Erm... I realize that the protagonists can't be just fired... but are they really worth many other hospitalworkers? Why keep them and not somebody else? It would have been more realistic to at least fire one of them: Why keep Reynolds (the deputy) but not the chief? (Granted, the triangle situation was tiresome but in the hierarchy Batiste had a better standing...) Why fire the Head of Neurology? And that conflict between Lauren and Casey was rendered moot when he was let go.
And we know that Max and Helen won't leave - so all the "bad" decisions are going to be reversed anyway.
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@nicky2910 I completely agree with you. Why let Baptiste go and not Reynolds, since the latter has left once already. Why Agnes? Makes no sense!
I can't watch the next episode just yet, but I feel like the series just died since sometimes side characters like Casey or Gladys carried whole segments of episodes. And now they are gone?
A++++ acting from Julia Garner
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@rghmf I really hate her ungrateful, entitled screaming, which I suppose speaks volumes about how great Garner is an actress
I might have not liked the season overall, they have spent too much time in the past and the writing was very far from perfect, but this was a very enjoyable season finale.
The farewell of Q was surprisingly touching.
And the rehabilitation of the Borg is an interesting twist, which I don't think will last for long.
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@bence-55475357-947e-44d4-85e6-001de37fdc9e Completely agree with you on this episode. I also like the bit where Adam Soong pulled out that book that said Khan
I knew the moment he purchased that phone that Wendy was gonna have her own brother killed. That’s fucked up!
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@datbabyaintmine This whole season seems to be about her becoming Walter White.
I'm in love with everything about this, but reusing the Game of Thrones title theme is some bullshit. Djawadi is perfectly capable of writing something new and exciting, or an alternate orchestration at the very least.
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@thoroughmas Absolutely this. They can't escape that this show is much smaller in scale, and so we get a pretty poor, tedious title sequence that looks sort of ok because of recognition bias with the theme tune.
I'm going to miss this show when it's gone. It's been far from flawless, but what it has been, every single episode, is an obvious work of art. This entire series has been created in the service of such a unique artistic vision and has been given more license to hew close to its dictates than really any show that I can call to mind. It's eccentric, sometimes uncomfortably so, and yet for just once in my life that pattern of behavior hasn't been a form of pandering or an appeal to some "lowest common denominator" either. Hats off to the Kings for having the guts to make The Good Fight and the street cred to get CBS to pay for it; hats off to the cast and crew who saw something in it that was worth their time (especially Baranski, McDonald and Lindo, heavyweights all); and hats off to you, my fellow viewers, for congregating in sufficient numbers to let this little experiment persist for six wild and wacky seasons, pandemic notwithstanding—let's hope this final season ends up being the curtain call that we all deserve.
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@roguescholar Hear hear! I'm quite delighted by the fact there are enough others out there who, like me, really enjoy a show this bold. Enough to get 6 seasons of it -- not to mention the Kings' other shows!
Another brilliant episode. Still in awe of the breathtaking visuals and the amazing score. The acting is really good as well and just overall very good storyline so far.
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@roanoke860 I hope one day you recognise what is objective and what is subjective. Strange that you can feel so confident your opinion is fact when millions don't agree.
The only thing that keep bugging me with this episode was Viserys' whole face looking like cgi. What happened to the practical effects and makeup?
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I thought the effects on his face and entire body looked incredible.
The Queen Who Never Was…
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she should have burned them all
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let it be heard. Rhaenys is, was and will ever be kinder and more regal than any of the Hightowers as she just didn't get them in the coronation ceremony. She truly is the queen they never was.
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They pulled a Trump and perpetrated a coup. Made me sick to my stomach to watch
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let it be heard. Rhaenys is, was and will ever be kinder and more regal than any of the Hightowers as she just didn't get them in the coronation ceremony. She truly is the queen they never was.
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@heyappledp Yes, she showed pity to Alicent, a fellow mother, by robbing countless mothers of their sons and daughters XD
54 minutes of snoozefest that could have been told in 5. Last few minutes are good, but not enough to save the episode.
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@strykar Because the back and forth of Allicent and Otto is dreadfully boring compared to how it's handled with Littlefinger and Varys in GoT? Instead of interleaving multiple complex stories with subplots, we get a single dull through line with most of the beats predictable? Instead of distinct characters that you both pull for and against with complex plans and motives, you get a handful of petulant characters that you have no interest in their ploys and just want all of them to die. I get everyone is fanboying over this series, but so far it's been Medieval Days of our Lives in poor lighting.
