I have a few questions (as usual):
- Why did the show appear again in TV after both Mike and Eddie were stuck in that other world (Candle Cove)?
- Why was Eddie a tooth monster? If I remember correctly, Gene "only" broke his finger, so he could've been a bone monster or something, but there wasn't anything related to teeth in their childhood fights.
- Why could only children "find" Candle Cove on TV (or more accurately: why did it appear only to them)? And what was that in the show that made children attack people, kill them and obey to Eddie? There weren't any hidden messages, orders for assault or anything like that in the episode snippets we've been shown...
- Why did the children listen to Mrs. Booth? Just because he sacrificed his son to Eddie?
- If Eddie was the real creator of Candle Cove, how did he make the show? How did he broadcast that on a secret channel, only to children to be seen?
- What kind of powers did Eddie have to have been able to stop Mrs. Booth's seizures?I know it's fiction, sci-fi, but I think they could easily have answered all of these plot holes. Not with down-to-earth things, but I'm sure they could've think of something if they just took more time to build a better plot.
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@kbogesz There are indeed quite a few plotholes in this especially in regards to the TV show which kinda sucks. As for the teeth I'd guess that it is because of Eddie (?or Mike) having one additional teeth and that being their main identification to keep them apart (which would fit with his goal of crossing over as Eddie).
That feeling when you probably should have checked that the random OVA you grabbed ages ago and just got around to watching was actually a 1 hour recap.
Still, I've seen worse. Reminded me to get hype for S2!
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@maniacb tfw you start that OVA before S2 and read that it's just a recap
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A one-sided piece of propaganda. Truly disturbing in what it wants to convey.
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@joelbar I found some of the comparisons to behavior in the animal world quite interesting the penis glans supposedly being shaped like that to remove sperm of others seems like a load of bull tho... but then it progressed the typical VOX route of throwing charts at you without basis and unnuanced propaganda indeed.
Lot's of lazy at display here and quite a shitty battle... this is SAO alright.
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@deanzel They are a bit above loli imho :/...
How does one manage to make "action" scenes boring? Adapt a light-novel about a FPS apparently. And as it should be for SAO the seemingly incompetent girl is famous and a Mary Sue.
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@maniacb This was penned by Kino's author? Consider me shocked ~.~
3Hz is certainly good from a production standpoint but what I've seen from them is not enough to trust them, esp. Celestial Method turned quite bad towards the end (same director).
As for the show so far; Episode 2 was certainly better for having actual "character" interactions and being the actual starting point of the story but it still has the issue from the first episode in it for me... she can hardly grasp the game mechanics but still manages to make herself a name as the "PK" king of that zone against multiple enemies which one would expect to be better than her (even if it just was the level or equipement).
I did not see many negative comments on Episode 1 when I checked but some ANN staff seemed to look past their pocket money:
The biggest issue with this premiere is the same one that plagues so many light novel adaptations, where the script is obsessed with relaying technical minutiae and the finer points of tactics, but nowhere near focused enough on telling a compelling story. In fact, if you ignore the backstory that comes with the mainline SAO series, the plot of this episode can be described in a single sentence: LLEN is a tiny pink girl, M is a large burly man, and together they shoot some guys in an online game. Outside of getting LLEN and M from Point A to Point B, the entirety of this episode is devoted to M breaking down the mechanics of squad formations, avoiding sniper vantage points, picking out the sounds of different ammo types in a fire fight, and so on. This kind of details-obsessed focus on guns and gunplay is meant for a very specific audience that I don't belong to, because I found a vast majority of this episode pretty boring.
(still a 3/5)
I'd recommend to wait a bit longer if you can and don't want to get burned. Since this is SAO I'm prepared to hate watch anyways.
Bow-chicka-bow-wow. Classic Lizard sex moment right there.
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@deanzel kill me now. At least we're finally past them now :/
how can people often rate a whole series at just one Episode or before it's even aired? stupid
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@ruegnueg Well, 3 votes are pretty much none tbh...
Not as terrible in execution as Arkangel but I couldn't help but burst out laughing in one of the key moments due to the stupidity of this where it should have been a moment of tension instead. I mean that this show is an anthology is a good thing but this was on par of British no-budget genre film... if you want me to invest in your setting at least bother to make things to have at least a little bit of sense. Turning it black & white is not enough.
