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I thought they're not after her for having a high M-count, but for her ability to retain any transplanted. And, ultimately, so they can take her apart, see how she ticks and modify Snoke (Palpatine's clone) to accept "M" transplants successfully, so they can supe up his M-count.
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@stijnmaes1992 You really should check the meaning of spoiler as this is not the first time you're blaming someone. That comment is not a spoiler. It's a thought about what he thinks is happening in the story.
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A timeless TV classic from when the whole family came together to watch. Totally worth a re-watch after all these years.
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@noodlebrain What do you think ? :wink:
@aeronmelon After reading your comment I watched the scenes again and I don't hear it. And Ventress is not a clone, she's Zabrak. But we'll see.
@harlillyquinn Uh, that didn't even cross my mind but it's an intriguing idea.
Well, if the plan was to portray how dire the situation is they did a good job. Whole episode was grim but also a bit boring I have to admit. The final five minutes redeemed this somewhat. But no Bad Batch in "The Bad Batch"
Omega is still very naive. My guess would be they have Snoke, or an earlier version, in that vault. In the end it has to lead to what happened with the sequels and that's the bitter pill I have to swallow.
I find it hard to believe thought that no one noticed that Nale Se discards Omega's blood samples all the time.loading replies
@vwfringe Thanks for the link. Took me a while to get to it but I finally watched it.
I think it's a really good analysis of SW. It has always been for kids, I myself was twelve when I saw ANH, but that doesn't mean it can't also be for adults. I do like some of the Disney shows for what they are but not all of them. But I agree wholeheartedly why Andor is special in that mix. Which is exactly the reason why some people I know don't like it. And that's fine. You can't satisfy everyone, althought I something think Disney doesn't know who they want as an audience.
Ultimately Disney has extinguished my interest in new SW. I quit watching "Ahsoka" althought she's one of my favorite characters. Not the live action version, though. I will complete The Batch because it's the last season and I want to know how it ends. I do look forward to next season of Andor very much, hoping they don't destroy it, too.
But all the new shows/movies being in developement, I have no interest in.
I would have switched the first two episodes to be honest as this is a far better season premiere. And with the final shot than leading into Omega's confinement and that new facility location makes more sense to me.
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@stijnmaes1992 And where would the spoiler be? Omega's confinement in the new facility is already confirmed in episode one and the comment doesn't say what the final shot is.
Well, if the plan was to portray how dire the situation is they did a good job. Whole episode was grim but also a bit boring I have to admit. The final five minutes redeemed this somewhat. But no Bad Batch in "The Bad Batch"
Omega is still very naive. My guess would be they have Snoke, or an earlier version, in that vault. In the end it has to lead to what happened with the sequels and that's the bitter pill I have to swallow.
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@vwfringe Could be. There has to be a reason why they are after her. But truth be told, I wouldn't mind for once not having a special one. We already had Anakin, Grogu and Ezra. But like I mentioned they need to bridge the gap to the sequels. I don't like it but I accepted it. Doesn't mean the story can't be good.
Thanks for the reply.
Are lighting guys in short supply or something? I can't see shit this episode. :person_shrugging:
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@noodlebrain It's part of the darker and grittier approach they want to achieve this season. :wink:
Lowered my rating as I was so bored on S2E1 I turned it off.
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@defestated Same here. Althought I made it a couple of minutes into eps three.
I'm surprised to find that I don't believe this movie holds up to modern audiences. It has some good cinematography and is good for its time, but not that watchable today. Only Kubrick fans who want to be educated on his early work should watch this. Kubricks previous movie, Paths of Glory, is a much easier recommendation and a much more reasonable length as well.
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@jidar I find it intersting that you point out Kubrick fans should watch this while he himself disowned the movie and did not include it as part of his canon
Great so far. F*** the haters, some people don't know their elbow from their arsehole, so why the hell should their opinions matter?
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@anubis81 I respect that you like the show, but to say that negative comments, or in this case comments that don't reflect your own opinion, don't matter is a prime example of what's wrong with the world.
You like it, other don't. Both matter !
Episode was OK, although at times I wasn't sure if this is pro or anti PC.