54 minutes of snoozefest that could have been told in 5. Last few minutes are good, but not enough to save the episode.
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@strykar I don't know what's funny, you're reinforcing my point. The series so far has suffered from the same problem as the Hobbit....stretched too thin to hold up for as long as they are trying to make it. Fewer, tighter episodes would be much more interesting.
As for the acting carrying the show, they are limited by the writing and character development. Rhaenys is a well defined and rounded character, but the Hightowers mostly come across as 1 dimensional. Maybe we fix the direction in the finale and lead to a more interesting season 2. Everything up until the ending of this episode felt like preamble.
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VIPOG12So the whole thing is because the king said the name of that dude, but his wife thought it was the name of their son? Wtf is this kindergarten bullshit?
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@TimeRaider It might not have been clear, but Alicent's father, the Hand, has been poisoning her mind for most of her life. One thing she stuck to though is that she will do anything to protect her sons. Also, Rhaenys opened her eyes to this and told her that she understands all to well what Alicent has been through. Had Alicent not stepped in the way, then her son would have been toasted like a marshmallow.
One dracarys could have delivered the justice, but I guess then the show would not be as interesting as it is now.
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@3ton Rhaenys made it clear that she understands Alicent on a personal level. If Alicent hadn't stepped in front of her son, I can promise you that he would have been toast. Could that moment of weakness been a huge mistake? I imagine we're going to find out.
Can the sad sacks rating things before they air please find a hobby? Something productive to do with their time.
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@crazyleyther can the sad sack please let people enjoy their stuff? If they aren't spoiling, no harm done ;)
... and there are how many of these things on the planet :flushed:
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@danio1972 There are still 10 active RBMK reactors, if that's what you're asking. You are aware that there are many different types of nuclear power plants right?
Review by No More Stories Are Told Today
Overall, funny but offensive in some ways that are important, in others just mean. I also find it frustrating certain things seem to get more public attention than others. But the comments in general about trans people come off as the "crazy racist uncle" trope of yesteryear who Chappelle himself would mock when they'd excuse themselves by parading their one black friend as if it was an excuse.
I won't even attempt to excuse his mean spirited jokes about the trans community. Whilst his friend may have loved them it's still the sort of thing that wounds people enough to drive them to what I hope he doesn't wish on anybody else.
Some jokes didn't land at all for me, the "antisemetic" joke for instance. I don't get what was funny or offensive about it, probably because I just simply don't get what he's referencing, neither did my Jewish husband. Either way it seemed odd and out of place among everything else. It just made no sense to me at all.
All in all, my viewing experience is probably very different to that of someone who is trans. So I can't and don't think anybody other than trans people should be saying whether it's transphobic/offensive or not.
I'm very conflicted about this as I love Chappelle and feel awful about what happened to his friend. But I know that if he were a white man making the same kinds of jokes about a black person I would be upset, too.
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@d0l The alleged "antisemitic" joke is hard to miss. Dave talks about a plot-line for a movie based on aliens from outer space, in that plot-line those aliens are originally an ancient civilization from Earth which accomplished space travel and left planet Earth to colonize a new world. A few millennia later something went wrong in that new world and the Earth-aliens decided to return to their home-world, Earth, which was now populated by new civilizations. As a joke, average at best. Still a funny metaphor for the Israel-Palestine ordeal. There's nothing offensive about it.
In general, I haven't been keen on the latest specials by Dave. There are some funny bits, but they're the exception rather than the rule. The comedy is too political and although I like that he's one of the few comedians that aren't PC, I don't like that he expressly makes the topics political on purpose, even if he is right about the supreme hypocrisy that rules western society.
Added this to my watch list this weekend, because it seems to have triggered the Leftist cancel mobs. So it must be good! :joy::joy::rofl: :ok_hand_tone3:
Update: This is Dave Chappelle’s best work IMHO. Every call out about that racist, marxist movement is 100% correct. This is a must watch, for any rational thinker.
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@durack That's one way of letting people know that you don't know what racism or Marxism are.
This isn't his best work.
This was personal for him and something he felt he had to do.
It isn't, however, high on laughs. As a consequence of needing to clear his chest and speak to criticisms, it feels drawn out. And as somebody who does care either way about much of the subject matter, it felt labored.
It ends on a sad and poignant story. Chapelle's own feelings and the telling of the story came across - to me at least - as a touch contrived and had a vague whiff of insincerity lurking in there.
