Lets stay on track and keep it about Space and less drama on earth.
I don't know why everyone is coming down on the show. Perhaps, they don't like the dry humor. It's very funny, not LOL funny, but very good.
I don’t get the Cara Delevingne hate. More tolerable than Amy Schumer.
This finale should've been the whole season. How come in a show about the Rings of Power the forging of the three rings felt like a 10-minute throwaway plot whereas harfoots' goodbye took so long and got so much attention?
The two character reveals were not a surprise and a huge disappointment. The biggest let down to me was not seeing Sauron in his fair disguise, manipulating the elves of Eregion. They could've spent EPISODES exploring Sauron's power and deceit, building up his friendship with Celebrimbor, so that later the betrayal would actually hurt. Why rush Sauron living in Eregion and the forging of the rings plotlines but spend several episodes on the harfoots????
What i did enjoy were the visuals, especially the shots reflecting Sauron and Galadriel in the water, and the final shot of Sauron in Mordor. I thought Charlie Vickers' performance was particulary good in this episode and he's the one I'm most curious about going into season 2.
An absolutely wonderful beginning. All the spirit of classic Trek, characters that are vibrant, a sense of fun and adventure, and it brings up relevant modern issues like Trek always has. I can't wait to see where we go from here. Anson Mount and Ethan Peck are just brilliant in their roles as we already knew, but the new cast seem to fit immediately too. Celia Rose Gooding in particular captured the vibe of Uhura very well, even though we saw so little of her. And that was a nice little surprise with the Lieutenant at the end.
I can't be the only viewer who rolls his eyes at all the fan service.
Enough of LS, fss! Move on. Do something fresh. Bring in new characters.
How weird it is that the best episode of "The Book of Boba Fett" doesn't have a single scene with Boba Fett?
Is ash their son or just someone who worked for them?
Anyone else think Ruth's dad was gonna rape her when he got into bed with her?
Pretty decent episode though
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This show suffers the same problem as Kenobi.
It was highly anticipated and everyone is waiting for "the" one thing to happen. It is easy to look at. Meanwhile we get one action scene after another but little content. I like lightsaber fights as much as the next guy but even I are bored by them at this point. And they are stretched out for no reason other than to fill the time. Furthermore monotone one word dialogues, and totally predictable writing. And you realize by now that this should have been a movie rather than a mini-series.
Even the massive reveal at the end wasn't a surprise as the title of this episode alone was a massive spoiler in itself.
But this is how you catch bees. Just pour enough honey over it.
Great series so far. Obi Wan season 1 was clearly a missed opportunity and shite next to this.
I could repeat my comments from last episode, but I won't do this. In a nutshell: it looks awesome, but the story and most characters are mediocre. I still enjoy it but it's certainly not great.
Let me talk about something else instead. Tolkien's work and Jackson's adaptation have always received their fair share of criticism regarding ethnic and racial stereotypes. One example is the problematic Wagner-ish portray of dwarfs. I won't go into this. Enough was said about this. In this show, they added Hobbit "ancestors". Hobbits were never funny and a a big fat Irish stereotype. Now they added this element of "migration". How could you not think that they are inspired by Irish Travellers? The Harfoots have other traits allegedly ascribed to their culture: they too love music, gather around campfires, organize themselves in families and live at the edge of society in relative poverty. It's like costume artists were fans of The Kelly Family. I'm not even saying that only negative stereotypes are reverberated: the Harfoots are too likable to immediately incite prejudice and discrimination against Travellers. But I wonder why they always do that in this franchise? Why do they often use a discriminated ethnic or racial group as a template and why do they choose to portray them in a very stereotypical way? They could have designed this people very differently very easily. Who's next? Gypsies? Pygmy peoples? Sámi? Eurasian nomads aka "horse people"? It doesn't really bother me though. (I'm not a snowflake and I realize that fiction is different from reality). This was mostly an academic remark. But I think, it was worth to be mentioned. Instead, very interestingly though, the show is (totally unfairly) criticized by some for including (as in: inclusion) black actors. Really? It makes you think whether "our" value system is well calibrated.
PS: I knew it. Yolandi Visser is one of these weird, otherworldly, pale elves. These guys are elves, right?
can't believe i just sat through nearly 4 hours for the worst ending ever
At this point I feel like it might be better to just stop watching as Obi-Wan, one of my favourite characters in the SW universe, will be forever linked to this lazily written show.
I guess Disney thought all the viewers wanted to see is some iconic characters back on screen not caring about how they'd have to do it because people would eat it up anyway. And the worst thing is, they were right.
But hey, EPIC LIGHTSABERS ON MUH 4K TV SCREEN AND VADER IS BACK!!! WOW BEST SHOW 10/10. Absolute joke.
but WHY would the children want to go live with their born again grandpa?? do they have any idea how horrible it is to live with a fundamentalist christian?? i know they hate their mom but they can just move lol charlotte did it before they can live at the motel
and charlotte can forget her wine and her weed and jonah can forget his all nighter laundering money or gaming whatever the fuck that little creep does
please don't tell me that this is the end of Holly. I love Holly!!!