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@zoloft True.
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This show suffers the same problem as Kenobi.
It was highly anticipated and everyone is waiting for "the" one thing to happen. It is easy to look at. Meanwhile we get one action scene after another but little content. I like lightsaber fights as much as the next guy but even I are bored by them at this point. And they are stretched out for no reason other than to fill the time. Furthermore monotone one word dialogues, and totally predictable writing. And you realize by now that this should have been a movie rather than a mini-series.
Even the massive reveal at the end wasn't a surprise as the title of this episode alone was a massive spoiler in itself.
But this is how you catch bees. Just pour enough honey over it.
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@lenodos maybe I'm reflecting a bit after the fact but I really wasn't surprised or shocked to see him. I would not think of Sabine as a "Fallen Jedi" as in my eyes she's no Jedi to begin with. The others - could be.
The lightsaber fights could be more impactfull if there wouldn't be one or two every episode. That's my point.
But different opinions are always a good thing otherwise there'd be no discussion.
Thanks for the reply.
Sabine getting stabbed by lightsaber: I am fine, tis but a flesh wound.
Ahsoka on top of ship in space: This is fine, I am going to do some acrobatic jumps in space, fall back on the ship and prevent the enemy from blowing us up using my lightsabers.
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@beestmann That could be an explanation but it still would be a thin one. But lets see what happenes next week. They really need to come up with something because otherwise I would like to know why Ahsoka doesn't return the favor and pulls Ezra out of time just before he vanishes so that it's only Thrawn who disappears.
Sabine getting stabbed by lightsaber: I am fine, tis but a flesh wound.
Ahsoka on top of ship in space: This is fine, I am going to do some acrobatic jumps in space, fall back on the ship and prevent the enemy from blowing us up using my lightsabers.
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@beestmann True. But Ezra closed the portal to that world and even Palpatine seemed not be able to open it. Now (a badly CGI) Anakin appears out of the blue to save Ahsoka (who was before killed by him and later saved by Bridger) and who lost the fight to Baylan way to easy, just to open that realm again.
I think it was a good think they closed that thing because it pretty much gives writers free reign to bring back whomever they want from the dead and I don't like that.
Sabine is so weak. She gave up so easily. And she should’ve listened to Ahsoka and destroyed the key. What’s more important the fate of the galaxy or one guy
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@nox32 Furthermore I would not expect the Sabine from "Rebels" act like this. Ezra told her that he could count on her. However I do not think he meant that she should find him but to honor his decision and protect Lothal and the Galaxy. He knew that finding him means finding Thrawn as well. Therefore, by giving in to Baylan she betrayed Ezra's trust.
Who's the fallen Jedi? Anakin? Baylan? or Ahsoka, who literally falls
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@annonimousse The fallen Jedi usually refers to the ones who fell for the Dark Side. For that reason it could only be one.
I don't appear to hate this as much as others, with Sakhno's Hati being a real standout for me. But yeah, a 20 minute chase in a 30 minute episode is not good. This should have found it's way onto the end of Episode 2. But we are in the age of quantity, over quality. I've got the feeling we won't see Thrawn til Episode 5 minimum.
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@theavereviewer If at all. There is the possibility that Thrawn and Ezra might not appear until the final episode and we then have to wait for season two to see how they deal with the Grand Admiral.
Since I don't think he'll survive ultimately for continuity reasons (althought Disney might not care about that) and I furthermore suspect they don't hired the actor just for a handful of episodes, I see this as a possible scenario.
The most anticipated show in the SWU is finally there. Of course, every new show is the most anticipated but Ahsoka still is something special. There will be lovers and haters of that I'm sure. Right now I take the middle ground.
I like the look and the fact that it is basically the continuation of Rebels which I absolutely love. Therefore I'm thrilled to see all the characters in live action finally. The beginning with the crawl text gave me a bit of goosebumps I have to admit. I think the story has potential and I place my faith once again in Filoni to make this right. After all Ahsoka is his baby.
Of course we get a lot of character introduction in the pilot and I'm already regretting not having watched Rebels again as I'm sure I missed some easter eggs along the way.