As a stand up special, this cannot stand next to something like Bill Burr's last 3 or Chris Rock's first 3 and be considered strong. It just isn't in the same ballpark.
Dave has made a resurgent career on speaking wisdom under the guise of stand up. Until now, he was excelling. This one just didn't tie together.
6/10
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@porteruk great, thought out review. thank you for being in depth with it and not just saying "this is good because he spoke out on transgender!"
What is his point exactly? Being Black and transgender is not mutually exclusive, so no you cannot play the victim card after saying shit like "I'm team TERF." That is equivalent to saying "I'm team KKK." Gender is not a fact, sex is. Goddamn it Dave, you should know better than this.
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@jasperz77 You're saying that as if it's something I don't already know
What an absolute perfect ending, and I say this while admitting this ending didn't go the way I expected it to. Like honestly, how many of us actually thought Picard was going to survive this episode? I didn't, but I'm damn sure glad he did, even if we never see any of these TNG characters ever again, which I honestly doubt we won't given the ending. This was an emotional final send off however for this crew that honored and respected each of them throughout the season, every single one of them got their grand moment to shine, Riker with his asteroid, Geordi with his ship, Worf with his rescue, Crusher with her contraction discovery, Data defeated Lore, Troi rescued them in the end with her love for Riker, and Picard saved his son. And how about that borg queen, holy absolute hell was she horrifying looking or what? Anyway, what a beautiful ending that they all deserved, and one last poker game for the sake of it all. Am I excited about the future with Q showing up to tease the next series with the Enterprise G? Sure, but not as happy as I am that the old timers I grew up with got their swan song and somehow, someway, all survived. And if you didn't burst into tears when Riker and Worf decided to stay back to find Picard, basically sealing their death, then damn it I don't know what will satisfy you in life. Was this show perfect? Fuck no. Was the 3rd season without flaws? Bahaha, no! But if you can't appreciate what this really was meant to be here, I don't judge you, I just feel sad you couldn't feel the raw enjoyment the rest of us felt, because this was fucking awesome.
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@celozzip you must be fun at parties.
I'll be very, very careful to give this pilot episode too much praise as I've been burned twice in the past already.
I do like the episodic format, that's a step in the right direction. That doesn't rule out an overlaying thread developing, though. The way they displayed Pike's struggle with the knowledge of his impending death was the highlight for me especially since I just happened to watch "The Menagerie" a few days back. Anson Mount picks his portrayal of Pike up where he left it. And he really bears a good resemblance to Jeffrey Hunter.
The story was OK althought, again not really subtle in delivery. But I guess in a pilot the introduction and establishing of characters is more important, anyway. The look is good, you can clearly identify where the designs come from. But why has every room on the ship to be soo huge ? They do look bigger then on a Galaxy Class ship and that was many times the size.
There were some things I didn't like and maybe that's just me being cautious. All in all, not over the moon, but they literally just left spacedock.
So, let's boldy go where no one has gone before. And don't repeat the errors of recent incarnations (and that's a very personal point of view).
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@finfan this episode was kinda soft, like they didn't want to risk too much. But they're clearly aiming for the older Trek audience with this one. I took the bait, so let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this one also won't turn into a turd in space!
Still have season 2 of Picard to watch, not sure if I should bother with it (just finished STD - yes, I'm still watching that space turd, it's very shiny and polished and bright).
Another series Plagued with feminist crap, I couldn’t even suffer through two episodes without fast forwarding through 90% of it it’s just typical California Hollywood progressive crap.
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@krazy1969 I imagine someone was saying something similar about the original series back in the late 60s with the multicultural crew and looked how that turned out ... 56 years later.
it had 3 reviews with 2 star rating before the episode even finished airing. literal bots bombing this great episode for no reason.
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@trakt-tv-bhavesh typical conservative incel bullshittery
I think Hemmer will become my favorite charachter on this show. Hopefully we'll see more of him.
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@finfan Hemmer kinda seems like the Jett Reno of the Enterprise. I don't care much for him (for now), but I care a lot for Jett Reno. Maybe he'll grow on me. But the nurse sure is peaking my interest. And I really like this Spock, probably more than the Spock from the more recent movies. And I'm rambling, now.
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Well, it was clear where this would go... still, really poignant episode, typical Star Trek. And the helpless anger in the end, knowing that this child is suffering beyond help, and that another one is being groomed to take over in the future, over and over again - well done.