I've been saying that the timeline in this show is f***ed and this episode show why
Whoever was responsible for the directing and editing of this series did really an awful job.. Present and past are all f****ed and mixed together.. Not saying that it can't be done but the way they did it here is awful and very confusing for the viewers.. Confuse us for 6 episodes so you can tell us more on the 7th episode.. Wow that's an awesome idea, well done
Another thing I extremely hate is the time frame in this show.. I don't know how many days, months or even years has passed between each scene or each episode and with them jumping around in time makes even worse
The show runners really have something with time, they need to be logical about it rather than creative if they can't do it right
At the end I'm only saying this because I liked the show, so I want it to do better in the future
Maybe I’m one of the few who really enjoyed this episode, and I’m just saddened that this is the case.
“Time to Fly” is a action based episode to show in few dialogue the dynamics between Ashoka and Sabine, a dynamic which we only hear offscreen but so far never seen it.
The chase is the part where both of them need to find common ground and survive together. Sabine must put aside her frustration in her training and Ahsoka must start believing more in Sabine’s insights. When they finally start to listen to each other, they are able to flee and with 20 min you can feel that they had done this many times before and cast light over a relationship crucial to this show and to the plot it is creating. With few episodes I believe this was necessary, as much as the Mandalorian Episode where Grogu eats Spider eggs while Mando tries to free the ship from the ice. Few dialogues, storytelling by action. [Which is also written by Filoni]
Ahsoka space lightsaber fight was something never done before in Star Wars tv and movies and it was thrilling to see and the Huyang perception of Sabine as one of a line of Jedi’s who defies the common Jedi rules (Dooku>Qui-Gon>Obi Wan> Anakin > Ahsoka)
Was a nice new point of view on Sabine being a Padawan.
The chase is not about the stakes or the survival of the characters. The story plays as it is being told to you after they survived, and you want to know how. How one single ship on enemy space scape 6 ships and three heavy cannons and lived tell their story. It’s not about the stakes of who will leave or not, but what they will endure until they find their friend.
We also have an insight on why Ahsoka trained Sabine and how she perceives Sabine and the use of the force as something anybody can do, going beyond the Jedi order. She is not training Sabine as a Jedi Padawan, but as a Rogue force user apprentice. This breaks again the binary viewing of the force and help expands the notion of Ahsoka being a renegade gray Jedi.
Not only this, but after Rebels and Andor, seeing the rise of the rebel alliance and with Mandalorian seeing the inefficiency of the New republic, the Hera and Chancellor part of the episode showed the sense of suspicion of the new senate and how they were able to allow the first order to return.
Amazing episode with a lot done in 37 minutes and few dialogues. A feast to the eyes with the chase between the Purgills, thrilling to see how Sabine and Ahsoka worked to fight the enemies and new information to the plot of the series that just make this really really interesting!
Can’t wait to see where this is going!
[4.8/10] Stupid stupid stupid. Why does it always have to be the Borg? Why does it always have to be some random, shocking twist instead of just sticking to what you’ve built to through the prior eight episodes? Why must it be chock full of credulity-straining retcons and cheesy coincidences?
The plot twists here are dumb as hell. The whole biological Borg “seed” being implanted in Picard’s never-before-seen son retcon absolutely breaks my willing suspension of disbelief for how convenient it is. The Borg getting a biological assimilation upgrade that basically lets them flip a switch and assimilate everybody is a cheap bit. And god, the fact that it only affects people under 25 is such a convenient dodge to get the old crew in the driver’s seat.
If that weren’t enough, the nostalgia-pushing here is so blunt and obvious. Yes, it’s very cool to see the Enterprise-D again, to hear Majel Barrett’s voice as the computer again, and to see that set recreated with familiar faces standing on it, ready to go defend none other than the now-Admiral Shelby. But the method to get there is so unearned, so full of psychological and narrative gymnastics to arrive at this destination, that the warm feelings built from seven seasons of the old show are muted by this new one’s transparent attempt to invoke them to cover for its dumb twists and reheated conflicts.
This one’s not without its pleasures. Shaw sacrificing himself and calling Seven by her real name is a nice and well-earned moment. Data’s “I hope we die quickly!” declaration is a solid laugh. I’m glad to see Shelby in live action again and to get a reference to the USS Pulaski.
But this episode all but squanders the goodwill and good work the show’s managed to pull off over the course of season 3. After finding ways to channel high points and fond memories for the old show to tell new stories and move things forward, why are we back to Star Trek: Picard’s mind-numbing plot twists and threadbare nostalgia? What a waste of a fairly good build to this point.
I feel like a miserable person because everyone seems to enjoy this episode but me. And when I think about how the Original Trilogy, The Mandalorian and The Clone are probably my top 3 of the Star Wars shows and movies I should normally love this, right?
Of course I was excited when all these iconic characters showed up but maybe it's because of how many of them were introduced in just a single episode, but it felt a little cheap. Not to mention, I think this show is extremely predictable; for example the Cad Bane scene went just as I thought it would, him shooting the other guy while only wounding Vanth. And it's not just the scenes that are predicable - the dialogue in this whole show feels cliche and uninspring.
