if anyone ever wants a definition of the term "anti-climax" then i think it's really great that we now have the perfect example
I’m not ready. Not even a little.
Really interesting episode, not the "kids these days are on their phones all the time" kind one might have thought watching the trailer, but instead focuses on a much more serious issue surrounding the mentality of certain groups, and how those specific echo chambers function.
It's definitely an episode that is made by its ending. The hyperbole of the allegory might seem too exaggerated at first. But when things start falling into place it becomes clear that it serves a purpose and helps highlight the main message.
The final part is what makes the whole episode really work, for me the ending was quite fitting, given the point that the story was trying to get across, and Ncuti Gatwa was phenomenal in his performance, especially during the final scene.
This was a great episode but it made me wonder why did they lead the show and even bothered producing those first two absolute garbage episodes when they clearly are able to have decent ones like those last two?
I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BUT STILL:broken_heart::broken_heart:
I've never been so happy to see someone get slapped in my life. Frankly I've been waiting on that moment for years! As this series evolved Alicia slowly became everything she hated about Peter (a liar, a conniver, and a cheater) which was why she slapped him in the pilot, so hopefully Diane's slap brought her back to her senses and she returns to being the Alicia from the first few seasons that we loved. I'll assume that's what she was thinking as she walked away. Does this mean Diane is The Good Wife now? Also, if they wanted to parallel the pilot, they should have made Peter go to jail again because he deserved it.
Let's make LMDs of the writers of this show and give them to the flash, legends of tomorrow, stargirl, supergirl and others if needed :rofl:
What is even going on with this season? Is it bad that I'm not even sad about Cisco leaving? what does that say about me as a fan this many seasons deep and the direction this show is heading? Guess better not think about it or I'll be depressed.
My name is Barry Allen and I'm the... weakest hero alive. I'm so sorry about everything and it's all my fault. I have so many locks on my door one would thing I didn't have superpowers. I'm glad my awesome wife and her awesome friends know I am the Flash cause I sure as hell don't remember that. I also think it's superswell that they are Team Citizen and I just LOVED the long pause as they look into the great beyond. I'm the Flash, or at least I was... Now I'm just The Streak. Cause my wife invented that word and it resembles the streak of shit in my underpants that I constantly have these last seasons.
Oh and Mohinder... He's in this too. I keep forgetting.
Just let me get two things out of the way I think were weak storytelling.
First, putting the drive on the hub was the stupidest thing to do as it could only lead to her getting caught. It also was illogical as it was clear that they would just override it and/or claim it as false. Granted she didn't know about the Janitor room but she knew there was surveilance everywhere and because of that might reach the conclusion that all those feeds had to be watched somewhere. But the story needs to go on so I'll take it.
Second, its hard to believe that they didn't inspect the stuff they brought to Juliette or they would have found the note. Even not knowing what it meant they would not have let it through. Plus, from a storyelling point of view it was giving too much away. Would have been better to not show it. Instead they could insert a scene when Juliette is about to break down to explain that she didn't die. And speaking of dying, Where are all the others that went out? Does someone actually go out to collect the bodies ?
Now, for the big reveal at the end I have to say I didn't see that coming. After making us believe (and I did) that it is safe outside, not only do we learn it is not, but there are literally dozens of silos out there. Does that mean the whole of mankind lives underground ? My guess is that each one thinks they are the only one and each one does have someone taking care that it stays like that. But we still don't have an idea about why ?
There is one thing I noticed that I want to point out. When Juliette told Holland about the door below he seem genuinely surprised. As if he didn't knew. That was the moment he ended the conversation. Just saying.
So, I don't know the books but from reading elsewhere I understand we barely scratched the surface of the story. I wonder how slow they will go with this one. The second season is already confirmed but thre is always the chance of not getting a third, or forth, or however many they need to play this out.
I sure hope we're not getting left hanging in the air atsome point.
i hate seth with a burning passion and i hate that the boys took up so much screen time away from the girls
The world needs a mask to go outside but Caitlin Snow does not need one to perform surgery
What a touching finale. Whatever you say about this show it's nice to see a diverse, talented cast, with good LGBT representation, all ending up happy. I'm actually sorry to see them go.
Although i'm still waiting for a faithful book adaptation; probs not going to happen...
Trying too hard not to judge it based on one episode only! But..
the "vibe" of the show is way different and demons look more like x-men than an evil creatures.
Being a faithful Charmed fan I really wish somehow it will work and if it doesn't still hope this attempt won't stop them from trying
to bring charmed back again. I'm praying that this works out and doesn't ruin the charmed legacy and it appeals to newer generations.
Bode annoyed me in this ep, oh a key in a clock, no idea what this could be… like please think for one sec ^^ especially after what happend with the snow globe you’d think he learned
is it noticeable I’m sick of time travel „tropes“? :‘)
(+ little kids lol)
AND he just has to have a DETAILED book with their biggest secrets laying around like he wants the villain to have a tutorial on how to win
Yeah, OK, we get it: only one of the kids has super powers for now, ... but why fucking exclude him from the whole "Trip down family history lane", he's still your kid Superman, Jesus. Way to divide the family.
I think Lena is overreacting. Kara confessed and apologised, what else does she want? I don’t like what the writers are doing with this story. Everything else was greath though and Katie McGrath is perfect as Lena.
Oh wow, I've to say, it somehow feels like a whole new show... definitely subverted my expectations for this season.
[8.4/10] My first (semi) live IASIP premiere! Huzzah!
Like everyone, I wondered how the show was going to deal with Dennis’ absence, but I probably should have expected what we got, a delightfully meta riff on what the absence of an essential character means, replete with boatloads of raunch and comedic takes on co-dependence and remaining static.