Granted, children suffer now and in the ST-age... but voluntarily send a child to a life of suffering just that the others may live in luxury, no, there's no moral high ground to be found here. But a couple of questions remain, such as those ancestors who built the machine, did they leave plans behind? And why not relocate the whole population if the planet seems inhabitable without that machine? Was the former colony meant as relocation world once upon a time?
I guess, Kirk, especially Trek-09-Kirk, would have blown that machine up. Can't say I'd have minded much... even though I actually prefer the uncomfortable TNG-like non-resolution we got here.
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@nicky2910 I think uncomfortable non-resolutions are more realistic within the Trek / Federation universe. I think our films, TV, and books generally lead us to believe or expect clean, black and white resolutions but I think the pseudo-unresolved ending of this episode was arguably the best thing about it.
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Well, it was clear where this would go... still, really poignant episode, typical Star Trek. And the helpless anger in the end, knowing that this child is suffering beyond help, and that another one is being groomed to take over in the future, over and over again - well done.
Granted, children suffer now and in the ST-age... but voluntarily send a child to a life of suffering just that the others may live in luxury, no, there's no moral high ground to be found here. But a couple of questions remain, such as those ancestors who built the machine, did they leave plans behind? And why not relocate the whole population if the planet seems inhabitable without that machine? Was the former colony meant as relocation world once upon a time?
I guess, Kirk, especially Trek-09-Kirk, would have blown that machine up. Can't say I'd have minded much... even though I actually prefer the uncomfortable TNG-like non-resolution we got here.
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@2ls1t Exactly my point. Uncomfortable, thought-provoking, that's at the core of Star Trek.
That was surely one of the Star Trekkiest episodes that ever Star Trekked. I could easily picture this being a TNG story. Hard hitting, tough, highly watchable. Pike's hair continues to impress.
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@lefthandedguitarist I came here to say what you mentioned in your first sentence (although in a far less amusing way). This could have easily passed by as a TNG episode, the only difference being the amount of hair, regarding the captain. Pike's hair is turning into its own character, always there, always watching, maybe one episode it'll decide to take things into its own hands (it will most definitely develop hands, by then).
Review by LNero
This was my first episode of this show that I happened to catch. Some good dialog and acting, some not so much, and some of both that was unnecessarily difficult to understand due to a combination of speed-slurring accents, mumble acting, and very wide dynamic range audio mastering. It really wants to be a film, despite not quite knowing what to do with its own cameras or aspect ratio. I like the style it's going for, but it's not quite there. Really, quite uneven in ways that it doesn't have an excuse to be. Still, it's definitely better than anything "Trek" branded that we've had in over a decade.
This plot was executed better in Stargate SG-1. There, it didn't seem like an arbitrary hand wave to set up the moral conflict. Here, they explain nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's all a straight copy of the short story The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, which, incidentally, was read by DS9's Nana Visitor in one short story audiobook release. In SG-1, they gave a reason why it was necessary, whereas here it's just "we don't know, ~the ancestors~ made it". They also don't show (the writers didn't bother to come up with the inside of the mystery box) how or why "the machine" needed a child's brain, or—more importantly—what it even fucking does, and how that enables their quantum gobbledygook tech, which I am now convinced was nothing but headline-gleaning buzzword injection. That's almost JJ Abrams tier writing. Either they knew what they were ripping off, and didn't want to come up with the exact same explanation, or they read the short story and didn't bother coming up with one because they're incompetent writers.
The surrounding drama was nice, though, and it was cute seeing Lindy Booth, unexpectedly, in Star Trek.
Also, no, I can't let it go. She stupidly gets too close to the insurgent traitor, then gets grabbed and nearly gets her throat slit, but then the middle-aged dignitary chick maneuvers her way and out-Judos her palace guard. Looks like, not only is she a bad judge of loyalty, but also didn't bother training any of them how to fight (remember, he did just win a fight with every other guard along the way). This is heavy handed and perfunctory writing, and it makes it difficult to take it seriously, or to feel any real sense of tension when the writers just do whatever they want, anyway, and you can see their will in every action. It's the same shit every time, now. Everyone is an action hero, because other skills don't matter and make the character worthless and weak if they can't wrestle a trained guard or win a contest of strength against the bad guy. Thank, MCU.
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@lnero If you're curious about what SG-1 episode I'm referring to, I'd suggest you just watch season 3 if you haven't. If you have, the title is "Learning Curve", with Heather E. Ash credited as the episode's writer.