From a neutral standpoint I'd say this was a "7" all day long. It had it's moments and it's flaws especially towards the end it became very predictable. And once more someone will survive a lightsaber stab. But because of the aforementioned connection to Rebels (you can call it fan-service if you like) I decided to go with "8".loading replies
@quab775 Not sure I get what you mean. You can watch this show without having seen "Rebels" I'd say but it is a clear continuation of that story line. Most of the things that happened between these characters will be explained. But it's different feeling if you've seen instead instead of just being told. Of course if you watch "Rebels" after watching "Ahsoka" you do already know what will happen to the characters.
Don't know if that answers your question. If not, please feel free to reply again.
The action sequence was running a bit long but otherwise another solid episode.
I'm surprised there wasn't another way to relieve the steam pressure. Was that just a story tool to generate tension? You would think the builders would incorporate a way to make repairs in case they are needed. Otherwise they were either pretty sure the generator would run forever or they never anticipated it runs so long. Weird.
Did you notice the moment they switched to the back-up the screen showed a healthy, green environment outside ? No coincidence I say.
Bernard is hiding something, he is a much more important player in the tale. Unfortunately I was sure the moment the major opened up to the deputy her clock was running out.loading replies
@daddy7860 That it was.
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Pretty sure none of those who went outside are dead. That's part of the control mechanism to keep people inside. The people in power are obviously afraid to loose it. They destroyed all evidence of what happened in the past so they can create their own myth. Yeah, I know I'm stating the obvious. Maybe they are even living on the surface themselves and don't want to share ? Maybe the Silo is important for things on the surface to work, part of a machinery ?
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@daddy7860 For sure the suits are rigged. that much we know. But why do we only see those two bodies then ? Where are the others that went to clean. No one could've gone much farther then Holston or his wife did. And in the decades there must have been many that went outside.
I'm not saying you're wrong but at the same time I would not be surprised if someone was still alive.
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Just let me get two things out of the way I think were weak storytelling.
First, putting the drive on the hub was the stupidest thing to do as it could only lead to her getting caught. It also was illogical as it was clear that they would just override it and/or claim it as false. Granted she didn't know about the Janitor room but she knew there was surveilance everywhere and because of that might reach the conclusion that all those feeds had to be watched somewhere. But the story needs to go on so I'll take it.
Second, its hard to believe that they didn't inspect the stuff they brought to Juliette or they would have found the note. Even not knowing what it meant they would not have let it through. Plus, from a storyelling point of view it was giving too much away. Would have been better to not show it. Instead they could insert a scene when Juliette is about to break down to explain that she didn't die. And speaking of dying, Where are all the others that went out? Does someone actually go out to collect the bodies ?
Now, for the big reveal at the end I have to say I didn't see that coming. After making us believe (and I did) that it is safe outside, not only do we learn it is not, but there are literally dozens of silos out there. Does that mean the whole of mankind lives underground ? My guess is that each one thinks they are the only one and each one does have someone taking care that it stays like that. But we still don't have an idea about why ?
There is one thing I noticed that I want to point out. When Juliette told Holland about the door below he seem genuinely surprised. As if he didn't knew. That was the moment he ended the conversation. Just saying.
So, I don't know the books but from reading elsewhere I understand we barely scratched the surface of the story. I wonder how slow they will go with this one. The second season is already confirmed but thre is always the chance of not getting a third, or forth, or however many they need to play this out.
I sure hope we're not getting left hanging in the air atsome point.
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@misnomer OK, I see your point concerning the bodies. That could be an explanation. But I don't think I saw any bodies in the final overview shot. Need to go back to check that.
For sure something about the tape is different. Remember what Walker said ? That the tape has to be special or why make such a fuzz over the theft ? And I'm sure she switched it.
The door below leading to the other Silos is an intruiging thought It would give sense to Hollands reaction when Julitte told him about it. That's a good point.
Should be interesting to see how this goes on.
Thanks for the reply.
I think that's the first time I saw a loss in any of those car shows.
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@aeronmelon True, others might have taken the parts that are usable and swept away the rest.
