tyrion’s scene and it is both interrupted with someone walking in.
15. S01E01 Catelyn: "Where's Arya?" "Sansa, where's your sister?". Sansa: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ S08E01 Jon: "Where's Arya?" Sansa: "Lurking somewhere."
16. S08E01 Sansa (Current Ruler of Winterfell) saying “Winterfell is yours, Your Grace.” to the arriving monarch (Daenerys Targaryen). S01E01 Ned (Former Ruler of Winterfell) “Guarding the North for you, Your Grace. Winterfell is yours.” to Robert Baratheon.
17. S01E01 Robert Baratheon to Ned "I have a son, you have a daughter, we shall join our houses." S08E01 Arya (Stark) and Gendry (Baratheon).
18. S08E01 Sansa being more than wary of Daenerys, similar to Catelyn in S01E01 was of Cersei. She is exactly like her mother (Catelyn) in the greeting.
19. S01E01 Robert asking Ned to be his Hand of the King in the crypts is similar to Sam in S08E01 telling Jon he is the king in the crypts (Hinting Sam might become Jon's Hand of the King).
20. Sam and Ned both share a few similarities; Sam is the smarter one in their duo, Sam and Ned's fathers/brothers were burned alive by Targaryens.
21. Jon/Robert - great warriors, “brothers” to Sam/Ned, and both seeking for the iron throne but also both doing it for reasons beyond wanting the throne (protecting the realm / saving Lyanna and removing the mad king).
22. S01E01 Ned’s farewell to Jon he says “the next time we see each other, we will talk about your mother. I promise.” In S08E01 Jon is staring at Ned's tomb while Sam tells him about his real parents (Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen).
23. S01E01 Jon is distraught over his identity crisis as a bastard. In S08E01 Jon is distraught over his identity crisis as a king.
24. In S01E01 Cerci tells Jamie to kill Bran. In S08E01 Cersei tells Bron to kill Jamie.
25. In S01E01/S08E01 Arya is jumping into Jon's arms as he lifts her!
26. S01E01 A child is “dead” and crucified to a tree. Child attacks brothers of the nights watch. A brother goes south (then executed by Ned Stark). In S08E01 a child is crucified to a wall. Eddison Tollett (Edd) witnesses, and he goes south to warn others. Side note: Opposite of what brother of the Night's Watch did from S01E01: safe to say he won’t be executed by Lord of Winterfell considering he was one of the reasons the current Lord of Winterfell is alive after himself being executed.
27. S08E01 Daenerys "The North is as beautiful as your brother claimed, as are you." Similar to S01E01 when Cersei said "Hello, little dove." "But you are a beauty".
28. S01E01 The last time Jon and Arya spoke, she was given her sword Needle and jumped up on Jon to hug his neck. S08E01 Arya jumps up to hug his neck, then shows Jon that she still has Needle.
29. If Cersei taught Sansa anything, it's not to blindly trust a beautiful queen coming into Winterfell and promising to protect her and fulfill her wildest dreams.
30. S01E01 The whole family standing in line for the king. S08E01 The remaining Starks and their advisers waiting for the queen and Jon
31. In S01E01 Jon Snow gets a pet Direwolf (Stark), in S08E01 Jon Snow gets a pet Dragon (Targaryen).
32. S01E01 Surprising return of and the existence of dire wolves south of the wall shocking the northerners. In S08E01 The return of and existence of dragons also shocking the northerners.
33. The arrival at Winterfell, the only person that rode in both caravans, was The Hound. In S01E01 the hound wore his trademark dog helm, but in S08E01 he wore nothing. It seems to symbolize his transition away from The Hound and to being himself, Sandor Clegane.
34. In S01E01 Ned kills the deserter and tells Bran "the white walkers been gone for thousands of years." Bran in S08E01 says we don't have time; the white walkers are coming.
35. S01E01 Robert and Ned are standing in front of Lyanna Stark's tomb. In S08E01 Sam and Jon are standing in front of Lyanna Stark’s tomb.
36. S01E01 lady of Winterfell (Catelyn) reading a letter by candlelight. S08E01 The lady of Winterfell (Sansa) reading a letter by candlelight.
37. In S08E01 When Sansa and Tyrion were discussing the wedding at Joffrey. Tyrion said "Last time we spoke was at Joffrey's wedding" "Miserable affair" Sansa said "It had its moments" recalling Joffrey's gruesome death and being satisfied by how it went down. Recalling "fondly" in this instance would be sarcasm. In S01E01, Sansa thinks of Joffrey fondly because she wants to be queen.
38. S01E01 Sandor Clegane comes to Winterfell with the Bastard Joffrey Baratheon. S08E01 Sandor Clegane comes to Winterfell with the Bastard Gendry Baratheon.

Foreshadowing (from different Seasons/Episodes.)

01. S03E05“ “Let’s not go back. Let’s stay here a while longer,” Ygritte tells Jon. “I don’t ever want to leave this cave, Jon Snow.” S08E01 “We could stay a thousand years. No one would find us,” Daenerys says to Jon.
02. Sam is suggesting rebelling against the Targaryen because they burned his father and brother alive. Similar to when Robert's Rebellion, began when Rhaegar Targaryen, allegedly abducted Robert's betrothed, Lyanna Stark.

Ending was so damn exciting.... Guess you have to wait for the next episode to confirm that Jamie is dead or not...
I don't think he's dead tbh
Totally Ninja episode

I choked on my chapati when Gong Yoo showed up LOL.

FUCK YOU JOHN WALKER STEVE ROGER'S LEGACY IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY GETTING BLOOD ON HIS SHIELD BECAUSE YOU KILLED A MAN WITH IT, YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

GodDAMN this show is just not pulling its punches.

For the love if shit, people. Without the first 3 episodes we wouldn't have this episode. Without the first 3 episodes this one wouldn't be as impactful. It's storytelling and all part of a larger whole. Stop saying, "finally we're getting somewhere," or "this is what the show should have been from the start." Its a journey. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Holy shit.

How badass can Lyanna Mormont be?

Critics everywhere were saying this show is the worst Marvel show, the worst Netflix show...are they insane? That's all I have to say about that. Sounds like they were talking about Luke Cage or something, because Iron Fist is pretty awesome.

Someone move this episode to special instead of season 1

If you missed the after credits go back and watch them !

Damn, I'd what a movie out of this

Ironic how this is the 13th episode

This is so sad, Alexa play The Ghost Of You by my chemical romance

Did you know diarrhea is hereditary?

I usually do not watch TV episodes till after the credits roll but there is actually an after credits scene here that noone should miss!

Have people not realize yet that this is a low stakes, stand-alone kind of show?
"adds nothing to the MCU". No shit!
Does everything have to be fucking connected? Lighten up, DUDES.