- The dogs technical functions seemed to jump around all the time... This is sort of endless. / Can magically generate and store power forever apparently (since it can still charge from within the factory)... still goes on standby. / Instead of killing the target point blank it prefers to instill a tracking device before it kills the person. / It just hides in the factory.. because robots. / Abandons factory straight away and goes for the target not instilled with a tracking device. / Can at first only track people via tracking device (still kills the other guy and can drive a car just fine however), later on it can still employ a sort-off wallhack (it did the tracking by an endless stream of blood left behind LOL)... however once it was in the house it could not see behind the furniture she was located at. / Can apparently only kill with a weapon(knife here) after it lost it's weapon - scary. / They suddenly swarm the area so they can supposedly communicate with each other, but that isn't really seen in their behavior regardless.
- The reason for getting a teddy this far out can't be made up. If this really was a dangerous world people would have helped themselves differently (and not by leaving the dying kid there). This wasn't just something that happened a few days ago anyways.
- We are supposed to believe this is a world that exist. So obviously she first runs away when the first guy gets attacked, only to stand still to have him tell to run away again on which she still does this as she wouldn't have cared either way.
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@gongasf Since this is Black Mirror we can assume these are man made. Seeing how the robo dogs were swarming their previous locations it is pretty clear to me that they would follow a systematic logic - and are not self-aware beings with individuality. But even then, it would be quite the dumb machine if it actually had a quirky personality and just wanted do it's killing in such an inefficient way. So yeah, this was 100% lowquality fiction based on "WHAT IF THE ROBOTS AT BOSTON DYNAMICS STARTED KILLING HUMANS" x "POST-APOCALYPSE". Please don't make excuses for the writers.
Had I known a little of the backstory I might be invested in the episode, but this was pointless
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@mistamojo_ca This wasn't really for the love of a child specifically. It was because they promised her sister. I know it's true that a child gets upset about loosing it's favorite toy, but it's a child afterall. The show tells itself what happens to their toys after a while in the next episode (and lookalikes usually work too to distract one). Here we have a lady with the serial number of the toy written down on her hand traveling with two blokes somewhere far out to a factory, all the while when a child is suffering and close to dying... This has me at a hard time believing this is about the spirit of humanity, more the opposite really. Consumerism won (given the lengths one would have to get through to get that serial number and the toy being the final thing the boy supposedly desired from them and them weighting this that heavy)...
Thanks for your reply though. I'm pretty jaded with BM I guess.
Had I known a little of the backstory I might be invested in the episode, but this was pointless
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@mistamojo_ca I'm curious to hear what you make of the final shot? I fail to allude much of a point in this. So she didn't get the replacement Teddy... either she's gone mad or there are people in this world which can still live without a worry for food or water so that it's an acceptable cost to risk three lives for this instead, lol... The kid was dying, it's a dead world apparently but they are traveling somewhere far out to a factory (to look for a box she has had the serial number noted down)? If this really was a world like that they would have stitched something together themselves instead of disappearing on the kid.
ok ok i thought that we were going to have more before that ending that scene with her beating her mom up was pretty brutal, the episode takes a bit to get going but it pays off, not a perfect one, but a relevant one perharps.i just wish there was a bit more before it ended or made things slightly more interesting by putting Sara as a LGBT character for example
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@marasvinicus The "Arkangel" technology does not really fit together with LGBT topics, or at least would have driven the narrative towards this completely and thus distract from the core idea (of her mother overstepping the boundaries and abusing it). This was teenage angst at play so it doesn't matter if you think that her "issues" were superficial (kinda offensive tho). Her mom would have reacted the same way regardless of what "issue" she would have assessed in her daughter's life.
For me this would have been more interesting if they focused more on the harms of "censoring" your child's perception of the world or the effect of "body mods" for a growing child. There was little point in putting on a generic drama for this kind of a cliché.
Dunno why he wanted to report this, but it certainly is an odd statement to make imho :]...
ok ok i thought that we were going to have more before that ending that scene with her beating her mom up was pretty brutal, the episode takes a bit to get going but it pays off, not a perfect one, but a relevant one perharps.i just wish there was a bit more before it ended or made things slightly more interesting by putting Sara as a LGBT character for example
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@marasvinicus How does making her gay make this more interesting? It would totally change the dynamics of what it was trying to pull off...
Trump bashing is getting old.
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@mrmindway If only it were just that. This season is painful to get through...