Maybe that’s a little high-falutin for a show as juvenile as IASIP, but I don’t think so. Especially as this show has gotten older, it’s gotten more ambitious, and dare I say deeper, even as it slings episodes where people play a sex doll like a tuba.
I think my favorite thing in the episode is how it explores the ways in which The Gang is fixated and dependent on Dennis as an ingredient in their group, while being blind to the ways in which he holds them all back. It’s striking how better situated and successful everyone seems to be with Dennis gone and with Cindy (Mindy Kalig, ably taking part in the show’s particular banter) calling the shots. The plans are better formulated, there’s more positivity, and everyone seems do be doing well overall.
Everyone except Mac, that is. I appreciated the tack where Mac, most of all, is still fixated on Dennis, and without his sexuality to repress, he’s now just repressing his crush on Dennis, replete with a lifelike and disturbing sex doll. The meta humor of Charlie and Dee assuring Cindy that no one knows why Mac does what he does (probably just a cry for help or attention) and to ignore it and move on was well done in that vein.
But Mac gets The Gang stuck on the “Dennis-shaped hole” in their lives in the same way that Mac does. The bell tolling as the camera zooms in on the unnerving face of the Dennis-esque sex doll is a great running gag, and I like how the episode uses it. Dee is feeling self-confident, Mac is proud of his body, and Frank and Charlie are competently executing (and appreciating) the plan for once, only for them to hear Dennis’s negging and have it still bring them down.
It’s a frickin’ neurosis, and the show uses it both for humor and for its dark character explorations. The way everyone instantly regresses, and falls back into old habits is well done. I even like how they tie things in with The Waitress, using the whole “absence” thing to tie into Charlie never wanting to talk to her and then tying that into her hearing the Dennis doll too, showing that he’s burrowed into everyone’s brains. Community’s pulled the same trick (and with a similar, albeit more network-friendly version of the same archetype), but it still works in IASIP’s more sophomoric setting.
And I like how the show turns that into a miniature referendum on whether the show itself will evolve (which it has, despite maintaining much of the same style and humor) or whether it will remain the same, reuse the same ryhthms, and so on. It’s not the first time the show’s tackled this sort of thing, but it does it well here, with Cindy representing change and something new, and a surprise return from Dennis himself representing the comforting but sclerotic business as usual.
Of course, this is The Gang, so they go with the easy and familiar. Dennis returns, the status quo is maintained, and with it, the rest of the group are doomed to confidence-shattering insults and failure once more. There’s something implicit in that -- the show kind of admitting that it’s not inclined to evolve or get better in a self-aware but kind of cynical way -- but then again, maybe they know that those familiar rhythms are part of what we love about the show, even if tired bird jokes start to grow thin for both writer and audience. Either way, it’s good to have IASIP back.
OK, this is a pilot and they already judged sororities and men in general.
The lesbian one checks all the preconceptions there are about lesbians (for example: they hate men). Well, at least thats my take on her character.
Who goes around telling everyone what consent is and that it can be revoked at any time.
And then using the phrase while advertising for pilates?
using one or the other would have been kind of cool.
Using both in the same scene is just desperate.
Besides the SJW-Stuff: The speech about winning prices for deciphering magic scientifically was way too much.
Also: "Baking-Powder works too"? It exists for quite some time now, if witches are powerful and intelligent women you should think someone would have thought of it already or at least it would have happened by accident...
Also: Way too extreme special effects.
The Original Charmed worked as a mirror for boys/men who watched it (Can't speak to what it did for girls...), while still being fun.
This Pilot felt more like being judged for things you haven't even done.
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To make it clear: Consent can be revoked at any time. I just have a problem with people, who feel the need to tell it to everyone every chance they get and kill the mood for people who are clearly both consenting.
And I also hate it, when people assume that a man won't respect a no. The ones that don't are an absolute minority.
Scenes like this strengthen that preconception...
This season felt really rushed.
This season has been awful. Season 1 was decent, 2 was bad, but this one is truly terrible. This finale was the only episode that was even mildly enjoyable in any way. Glad it's over.
Observe as the Flash gets sad about his best friend moving a 5 minute run away.
Aside from that, this episode continues this seasons trend of stuff just kinda happening. This week Cisco is leaving, and he gets one of those episodes that's all about him cause he's leaving, but it doesn't quite meet the level i'd expect for a character who's been on the show for 6 years.
Father Kinley, what an asshole. I wonder what his plan is. If he wants to create conflict between Lucifer and Chloe, it must be for a reason.
I really like how conflicted Chloe is and how she keeps going back and forth between almost believing Lucifer is a monster and knowing deep down that he's not. I think it's all very in character. Also I want to punch myself for not immediately getting that there was a deeper meaning behind Chloe taking Trixie to Rome of all places when it was mentioned last episode. You know, Rome. The place where Vatican is. I feel stupid.
Also Linda is pregnant with an angel baby? Should be interesting.
People please realize that episode 25 and 26 where never meant to be in season 3 but in season 4 and since Fox cancelled Lucifer they were going to waist but Fox then decided to air them anyway as an olive branch towards the fans. They weren't supposed to be the next 2 episodes of season 4 but just episodes that would come in that season.
OK REAL TALK. It's getting irritating how everyone is always finding excuses for Owen's actions and behavior since his day one on the series. And I have been one of those people for such a long time, which is why I used to like that guy. But recently (few seasons ago actually) I've started to believe that maybe he's just not a good person underneath it all. And I no longer can stomach anyone who tries to blame his shit decision making and apathy towards others on his past. There. I said it.
Bailey: "Karev did something better than us..."
Webber: "...and he can never know!"