I really thought they were going to reveal more details in this episode, but nothing. Besides the emotional dialogue between father and daughter, I expected more from this episode.
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@the_argentinian Oh, I'm certain they hoped to get renewed and planed to hold something back. And as I understand the books are a trilogy. So I don't expect a complete revelation of everything. Hopefully they get a third season, too.
Starts out interesting with Bond going on a personal vendetta but it hits a wall the moment he meets the woman pilot. It becomes increasingly boring after that with bland and boring characters througout and that includes the women. The character of Sanchez seems to be written with Davi in mind but he is unfortunately as dull as the rest. The finale is explosive (literally) but it can't save the movie as a whole. Pretty generic and you could easily replace Bond with a Joe Smith. Giving "Q" a bit more to do than usual and a very young Benicio del Toro are some saving grace but that's ultimately not why I watch the movie.
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@noodlebrain So, this is your favorite Bond movie ? I actually think this movie is boring. Well made but boring. Can't help it. And the title is wrong. Fun fact: Director John Glen said in an interview he wanted to name the movie "Licence Revoked" (more fitting I think) but the studio was against it. Reason ? They actually said to him no one in America would understand "revoked". Go figure. :laughing:
Unfortunately I don't like the song either. My favs are "Skyfall" and "For Your Eyes Only".
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I really thought they were going to reveal more details in this episode, but nothing. Besides the emotional dialogue between father and daughter, I expected more from this episode.
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@typongtv yes, but during the time this was produced they couldn't have known they get a second season.
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VIPEP7Really liked this because it feels very realistic for multiple reasons, but I have a problem with one single thing: Why the hell don’t they send another person to verify it? The machine didn’t break or anything. Other than that phenomenal. Will definitely read the book.
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@sinanonline I read the book a long time ago. It's much more detailed but it's also different in some places. But I liked it even better then the movie.
Pretty sure none of those who went outside are dead. That's part of the control mechanism to keep people inside. The people in power are obviously afraid to loose it. They destroyed all evidence of what happened in the past so they can create their own myth. Yeah, I know I'm stating the obvious. Maybe they are even living on the surface themselves and don't want to share ? Maybe the Silo is important for things on the surface to work, part of a machinery ?
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@xiofire Yes, I agree. I was thinking that myself. But in both cases we saw they went down within eyesight of the Silo. Which makes sense because if the suits are rigged you want people inside see them go down. But that raises the question why there aren't any more bodies laying around. Granted, we don't know how many went out to clean and they could remove the bodies. But something's just not adding up.
So it follows the traditional Bond theme.
Bond girls are the normal "hotness". Although this is the first time I remember actually catching brief nudity in a Bond movie (at the beginning when he takes the bikini top off of the first woman).
Cheesy effects but it is the 70s.
Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd are quite funny in an odd kind of way and it's hard to tell if they are really just odd or if there really is a homosexual aspect of them. Violent and murderous regardless.
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@cary99 >Although this is the first time I remember actually catching brief nudity in a Bond movie (at the beginning when he takes the bikini top off of the first woman).
If you do a picture by picture at the scene in Dr. No where they got decontaminated in the shower you can see that Ursula Andress was totally naked in that scene. Just before the guy gave her the bathrope there are one or two frames where you can spot that. Not that anyone would have notice back than but I was surprised it made it to Disk. I have the Special Edition DVD btw.
Ah, man, I really liked Marnes. I had hoped he would get out of this.
Ultimately this episode delivers more question then answers. Something that is rather obvious is that Judicial does not want anyone to find out about the past. For whatever reason this might be. But it's safe to assume that with the way they handeled the murder, everything else is a lie, too. But there have to be people who know the truth.
I'm not sold on Holland being a good guy. His change of heart came too sudden and convinient. Or maybe he is a good guy and knows more and wasn't sure he could trust Nichols ?
How doesn't anyone know what Stars are. How can that be dangerous information ?
One thing is sure, I'm still very much interested in how this plays out.
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@johnny_poncho Yes, there is that, too. In any case I can't figure him out really. But I don't think we have to wait too long to see his true colors.
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