Somethings in this epsode felt in poor taste to me. It's like the writers didn't want to invoke neo-nazi imagery so instead they softened the mob to be low-IQ hicks. It's an easy target and the show is basically saying "Hah! You're not smart enough for the jobs we have and the jobs you used to work now have all been shipped off to China and India!" Sure. That's kind of the problem isn't it? Nothing insightful or funny about that. In fact it's kind of horrifying, given that low IQ people who have no job prospects historically lead to uprisings. South Park can often be cruel and find humor in that cruelness but not usually when doing social commentary. It also just wasn't funny. Dumb hicks are tired humor. There was nothing risky or all that original. There were some good bits with Seri and the parody of home repair shows. Last season had a weak opener so I hope it will pick-up (but also not devolve as the later episodes of the previous season did.)
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@lonelypanda Totally agree... the "South Park rednecks" were the wrong pick for the subject matter (with which they did nothing). It just came of as insulting... Did not chuckle once.
Well that was a cute and enjoyable series ultimately. Probably not particularly memorable in the long-term but it looked pretty nice and had some fun characters and endearing moments.
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@maniacb True dat but I can't can't help to be a little creeped out by the way the relationships with the teacher is portrayed at times... as innocent this might appear.
Orgasmic. I always looooooved the character design from the manga and feel. seems to be doing a solid job. The sheer variety of Mizuki faces in the first episode already made my day. With, of course, the best moment (and face) of the episode at the end...
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/pgqBhnBEzm2WeDVck6Csp2SmuZy.jpgThe only thing that would make it better was if they had used Gumi's vocaloid song as an OP/ED...
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April's Fool "Big Guy" dub incoming when?
I'm not against harems but this felt really bottom barrel. Bland visuals, unfunny jokes, and a mindless waifu already. /dropped
loading repliesYou can't be dropping this already?!?!?! Who else will watch/suffer through this show with me :(
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@deanzel I can make it through lots of crap but this had really nothing going on except for the twist that they're all girls. Given that his waifu is just annoying and that reveal played nothing into it I cannot phantom how this is going to roll for 12 episodes. What they showed from inside the game did also not look great.
Sorry but you will have to cope without me :)..! Hundred is another option for a harem though (but I'm slightly scared)?
Ehhh.. really, killing of the cat like that? Seems like a jerk move placed at an unbelievable moment.
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@ManiacB Looks like I never replied :). It was a possibility that the cat died, it's just a bit of a stretch to do so at the specific moment.
I have no hesitation in saying this has been the worst KyoAni show I have seen. People were harsh on Tamako Market but that was Citizen Kane compared to this. Thank god it's over now and we can look forward to the likes of Hibike S2 etc.
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@ManiacB Personally I felt this episode was really awful :)... The mother/Enigma story wasn't anything well built up on pretty much rushed. Feels like they just needed a battle to end the series with.
I'm bad at putting numbers down but whenever I look at my ratings I realize that I either need to up my median by one or be meaner to the "meh" shows in my ratings :D...
I have no hesitation in saying this has been the worst KyoAni show I have seen. People were harsh on Tamako Market but that was Citizen Kane compared to this. Thank god it's over now and we can look forward to the likes of Hibike S2 etc.
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The rating is still nice tho?
Ehhh.. really, killing of the cat like that? Seems like a jerk move placed at an unbelievable moment.
loading repliesIs it really that surprising though? The narration previously kept saying he was sleeping longer and longer. It was very clear to me pretty much straight away the series would end when he died of old age.
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@ManiacB It's more the way the did it... it was just too convenient as I could have believed it.
Damn. While the teacher was super obvious as the killer, I was hoping that the creators were throwing us off on purpose with a blatant red herring. Other than that flaw, this was a fantastic episode with a "mini-showdown" between Satoru and sensei. With only two more episodes to go, it's f'n game time.
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@humpadumpa So, did you get those answers (seeing you already rated it as a 10)? There was no motive at all, just lots of reinstating that he is evil. The killer is giving up his clean slate and planning to be seen leaving with him and to do what, try to drown him (why even order bentos there)? Also Satoru can't leave the car because it was previously mentioned as a sticky belt... did he poor in super glue or what? And the next step in the master plan? Leave town, how unsuspicious.
This show has nothing on Monster and and they shouldn't be compared. The killer here was never a real antagonist and did very little so far where as Johann left his trail.
Satoru has only been trying to "save" people instead of getting any clues together so yeah, not really a great mystery either way.
Wow. Gotta give props to Studio DEEN with the "boob physics" in this episode. Well done. Boing/10.
And how can this masterpiece only have 10 episodes this season?!?!?! That is a crime against humanity.
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My fellow countryman too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGousWLx6Is :*.
Wow. Gotta give props to Studio DEEN with the "boob physics" in this episode. Well done. Boing/10.
And how can this masterpiece only have 10 episodes this season?!?!?! That is a crime against humanity.