I'm always here for more Luke and the cgi for him is very impressing, though I'm a bit disappointed that he is so harsh with the attachment rule, I don't think it fits his character very well considering his arc and own attachements in the OT. But this may as well be a test he puts Grogu through so we shall see.
And even though I adore Ahsoka, I'm also personally not the biggest fan of Rosario Dawson's potrayal of Ahsoka, not sure why. On a sidenote, I know they can't really make her lekkus longer in live action because of the stuntwork but I wish they could at least somehow make her "horns" (montrals, right?) bigger. It just doesn't look good the way it is now.
But hey I'm nitpicking now, my biggest problem with this show is the dialogue and overall writing; With the exception of the 5th episode (I loved that one) I just don't think it's very good. And of course the lack of Boba Fett in his own show is jarring but then again whenever the focus is on him it's not very interesting either. The story is lacking and it's a shame.
Damn, I'm disappointed right now. It started off so well with the first episode. But with each passing episode it felt more like two different shows. One on Trantor about Empire. Which was fucking amazing science fiction and mesmerizing to watch. But also one on Terminus about the Foundation itself. Which felt like a cheap SyFy spinoff in the same universe. Very bizarre.
Still an entertaining watch throughout but it could have been so much better.
Best episode of the series.
That was tough to watch
Well its happened, they made alien invasions boring.
[6.0/10] This was the saggiest episode left. On the Picard side of things, we're gathering up the band, and few of the new crewmembers do anything for me. The show tries to slap together some meaningful backstory between Picard and Raffi, but can't pull it off, and she and Picard have no on-screen rapport to speak of. (The "J.L." nickname is beyond dumb.) Rios feels like a generic jerk with a heart of gold, and the accent routine doesn't do much for me either. I like Dr. Jurati more (if only because she's a better actress than the other performers), but the writing for her characters is just as questionable. It's a tall order to have to follow-up the cast of TNG, but this new crew definitely doesn't cut it in the early going.
The other half of the episode is pretty sorry too. Miss me with this whole "double-secret Romulan prophecy B.S." It feels like such a generic tease, and I'm already tired of the mystery box material. I'll admit that it's a thrill to see Hugh again, but the episode barely does anything with him. And the weird, vaguely incest-y Romulan super spies is some hackneyed/weird Bond villain nonsense.
Overall, it's been three episodes and the show still hasn't really won me over. I am a lifer, and pretty much going to watch no matter what, but it's hard to term this anything but a disappointment out of the gate. Thankfully, there's still seven more episodes for the show to, well, grow the beard.
"Directed by Jonathan Frakes". Guest stars aren't always in front of the camera :)
Also, Charlize Theron <3
Up next, Natalie Portman? Besides the episode itself, guest stars are becoming something to look forward in "The Orville".
This show has turned up to be quite a pleasant surprise, it's undeniably very "Star Trek" at heart. It feels odd to admit that, as a Star Trek fan, I'm actually enjoying this more than "Star Trek: Discovery".
Visiting Mandalore was cool and I always enjoy seeing Kate as Bo Katan. I also liked to see Grogu getting more to do then just beeing cute.
But, again, there was little content aside from the final minutes. Before that we get to fight monsters multiple times and have to deal with a frightened droid (which I don't think was funny). And I think at this point they are overdoing Amy Sedaris anyway.
The potential of the show is still there but having in mind what the first two season did it's still far behind at this point. Now, the final scene was great and I'm looking forward to see what comes next.
Pretty generic sci-fi so far, could be set practically anywhere. This first episode feels like a lot of set up, which feels odd since the characters and scenario are pretty generic. Will give it a few more episodes to see if the show can distinguish itself.
The best last five seconds ever :smile:
The acting of Ewan was phenomenal. He really sold the PTSD broken Jedi. The chemistry between Ben and Leia felt real and reminded me of the banter Obi-wan had with Anakin, Ahsoka and Rex. I smiled when rusty ben gets help from fearless little Leia. The intro of Vader was chilling and he looked and sounded exactly as I remembered. We even got some lore and name dropping. I'm really sorry that I have to say this but I do feel like they fumbled on the landing.
I get that Darth Vader wanted to make Obi-wan suffer and wanted to take his time, but this is only 10 years after their duel. He should have been way more unhinged and certainly would have had no problem in preventing Obi-wan's escape. Simple force crush of the loader would have been enough. Sorry but anything other than a vehicle getting them out of there at high speed is bad writing ( like they evaded Maul in episode 1 ). Vader searched the entire galaxy for a decade and he's now being stopped by 5m of fire in between two over sized molehills?
Second huge question is how Reva got to the pilot first? Was there a shortcut that Tala and Leia didn't take ? Why did they take the long way round ? Did Revan meet Tala on her way back and then did a forcerun flash to pass Leia ?
I don't expect Star Wars to be Godfather quality but I really hope they explain those things.