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This was the worst episode though... And now you ruined it by telling me that it's already finishing next week ;(.
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VIPOG12Not sure I fully bought the second half of this episode. I have no problem with him skipping forward again (judging by who's in the opening It was only a matter of time), but for the whole second half things felt a bit awkward and oddly paced to me.
Hopefully just a minor blip in the series. Maybe I just need to get used to the "future" characters again? It just felt a bit jarring after several episodes in the past that seemed a lot better paced and directed.
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Considering that they announced that the manga is ending and the show getting the same resolution it isn't surprising at all. I don't think that the "present" scenes are much worse though. The "I want to change the future"-stories have had their fair share of iterrations and a guy like Kenya is just as on the nose as the manager was in the second half. The foxes were also about as cringy as the father having his life ruined by getting accused of stealing a chocolate bar...
The one thing that really rubbed me the wrong way however was Airi being so happy-go-lucky when confronting him. Not a hint of compassion for his dead mother, blushing and making jokes??
Dear SrCap:
Ho, you need to sit the fuck down. GOT and this show are not to be compared. TSC is a pretty decent show, with a great story and a stunning visuals. However the depth and experience of the cast pales in comparison to GOT or even shows like Vikings and The Last Kingdom. People are rating this miles above GOT must be die hard lovers of teen fantasy/teen drama, and do not appreciate the depth of serious dramas.
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Ugh, this episode sucked. I'm really not enjoying this series so far. The pseudo-science about memories in this one was way too unbelievable and badly handled. It's also one of those episodes that only thinks to start foreshadowing something just before it happens (e.g. Mai's flashback to when she was a kid, just before she happens to meet them again). Even KyoAni's normally above-average direction and visual prowess aren't enough to make this one engaging, it seems. If this was done by any run-of-the-mill studio nobody would bother watching it.
It doesn't help that thus far, none of the characters have been particularly likable or show any level of character depth. Really, the only thing this series has going for it is the fanservice and that's not really enough. One more dud episode and I think this one is dropped.
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I really hope the loli ends up killing the main cast (or at least Reina) to spice things up \o/. From what is around from the second book (http://vipper.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1453370361/) I highly doubt that they're going to get an elegant turn to a "proper" story.
This was really uninspired; be it comedy, fanservice or action (break, break... tune, tune, tune... bleh, bleh HHaaAAAaaA). No idea why they wanted to publish and adapt a work they themselves saw as subpar... Here is hoping that the computer device brings a decent story along with it.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-27/no-grand-prizes-given-for-4th-kyoto-animation-award
The official website of the anime studio Kyoto Animation announced the results of the fourth Kyoto Animation Award program on April 5. However, the studio awarded no grand prizes in any category, and no honorable mentions in the scenario or manga categories.
The judges committee thanked creators for submitting their works but said they could select no winning works in those categories after reviewing the submissions. Kyoto Animation offered 1 million-yen (about US$10,000) grand prizes and 100,000-yen (US$1,000) honorable mention prizes in this year's awards.
Novel Category
Grand Prize
No winnersHonorable Mention
Phantom World by Sōichirō Hatano
Manzai Sen ka! by Aji Miyaku
Yatara Uro Uro Mettara Doki Doki by Kōji Dōgu
That pretty much says that they weren't impressed by it (despite later then publishing it inhouse). Subpar might be a rather liberal interpretation but seeing that they don't see it as a winner is not exactly a sign of trust.
Looks like there is another solid show at start. The cast looks interesting and the manga's reception hasn't been bad either. The rakugo parts were done quite well with the seiyuu's getting their time to shine. It's a Josei so it might not be everyone's cup of tea.
This first episode is a merge of the two OVAs clocking at 45 minutes (OVA1 being 45 minutes, OVA2 being 35 minutes).
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I think you probably should.
It seems that hard sci-fi series are back in the game. Besides Black Matter and the Killjoys we have now the Expanse. Comparing the three pilot episodes, this one was the best. They did a decent job in building a large universe with clear rules and relationship (in Black Matter we know next to nothing about the bigger picture of the universe and in the Killjoys it is too complicated and bad explained). They had nice ideas with G-forces and general orbital mechanics, but in the end the whole physics in this episode is bogus. If they refine their character and really use their sci-fi setting it has the potential to become a really cool series. The risk is to do a story which could be told in any setting without science fiction, often caused by lazy writing.
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How are Dark Matter and Killjoys "hard sci-fi"? If that applied to them they wouldn't exist in the first place.
Anyways, I hope it's better than both those shows, the first one being bad and the other blandly milking GotG.
